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Columbus, Ohio

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Join hosts Audrey Strong and C. Lee Smith on the #1 sales management podcast as they dive into management, leadership, business, sales, company culture, talent retention, revenues, performance metrics, hiring and more. From debunking sales myths to learning how to manage with and without measurements, you'll learn something new with every episode and will be able to implement positive change throughout your workplace. Available on all major podcast outlets and all episodes available on ManageSmarter.com

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@salesfuel

Language:

English

Contact:

614-794-0500


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260 Embracing Autism in the Workplace With Tara May (Encore)

4/12/2026
Tara May, CEO of Aspiritech and International Neurodiversity Advocate, discusses the importance of embracing autism in the workplace. Aspiritech employs 90% autistic professionals, highlighting their unique strengths. Tara shares her insights on fostering innovation, cultural transformation, and the ROI of kindness. Learn how to create an inclusive environment that leverages the talents of autistic individuals. Takeaways include: 1 Neurodiversity in the Workplace: Tara May emphasizes the importance of integrating neurodivergent individuals, particularly those on the autism spectrum, into various levels of a company. This approach not only fosters innovation but also enhances productivity by leveraging unique skill sets. 2 ROI of Kindness: Tara May advocates for a company culture that prioritizes kindness and psychological safety. This philosophy not only improves employee well-being but also drives business success and innovation. 3 Career Progression for Autistic Employees: Aspiritech focuses on undoing the low self-esteem instilled in autistic individuals from a young age. By emphasizing strengths and potential, the company ensures meaningful career progression for its neurodivergent employees. 4 Unique Strengths of Autistic Employees: Autistic individuals often excel in tasks requiring high levels of focus and the ability to spot anomalies in large data sets. These strengths make them particularly well-suited for roles in tech services, including software testing and AI model building. 5 Universal Design and Employee-Centric Approach: Aspiritech employs universal design principles to create an inclusive work environment. This employee-centric approach ensures that all team members, regardless of neurodiversity, can thrive both in work and life. "Autistic people don't just belong in entry level positions or single departments. When we are able to pair a business need with something an autistic person has an incredible passion for, magic happens, productivity is insane." - Tara May #autism #autismspectrum #neurodivergent #sensory #inclusiveworkplace #employees #managers #podcast #managesmarter #salesfuel Connect with Tara May ⁠www.taranicoalmay.com⁠ ⁠www.aspiritech.org⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/taranmay/⁠ Connect with Manage Smarter Hosts · Website: ⁠ManageSmarter.com⁠ · LinkedIn: ⁠Audrey Strong⁠ · LinkedIn: ⁠C.Lee Smith⁠ Connect with SalesFuel · Website: ⁠http://salesfuel.com/⁠ · Twitter: ⁠@SalesFuel⁠ · Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:21:17

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301: Continuous Employee Listening with Nick Montalbine

3/29/2026
Discover how continuous employee listening can transform your organization’s culture and business results with insights from Nick Montalbine, founder of Inner Voice Analytics and former HR strategist at Nike. In this episode, Nick unpacks actionable strategies to turn employee feedback into performance intelligence, prevent turnover contagion, and create engagement that lasts. "The inner voice exists in all these organizations, and we just sometimes we don't acknowledge it, we don't listen to it because it may take our strategy in a different direction and maybe inconvenient at the time but the repercussions are large by not listening." - Nick Montalbine KEY TAKEAWAYS: -Why traditional employee surveys don't work anymore -Implementing continuous listening techniques -Other ways to get transparent employee sentiment -Early warning indicators you have no idea what your teams really think CONNECT WITH NICK MONTALBINE www.innervoiceanalytics.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmontalbine/ CONNECT WITH MANAGE SMARTER Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/· LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X: Audrey https://x.com/tallmediamaven Lee https://x.com/cleesmith Connect with SalesFuel Website: https://salesfuel.com/ X: https://x.com/SalesFuel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:25:38

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300: Businesspeople Are People Too - We'll Go First with C. Lee Smith and Audrey Strong

3/15/2026
Audrey Strong and C. Lee Smith celebrate 300 episodes by sharing their top management tips, podcasting secrets, and stories about real business leadership. They discuss show prep, follow-up questions, overcoming imposter syndrome, and building genuine connections. Whether you want podcasting advice, management strategies, or business growth tips, this episode delivers actionable insights and personal experiences from two industry veterans. "It's one of those things where we have these stories that we learn about each individual person. And we work that into the conversation and try to do it early in the conversation as far as what inspired them to do what they do or asking them something that's unique about them. And there's a certain power that's associated with getting to know somebody on a personal level." - C. Lee Smith KEY TAKEAWAYS - How to build a personal, authentic relationship with colleagues - Best strategies for management day-to-day relationships and improving them - Best piece of advice in business we ever got - How a completely random meeting 40 years ago started a long business relationship for us CONNECT WITH MANAGE SMARTER Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/⁠· LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/⁠ X Audrey ⁠https://x.com/tallmediamaven⁠ Lee ⁠https://x.com/cleesmith⁠ Connect with SalesFuel Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/⁠ X: ⁠https://x.com/SalesFuel⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ #Business relationships #Business Networking # Authentic leadership # human side of business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:29:31

