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Advice from a Call Center Geek is a weekly podcast with a focus on all things call center and contact center. Tom Laird, CEO of 600+ seat award-winning BPO, Expivia Interaction Marketing and Ai auto QA startup OttoQa, ICMI Top 25 Contact Center thought leader discusses topics such as call center operations, hiring, culture, technology, and training while having fun doing it!

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Advice from a Call Center Geek is a weekly podcast with a focus on all things call center and contact center. Tom Laird, CEO of 600+ seat award-winning BPO, Expivia Interaction Marketing and Ai auto QA startup OttoQa, ICMI Top 25 Contact Center thought leader discusses topics such as call center operations, hiring, culture, technology, and training while having fun doing it!

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Dear Santa: Here is the AI Contact Center Tools We Actually Want!

12/17/2025
Send us a text This episode is my AI Christmas wish list for CCaaS. Not toys. Not buzzwords. The real AI tools contact centers should already have but don’t. Everyone is focused on making AI talk to customers. That’s missing the point. AI in CX isn’t supposed to just talk. It’s supposed to run the contact center. I break down the biggest opportunities CCaaS platforms are skipping, from AI flow builders you can prompt in plain English, to real-time workforce orchestration, predictive routing that replaces “next available agent,” dashboards built instantly by prompt, in-call coaching that actually helps agents in the moment, and real-time billing with zero surprises. This is a wish list, but it’s not fantasy. This is practical, achievable AI that would make life easier for the people running the floor every day. If you’re tired of AI demos that look good but don’t change operations, this episode is for you. All I want for Christmas is CCaaS AI that actually works. Through Expivia Digital, Tom works with contact center leaders on CCaaS platform selection, AI implementations, and NICE Studio and integration services. Same honest, vendor-neutral advice you hear on the Call Center Geek podcast, applied directly to your specific operational challenges. Schedule a consultation at ExpiviaDigital.com to discuss your contact center technology strategy. Click here: expiviadigital.com Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel OttoQA: try.ottoqa.com Expivia: Expiviausa.com

Duration:00:31:24

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Inside Expivia Digital and the State of Contact Center Technology

10/3/2025
Send us a text Join us for an inside look at Expivia Digital and the current state of contact center technology. We share our 30-year journey from running contact centers to consulting on CCaaS platform selection, AI quality assurance, and NICE CXone implementations. As members of NICE's Executive Advisory Board, we discuss the biggest trends shaping the industry in 2025: usage-based pricing, AI automation, agent experience, and how to cut through vendor promises to find technology that actually delivers ROI. Whether you're evaluating platforms, implementing AI, or trying to optimize your current stack - this is the real talk contact center leaders need to hear. Come check us out at Expiviadigital.com Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:13:00

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Keep Call Centers In America Act- The Truth

8/18/2025
Send us a text In this episode, we dig into the Keep Call Centers in America Act and uncover the truth behind the headlines. On the surface, it sounds like a patriotic move to keep jobs here in the U.S., but when you look closer, the story gets more complicated. We break down what the bill actually says, how it could affect American contact centers, and why the reality isn’t as simple as politicians make it sound. We also share our perspective on what really drives growth for U.S. call centers and why legislation alone won’t solve the bigger challenges. If you care about the future of American contact center jobs and want the straight truth without the spin, this episode is for you. Tom Laird’s 100% USA-based, AI-powered contact center. As the only outsourcing partner on the NICE CXone Customer Executive Council, Expivia is redefining what it means to be a CX tech partner. Learn more at expiviausa.com. Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:15:18

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Inside NiCE: Strategy, AI, and the Future of CX- Special Episode from NiCE Interactions

6/26/2025
Send us a text This episode sounds as good as it gets — huge thanks to Christopher Irwin-Dudek, VP of Marketing Communications at NICE, for joining me. We dive into a wide-ranging conversation covering: CCaaSAI powerhousemajor CRMsIf you're in the contact center, customer experience, or enterprise tech space, this is a must-listen. Don’t miss it. Tom Laird’s 100% USA-based, AI-powered contact center. As the only outsourcing partner on the NICE CXone Customer Executive Council, Expivia is redefining what it means to be a CX tech partner. Learn more at expiviausa.com. Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:14:57

