Mastering Agility
Business & Economics Podcasts
Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver? How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome? We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible. This podcast will change your career and organization. You’ll be entertained while learning about the industry’s leaders and other practitioners, and you’ll feel familiar with the situations discussed as we invite guests over and discuss tools, concepts, models, metrics, leadership, frameworks, and many more elements that help you deliver amazing products. Both of us understand the many struggles, challenges, antipatterns, and dysfunctions many of us face in our daily working lives. We are here to provide actionable advice and strategies for you to create continuous improvement. You will find things that actually work for many organizations, as we and our guests have tried and tested them. You will find a goldmine of actionable information from many fields, including the space industry, Formula 1, psychology, and Silicon Valley’s top entrepreneurs. We break down these complex topics into easily digestible insights that you can start applying in your careers right away. The best part is that you can even join our live recordings to ask your most burning questions and get them answered based on your needs! We dive deep into the world of business agility, product discovery, delivery, validation, product management, and product frameworks like Scrum, Kanban, LeSS, and many more. We’ll explore the benefits of decentralized decision-making, autonomous empowered teams, leadership, and much more. We empower you with the information you need to become the leaders your organization deserve. Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
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Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver? How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome? We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible. This podcast will change your career and organization. You’ll be entertained while learning about the industry’s leaders and other practitioners, and you’ll feel familiar with the situations discussed as we invite guests over and discuss tools, concepts, models, metrics, leadership, frameworks, and many more elements that help you deliver amazing products. Both of us understand the many struggles, challenges, antipatterns, and dysfunctions many of us face in our daily working lives. We are here to provide actionable advice and strategies for you to create continuous improvement. You will find things that actually work for many organizations, as we and our guests have tried and tested them. You will find a goldmine of actionable information from many fields, including the space industry, Formula 1, psychology, and Silicon Valley’s top entrepreneurs. We break down these complex topics into easily digestible insights that you can start applying in your careers right away. The best part is that you can even join our live recordings to ask your most burning questions and get them answered based on your needs! We dive deep into the world of business agility, product discovery, delivery, validation, product management, and product frameworks like Scrum, Kanban, LeSS, and many more. We’ll explore the benefits of decentralized decision-making, autonomous empowered teams, leadership, and much more. We empower you with the information you need to become the leaders your organization deserve. Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
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Episodes
#137 Strategic Storytelling: Shaping Agile Culture Through Narrative with Osita Ifezue
7/24/2025
"Origin stories create die-hard fans. Once your story and your product are inseparable, you win."
In this powerful episode of Mastering Agility, Jim and Sander sit down with storytelling strategist Osita Ifezue to explore how strategic storytelling can reshape the way agile teams operate, connect with customers, and innovate beyond the status quo. Recorded at ScanAgile 2025, Osita shares how organizations like LEGO, Apple, Nike, and IKEA use storytelling to drive customer loyalty, enhance internal alignment, and navigate change.
Connect with Osita: (31) Osita Ifezue | LinkedIn
Check out Think About It! With Osita Ifezue Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2idqtZvGCMswcqIPvQMDCa?si=oQhfzXDkRFCYRDtW16PkUg
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Duration:00:39:09
#136 Hope Is Not a Strategy: Leading Culture Change That Works with Anna Lavrova
7/1/2025
n this reflective and insightful episode, Jim is joined by organizational coach Anna Lavrova to unpack her talk at the Scrum Master Summit and dive into the real mechanics of organizational culture. They discuss why people often feel "off" in their roles—not because of the work, but because of the culture—and how leaders can make sense of multicultural, multi-context teams in today’s workplace.
Connect with Anna: LinkedIn
The Culture Map: Book – Erin Meyer
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Duration:00:44:13
#135 Mastering the Mind: Mental Fitness, Meaning, and the Inner Game with René de Leijer
6/16/2025
“Mental fitness is like going to the gym—but for your mind.”