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299: Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders wth Kate Lowry

3/1/2026
Kate Lowry, CEO, coach, and author of 'Unbreakable: How to Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders,' shares expert insights on identifying and managing toxic leaders, especially in startups and tech. She offers practical strategies for overcoming fear-driven management styles, boosting innovation, and improving team morale. Listen for actionable advice on workplace culture, employee retention, and navigating toxic workplaces. "The first way is to make sure you never tell them what you actually care about. People like this will try to take away or target the things that are important to you so that they can manipulate you and cause big reactions." KEY TAKEAWAYS: -Latest statistics on how many workplaces have fear-based leaders -Signs to look for that signal you're working under a fear-based leader -Solutions on what you can do to protect yourself and your team -New feedback ideas to help mitigate a fear-based environment CONNECT WITH KATE LOWRY www.katelowry.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinejlowry/ CONNECT WITH MANAGE SMARTER Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/· LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X Audrey https://x.com/tallmediamaven Lee https://x.com/cleesmith Connect with SalesFuel Website: https://salesfuel.com/ X: https://x.com/SalesFuel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ #workplace #badboss #toxicleadership #workplaceintimidation #HR #workplacefear #dysfunctionalboss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:23:59

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298: Dr. Rosenna Bakari: Seven Exits: Leave Behind What No Longer Serves You

2/15/2026
Dr. Rosenna Bakari, psychologist and author of "Seven Exits: Leave Behind What No Longer Serves You," explores leadership transformation, emotional clarity, and the power of micro exits to reset and lead with confidence. Discover how self-awareness and letting go of limiting patterns helps professionals build trust, enhance performance, and create more meaningful personal and workplace relationships. "You have to have a rabbit stick for change, right? You have to have some idea of who you want to be. And that's so hard to figure out if you haven't been allowed to be. And so you have to borrow somebody else's sense of being for a while. You can change it at any time." KEY TAKEAWAYS: -Definitions of lack of fulfillment and other signs that you're unhappy -How are you getting in your own way and what to do -What is a micro-exit and how to use it to reset your mindset -Which of the 'seven exits' do most people struggle with, and what impact does it have? CONNECT WITH DR. BAKARI http://transformation.sevenexits.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosenna-bakari-ph-d-b3120194/ Connect with Manage Smarter and its hosts Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X: Audrey https://x.com/tallmediamaven Lee https://x.com/cleesmith Connect with SalesFuel Website: https://salesfuel.com/ X: https://x.com/SalesFuel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ #physology #workplaceproblems #careers #careerproblems #workunhappiness #RosennaBakari #SevenExits #careerprogress Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:22:35

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297: Humor as a Leadership Superpower with Kevin Hubschmann

2/1/2026
Kevin Hubschman, founder of Laugh.Events, shares how improv and comedy skills like active listening, adaptability, and self-deprecating humor can strengthen leadership, sales, and workplace culture. Learn to build psychological safety, improve brand voice, and connect authentically for business success. Discover actionable strategies and tips to use humor effectively at work and in team building. "Humor skills and comedy skills, as I refer to them, are actually about soft skills. And that's listening, communication, empathy, thinking on the fly, going off script, reading a room." KEY TAKEAWAYS: -How using self-deprecation in the workplace can build a better culture -Effective use of humor with tough audiences requires patience, active listening, and tailoring your approach to the individual’s openness, rather than forcing jokes -Strategies for using humor effectively with an audience or people who do not readily respond CONNECT WITH KEVIN HUBSCHMANN https://laughrx.laugh.events https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-hubschmann CONNECT WITH MANAGE SMARTER Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ X: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X: Audrey https://x.com/tallmediamaven X: Lee https://x.com/cleesmith Connect with SalesFuel Website: https://salesfuel.com/ X: https://x.com/SalesFuel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ #kevinhubschmann #managesmarter #podcasts #businesspodcasts #workplaceculture #workplacehumor #officehumor #teamtrait #AdMall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:27:21

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296: Courageous Conflict Resolution with Dan Tocchini

