Managing Marketing

Ben Oliver is the Head of Media at Splash (The in-house agency at Treasury Wine Estates) and someone with first-hand of the challenges and benefits of taking media in-house. While we have talked about in-house agencies before, this is the first time we have discussed in-house media and it is interesting that the in-house creative or content side of the in-house model appears to get more attention than the media. Yet more money is invested by companies into media channels than the content that run in it. Ben shares his experiences across his career from journalism and public relations to where his today and discusses the specific challenges and the benefits of establishing in-house media team. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Hick Hunter is the CEO, ECD and co-founder of Paper Moose, a purpose-driven independent agency where strategy, creative ideas and specialist expertise drives positive change for brands, communities and the environment. They are also a certified B-Corp. The advertising industry is incredibly competitive, with agencies competing for a share of business, a share of advertiser budgets, and a share of the talent in the marketplace. In the past few years, we have noticed a rise in not just the number of independent agencies, but also their ability to compete with the larger network agencies. One of the ways they are doing this is by having a strong and clearly articulated purpose or set of values. It is not only differentiating them from the competition with advertisers, it is also a clear strategy for attracting talent. Nick shares this approach they have implemented over the past 13 years in building their agency, Paper Moose. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Julian Cole is the Strategy Principal at the Strategy Finishing School, where more than 4,000 strategies from agencies, clients and elsewhere have come to round out their strategic capabilities, particularly when it comes to briefing. Julian has a particular interest in improving briefing, particularly the creative brief. For over a decade, procurement has been looking for ways to reduce marketing and advertising costs. One of the main focuses has been reducing agency fees. But of course, there was a more effective solution, but perhaps not an easier solution to improving advertising and marketing outputs and effectiveness while at the same time reducing waste. That is by improving briefing. The way clients brief their agencies. And how agencies develop creative briefs for themselves. Julian shares his insights on how to improve the creative brief and the distinct differences between a client brief to the agency sand the agency creative brief. To get 25% off Julian’s “Strategy Finishing School courses” use the CODE trinityp3 from the podcast here https://strategyfinishingschool.com/ Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Kirsty Muddle is the CEO of dentsu Creative Australia and New Zealand and Cate Stuart- Robertson (AKA CSR) is the Chief Client Officer at dentsu Creative. Both have extensive experience in media and advertising with a particular creative focus, and recognised leaders in the industry. A lot of time and effort is expended by advertising agencies extolling their creativity. It is, after all, one of the creative industries. Increasingly the conversation is now turning to the role and value creativity plays in delivering growth through initiatives like the Advertising Council of Australia’s Growth Agenda with the Australian, but also efforts to measure this value being launched by a few holding companies. Both Kirsty and CSR share their perspectives on the changeling application of creativity in marketing, beyond advertising and the challenges and efforts to build creative capability and momentum within organisations. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Kat Kennan is a certified trauma-informed professional and Founder and CEO of Radical Customer Experience™️ - a groundbreaking consulting firm that encourages brands to establish genuine connections with their customers by embracing strengths-based, trauma-informed, and inclusive marketing services. Nearly 73% of adults in the United States have experienced some type of traumatic event at least once in their lives. Despite its advancements, modern marketing still relies on techniques meant to make their customers feel inadequate, resulting in customer alienation, negative brand perception, and increased customer complaints. But it doesn’t have to be this way! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

David Sutherland is the Managing Director at the Micro Agency, part of the M&C Saatchi Group. He has built his career as an in-house agency model consultant, helping advertisers select the suitable model for them and implementing it into their roster. When the industry talks about in-house agencies, the conversation quickly turns to either in-housing or outsourcing, as if these are the only options. But in fact, there is a wide array of agency sourcing options, with most advertisers choosing one of the many hybrid models. David shared some common agency models beyond in-house and outsourced and the benefits and watch-outs for each. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Dani Bassil started her career in Sydney before migrating to the UK early this century to work in number of highly respected agencies including Mother, Weiden & Kennedy, VCCP and the CEO of Digital UK. She recently returned to Australia to take up to role of Chief Executive Officer at Clemenger BBDO Australia. Dani shares her experience not only working in, but being an industry leaders in both the UK and Australia. Exploring how market size and geography play a role in the approach to advertising, decision making, creativity and more. She also reflects on the way issues around diversity equality and inclusion and gender equality are playing out in the northern and southern hemisphere when it comes to the advertising industry. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Nichole Williamson Davidson is a branding and digital marketing expert, currently the Chief Brand Officer at Zilker Media, an end-to-end marketing solution for thought leaders and the companies they lead. Nicholes believes that business executives should focus on their personal brand and not just their institutional brand. This philosophy and approach have seen her create successful digital strategies for thought leaders, best-selling authors, and community brands seeking to grow their online presence. She shares with us what leaders should be doing and, more importantly, what they should not be doing when building their personal brand. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Liam Loan-Lack is Head of Marketing APAC & Canada at CMC Markets. He is also a Non-Executive Director, B2B/B2C Growth Consultant, Marketing Effectiveness Specialist and Marketing Academy Alumnus. A lawyer by training, Liam has multidimensional experience working in agencies and as a marketer, which has given him a relatively unique perspective on the many challenges facing marketers today. He shares his perspective on a range of marketing and business challenges, from the approach to marketing structures to what is required to achieve double-digit growth. It is a wide-ranging conversation that demonstrates the possibilities when you embrace the complexity of the situation and make decisions informed by data but based on instinct. