Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life Podcast

AI is advancing rapidly — but our thinking about its impact on humanity is lagging behind. In this episode of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, Francine Beleyi welcomes back Jazz Rasool, Industry 5.0 strategist and advisor on human–machine collaboration, to explore a critical distinction shaping the future of leadership, work, and ethics: Human-centred AI is not enough. We need humanity-centred AI. Jazz explains why centring AI on “humans” can still legitimise harm, misalignment, and loss of responsibility — and why a humanity-centred approach protects conscience, compassion, dignity, and meaning. Together, they examine what must never be automated, how organisations confuse optimisation with flourishing, and what it truly means to stay on purpose in the AI age. In this episode, we explore: A thoughtful conversation for leaders, professionals, and change-makers navigating work, purpose, and responsibility in the age of AI.

AI is changing how work, leadership and value are defined — and many capable people feel unsettled, not because they lack skills, but because they no longer know where they fit. This podcast explores purpose, leadership and human relevance in the AI age. Season 11 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life is for leaders, professionals, and change-makers navigating identity, relevance, and responsibility as artificial intelligence reshapes the world of work. Through deep conversations and reflective solo episodes, we explore: Each episode includes a Purpose Sprint — a short, practical reflection to help you think clearly and act with intention. This podcast isn’t about mastering AI. It’s about staying human — and on purpose. The shownotes and free Ikigai test are at www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast

In this final episode of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life Season 10, I’m wrapping up the season by reflecting on the inspiring conversations with trailblazing leaders. In Season 10, themed Leaders on a Mission, I brought to light the powerful stories of individuals who are redefining success and making tangible, positive impacts on the world. From providing life-changing employment opportunities to ensuring accessible legal support for underrepresented founders, this season was full of lessons on purposeful leadership and social innovation. Listen to Episode 124 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life to hear some of the most transformative conversations and discover the inspiration that Season 10 brought. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/ #MeaningfulWork #LeadersOnAMission #MWMLSeason10 #Entrepreneurship #Empowerment #Storytelling #Leadership #PurposeDriven

You may have heard the buzz about fractional CMO, fractional COO, fractional CEO lately, but what exactly does it mean—and why is everyone talking about it? Imagine being able to control your work hours, choose your clients, and do more of what you love without being tied to a full-time executive role. Fractional leadership is that game-changing opportunity, and in this episode 123 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, and the final of Season 10, I sit down with Karina Mikhli, a leader in this Fractional space, to share her journey and expertise. Four years ago, Karina couldn’t have imagined the impact she would create in the world of fractional leadership. Her journey has led her to an unexpected but powerful reality. Karina had already built an impressive career in publishing and operations but found herself drawn to something different—something more flexible and aligned with her passion for optimising businesses. She discovered fractional leadership, a role that allowed her to help companies scale without being confined to a traditional executive job. But she didn’t stop there. Karina saw a need for a supportive network for fractional leaders, and so she founded @Fractionals United, now a vibrant community of nearly 11,000 members! Like many entrepreneurs, Karina faced challenges—navigating self-doubt, building a community from scratch, and balancing work with her creative outlets. This conversation will inspire anyone who’s considering the leap into fractional leadership or looking for ways to make a meaningful impact in their career. 🔊 Ready to dive into the future of work and learn how Karina’s mission is reshaping leadership? Listen to Episode 123 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life to hear more about Karina’s journey from being born in Ukraine, transitioning from a high school teacher to becoming a fractional COO. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Karina Mikhli, the guest • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karinamikhli/ • Website: https://www.karinamikhli.com/ | https://www.fractionalsunited.com/ Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/

She made a powerful discovery that would change her life! Ghita Zniber, venture capitalist and co-founder of Kalys Ventures realised that her true passion wasn't leading her own entrepreneurial journey but supporting others in theirs. In this insightful episode 122 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, Ghita shares her journey from a diverse educational background to becoming a key player in the African startup ecosystem. She delves into her mission to support entrepreneurs, particularly in Africa, and the personal values that guide her in both life and work. Tune in to this episode to learn more about Ghita’s unique path to becoming a key player in the African startup ecosystem, how she’s helping startups to create meaningful impact and her advice for entrepreneurs to successfully pitch their businesses to investors. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Ghita Zniber, the guest • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghita-zniber-351a5290/ • Website: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kalys-ventures/ Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/ #AfricanStartups #VentureCapital #Entrepreneurship #femalefounders