1/18/2026
Dan Tocchini, leadership development expert and author of "The Change Imperative," reveals the secrets to navigating tough workplace conversations and resolving conflict with courage. Dan is also co-founder of TakeNewGround.com. Learn actionable strategies for leaders and managers looking to develop trust, improve communication, and foster high-performing teams. Dan shares practical conflict resolution and leadership tips that can elevate any organization's team culture. "To improve work relationships, ask: 'Here’s what I’m making up about what you said—tell me if I’m wrong.' It opens up honest, judgment-free feedback." - Dan Tocchini KEY TAKEAWAYS -How to openly invite feedback -Reflection Techniques and how to use them -What business metrics will be affected if you avoid conflict. -How to build difficult conversations and conflict resolution into your overall company culture Connect with Dan Tocchini https://takenewground.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantocchini Connect with Manage Smarter and its hosts Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/· LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X: Audrey ⁠https://x.com/tallmediamaven⁠ Lee ⁠https://x.com/cleesmith⁠ Connect with SalesFuel· Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/⁠· X: ⁠https://x.com/SalesFuel⁠· Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ #salesfuel #dantocchini #leadershipskills #difficultemployees #teamsuccess #leadershipadvice #managesmarterpodcast #cleesmith #audreystrong #salescred #sales #teamtrait #admall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:21:23

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Extra Point: Team Commitment

1/7/2026
This week, we're tackling a topic that every leader has faced at some point: team commitment. Gain valuable insights on leadership and team dynamics with host Chip Gray. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:04:05

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295: Relationship Sales Strategies with Theresa Bassett

1/4/2026
Theresa Bassett is CEO of The Diamond Group and an expert in relationship sales. With a background in construction, real estate, and digital marketing, she’s driven over $550M in transactions across various sectors. Theresa’s expertise spans working with Fortune 500 companies like Pulte Homes and GE Aviation, and she’s passionate about helping businesses grow through a proprietary system for sales and marketing. As a thought leader, entrepreneur, and speaker, she also focuses on team development and fostering growth-driven cultures, embodying her Progress = Happiness philosophy. "With the onset of AI and all of the generational things that you've talked about, I think credibility more and more is being challenged... People don't know what to trust. So even more to the point that the personal communication, the interpersonal FaceTime conversations... are even more important because people are looking for transparency, authenticity." - Theresa Bassett KEY TAKEAWAYS -The core principle behind effective relationship selling strategies -How organizations should structure their sales and marketing processes for maximum efficiency and lead conversion -What inbound marketing tip can dramatically improve trust and engagement with potential clients -Maintaining face-to-face interaction is still important in the digital age, especially with the rise of AI CONNECT WITH THERESA BASSETT https://www.diamond-group.co/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresalbassett CONNECT WITH MANAGE SMARTER AND ITS HOSTS Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X: https://x.com/tallmediamaven https://x.com/cleesmith Connect with SalesFuel Website: https://salesfuel.com/ X: https://x.com/SalesFuel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ #sales #relationshipselling #theresabassett #salestips #salesfuel #salescred #cleesmith #audreystrong #salesAI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:24:15

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Extra Point: Stand Out Traits

12/31/2025
I'm Chip Gray and this week, we're talking about the traits that truly make a candidate stand out in the hiring process. Gain valuable insights on leadership and team dynamics with host Chip Gray. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:05:13

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Extra Point: Building Trust as a Leader

12/24/2025
This week, we're talking about a topic that's crucial for any leader aiming to empower their team: trust. Gain valuable insights on leadership and team dynamics with host Chip Gray. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:05:08

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294: MOST POPULAR 2025: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome with Summer Craig

12/21/2025
Summer Craig is the President and CEO of the Craig Group , a business growth advisory firm. With over 20 years of experience in digital marketing, she is a seasoned expert in driving revenue growth for multimillion-dollar companies. Summer specializes in leveraging technology, integrating sales and marketing, and aligning organizations for sustainable business growth. Her expertise extends to working with private equity-backed businesses to lead large in-house teams. Beyond her professional achievements, Summer is also an avid mountain climber, having conquered peaks like Mount Kilimanjaro and Mount Rainier, which she uses as metaphors for overcoming challenges in business and life. "You don't have to have done it. You don't have to know, but you have to be smart enough to figure it out and maybe go find help or admit that you need help and go solve the problem." - #SummerCraig KEY TAKEAWAYS: -How can professionals overcome imposter syndrome? Summer suggests focusing on what you are good at and leveraging your unique skills to overcome challenges. She believes that identifying and utilizing your strengths can help mitigate feelings of inadequacy and build confidence. -What role does vulnerability play in leadership? Summer argues that admitting when you haven't done something before can actually enhance your credibility as a leader. She believes that showing vulnerability and a willingness to learn can foster trust and collaboration within a team. -How can climbing mountains teach business professionals about overcoming challenges? Summer shares that climbing mountains like Mount Rainier taught her the importance of teamwork and humility. She believes that tackling difficult tasks outside of your comfort zone can provide valuable life lessons and build resilience. -What is a key strategy for managing imposter syndrome in teams? Summer recommends hiring individuals who have the ability to figure things out and encouraging open communication. She stresses the importance of creating an environment where team members feel comfortable admitting when they need help and are supported in finding solutions. #leadership #impostersyndrome #workplace #csuite #teamwork #salesfuel #admall #teamtrait Connect with Summer Craig ⁠https://www.craiggroup.io/⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigsummer/⁠ Connect with Manage Smarter and its hosts!!!! · Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/⁠ · LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/⁠ · LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/⁠ X Audrey ⁠https://x.com/tallmediamaven⁠ Lee ⁠https://x.com/cleesmith⁠ Connect with SalesFuel · Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/⁠ · X: ⁠https://x.com/SalesFuel⁠ · Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:21:20

