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A marketing podcast for business owners. The brief conversations of this marketing podcast are filled with practical tips from business owners and marketing professionals from around the world.

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A marketing podcast for business owners. The brief conversations of this marketing podcast are filled with practical tips from business owners and marketing professionals from around the world.

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English

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#1002 Women in Technology | Denzil Eden

5/9/2024
I spent some time with Denzil Eden, the founder of Smarty AI, an AI productivity assistant that aims to enhance routines and automate tasks. Denzil shared her experience as a female entrepreneur in the tech space. Throughout our conversation, she had great insights and advice for other women looking to play in the tech space. Here are the key points from the interview: Challenges in the Tech Space: Denzil shares her journey as a young, female founder in the tech space and highlights the uphill battle she faced due to the crowded productivity market and the subconscious biases against women in tech. Her perseverance and resilience helped her navigate these challenges, ultimately leading her to success. Advice for Aspiring Founders: Denzil emphasizes the importance of validating ideas and understanding customers' needs before building a product. She suggests using landing pages, prototypes, and user interviews to gauge interest and gather feedback before investing significant time and resources, which can save founders from pursuing ideas that may not have market demand. Investor Relationships: Denzil advises that founders should carefully vet potential investors, treating the relationship like a marriage. Finding investors who align with the company's vision and the founder's values ensures a smoother partnership and greater support for the business's long-term goals. Cultivating Networks: She stresses the importance of building and maintaining a strong professional network, as it can greatly benefit a founder's career and the success of their business. Denzil notes that networking helps founders access resources, advice, and potential collaborators, all of which can be crucial for growth.

Duration:00:11:03

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#1001 Create 30 Days of Content in 90 Minutes | Aaron Witnish

5/7/2024
I don't know about you, but I spend way too much time creating content. I'm always looking for a faster way to get it done so I can get back to the part of my business that actually generates revenue. If you're struggling with those same issues this conversation with Aaron Witnish is just for you. Aaron introduces a three-step process for generating thirty days of content in just ninety minutes. To start the process, do a bit of research. Use Google’s "People Also Ask" feature to identify questions real people are asking about your product or service every day. Once you have the questions record the answers. You can gather a wealth of material in a short video that can be repurposed into clips for social media or longer written posts. Using AI Tools like Opus Clip you can easily cut long videos into short clips, saving time and effort in the editing process. Using Chat GPT to summarize the transcript creates content that is still authentic because it started with your words, not a generic search Aaron also shared some of his favorite production tips and suggestions for collaborating with podcast hosts. About Aaron Aaron Witnish is the Co-Founder of contentonly.au which specializes in an extraction system that creates 30 Days Of Content In 90 minutes a month.

Duration:00:10:33

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#1000 - Celebrating 1,000 Conversations.

5/3/2024
If you had told me fifteen years ago, when I was running around recording conversations on my iphone that I would still be doing it a thousand episodes later, I would have told you you were crazy. But here I am, celebrating 1,000 episodes. I have had an amazing ride meeting interesting people from all over the world. I have learned so much from them about marketing and marketing trends and I have enjoyed sharing that information with you, my audience. So instead of asking for anniversary presents, I want to give you one. I have a special thank you offer. If you comment on post and tag me, anywhere on social media, share a screen grab of a review, or simply drop me a note, I'll send you a code for unlimited, free access the toolbox. That is a lifetime membership so you'll have the ability to access all of the training programs, all the workbooks, all the content, forever. So drop a review, send me a note or leave a comment and you're in. And, if you're curious about any of the conversations you've missed you'll find them in the archive Subscribe now, so you never miss another episode.

Duration:00:01:56

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#999 Short Form Video Tips with Jennifer Denney

5/2/2024
Like it or not, short form video needs to be a part of your overall plan. So Jennifer Denney and I chatted about some of the things you can do to make better looking, short form content, with minimal effort. 1) Remember it is disposable content, so it doesn't need to be perfect. 2) Record longer content and break it up into smaller bites (under a minute in length). That is much easier than trying to record one short tip every day. 3) Use AI to create shorts with captions. 4) Keep the main image in the frame. Different platforms will crop; the video in different ways. 5) Mix up the style so the content looks fresh in the feed, but still looks like your brand 6) Don't be afraid to reshare videos that your audience may not have seen. More on this topic FREE TRIAL OF OPUS CLIPS TO START CREATING YOUR SHORT VIDEOS.