In this insightful episode, Jim welcomes René de Leijer—Agile Coach, Scrum Master, and co-creator of The Inner Game—to explore what it truly means to help people, teams, and organizations grow. René shares his philosophy on being “strategically lazy,” the importance of psychological safety, and how embracing your inner saboteurs can lead to personal and team transformation.
More on The Inner Game
The website: https://www.playtheinnergame.com/
LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/98064137/admin/dashboard/
Connect with René on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/renedeleijer/
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Duration:00:46:04
#134 From Gut to Great: Smarter Group Decisions in Agile with Tobi Mende
6/13/2025
In this thought-provoking episode, Jim sits down with Tobias -Tobi- Mende, engineering leadership consultant and speaker at the upcoming Online Scrum Master Summit from June 17-19 to explore the real challenges of decision-making in agile teams. Drawing from 15+ years of experience, Tobi shares how poor visibility, lack of strategy, and fear of failure hold teams back—and how we can fix it.
If you're a Scrum Master, team lead, or product manager frustrated by indecision, vague priorities, or never-ending meetings—this episode is for you. Tobi delivers tactical ways to empower teams, improve clarity, and reintroduce confidence into team decisions—without falling into top-down traps or analysis paralysis.
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Duration:00:40:33
#133 Kumbaya Won't Save You - Facing Resistance, Building Growth, and Leading Without the Fluff with Martijn Versteeg
6/2/2025
"The people stuff is hard. It always is"
Get ready for a powerful conversation on Mastering Agility where hosts Jim and Sander sit down with Martijn Versteeg — tech entrepreneur, leadership facilitator, and former rowing coach.
We dive deep into the real challenges of leadership, change resistance, and personal growth.
From building peer groups for tech leaders across Europe to handling brilliant jerks in teams, Martijn shares practical tools, models, and stories you can immediately apply.
🌟 Why is "the people stuff" always the hardest part?
🌟 How do you truly build psychological safety (without making it kumbaya)?
🌟 And what can a vanilla orchid teach us about growth?
Connect with Martijn: (27) Martijn Versteeg | LinkedIn
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Yerkes-Dodson: Lore, not Law — The Learning Scientists
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Duration:01:13:34
#131 Drawn to Agility: Creating Clarity with Every Line with Olina Glindevi and Ben Walder
5/14/2025
"If you're going to write about Agile, you better work Agile."
In this special live episode, hosts Jim and Sander chat with Olina Glindevi and Ben Walder, the creative duo behind The Visual Agile Coach Playbook, at the ScanAgile 25 conference in Helsinki. They share the origin story of their book, their collaboration journey, and the power of visual thinking in agile coaching and team collaboration.
The motivation and madness behind writing The Visual Agile Coach Playbook while juggling day jobs and family life.
Using visuals as a serious and practical tool in agile work — not just as decoration or “fun stuff.”
The creative friction between Ben’s structured writing approach and Olina’s visual process — and how they found agility in their collaboration.
Why they believe trust, feedback, and staying in your lane can lead to stronger results when working in teams.
The role of visual agile coaches and how visuals can unlock alignment, clarity, and engagement in teams.
A sneak peek into their next project — a collaborative book on the future of work.
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Connect with Olina & Ben (51) Olina Glindevi ✏️ | LinkedIn & (51) Ben Walder | LinkedIn
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Duration:00:52:54
#130 Slides, Science, and Shaping the Future: Building Brave Cultures from Playgrounds to Boardrooms
4/29/2025
"Let people twist, turn, and break your product a little — that's where the magic happens."
In this special ScanAgile 25 edition, hosts Jim and Sander sit down with Linda Liukas — renowned author, educator, and playground designer — for a rich conversation about creativity, risk, resilience, and the future of learning and public spaces.
Linda shares her journey from writing Hello Ruby to designing cutting-edge computer science-themed playgrounds that challenge how we think about education, risk-taking, and play. Together, they explore the parallels between playgrounds and workplaces, how organizations can foster real innovation (hint: it's not about micromanaging), and why letting people "own" a product or process leads to bigger impacts.