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Extra Point: Self-Control

12/17/2025
I'm Chip Gray and this week, we're talking about a skill that's often overlooked but absolutely crucial for sales managers: self-control. Gain valuable insights on leadership and team dynamics with host Chip Gray. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:04:44

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Extra Point: Team Motivation

12/10/2025
This week, we're tackling a topic that every leader has faced at some point: team motivation. Gain valuable insights on leadership and team dynamics with host Chip Gray. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:03:52

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293: The Buy-In Advantage with Dave Garrison

12/7/2025
Dave Garrison, CEO, business strategist, and author of 'The Buy-In Advantage,' dives into how buy-in and employee engagement drive workplace performance. He shares leadership strategies for building trust, increasing motivation, and reducing turnover with proven techniques—plus insights on inspiring purpose in today’s multi-generational workforce. Discover actionable tips and tools to boost productivity and enhance workplace culture. "People buy in on emotion, justify with logic. So how do you tap into that emotional need? That requires great questions and listening." KEY TAKEAWAYS -The definition of employee buy-in and employee engagement and why it's important -How to tell if your employees are faking engagement and interest in their job and the organization -Actionable steps you can take to stop all the damage a lack of employee engagement can do to your organization CONNECT WITH DAVE GARRISON https://garrisongrowth.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-garrison-growth/ Connect with Manage Smarter and its hosts Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ ⁠X: Audrey ⁠https://x.com/tallmediamaven⁠ Lee ⁠https://x.com/cleesmith⁠ Connect with SalesFuel Website: ⁠https://salesfuel.com/ ⁠X: ⁠https://x.com/SalesFuel⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:22:02

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Extra Point: Holiday B2B Selling

12/3/2025
This week, we're talking about a question every B-to-B seller secretly asks: can you actually increase sales during the holidays? Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:04:28

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Extra Point: Voice of the Sales Rep

11/26/2025
This week, we're exploring the unfiltered insights straight from the frontlines of sales — courtesy of over 800 sales professionals who participated in The Voice of the Sales Rep: 2025 Focus Report. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:04:04

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292: Maximize Employee Potential—Work Smarter, Not Harder with Matt Granados

11/23/2025
Matt Granados, founder of LifePulse Incorporated and author of "Motivate the Unmotivated," reveals how to replace hustle culture with sustainable workplace success. He shares actionable strategies for employee engagement, optimal performance, workplace culture, and leveraging AI for productivity—without risking burnout. Gain leadership tips for integrating work-life harmony and building high-performing teams that thrive in today’s changing business environment. "There’s a difference between high performers and optimal performers, right? So a high performer is where everyone used to try to get to, especially in sales. High output, unsustainable pace compared to others. That’s like saying I beat a bunch of slow people in a race, so therefore I’m fast. Optimal performance flips the script a little bit—same exact high output, but at a sustainable pace compared to one’s own ability. That’s the key." WEBSITE FOR MANAGE SMARTER LISTENERS: lifepulseinc.com/ms -What is optimal performance and how do I get it? -What's the 80/100 performance rule? -How to set both action-based and time-based goals to get greater productivity -How to use AI as a force multiplier and to help work/life balance CONNECT WITH MATT GRANADOS www.lifepulseinc.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt87granados/ Connect with Manage Smarter and its hosts Website: https://salesfuel.com/manage-smarter/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreystrong/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleesmith/ X: Audrey https://x.com/tallmediamaven Lee https://x.com/cleesmith Connect with SalesFuel Website: https://salesfuel.com/ X: https://x.com/SalesFuel· Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:25:51

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Extra Point: The Unspoken Sales Advantage

11/19/2025
This week, let's get real about what separates a successful salesperson from just a decent one. It's not just what you say—it's how you say it, and, more importantly, what your body says for you. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:04:35

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Extra Point: Trust, Communication & Teamwork

11/12/2025
This week, we're spotlighting something every business leader faces, but few master: how communication and trust boost your team’s efficiency. Join us each week for a brand new bonus Extra Point episode. In less than 5 minutes, you'll get additional insights about the psychology of leadership and management from the producers of the Manage Smarter podcast. Find all of the Manage Smarter episodes on ManageSmarter.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:04:27