Duration:00:12:35

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#998 Meditation for the Real World

4/30/2024
If you are like most business owners there is a lot of chaos and stress in your day. So sometimes you just need to take a breath. I have talked with other stress reduction experts in the past, so it was fun to revisit the topic with Ann Swanson, a best-selling author whose book on yoga practices has been translated into 15 languages. In this conversation we talk about how a few minutes of yoga or meditation can completely reset your day. These simple techniques provide immediate stress reduction and improvement in your ability to focus. A short pause can also lower blood pressure and heart rate. Ann shared some simple techniques such as focusing on breath and body sensations. Shifting your attention to relaxing just one part of your body. Integrating mindfulness cues into your daily activities, LEARN MORE

Duration:00:11:32

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997 Give Your Voice to AI

4/28/2024
These days, every content marketer is experimenting with AI. And it is a wonderful tool if you use it well. For example, you can ask it to create 10 or 12 social media posts that refer back to one blog post. However, you need to review those updates and make sure they actually sound like you because left to its own devices, artificial intelligence has essentially two voices. Stuffy Professional and College Frat Boy. If neither of those tones are you, you need to go in and tweak the tone so the content content sounds like it's coming from you. I've had a lot of great conversations about AI lately with some really smart people. Be sure to look for them in the feed and subscribe, so you never miss another episode.

Duration:00:01:21

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#996 Masterminding Success

4/25/2024
If you’re like most business owners you don’t have all the answers. There’s so many skills you need to master, and tasks you need to accomplish that you may need to turn to the experts to get your questions answered. Hiring an army of consultants can be overwhelming and expensive so that’s when belonging to a mastermind group can be so beneficial Zachary Parker Harris joined me to discuss the benefits of mastermind groups for business owners. As the leader of Junto Global, he helps entrepreneurs connect and build relationships for business success. Parker explained how a mastermind group creates the space for continuous learning and relationship building. To be effective, there needs to be open and authentic communication where members can bring both their strengths and weaknesses to the table. They discuss the value of exploring high-leverage questions and how masterminds can uncover deeper issues than initially apparent. Comparing mastermind groups to consulting, Parker explains the unique advantage is having multiple perspectives simultaneously, offering both support and challenge to entrepreneurs.

Duration:00:11:50

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#995 Use AI to Repurpose Your Content | Greg Wasserman

4/23/2024
If you're like me, you're cranking out a ton of marketing content and your wishing you could get way more bang for every minute you put into it. Well, according to Greg Wasserman, head of growth partnerships and community for Cast Magic, if you're willing to enlist the aid of a little AI your can make the time you spend much more effective. Greg really believes in the importance of recording everything, whether it's thoughts, meetings, or conversations, as potential content sources. With the help of AI tools you can transform these recordings into various resources, such as blog posts, social media clips, and LinkedIn posts, giving you a consistent content presence without spending hours and hours to create the content. . Think about content as a volume play, as you try to increase your brand visibility and engagement. Greg suggests using AI to repurpose content not only saves time but also allows you to cater to the evolving algorithms of search platforms. For example, Google prioritizes content that answers customers' questions. So lean on AI to help your rewrite existing blog posts in a Q &A format. One important side note, AI will not replace you completely. Greg reminds the audience that It is critical to maintain authenticity in content creation. AI tools should complement your unique voice and brand rather than replace it entirely. Throughout the interview, Greg provides practical insights and examples, demonstrating how AI can streamline content creation processes and enhance brand presence across various digital platforms.

Duration:00:11:45

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994 - Why the Tortoise Always Wins

4/21/2024
As a kid I loved the story of the tortoise and the hare. One day the tortoise and the hare line up for a race. The hare with its speed seemed destined for victory. But the tortoise pulled off a surprising win. While he was clearly outclassed in speed the tortoise focused on the finish line. Steady and plodding he made consistent motion forward. In contrast the speedy rabbit burst forward, then paused and started again. His mad dash at the end just wasn't enough to win the day. I often think of this fable when I talk to business owners who are frustrated by the lack of results in their marketing. It's usually because they're approaching marketing like the hare. They get excited about a marketing idea and dive in with great energy and enthusiasm. Of course, they are expecting immediate results. When the results don't come they get distracted by the next great idea. They lose interest or simply forget. But good marketing rarely provides instant results. Sure it would be great if the first time you ran an ad or sent out a newsletter people flocked to your door. But that's not how marketing works. Every day people are presented with hundreds and maybe even thousands of advertising messages. As the human brain tries to make sense of this barrage of data people subconsciously give preference to things they're familiar with so your information and marketing may not make an impression the first time. Eventually it becomes familiar and your message breaks through. So if you want to win the race for marketing success take a lesson from the tortoise. Keep focused keep moving forward and I'll see you at the finish line