She took a bold leap when she realised: “If on paper everything is right and I’m still unhappy, something’s wrong.” Today, that leap has turned her vision into reality. Aravinda Seshadri graduated from Stanford Law School and became a partner at a boutique law firm. On the surface, her career seemed perfect. But she knew something was missing. She craved more than just success—she wanted to make a meaningful impact. Aravinda believes that legal support shouldn’t be a luxury for startups, especially those founded by underrepresented and marginalized entrepreneurs. In episode 121 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, Aravinda Seshadri, Founding Partner of Venturous Counsel, shares her inspiring journey from Stanford to creating a unique law firm dedicated to supporting diverse founders in the tech industry. We dive deep into her passion for social justice, the importance of diversity in startups, and practical advice for navigating the legal landscape as an entrepreneur. Tune in to get inspired by Aravinda's story! More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Aravinda Seshadri, the guest • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aravindas/ • Website: https://www.venturouscounsel.com/ Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/ Keywords: Aravinda Seshadri, Venturous Counsel, underrepresented founders, legal support, diversity in tech, startup law, venture capital, networking tips, intellectual property protection, mission-driven work. #DiverseFounders #StartupLaw #VentureCapital #LegalAdvice

This is what’s missing in how we approach solving the world’s biggest challenges: A shift from individualism to something bigger—collaboration. In this #120 episode of "Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life," I had the honour of speaking with Karim Sy, a serial entrepreneur and founder of Jokkolabs. With roots in Mali, Lebanon, and Senegal, Karim has spent his career fostering entrepreneurship and technological innovation across Africa. Join us as we explore Karim's fascinating journey, his mission to drive social change through open-source technology, and his vision for a collaborative future in Africa's entrepreneurial ecosystem. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Karim Sy, the guest https://www.linkedin.com/in/karimsy/https://www.linkedin.com/company/jokkolabs/

What if the key to overcoming your greatest challenges isn’t your circumstances, but the stories you tell yourself? 🎙️ In episode 119 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, I had the incredible opportunity to speak with Dr. Constance Scharff, a global leader in mental health research and the founder of The Human Resilience Project. We dive into her groundbreaking research on resilience within indigenous communities, the transformative power of storytelling, and the link between climate change and mental health. Tune in to learn about the profound impact of narratives on personal growth and healing. More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Dr. Constance Scharff, the guest https://www.linkedin.com/in/cscharffhttps://www.constancescharff.com/ Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/

How do you move from building a career to embracing your life’s true calling? In episode 118 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, I have an inspiring conversation with Olatokunbo Ige, a former international human rights lawyer turned social entrepreneur. With over four decades of global experience, Olatokunbo reveals her powerful transition from the United Nations to founding initiatives like Livingstones Ecovillage and UTRADER. Her journey is a testament to resilience, faith, and a deep commitment to community empowerment and sustainable development. Join us as we uncover how Olatokunbo is pioneering meaningful, lasting change across Africa and beyond. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Olatokunbo Ige, the guest • LinkedIn: https://tg.linkedin.com/in/olatokunbo-ige-b476b239 • Website: https://thelivingstonesfamily.com/ecovillage/ Related resources 🎁Free Download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/

In this episode 117 of “Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life,” we explore the incredible journey of Matt Parfitt, Founder and CEO of Grace Enterprises. Matt shares his transition from primary school teacher to social entrepreneur, detailing how his faith-driven mission has led to the creation of several successful social enterprises. These businesses provide meaningful employment to individuals facing significant barriers, such as homelessness and addiction, while promoting sustainable and ethical business practices. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Matt Parfitt, the guest • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattparfitt/ • Website: http://www.graceenterprises.co.uk Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/

When people think of virtual assistants, they rarely think of African talent In this episode 116 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, we sit down with Erefa Coker, the founder of IMÒ Interns, a groundbreaking platform that connects businesses worldwide with skilled, remote interns from Africa. With a background in HR and a passion for creating economic opportunities, Erefa shares her journey, the challenges she’s faced, and her mission to empower young African talent. We dive into how she built trust with international clients, the impact of remote work, and her vision for the future of global employment. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Erefa Cocker, the guest • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erefa-fynecontry-coker/ • Website: https://www.imointerns.app/ Related resources 🎁Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/

In this episode 115 of “Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life,” we kick off our season 10 “Leaders on a Mission” series with Christopher Marquis, Sinyi Professor at the University of Cambridge Judge School of Business and author of the book “The Profiteers: How Business Privatises Profits and Socialises Costs.” Chris exposes the strategies companies use to shift environmental and societal costs while maximising profits for shareholders. He also highlights pioneering companies that are actively creating positive impacts, offering a roadmap for transformation. Chris shares his personal journey, his inspiration from students, and insights into corporate sustainable responsibility. If you're passionate about corporate sustainability, curious about how businesses can be a force for good or seeking inspiration to align your work with your values, this episode is a must-listen. Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review of the podcast if you liked this episode. More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Connect with Chris Marquis, the guest • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-marquis/ • Website: https://chrismarquis.com/ Related resources • Book: The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socializes Costs by Christopher Marquis 🎁Free Download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/

