Cross-border Tax Talks

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Chris Desmond, leader of PwC’s US Global Trade Services practice and, as Doug notes, a ‘reformed transfer pricing partner.’ Doug and Chris discuss the current fragmented trade environment, why tariffs may remain a lasting feature rather than a short cycle, rising customs enforcement, the Supreme Court’s IEEPA decision and the operational complexity of securing refunds, and how companies should assess gross-versus-net refund exposure across suppliers and customers. They also cover why the tariff environment is forcing customs, tax, and transfer pricing teams to work more closely together, how first sale operates and why it remains under scrutiny, and practical steps tax leaders should take on coordination, data, and documentation.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Laura Valestin, an International Tax Services Partner in PwC’s Washington National Tax Services practice, where she focuses on financial transactions. In this episode, recorded at PwC’s International Tax Conference in Carlsbad, Laura unpacks the latest Section 987 developments following Notice 2026-17. Doug and Laura discuss what Section 987 is, why it matters for foreign currency gain or loss in branch and disregarded entity structures, the long regulatory history from the 1991 proposed regulations through the 2024 final rules, the new simplified equity-and-basis-pool method, remittance and loss-suspension mechanics, hedging rules, the proposed CFC election, reliance and applicability dates, and practical taxpayer action items, including comment opportunities and modeling decisions for 2025 and beyond.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Anja Manuel, co-founder and principal at Rice, Hadley, Gates, and Manuel LLC, a strategic consulting firm, and a former diplomat, author, and foreign policy advisor. Doug and Anja discuss the geopolitical forces reshaping cross-border business, including the Iran conflict and its implications for oil, shipping, Gulf investment, and AI infrastructure; China’s internal trajectory, tariffs, critical minerals, Taiwan, and supply-chain strategy; the growth outlook for Southeast Asia and India; Europe’s competitiveness challenges and the war in Ukraine; Venezuela’s political and investment risks; the effect of possible US midterm shifts on foreign policy; and whether international institutions, alliances, and the broader global economy still offer reasons for optimism despite a highly unstable backdrop.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Steve Kohart, a New York City-based international tax partner at PwC and former advisor to the OECD’s Center for Tax Policy and Administration. Doug and Steve discuss the January side-by-side agreement’s implications for US-parented multinationals, why Pillar Two remains relevant through QDMTTs, and how the CBCR transitional safe harbor bridges to the permanent simplified ETR safe harbor. They unpack what ‘simplified’ really means: financial accounting standards, denominator and numerator adjustments, deferred tax ‘bad DTLs,’ and the practical reality of a third set of books. The conversation also covers JV complications, Chapter 6 M&A/reorg rules, transition provisions (9.1.1–9.1.3) and excess negative taxes, new flexibility for return-to-provision adjustments, integrity rules, and what guidance and compliance planning teams should prioritize next.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Wade Sutton, a PwC principal who leads the International Tax Team in PwC’s Washington National Tax Services Practice and previously served as Deputy International Tax Counsel at the US Department of the Treasury. Doug and Wade discuss late-2025 Treasury and IRS guidance implementing cross-border provisions in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), focusing on transition and compliance mechanics that surface on 2025 returns. They walk through Notice 2025-72 (CFC year-end conformity and short-period foreign tax allocation), Notice 2025-75 (final-year coordination of the 'hot potato' rule with Section 951A(2)(B) as the regime shifts to pro rata attribution), Notice 2025-77 (a 10% foreign tax credit haircut for taxes tied to certain previously taxed distributions), and Notice 2025-78 (limits on deduction-eligible export income for certain property and IP sales). They close with downstream interactions (especially CAMT and loss/FTC limitations) and how Pillar Two 'side-by-side' dynamics may influence structuring.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Nils Cousin, an international tax partner in PwC’s Washington National Tax Services Practice, for his fourth appearance on the show. Doug and Nils discuss Nils’s April 2024 Jeopardy experience before pivoting to the 1916-era Section 892 exemption: how foreign governments, sovereign wealth funds, and public pension funds use it, and how ‘commercial activity’ and ‘controlled commercial entity’ rules can taint the benefit. They unpack the December 2025 regulation package, highlighting what was finalized (including an inadvertent-activity cure period, the qualified partnership exception, and FIRPTA taint relief) and what remains proposed, especially a framework that presumptively treats many debt acquisitions and workouts as commercial activity. The episode closes with the regulation process, effective-date mechanics, and a January 18 Treasury Secretary tweet, leaving us wondering whether market feedback might drive revisions.