Duration:00:02:23

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#993 Using AI to Collect, Analyze and Use Data | Parker Olsen

4/18/2024
In this conversation, I jumped into the world of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and its applications beyond just content creation. Focusing on automation and workflow efficiency, AI enthusiast, Parker Olson discusses how he uses AI to streamline operations in his business, PodPitch - an initiative fueled by AI. Day-to-day business tasks like data collection, data analysis, content creation, and more can be efficiently automated using AI. Olson introduces us to some handy tools for such purposes, like Bardeen and the ChatGPT API for Google Sheets. These tools can gather data from popular websites, analyze large datasets, clean and summarize the data, and even outreach prospective customers - all in real-time. Today's businesses are leveraging AI to automate their LinkedIn tasks, using tools like MeetAlfred. Coupled with ChatGPT and Bardeen, this AI trio can run a comprehensive LinkedIn profile analysis to determine potential customers. By comparing and contrasting your profile information with others, it gives you a list of potential business connections. But AI doesn't stop at LinkedIn automation; it also helps identify other sources for content publishing and relevant websites for clients. By creating a Google filter for specific search terms, AI tools can gather data on the latest publishing channels directly into a spreadsheet and provide an insightful analysis of the content.

Duration:00:10:25

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#992 What is Your Problem Solving Style? | Kris Ward

4/15/2024
Kris Ward is back in the guest chair, this time with a lively conversation about entrepreneurial personalities. She delves into her unique approach of categorizing entrepreneurs into five distinct personalities based on their problem-solving and process management styles. From the "Rushaholic" who thrives on speed but may overlook details, to the "Sufferpreneur" who excels at crisis management but struggles with burnout, each personality has its strengths and weaknesses. As Kris introduces each personality type, she highlights the common pitfalls and misconceptions associated with them. You probably won't change your type so it is important to understand your tendencies and find a balance between the strengths and weaknesses of your personality. Kris encourages entrepreneurs to lean into their unique traits effectively, whether it's the meticulousness of the "Perfectionizer" or the multitasking prowess of the "Jugglerrama." Mastering your personality starts with self-awareness and Kris has offer listeners the opportunity to explore their own entrepreneurial personality with this simple quiz. ​

Duration:00:11:19

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#991 Social Media Chef

4/14/2024
My husband is an amazing cook. He reads recipes, comes up with his own variations, blending and layering ingredients in new and delicious ways. Even though he is amazing in our kitchen, he could not own a restaurant. Why? He knows how to time a meal with three dishes for eight people, but expanding that to thirty dishes, for one hundred people requires skills he does not have. What does it take to be a social media chef? The same challenge exists when it comes to professional social media. Lots of people are good on social media. They are funny and engaging. They have a large following and interact regularly. But just because they are great at managing their own accounts does not mean they have the skills to be a successful social media chef. Precise Recipes It is easy to improvise when you are cooking for a few people. A pinch of this, a dash of that. If you don’t have enough potatoes you can substitute with carrots. When you are cooking for a larger group and they expect a potato, that is what you have to serve. Slight variations will dramatically change your dishes when you are cooking on a large scale, so a precise recipe is required to order the food you need in bulk. In professional social media, that recipe is your content calendar. It outlines the ingredients (types of content) and the schedule (how often and when you will post). It is also used to create your shopping list. A professional doesn’t just grab a random stock image at the last minute. Posts are planned, appropriate images and Gifs are selected, or created and scheduled to drop in the timeline at exactly the right time. While many experts have conducted research to find the exact right time, Sprout social has a terrific post on this topic. A professional social media chef knows how to use the industry standards, individual client data, and their own experience honed across a range of clients to create the ideal schedule. Manage the Kitchen When my husband is cooking the rest of the family stays out of the kitchen. He manages his time, switching from pot to pot so every dish arrives on the table at the same time. That works on a small scale, but restaurant chefs must create standard practices, train their staff, delegate tasks, and stay on top of everything that is happening at the same time. They can let go because they have laid the groundwork. A professional social media chef will do the same thing. Whether they are part of your marketing team or an outside expert, their first task must be to create standard practices. Next, social media won’t work if you are relying on just one person to put messages out there. Everyone on your team needs to be trained and know how to engage in order to support the company’s social media program. Non-profit organizations with small staffs and large volunteer groups should extend this training to the loyal external community. When it comes to social media, the more people supporting the chef, the more delicious the result. Walk into any restaurant kitchen during the dinner rush and it feels a bit like managed chaos. Somehow, in this chaos, the chef knows what is going on at each station. Social media management can feel that way as well. This is especially true as you widen your team, allowing multiple people to share and even post directly to your social pages. A good social media chef is continually training, coaching, providing guidance to marshall the resources of their entire team.