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Listen to This Before You Build or Buy an AI Auto QA Platform

5/29/2025
Send us a text Everyone’s rushing to add Auto QA. But most are thinking too small. In this episode, I break down what most platforms get wrong, why scoring calls is just the beginning, and what to look for if you actually want impact, not just another dashboard. Before you build your own or sign a contract, listen to this. It’ll change how you see QA, coaching, and the real future of AI in your contact center. Tom Laird’s 100% USA-based, AI-powered contact center. As the only outsourcing partner on the NICE CXone Customer Executive Council, Expivia is redefining what it means to be a CX tech partner. Learn more at expiviausa.com. Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:26:26

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2025 Geek Gauge CCaaS Rankings!

4/17/2025
Send us a text In this episode of the Advice from a Call Center Geek podcast, we unveil our highly anticipated 2025 Geek Gauge CCaaS Rankings. We break down the comprehensive analysis of the top 19 Contact Center as a Service platforms, showing which vendors truly lead the pack in 2025. Using a groundbreaking approach that combines ChatGPT's analytical capabilities with Deep Research, we've evaluated each platform across 18 critical criteria. Whether you're considering a CCaaS migration, evaluating your current vendor, or just keeping tabs on the industry, this vendor-neutral assessment provides the clarity you need to make informed decisions. From AI capabilities to cost transparency, integration ecosystems to operational excellence try to cover it all. Don't miss this essential guide to the current CCaaS landscape, where technology meets practical real-world application through the eyes of AI. Tom Laird’s 100% USA-based, AI-powered contact center. As the only outsourcing partner on the NICE CXone Customer Executive Council, Expivia is redefining what it means to be a CX tech partner. Learn more at expiviausa.com. Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:18:24

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What to Demand from Your 2025 Outsourcing Partner- Setting Up Your RFP

4/3/2025
Send us a text In 2025, outsourcing isn’t just about price, it’s about AI, partnership, tech, and long-term CX strategy. In this episode, Tom Laird breaks down exactly what to look for in a modern contact center outsourcing partner and how to build an RFP that separates real CX tech players from the fluff. From AI expectations and data transparency to platform flexibility and agent experience, this is your blueprint for setting the bar higher and finding a partner who can actually meet it. Tom Laird’s 100% USA-based, AI-powered contact center. As the only outsourcing partner on the NICE CXone Customer Executive Council, Expivia is redefining what it means to be a CX tech partner. Learn more at expiviausa.com. Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:23:23

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The Survey Delusion: Why NPS and CSAT Are Failing Your Call Center

3/26/2025
Send us a text EPISODE DESCRIPTION: Are your post-call surveys actually providing meaningful insights, or just creating a dangerous illusion of customer understanding? In this eye-opening episode of Advice from a Call Center Geek, we tackle the uncomfortable truth about those NPS and CSAT metrics your executive team loves so much. The shocking reality? Only 1 in 20 customers actually completes these surveys, yet companies continue making major strategic decisions based on this minuscule, heavily biased sample. After examining the latest research and industry data, we're ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about customer feedback collection. This episode breaks down: Whether you're a contact center director, CX professional, or operations manager, this episode delivers the wake-up call your customer experience strategy desperately needs. Stop making decisions based on feedback from just 5% of your customers and discover how to capture the complete voice of your customer base. Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:25:14

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Beyond AHT and CSA: How to Measure Success in AI-Powered Contact Centers