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Craig Stronberg, Senior Director on PwC’s Intelligence Team. Craig leads analysts focused on macroeconomic and geopolitical intelligence; he previously served in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Doug and Craig discuss why business and tax leaders should focus on the geopolitical landscape to understand its impact on cross-border business, including tax. Stability is the new bar for many businesses in 2026, requiring greater agility to deal with change. Craig discusses how many businesses are in a 'wait‑and‑see' mode versus decisive movers across industries. He also describes areas of focus, such as the US policy stance for the Americas, Greenland, and tariffs; the Global South’s rising coordination; and governance strains across the G20. While AI data falsification is a significant concern, Craig suggests practical actions for boards such as enabling direct access to the business’ risk team.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Pat Brown, an International Tax Partner in PwC’s Washington National Tax Services practice and Co-leader of the National Tax Office. Pat previously served as GE’s VP of Tax and Director of Tax Policy. Doug and Pat discuss highlights from 2025: the US day-one Pillar Two executive order and the OECD’s late-year side-by-side package; Section 899; the shifting of DSTs into the trade lane; and the expanding role of the UN for global tax policy. On US policy, they also unpack how OBBBA yielded greater stability; CAMT corrections; stock buyback excise tax guidance; and long-awaited Section 987 rules. Looking ahead to 2026, they assess the potential for additional US tax legislation under reconciliation, as well as the future of Pillar Two, its complexity, and how QDMTTs are now the backbone of Pillar Two.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Beth Bell, a Principal in PwC’s Washington National Tax Services Policy Office. She previously served as a Senior Advisor to the US Treasury Department, Tax Counsel for the US House Committee on Ways and Means, and Policy Director and Tax Counsel in the United States Senate. Doug and Beth discuss the OECD’s January 2026 side‑by‑side package: why consensus formed, how the side‑by‑side and UPE safe harbors operate, and why QDMTTs are taking center stage. They cover the simplified ETR safe harbor, the one‑year extension of the transitional CbCR safe harbor, elections and 2024–2025 compliance, enacted‑law accounting effects, the key footnote on UTPR allocation, and the new qualified tax incentives safe harbor, including both expenditure-based and production‑based credits, plus implications for inbound investment and the 2029 stocktake.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Hanan Abboud, a Dubai‑based International Tax and M&A partner who leads PwC’s Pillar Two efforts across the Middle East. Doug and Hanan discuss the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf (GCC) region’s corporate tax landscape, including country differences, Zakat as a covered tax, and the prevalence of withholding and treaty networks. They then map Middle East Pillar Two adoption: Bahrain’s QDMTT, Kuwait’s QDMTT, Oman’s IIR, Qatar’s DMTT plus IIR, the UAE’s QDMTT, and Saudi Arabia’s lack of announcements. They dive into filing timelines, estimated payments, the evolving incentive landscape, the intersection with free zones, as well as practical pain points: data, provisioning, governance, and allocating top‑up taxes.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Beth Bell, a principal in PwC’s Washington National Tax Services Policy group. Beth previously served as a senior advisor at the U.S. Treasury Department, tax counsel for the House Ways and Means Committee, and policy director and tax counsel in the U.S. Senate. Doug and Beth discuss contrasts between Senate personal offices and House committee roles; Ways and Means’ tax jurisdiction; and Beth’s experience moving from Congress to Treasury. Next, they jump into how DST disputes led to Pillar One and ultimately the emergence of Pillar Two; Build Back Better legislation; the Pillar Two model rules; U.S. credit design under Pillar Two; and the new administration’s response to Pillar Two.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by returning guest Tadd Fowler, Senior Vice President, Treasurer, and Global Taxes at the Procter & Gamble company. Doug and Tadd discuss US tax policy after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, the OB3 package’s priorities and fixes (including interest expense apportionment, GILTI and FDII changes, and maintaining competitiveness), and why certainty still depends on ongoing policymaker education. They examine the OECD Pillar Two ‘side‑by‑side’ concept, the daunting Pillar Two compliance overlay on US rules, and P&G’s own Pillar Two posture. They also cover operating‑model design, incentives and foreign direct investment, how AI augments rather than replaces decisions, and the tax team’s priorities—business partnership, compliance productivity, people and capabilities, and advancing tax certainty through transparency and cooperative programs.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Matt Ryan, PwC UK’s International Tax and Treasury Network Leader and the UK’s Pillar Two lead. Recording in Barcelona at PwC’s Global Tax Symposium, they take stock of Pillar Two implementation and the much‑watched ‘side‑by‑side’ agreement. Doug and Matt discuss policymakers’ evolving openness to net CFC tested income (NCTI) coexistence, the UK’s 2027 legislative path with potential effect from 2026, the UTPR safe harbor expiration, practical frictions around POPE reporting, M&A data gaps, and the lack of a global dispute mechanism. They also examine transitional versus permanent safe harbors, potential consequences if Section 899 re‑emerges—including expanded BEAT exposure—and quick UK updates on the 25% corporate rate and the digital services tax.