Duration:00:01:43

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#990 Selling on LinkedIn with Karen Yankovich

4/11/2024
In this episode, I am joined by LinkedIn strategist and CEO of Uplevel Media, Karen Yankovich. A seasoned expert with over 30 years of experience, Karen talks about how LinkedIn can be instrumental in empowering women entrepreneurs and guiding individuals towards becoming industry thought leaders. The conversation begins with Karen elaborating on her approach to marketing based on relationship selling, a concept deeply ingrained in her due to her rich background in sales. By focusing on forming connections and creating mutually beneficial solutions, she explains how businesses can significantly benefit. Highlighting the platform’s positioning as a hub for all things business, she shares her views on why LinkedIn holds significant potential for wealth creation, personal branding and facilitating high-level business deals. She insists on investing even just 15 minutes a day building strategic relationships on LinkedIn can pave way for big contracts. Karen notes that to use LinkedIn effectively, it is crucial to have an appealing profile containing keywords related to your field of work. This way, your LinkedIn profile begins to attract suitable business prospects, thus creating a magnet-like effect. She further unpacks her networking strategies, discussing how to create impactful connections with potential clients, people with a similar target audience as yours, and journalists or influencers in your field. As a final note, Karen emphasizes consistency during this outreach process - connecting with a small number of people every week, rather than trying to meet everyone at once. Users are encouraged to apply Karen’s recommendations on their LinkedIn strategies to reach their business growth objectives. Tune in to this episode for game-changing insights from Karen Yankovich!

Duration:00:13:39

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#989 The Confirmation Process

4/9/2024
Join this insights-packed episode as we welcome Janet Falk, a seasoned communication professional, and the chief strategist at Falk Communications and Research. She brings over 30 years of experience and discusses her innovative approach to understanding the buyer's journey, diverging from the traditional perspectives. Janet challenges the common belief that the buyer's journey is a passive process. She proposes an alternative idea she dubs "the confirmation process". Through this lens, the buyer undertakes a more active role, seeking to validate the identity, skills, and credibility of the professional or vendor they consider. The episode delves deep into this confirmation process and its three critical steps: Confirming the identity of the vendor, the adequacy of their skills and experience, and social proof from others. Janet further explores how professionals can facilitate these steps, increasing their chances of positively influencing the buyer's journey. Moreover, this episode emphasizes the crucial role of client-focused content and the science of online presence in creating an effective buyer's journey. Janet neatly ties these concepts together, outlining a roadmap that optimizes both the vendor's showcase of expertise and the buyer's needs.

Duration:00:10:59

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988 - The Dangers of Marketing Wallpaper

4/7/2024
Has your brand become like background noise in the marketing landscape? Repeatedly saying the same thing has value as you try to establish a consistent brand . However, when it becomes a monotonous drone, your audience tunes out. If your message has lost its flavor and faded into the sea of sameness, it’s time to rekindle interest in your brand through subtle adjustments. Introduce a fresh hue into your visual palette or refine your verbiage to highlight a singular aspect of your message. These subtle shifts within the familiar can jolt your audience out of complacency and reignite their attention. It is like giving your brand a fresh coat of paint, revitalizing its presence in the minds of your audience.