Whether you're a leader, educator, or innovator, this episode will spark ideas about autonomy, growth, and designing environments — both physical and cultural — where people can thrive.
Connect with Linda: (27) Linda Liukas | LinkedIn
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Duration:00:56:53
#129 Building Resilience and Embracing Change: The Path to Agile Success with Tricia Broderick
4/22/2025
"Resilience isn’t about avoiding change; it’s about learning to thrive within it."
Join us for a special live episode of the Mastering Agility Podcast, recorded at the ScanAgile Conference 2025! Our guest, Tricia Broderick, is a leadership expert, coach, and passionate advocate for building high-performing and resilient teams. In this insightful conversation, we explore how leaders can foster true agility in their teams, navigate uncertainty, and empower individuals to drive innovation.
Tricia shares her experiences in leadership development, the key challenges she sees in agile transformations, and practical strategies for cultivating a culture of trust, resilience, and collaboration. Whether you’re a seasoned leader or an aspiring change agent, this episode is packed with actionable takeaways you won’t want to miss!
Connect with Tricia:
linkedin.com/in/tricia-broderick
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Duration:00:56:55
#128 Starry Nights and Soulless Office: Jim and Sander on Van Gogh, Corporate Dementors, and the Art of Mastery
4/15/2025
"I don’t like the phrase 'meet people where they are.' If you only do that, it’s too easy for everyone to settle. Instead, I try to meet them a half-step ahead—and take them on a field trip to what’s possible."
In this episode, Jim and Sander talk about the pursuit of mastery, how to inspire growth, and why being too comfortable can kill progress. From Van Gogh's late start to corporate energy vampires, this conversation is part therapy, part stand-up, and -as usual- fully human.
In this heartfelt and candid episode, Sander and Jim meet up at the Xebia studio for a conversation that blends humor, vulnerability, and inspiration. They unpack what it means to pursue mastery, how creativity emerges in unlikely places, and why many of us wrestle with the pressure of "starting too late."
The dynamic duo reflects on Jim's experiences from the Van Gogh Museum, shares personal goals like writing a book and dives deep into what success truly means—especially when you feel like time is slipping away.
They also tackle workplace dynamics, including how to deal with energy vampires on teams, giving and receiving feedback effectively, and staying authentic even when the work gets tough.
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Duration:00:58:43
#127 Rowing in the Same Direction: Strategic Agility with Co-Founder and CEO of Dragonboat Becky Flint
3/28/2025
"We don't do the thinking for you—we surface signals out of the noise."
In this episode of Mastering Agility, Sander and Jim sit down with Becky Flint, CEO and Co-Founder of Dragon Boat, to discuss the importance of strategic agility and value-driven product management. Becky shares her journey from working at PayPal to founding Dragon Boat, a product portfolio management platform. She highlights how modern organizations can thrive by aligning strategy with execution and enabling empowered, decentralized teams.
Get in touch with Becky:
(31) Becky Flint | LinkedIn
Modern SPM Platform for Product Operating Model | Dragonboat
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Duration:00:54:50
#126 Agile: Alive and Evolving with Arie van Bennekum
3/23/2025
"When people say Agile is dead, most of them have never seen it really working."
In this insightful episode, Sander sits down with Arie van Bennekum, one of the co-authors of the Agile Manifesto, to discuss the current state of Agile, common misconceptions, and the evolving nature of agile practices in modern organizations. Arie shares his thoughts on why Agile is far from dead and how many organizations still struggle to truly implement it. They also discuss the importance of leadership in agile transformations and how to anchor agile practices for long-term success.
Connect with Arie:
Arie van Bennekum
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Duration:00:37:00
#125 From Pivotitis to Product Perfection: Fighting Product Diseases with Radhika Dutt
3/15/2025
In this eye-opening episode, we sit down with Radhika Dutt, the mind behind Radical Product Thinking. Radhika challenges the conventional wisdom of product development, explaining why big, vague visions, shallow strategies, and blind iteration often lead teams astray. She introduces us to the Radical Product Thinking framework, which helps teams avoid common "product diseases" like HERO Syndrome, Pivotitis, and Obsessive Sales Disorder.