Wade Sutton (PwC’s WNTS International Tax Services Leader) guest hosts the podcast and is joined by Rob Ozmun, a State and Local Tax Partner, and Monic Kechik, PwC’s WNTS Federal Tax Services Leader. Together they discuss the OB3 ‘curveballs’ to the federal changes: Section 163(j) - ATI addbacks of depreciation and amortization; Section 174A - domestic expensing; Section 168(k) - the return to 100% bonus depreciation; and Section 168(n) - qualified production property (QPP). They explore how accelerated deductions can trigger BEAT and CAMT via ordering‑rule dynamics and book‑tax timing, creating cash‑vs‑ETR trade‑offs. They also examine state conformity models, rapid decoupling (e.g., D.C.), and wrinkles such as California’s departures and R&D credit capitalization.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Will Morris, PwC’s Global Tax Policy Leader, from PwC’s Global Transfer Pricing, Customs, and Indirect Tax Conference in Prague. Doug and Will discuss how trade policy now shapes tax outcomes, the G7 ‘side‑by‑side’ debate for Pillar Two, and why geopolitics complicates an Inclusive Framework deal. They explore the EU’s ‘simplification’ agenda (FTT/DEBRA/Unshell pullbacks), overlapping anti‑abuse regimes post-Pillar Two, and whether real simplification is politically feasible. The conversation turns to Digital Services Taxes amid Pillar One uncertainty, potential US responses (including Section 301 and talk of Section 899), and the rise of Significant Economic Presence rules. They close with the UN’s emerging convention, source‑based taxation of services, and the limits of AI and automation when dealing with unstructured taxpayer data.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Chris Desmond, a Principal in PwC’s Customs & Trade Practice. Chris leads PwC US’s Global Trade Services. Doug and Chris, while at PwC’s Global Transfer Pricing, Customs, and Indirect Tax Conference in Prague, discuss the Supreme Court’s expedited review of IEEPA‑based tariffs, possible outcomes, and the implications of an estimated ~$108B refund exposure across multiple industries (See our PwC Insight: IEEPA Tarrif: Understanding the Potential outcomes ahead of the Supreme Court’s Ruling for more details). They cover how persistent tariffs elevate customs to the C‑suite and require close integration with transfer pricing and Pillar Two modeling. They also discuss practical mitigations including first sale for export, duty drawback, Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) reclassification and origin analysis, transfer‑pricing alignment, and use of foreign‑trade zones -- paired with rigorous controls as US government scrutiny intensifies. The episode closes with sector‑specific developments and a data‑driven playbook.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Pieter Dere, a partner in PwC Belgium’s International Tax Services practice who leads Belgium’s Pillar Two initiative and co‑hosts the Tax Bites Podcast. Doug and Pieter recorded in Prague at PwC’s Global Transfer Pricing, Customs, and Indirect Tax Conference. They discuss Belgium’s Pillar Two compliance landscape: 2024 applicability of QDMTT/IIR/UTPR, a late‑November 2025 filing cycle; the new e‑platform and XML‑only submissions; transitional safe harbors and JV scope; the ‘general representative’ and joint and several liability; DAC 9 and the OECD MCAA; uncertainty around a G7 side‑by‑side and implications for US‑parented groups; estimated payments; Belgian litigation targeting UTPR; and practical steps to be ready now.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Sarah Hickey, a PwC Australia International Tax Partner and the Australian tax desk leader in New York City. Doug and Sarah discuss Australia’s corporate tax landscape (30% headline rate; new thin-cap at 30% of tax EBITDA with a retrospective integrity rule on related‑party debt), investment incentives, the two‑speed CFC regime and “use it or lose it” foreign tax credits, and dividend, interest, and royalty withholding. They cover the diverted profits tax (40% rate; 12‑month evidence window), Pillar Two timing, public CbCR and short‑form restructure disclosures due by end‑2025, and indirect taxes including non‑resident CGT and stamp duty. Finally, they unpack the High Court’s Pepsi decision—no royalty derivation by the US, a 4–3 win on royalties and DPT—and why contract wording anchors royalty analyses.

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Mitch Schuckman, who is retiring after 39 years at PwC and has held a range of leadership roles, most recently leading PwC’s Global Tax Pursuits. Mitch is also the author of “I’ll Tell You a Great Story” and is a certified professional coach. Doug and Mitch discuss the evolving nature of tax careers, from early technical work to client pursuits and leadership development. The conversation explores the importance of storytelling, the role of professional coaching, and the attributes of high-performing teams and individuals. Mitch shares insights on building trusted advisor relationships, the necessity of collecting diverse experiences, and the challenges and rewards of fostering strong team culture, especially in a post-pandemic, hybrid workplace. Mitch reflects on his career, the significance of mentorship, and his future plans in executive coaching and leadership development.

Wade Sutton (PwC’s Washington National Tax Services - International Tax Services Leader) is joined by Pat Brown, an ITS Partner and Co-Leader of PwC’s Washington National Tax Services practice. Pat previously served as the US Treasury’s Associate International Tax Counsel and has been a frequent guest on the podcast. Wade and Pat take a deeper dive into the future of Pillar Two, focusing on the G7’s ‘side-by-side' agreement. They highlight the historical positions of previous US administrations, why proposed Section 899 was dropped from OBBBA, US dissatisfaction with the lack of accommodations for the US GILTI regime and R&D tax credits, the OECD process and how countries could implement changes, and the potential for simplification including a potential permanent safe harbor. Finally, they look to the future and what may happen next.