Duration:00:01:06

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#987 A Name You Can Own with Samantha Bradshaw

4/4/2024
I had a great conversation with Samantha Bradshaw, a seasoned small business and intellectual property lawyer, about the process of naming a business. Yes, you want a cool name, but you also want one you can own and protect. Proactive Legal Prevention: Samantha emphasizes the importance of proactive measures to keep creative service providers out of legal entanglements. She highlights how businesses often encounter challenges when they receive "angry lawyer letters" or court documents, underscoring the necessity of building strategies to prevent such issues from arising in the first place. Balancing Uniqueness and Descriptiveness: Samantha discusses the delicate balance between creating a business name that is both unique and descriptive. While marketing professionals may advocate for SEO-friendly names that directly describe the services offered, Samantha explains the limitations of trademark protection for such generic terms. Instead, she encourages business owners to explore names that strike a balance between suggesting the nature of the business while remaining distinct and protectable. Trademark Protectability Spectrum: Samantha introduces the concept of a spectrum of trademark protectability, ranging from generic to fanciful names. She elucidates how names that are overly descriptive or generic, such as "Photographer Marketing Services," are unlikely to receive trademark protection. Conversely, names that are arbitrary or fanciful, like "Apple" for computers, hold significant trademark power due to their uniqueness. Creative Naming Strategies: Samantha shares practical advice on how to generate creative and trademarkable business names. She suggests brainstorming sessions where business owners can combine suggestive elements related to their industry to create distinctive names. By leveraging word-mashing techniques and considering tangentially related concepts, businesses can craft memorable and protectable brand identities. Trademark's Role in Business Growth: Finally, Samantha underscores the broader implications of trademark protection beyond legal compliance. Trademarks serve as essential assets that facilitate business growth, franchising, licensing opportunities, and brand recognition. By securing a trademark for their business name, entrepreneurs lay a solid foundation for future expansion and success. About Samantha Bradshaw Samantha Bradshaw is a small business and IP lawyer. After spending 5 years in Beirut, Lebanon, she came back to the US in 2018 and founded InLine Legal, the only 100% virtual Virginia-licensed law firm that keeps creative service providers out of the courtroom and in the studio with chief legal officer services for Virginia’s small businesses. Learn More: www.inlinelegal.com https://www.tiktok.com/@inlinelegal https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthabesq/ https://www.instagram.com/inlinelegal/ www.inlinelegal.com/trademarkquiz

Duration:00:11:07

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#986 Imposter Syndrome

4/2/2024
Zach Montroy dropped by for a discussion about imposter syndrome, particularly among founders and business leaders leaders. It is a common experience in the entrepreneurial journey and Zach emphasizes the role of self-compassion in combating imposter syndrome, suggesting that individuals should treat themselves with the same kindness and understanding they would offer to others. He offers practical strategies discussed include prioritizing tasks, practicing mindfulness, and developing emotional literacy to better understand and navigate one's own emotions. The discussion delves into the origins of imposter syndrome, often stemming from the transition into roles of leadership or entrepreneurship without formal training in those areas. Zach suggests that the weight of responsibility and the fear of failure can trigger imposter feelings, leading individuals to doubt their abilities and competence. Practical strategies are also discussed, including the importance of prioritizing tasks and focusing on one's unique contributions. Montroy suggests using tools like the Eisenhower matrix to identify essential tasks and avoid becoming overwhelmed by the multitude of responsibilities inherent in leadership roles. Additionally, he advocates for the practice of mindfulness as a means of developing emotional resilience and awareness. By observing thoughts and feelings without judgment, individuals can better navigate through moments of self-doubt and uncertainty. The conversation concludes with a call to action for listeners to explore further resources on imposter syndrome and leadership development. Montroy's insights serve as a valuable reminder that imposter feelings are a shared experience and that cultivating self-compassion and mindfulness can empower individuals to overcome these challenges and thrive in their leadership roles.