We also discuss the dangers of Silicon Valley’s "fail fast" mentality, how to balance vision vs. survival, and why spreadsheet-driven prioritization can be misleading. Plus, Radhika gives us a sneak peek into her next book on rethinking metrics, OKRs, and goal-setting—challenging another widely accepted business practice.
Connect with Radhika:
(22) Radhika Dutt | LinkedIn
Contact | Radical Product Thinking
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Duration:01:00:59
#124 Survival, Strength, and Saving Lives: Arjan Erkel on 607 Days in Captivity and Rescuing Girls from Exploitation
3/7/2025
In this gripping episode, Sander and Jim sit down with Arjan Erkel, who shares his harrowing experience of being kidnapped and held hostage for 607 days in Dagestan. Arjan walks us through the terrifying moment of his abduction, the psychological battles he faced in captivity, and the resilience that helped him survive. He also discusses his remarkable mindset shift, the unexpected relationships he built with his captors, and how he reclaimed his life after being freed.
Beyond his personal story, Arjan sheds light on his work with Free a Girl, an organization dedicated to rescuing children from sexual exploitation. We also dive into what businesses and individuals can learn from his experiences—resilience, adaptability, and the power of taking small steps in difficult situations.
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Duration:01:24:29
#123 Curiosity and Crust: What Sourdough Teaches About Agile with Tammy Gretz
2/27/2025
In this episode, Jim sits down with Tammy Gretz, an Agile and Design Thinking coach based in Central Ohio. They dive deep into the nuances of coaching, the value of curiosity and partnership, and how these concepts relate to agile methodologies and design thinking. They also touch on topics like personal growth, learning through experimentation, and even the art of baking sourdough bread as a metaphor for empiricism and patience in agile practices.
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Tammy Gretz
(30) Tamara Gretz | LinkedIn
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Duration:00:59:42
#122 Anchors, Bold Moves, and Flies on Urinals: The Subtle Power of Behavioral Science with Phill Agnew
2/5/2025
💡 Description:
In this thought-provoking episode of Mastering Agility, Jim and Marge sit down with Phil Agnew, host of the UK’s #1 marketing podcast, Nudge. Together, they explore the fascinating world of behavioral science, revealing how subtle nudges shape our decisions, from marketing campaigns to everyday life.
Discover the psychology behind why we choose one option over another, the ethical considerations of influence, and how businesses (and individuals) can apply these principles for positive change. Whether it’s anchoring on menus, using loss aversion to boost performance, or avoiding the pitfalls of overused marketing tricks, this episode is packed with actionable insights and real-world examples.
🔑 What You’ll Learn:
The role of behavioral science in marketing and decision-making.
Why ethical influence is more critical than ever.
How businesses and individuals can use nudges to drive behavior.
The power of anchoring, loss aversion, and social proof.
Surprising examples of influence—from handwritten notes to painted flies on urinals!
Connect with Phill on LinkedIn: (10) Phill Agnew | LinkedIn
Check out Phill's podcast Nudge: Nudge Podcast
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Duration:00:55:22
#121 Wise bees, optimized Learning and acceptable Discomfort: Mastering Agility Hosts and Ryan Brook Reflect on 2024
1/29/2025
In this reflective and inspiring year-end episode of Mastering Agility, hosts Sander Dur and Jim Sammons are joined by "Solving For Value" co-author and "evil twin" Ryan Brook, along with editor extraordinaire Marge Scheuerer, for a conversation about leadership, agility, and the ever-elusive definition of success.
From personal growth in 2024 to the challenges of balancing work and personal satisfaction - this episode dives deep into what it means to be a leader, a consultant, and, above all, human. With topics ranging from the over-certification of Scrum Masters to giving back through charitable work, this episode is packed with humor, introspection, and actionable insights for leaders and agile practitioners alike.
Why not all Scrum Masters are created equal.
The importance of balancing career ambitions with personal fulfillment.