2/24/2025
Send us a text Traditional contact center metrics like Average Handle Time and Customer Satisfaction scores have served the industry well for decades. But as AI transforms how we serve customers, through virtual agents, agent assistance tools, auto-quality assurance, and intelligent summarization, yesterday's KPIs are no longer enough. In this groundbreaking episode, we explore the new measurement framework required for AI-powered contact centers. We'll dissect traditional metrics, introduce essential new KPIs for measuring AI effectiveness, and provide a practical roadmap for evolving your measurement approach. Whether you're just beginning your AI journey or already operating a sophisticated digital-first contact center, this episode delivers actionable insights on: Join me as we redefine what success looks like in the age of AI-powered customer experience. Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:20:04

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Contact Center Coaching 2.0 -Turning QA Insights into Agent Coaching Gold

2/5/2025
Send us a text Most QA programs score agents but don’t actually develop them—and that’s the problem. In this episode, we break down how to move beyond compliance-based QA and use real call insights to coach smarter, faster, and better. You’ll learn: ✅ Why high QA scores don’t always mean high performance ✅ How to shift from traditional QA to coaching-driven QA ✅ The power of Auto QA tools like OttoQa.com for real-time coaching insights ✅ How micro-coaching leads to faster, more effective agent development Stop grading agents and start developing them. Tune in and discover how to turn QA insights into coaching gold! Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:24:46

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Beyond Words: Measuring AI Empathy Through Impact

1/23/2025
Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode of Advice from a Call Center Geek, we dive deep into one of the most contested questions in customer service technology: Can artificial intelligence truly demonstrate empathy, and how do we meaningfully measure it? While tech companies tout their AI's emotional intelligence capabilities, we'll cut through the marketing hype to examine what empathy really means in customer interactions. We'll explore practical examples from call centers where AI handles emotionally charged situations, comparing them with human responses to similar scenarios. Through real case studies and expert insights, we'll break down the components of empathy, from emotional recognition to appropriate response selection - and assess how AI systems measure up against these criteria. Rather than accepting the binary "AI can/cannot be empathetic" debate, we'll examine the nuanced reality of how AI systems process and respond to emotional cues. We'll discuss concrete metrics used in call centers to evaluate emotional intelligence, whether applied to human agents or AI systems, and question whether these measurements truly capture the essence of empathy. This episode challenges both AI skeptics and enthusiasts to reconsider their assumptions. For call center leaders and CX professionals, we'll provide actionable frameworks to evaluate AI solutions beyond the buzzwords, helping you make informed decisions about implementing emotionally intelligent automation in your customer service operations. Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:18:31

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Let's Get Real: The True Story of AI in CX & Your 2025 Game Plan

1/13/2025
Send us a text Tired of the AI hype cycle? In this straight-shooting episode, we're diving into what's actually happening with AI in customer experience operations right now. Not what vendors are promising, not what futurists are predicting, but the real deal from someone in the trenches. You'll discover what's genuinely working, what's still smoke and mirrors, and most importantly, how to build your roadmap for 2025. We're unpacking real implementation stories, revealing common pitfalls, and sharing the frameworks you need to evaluate what's right for your organization. Key takeaways: *The truth about current AI capabilities in CX (no sugar coating) *Which use cases are delivering real value today *Critical steps to prepare your team and infrastructure *A practical framework for your 2025 planning The mistakes you can't afford to make Whether you're just starting your AI journey or trying to optimize your current operations, this episode gives you the unfiltered insights and actionable steps you need to move forward with confidence. Time to cut through the noise and get real about AI in CX. Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:33:15

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2025 Predictions for CX and the Contact Center Industry

12/30/2024
Send us a text As we wrap up another year, it's time for our highly anticipated ACG 2025 Predictions Episode! In this special forecast, we'll dive deep into the future of technology and customer experience, sharing valuable insights from the entire Expivia team. What groundbreaking technologies will reshape the CX landscape? How will AI continue to evolve in the customer service space? What new challenges and opportunities await contact centers in 2025? Join us as we break down our expert predictions and analyze the trends that will define the industry over the next 12 months. Drawing from our hands-on experience and industry expertise, we'll explore everything from emerging digital solutions to shifting customer expectations. Whether you're a CX professional, technology enthusiast, or business leader, you won't want to miss these critical insights into what's coming in 2025! Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:26:33