Duration:00:12:01

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#985 Zero Click World

3/31/2024
These days we're living in a zero click world. What that means is all of the social media platforms and even Google are trying to get you to stay on the platform. They're encouraging you to find the answers you need with them and they're discouraging people from clicking through to your website. Unless of course you're going to pay for an ad. So when you're not advertising. What do you do? How do you play in this zero click world. There's several things to keep in mind as you map your strategy in this zero click environment. The first is you need to adjust your expectations. In some ways, we are back to the early days of social media, where you evaluate your success based engagement and the interaction on the platform. You may not necessarily clicks through to your website. And with shifting privacy rules you may not be able to measure that even if you do. With these revised criteria you need to think about your content differently. Each piece of content is a stand-alone unit that tells a story from beginning to end. But it needs to do so, quickly because your audience has a short attention span. Put the punchline up front. Use compelling headlines, hook the audience in the first thee seconds of the video or the first image of a carousel. Get right to the point right away, entertain the audience to they stay with you and engage with everyone who interacts with the content. Ask questions, take polls and tell people if they want your special offer to simple leave a comment or dm you instead of clicking through to your website. If you've enjoyed this conversation follow me on LinkedIn. You'll see lots of marketing tips, videos and tools. Put a comment in the notes so I know you dropped

Duration:00:02:18

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#984 Build Authority with Authenticity

3/28/2024
I had so much fun chatting with Amy Singleton, about building authority with authentic content. Amy is the CEO and owner of Hite Digital Norman, an Inc. 5000 digital and branding agency. Amy's mission is to empower individuals to reconcile their personal and professional aspirations without compromise, and today, we're tapping into her expertise to explore how businesses can authentically engage with Google's algorithms to stand out in a world inundated with AI-generated content. Understanding Google's Desires As we kick off our conversation, Amy emphasizes the importance of understanding what Google truly wants. "Google wants things that are fast, relevant, and profitable," she explains. The search engine giant aims to provide users with quick, accurate answers to their queries, fostering repeat engagement and loyalty. Crafting Relevant Content So, how can businesses ensure their content resonates with Google's algorithms? Amy suggests several strategies, starting with optimizing Google business profiles and local listings. Consistency across these platforms builds credibility and trust, key factors in Google's ranking system. Additionally, Amy highlights the significance of backend structures, such as schema markup and metadata, in enhancing a website's visibility. By providing clear signals about the content's relevance, businesses can improve their chances of appearing in relevant search results. Answering the Right Questions Understanding user intent is crucial in crafting effective content. Amy illustrates this point with an anecdote about a successful blog post on her previous company's website. Despite its seemingly mundane topic—how much painters make per hour—the article addressed a common query among homeowners, driving significant traffic to the site. Embracing Authenticity In a landscape saturated with AI-generated content, authenticity emerges as a competitive advantage. While AI can offer valuable insights and inspiration, Amy emphasizes the importance of infusing content with a human touch. Whether through storytelling or personalization, businesses can create a unique connection with their audience. Building Authority To further assert relevance and authority, Amy recommends leveraging press releases and securing backlinks from reputable sources. These tactics not only enhance a website's credibility but also demonstrate its expertise within its niche. A Call to Action As our conversation draws to a close, Amy extends a generous offer to our audience: a complimentary website audit to identify areas of opportunity and improvement. This gesture exemplifies her commitment to supporting businesses on their digital journey. Conclusion These days, it is all about authenticity and relevance. When you understand Google's preferences and create content to match their strategy you can navigate the complexities of organic marketing with confidence. As Amy Singleton reminds us, success lies not in mimicking AI-generated content but in harnessing the power of human connection to engage and inspire.

Duration:00:10:53

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983 Build Your Brand with AI

3/26/2024
Laura Templeton dropped by for a conversation about using AI to build your brand. , an author and international speaker, discusses using AI to build your brand with Lorraine Ball. At first, the idea might sound a bit out there, but Laura dives into how AI, specifically ChatGPT, can be customized to reflect your brand's voice and values. Laura explains the concept of "custom instructions" in ChatGPT, where you can teach it about your brand, your audience, and your preferred tone. She likens it to teaching a child; it takes patience and guidance to get it right so the tone doesn't feel stiff or overly casual. With practice and clear feedback, ChatGPT can generate valuable content for various purposes, such as website copy, social media posts, blogs, and lead magnets. Laura stresses the importance of reviewing and editing the generated content to ensure it aligns with your brand's message and style. The conversation also touches on SEO concerns, with Laura reassuring that ChatGPT can be beneficial for SEO as it understands your brand's keywords and can incorporate them naturally into the content it generates. If you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to check out my other chat with Laura - BETTER NETWORKING RESULTS

Duration:00:10:42