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Murray Howe founded Marktects, which helps align marketing with the business bottom line. From a business perspective, there is often a negative conversation about marketing, from referring to it as the colouring-in department or the black hole of the budget. Survey after survey talks of the dissatisfaction CEOs have with their CMOs, and the industry points to the short tenure of the CMO as a symptom and a cause. But marketing, well executed and well positioned within any organisation, can drive customer-led growth. So why is this misalignment between business and marketing, and what can be done about it? Murray discusses the gap between marketing and business and shares how this can be closed by repositioning ‘brand and comms’ to an engine of customer-led growth. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Jack Bensimon is the Founding Partner and Board Chair of Tadiem and the co-founder of the award-winning agency Bensimon Byrne, and he talks about the issue of clients’ conflicts of interest. There appears to be a massive discrepancy in the way companies work with their consulting partners and how they work with their advertising agencies. On the one hand, consultants are often chosen and valued for their category experience, and working with two or more companies in the same category makes them an expert. But for advertising agencies, while advertisers value category experience, they will not tolerate an agency having another client in the same category. Jack shares his views on clearly defining a conflict of interest so that all parties can operate to their full potential. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Patrick Rowe is the CEO of Saatchi & Saatchi Australia, a powerhouse agency brand considered one of the most successful in the world. Founded in 1970 in London, it became known as the place where nothing is impossible. It also became the largest advertising agency in the world, with offices worldwide. The advertising industry is often accused of being obsessed with the new and bedazzled by change. But what about longevity? What about the challenges of sustaining long-term business success? Pat talks about maintaining relevance, focus and success while constantly adapting to the changing needs of clients and their markets. Deciding what changes and stays the same is essential to maintaining long-term success. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Pete Randeria is the Director of Global Innovation at Treasury Wine Estates. With a long history in agencies and roles in TWE that have straddled advertising, marketing and product innovation, Pete had great observations and wisdom to share about the balance between product innovation, packaging, brand experience and communications that has to be upheld in this challenging and complex category, many of which are transferable to other industries. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Skye Lambley is the Chief Executive Officer of the public relations group Herd MSL, and sustainability consultancy SalterBaxter. While some in advertising may think of public relations as what you do support their advertising campaign, the truth is more organisations are looking to public relations as an effective way to not just communicate with but influence a wide range of essential audiences – from consumers and customers to shareholder and regulators, employees and more. Mainly today, most organisations find themselves needing to communicate an increasingly complex range of issues, including diversity, equity and inclusion, gender equality, environmental sustainability, and the list goes on. This is where public relations come into its own. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Laura Aldington, Jon Austin and Simone Gupta are also known as Supermassive, the new agency launched recently and with a bang in Australia. In a wide-ranging discussion, the team shares their story, inspirations, views on challenges and enablers in the market, and what drives them forward in helping redefine the advertising and agency landscape for the better. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Jason Tonelli is the CEO of Zenith Media in Australia and New Zealand. He believes there is an opportunity for media agencies to be smarter in strategy and planning and media trading. There was a time when media was all about the buying. For some advertisers (and their procurement teams), it still is. But with the rise of technology and the impact this is having on media, increasingly, the discussion is about brains over brawn. Jason shares his view and experience on how data and research can be best applied to enhance real-time media decision-making in both strategy and planning and trading. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Nick Hand is a commercially savvy, hands-on Finance Director, a CPA with more than two decades of experience managing the finances of media, creative, PR agencies and more. He returns to Managing Marketing to discuss the impact artificial intelligence technology has on advertising agencies of all types and the effect it will have on agency fees. While much of the industry discussion about AI has been focused on the opportunities and the impact on employment, it is equally important to ensure that the financial sustainability and viability of agencies are maintained, as this technology impacts almost all areas of advertising operations. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Mike Rebelo is the CEO of Publicis Groupe Australia and New Zealand. For almost a decade he has been working on and working with an integrated agency model and he shares the lessons learned along the way. With digital media and technology we saw the rise of the specialist agencies, then a trend back to the generalists, better known as the one-stop-shop. But more recently we are witnessing the rise of the integrated agency offering. This offering comes in many shapes and sizes. But no matter what the model there were always challenges and issues with making it live up to the promised delivery. From issues with attracting and keeping talent to behind the scenes in-fighting breaking out. Mike talks about the issues and opportunities of the various integrated agency models. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Peter Levitan is the agency whisperer with experience managing the world’s largest advertising agency, building his own agency, founding two Internet companies, and consulting with over 100 ad agency clients. He can help you build a happy, healthy, unignorable, successful lead generation agency. ​​In a world where some may argue there is already a glut of advertising agencies, Peter argues there is still room for a kick-ass agency to thrive. His first book was The Levitan Pitch. Buy this book. Win more pitches. He has followed this up with his latest tome, which champions this idea. Titled How to Build a Kick-ass Advertising Agency the book provides everything you need to build all sizes of agencies, from one person to multinationals. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Arthur Fleischmann, Group CEO and Country Manager for WPP, with the experience of not just launching and growing his own successful agency, but also managing one of the major holding company groups here in Canada. In the past two decades, we hear reports CMO tenure is getting shorter, some reporting it at less than 2 years on average and that agency tenure is headed the same way. But it is not just the duration of these relationships that are taking a toll. It is also the way they are defined. Reports of the demise of the CMO are as common as the demise of the AoR with more advertisers moving to project-based commercial arrangements. But what has been driving these trends, and what is the impact and cost to the agencies and their clients. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjE2MTQ0MjA2NC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.