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The Future of Contact Center Outsourcing: What to Expect in 2025

12/18/2024
Send us a text (I apologize for the poor audio on this episode, we had a mic failure, but the content is awesome so I hope you still find value!) In this episode of the ACG podcast we explore the future of contact center outsourcing in 2025. We dive into what a modern BPO RFP should include, moving beyond buzzwords like 'white glove service' and 'scalability' to focus on the advanced capabilities and innovations shaping next-gen outsourcing. If you're planning to outsource your contact center operations, this session will provide actionable insights to help you make informed decisions and unlock the full potential of your partnerships. Don’t miss this opportunity to stay ahead in the evolving world of customer experience. Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:21:33

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The Future of QA: Why AI is a Game-Changer for Contact Center Quality in 2025

12/4/2024
Send us a text The way contact centers approach Quality Assurance is undergoing a major transformation, and AI is at the heart of it. In this episode, we explore how advanced tools are enabling intent analysis, uncovering customer behavior patterns, and streamlining QA processes to deliver more meaningful insights. Learn how solutions like OttoQa are helping contact centers move beyond traditional scoring models, driving smarter evaluations, and creating better customer outcomes. If you're looking to future-proof your QA strategy, this conversation is a must-listen. Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:31:42

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Mastering Black Friday and Cyber Monday: Your Ultimate Contact Center Superbowl Playbook

11/20/2024
Send us a text Black Friday and Cyber Monday are almost here, bringing the year's biggest sales rush! For contact centers, this is the Super Bowl of customer service, and preparation is everything. In this episode of ACG, we dive into updated best practices to help your team stay ahead, deliver exceptional customer experiences, and handle the holiday sales frenzy like pros. Whether you're looking to optimize staffing, fine-tune your processes, or leverage AI tools to manage the madness, we've got you covered. Get ready to crush this year's holiday sales season! Discover exceptional, AI-driven contact center outsourcing with Expivia. Visit expiviausa.com or message me in Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow Tom: @tlaird_expivia Join our Facebook Call Center Community: www.facebook.com/callcentergeek Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tlairdexpivia/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@callcenter_geek Linkedin Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9041993/ Watch us: Advice from a Call Center Geek Youtube Channel

Duration:00:17:00

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BPO Financial Benchmarking with Eric Crouse- Partner Kommit & Company, BPO M&A Firm

2/23/2023
If you are a BPO owner/operator, this episode is for you. In this episode of ACG we talk about benchmarking the financial aspects of your BPO, setting up your books for maximum valuation, multiples in the market, maximizing your BPO for an exit, and so much more. Every day, contact center BPOs are focused on a large number of operational metrics or KPIs that describe how the center is performing. But that’s not the entire picture. Eric Crouse, Partner at Kommit & Company, an M&A firm that...

Duration:00:45:03

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Call Center Week Fan Appreciation Party! Caesars Forum Las Vegas Dec 13-16

11/5/2021
If you are going or think about going to Customer Contact Week (Aka Call Center Week) Dec 13-16 2021 at Caesars Forum, Las Vegas we want you to come to our Party! We are taking all the money that we would have spent for a booth at the show, to have a one-day party on our suite at Caesars. Networking, industry talks, booze, and fun... it's all here. Listen to the podcast, know me, interested in call center networking...you are invited. All you need to do is shoot me an email at...

Duration:00:04:18

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Live Supervisor Round Table Discussion- Helping the New Supervisor

1/6/2020
In this episode on the Geek, we recorded a live supervisor round table discussion with 5 of our call center supervisors. All have years of call center supervisors and coaching experience. This includes Peggy B, an OIC (Officer in Charge) here at Expivia with over 30 years of supervisory experience. This was an unscripted conversation on topics such as: What tips would you give a new supervisor? What are some daily operational tips you can give? Coaching Tips How to handle reps that are...

Duration:00:16:28