I’m excited to have you join me for Season 10 of the Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life podcast! "Leaders on a Mission" We’ll be delving into the personal journeys, impactful work, and visionary leadership of extraordinary individuals who are making a real difference in the world. Throughout this season, you’ll hear from leaders who are driving social change, empowering underserved communities, and challenging the way we think about business, innovation, and leadership. Each episode brings a unique perspective, with stories that will inspire you to take action and align your work with a deeper sense of purpose. Without giving too much away, I can promise you this: each episode is packed with insights, wisdom, and actionable advice from leaders who are not just talking about change—they’re making it happen. 🔸 So, whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone searching for your true path, there’s something in this season for everyone. 🔸 Make sure you subscribe on your favourite podcast platform and here on Youtube, so you don't miss any episode, and get ready to be inspired! I can’t wait for you to hear these incredible stories. Links 🎧Tune in every Tuesday for a new episode of the Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life podcast on Apple podcast, Spotify or any of your favourite podcast platforms 🔗 The show notes of the episode and the Youtube video are at https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast ✔️ Free download: The Ultimate Guide to Building Trust, Profit & Making an Impact https://nucleusofchange.com/buildingtrust/ ✔️ Connect with Francine Beleyi on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ #MWMLpodcast #MeaningfulWork #PurposedrivenLeaders #LeadersonaMission

When considering employee advocacy or brand ambassador programs, organisations often assume: ⛔ It’s just employees sharing marketing on social media ⛔ It’s not relevant for managers and executives ⛔ It’s about continuously praising the company ⛔Tightly controlling the messaging of employee advocates is the key to success. ⛔ It’s only for sales and marketing staff However, my guests in season 9 of my podcast Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life shared insights dispelling these myths and revealing the true potential of employee advocacy: ✅ Success requires share-worthy content and a culture where people enjoy working. (episode #104 Bradley Keenan) ✅ Allow people to proudly share what they're passionate about in your organisation (episode #105 Jessica Pharm) ✅ Executives should lead by example in sharing first online (episode #106 Michael Sørensen) ✅Invest in managers' abilities to form authentic relationships with their collaborators. (episode #109 Kristin Bell) ✅ Hire smart people who align with your values and support their wellbeing. People need to feel at home when working with you. (episode #108 Yao Azumah) ✅ Encourage self-belief and compassionate leadership. Stop, look and listen (episode #107 @Harpal Dhatt) ✅ Balance profits and human rights through human-centered technology. (episode #111 Fatima Roumate) ✅Coach managers to help employees navigate their careers and feel they belong. (episode #110 Antonia Bartels) Done right, an employee advocacy program simply empowers people for a mutually beneficial partnership built on trust and care. The old command-and-control mindsets misunderstand this potential. But now you see the power of an authentic approach. 🎁Are you ready to learn how to start or strengthen your own employee advocacy journey? Reach out https://www.francinebeleyi.com/call/ More info about the podcast • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/ • Watch on Youtube https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host. • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/ • Website: https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Related resources. • Take the free Personal Branding for Impact (PBI) test www.francinebeleyi.com/pbitest • Download Whitepaper - Redesigning a Thriving Post-Pandemic Organization: How to Retain Your Talent & Turn Them into Your Biggest Advocates https://www.francinebeleyi.com/talentretention/ I appreciate all who joined me on this journey of exploring meaningful work and meaningful life. See you in season 10!

Before closing out season 9 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life podcast, I revisit a key question I love asking my guests: If I gave you 1 billion pounds today, what would you do? I ask this because it reveals our true motivations. How often do we ask ourselves what we'd really want if money were no object? This is how my guests this season answered. Their responses may surprise and motivate you! Let’s Tune in More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host. https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/ Related resources. francinebeleyi.com/pbitesthttps://www.francinebeleyi.com/talentretention/

As AI takes over more repetitive tasks, what unique human abilities remain irreplaceable at work? In this episode, #111 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life podcast, we explore how leaders can nurture human skills, creativity, and meaning in an increasingly tech-driven workplace. My guest, Fatima Roumate, is a professor at the University Mohammed V in Morocco. Her research focuses on the international relations and legal implications of AI. Inspired by her father's stories of fighting colonialism as a child, Fatima decided to study international relations to understand global issues. She then realized how technology is a crucial connecting point between different fields and focused her research on international relations and technology. Key Highlights: This thoughtful conversation provides guidance on empowering human values and principles in an increasingly tech-driven workplace. More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Fatima Roumate https://www.linkedin.com/in/fatima-roumate-17193920/https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Fatima-Roumate Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host. https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/