What it means to be a leader versus a manager.
The evolving definition of “enough” in life and work.
Pro bono work and giving back to the community.
How to create personalized approaches to learning and leadership.
The joys of being authentic—and the challenges it brings.
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Optilearn | Scrum Training That You Can Trust
(9) Ryan Brook | LinkedIn
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Duration:01:08:01
#120 From Critique to Connection: The Path to Growth and Connection through feedback with James De Mulder
1/24/2025
Description:
In this episode, Sander and Jim dive deep into the art and science of feedback. Joined by James De Mulder, they explore the nuances of giving and receiving feedback, its role in personal and team growth, and the challenges that come with it. Learn how principles from Nonviolent Communication (NVC) can transform feedback into a powerful tool for connection and collaboration. Plus, discover how AI tools like ChatGPT can help you refine your feedback skills.
💡 What You'll Learn:
Why feedback is about connection, not criticism.
How to use the four components of Nonviolent Communication in feedback.
Tips for delivering feedback that resonates and empowers.
The importance of timing and context in feedback conversations.
How managers can foster psychological safety and trust within teams.
Practical applications of AI for practicing and improving feedback delivery
Connect with James on LinkedIn: (9) James De Mulder | LinkedIn
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Duration:01:13:41
E119 Solving for Value with Ryan Brook and Sander Dur
1/14/2025
In this conversation, Jim talks to Sander, and Ryan about their book 'Solving for Value', exploring its motivations, tone, and the importance of authenticity and empathy in consultancy. They delve into the complexities of work relationships, the significance of critical thinking, and the shared struggles many face in their professional lives.
The discussion also touches on the challenges of measuring success beyond monetary ROI and the personal reflections that come with being business owners, culminating in a light-hearted exchange about their favorite holiday movies. In this engaging conversation, Jim, Sander and Ryan discuss a variety of themes ranging from holiday movie favorites to the impact of social media and nostalgia. They discuss the allure of big cities, the dangers of apathy in the workplace, and the importance of critical thinking. The conversation wraps up with reading recommendations and reflections on the writing process.
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Duration:01:01:46
#118 Agile Alchemy: Turning Refinement into Gold
11/29/2024
"Refinement is about gathering enough information to get started, not pre-cooking the entire task."
In this episode of Mastering Agility, Jim and Sander explore the concept of Refinement in agile teams, discussing its purpose in creating shared understanding, adding details, and aligning on goals. Refinement isn’t about perfect planning but ensuring teams have enough information to start effectively.
The hosts highlight the evolving role of the product owner, the importance of continuous communication, and practical strategies to avoid common pitfalls like over-refinement and meeting overload. Their key advice: focus on the five W’s and the how, empower teams to take ownership, and maintain flexibility in the refinement process.
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Duration:00:30:27
#117 - Beyond Frameworks: Ambition, AI, and Agility - Part 2
11/22/2024
In this podcast episode, Jim and Sander discuss the final stages of Sander and Ryan Brooks's upcoming book, Solving for Value: A Journey of Ambition and Stupidity. Sander shares his excitement around the book's December 1st release and the launch event. The book, originally focused on Scrum, evolved to address broader challenges around creating value in product management beyond just following frameworks.
Jim and Sander explore shifts in the industry toward product-centric models, noting the risks of adopting frameworks like Scrum without considering organizational context and the tendency for companies to prematurely abandon or restructure teams when products fail, disregarding the team’s accumulated knowledge and cohesion.
They discuss the rising use of AI in product management and workforce reductions tied to AI, cautioning that while AI has potential, it also brings significant ethical and operational risks. Jim and Sander question whether AI advancements could meet needs without fully replacing human roles and the broader impacts on industry and society.
The conversation touches on the potential impact of technologies like Neuralink and AI on future work and human life, noting ethical, social, and economic implications, including the challenges of accessibility to these advancements. They wrap up by promoting the book's storytelling approach, which mixes a business fable with real-life insights, aiming to deliver practical, relatable learning for those in product development and management.
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Duration:00:41:11