“When people thrive, the organisation thrive.” In this episode #110, I’m joined by Antonia Bartels, director at Randstad RiseSmart. With a focus on coaching and career transition, Antonia advocates for creating a work environment where employees not only excel but feel at home. She believes that this leads to greater talent mobility, innovation, and retention within organisations. Antonia brings her expertise in career navigation and coaching to global businesses, emphasising the importance of engaged and happy employees. Key Highlights ✅ Even in challenging economic conditions, organisations need to recognise the need to remain a talent destination. Antonia outlines the essential conditions for achieving this status. ✅ Understanding and meeting individual needs leads to heightened engagement and productivity among team members. ✅ Antonia stresses the critical role of respect and alignment with organisational values during times of redundancies, as this influences the organisation's reputation. ✅ She explains why treating employees well throughout their journey with the company is essential for cultivating them into effective brand ambassadors. ✅ We explore the importance of equipping managers to engage in coaching conversations and ultimately become effective coaches themselves. Join us in this insightful conversation as we delve into the strategies for organisations to not only attract top talent but also retain and nurture it. More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Antonia Bartels https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniabartels/ Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host. https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/

Have you ever felt stuck during a performance review, wondering how to react to something you disagree with? The work landscape has significantly shifted from the days when we had little say in how our performance was assessed. In today's world, employees are actively participating in the performance management process. They're no longer merely recipients of feedback but are shaping their own evaluations. In episode #109 of the *Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life* podcast, Kristin Bell, a courageous advocate, shares her mission to create avenues of opportunity for those who have been systemically excluded, underserved, and underestimated. Kristin is a global diversity, equity, and inclusion executive, a tech entrepreneur, and a respected thought leader. I often emphasize the power of Personal Branding for Impact, and Kristin embodies this concept perfectly. She leverages her voice, position, and advantages to champion the cause and open doors for those who might not have had the chance otherwise. Key Takeaways: Our discussion touches on how many organizations are setting diversity hiring goals without addressing the internal work needed. Kristen emphasizes the need for creating brave spaces in the workplace and what that entails. She introduces her platforms: CultureCite, designed to help employees navigate unfair workplace experiences, and ReviewTailor, a performance management software utilizing AI to generate equitable reviews. She believes that Employee Advocacy can be a critical element in advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion, fostering a positive work environment, and advocating for underrepresented groups. Kristin shares a poignant moment where she was a conduit, providing someone with the opportunity to get a foot in the door. Join us in this enlightening conversation as we explore the double power of Employee Advocacy - advocating for oneself and becoming a brand ambassador for your company. More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Kristin Bell https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinlbell/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanroberts CultureCite www.CultureCite.com www.LinkedIn.com/company/CultureCite https://www.facebook.com/culturecite ReviewTailor www.ReviewTailor.com www.LinkedIn.com/company/ReviewTailor https://www.facebook.com/TryReviewTailor Connect with Francine Beleyi, the host https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/

How can fostering personal branding and employee advocacy not only empower a team but also authentically communicate a company's mission and impact? Join us as we explore this dynamic with Professor Yao Azumah, Managing Director of Kya Energy Group, on their quest to make sustainable energy accessible to underserved communities in Africa. In episode #108 of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life podcast, Prof. Azumah shares his inspiring journey in energy engineering, his frustration with restrictive systems and his dream of bringing affordable energy. Highlights Join us in this enlightening conversation as we explore how Kya Energy Group is lighting the way for a brighter, more sustainable future. More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Kya Energy Group https://www.linkedin.com/in/yao-azoumah-96b1435b/https://www.linkedin.com/in/sylvieshikpe/https://www.kya-energy.com/https://www.facebook.com/kya.energy/ Connect with Francine Beleyi https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/

What’s the role of kindness and its importance in personal and professional growth? In this episode, I am joined by Harpal Dhatt, also known as the Kindness Chef. She is a podcast host, a visiting lecturer at the University of Westminster, and the founder of Kindness Cafes. She helps leaders create a culture of kindness with nourishing recipes & menus to increase wellbeing. Harpal explains how her journey began with compassion but evolved into focusing on kindness. She emphasizes the need for self-compassion and discusses the challenges of practicing kindness, especially when people are suffering. Highlights More info about the podcast https://www.francinebeleyi.com/podcast/https://bit.ly/3LKwUT1 Connect with Harpal Dhatt https://www.linkedin.com/in/harpaldhatt/kindnesschef.comhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Transforming-Trauma-Discovering-Wholeness-Healing/dp/1529398126 Connect with Francine Beleyi https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinebeleyi/https://www.francinebeleyi.com/