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Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff Nonnenmacher, franchise consultant at Franocity, pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff Nonnenmacher, franchise consultant at Franocity, pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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Franchise Funding Secrets 2: Turn Your 401(k) Into a Business—Without Penalties or Taxes | Benetrends Explains ROBS Plus

10/8/2025
Episode 104: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Scott Thorell CFO of Benetrends and Kristen Gordon, senior consultant at Benetrends. If funding is holding you back from becoming a franchisee, then this podcast is for you. Scott and Kristen talk about the ROBS (Rollovers as Business Startups) and ROBS Plus - transforming your retirement into a business. Listen up... -------------- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:01 - What is Benetrends? 03:29 - What is ROBS? How does it work? 15:04 - What is the ROBS Plus? 21:01 - Why a C Corporation? 23:20 - Multiple classes of stock 32:23 - How is this a tax-free transaction? 37:35 - When you sell the business? 43:50 - Peter Thiel story 48:44 - Common questions ----- Links: ⁠Benetrends⁠ Innovative Financing booklet - email cliffn@franocity.com Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:59:33

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Franchise Funding Secrets: SBA Loans, ROBS & Smart Capital Strategies w/ Anthony Byrd | Pursuit of Profit”

10/1/2025
Episode 103: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Anthony Byrd, vice president of banking business development of Benetrends. If funding is holding you back from becoming a franchisee, then this is the podcast that will reveal a variety of funding options to secure funding for your entrepreneurial dream. Listen up... -------------- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:05 - Anthony's background 06:47 - SBA Loans 10:55 - Do I need a job? 13:00 - Do I need direct experience in the industry to get a loan? 14:55 - How much do I need for the down payment? 15:44 - FICO score 17:08 - Interest rates on SBA loans 18:30 - Term on SBA loan 25:55 - How is the SBA loan funded? 32:24 - What is ROBS? 43:20 - HELOCs 44:54 - Unsecured funds ----- Links: Benetrends Innovative Financing booklet - email cliffn@franocity.com Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:49:30

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From Aqua Effects At Concerts To Serving His Community with Pat Brown of Surv

9/24/2025
Episode 102: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Pat Brown, founder and CEO of Surv, a fast growing membership based services franchise that's tackling life's to-do list while creating real opportunity for entrepreneurs. Take a listen...----- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:25 - How Pat went from concert entertainment producer to knocking on doors offering home services 07:00 - How did Surv develop 10:20 - Membership model 12:10 - How to monetize 15:17 - Competition 18:16 - What services are outsourced 20:48 - Customer acquisition 27:35 - Member retention rate 30:31 - Avg. ticket price 34:40 - Item 19 ----- Links: ⁠SURV Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:41:30

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From Probation Officer to $2B Beauty Disruptor | Melanie Richards’ goGLOW Franchise Success

9/17/2025
Episode 101: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Melanie Richards, founder and CEO of goGLOW spray tan and airbrush. In 2010, Melanie launched goGLOW. It started as a side hustle while she worked in law enforcement. Today, the brand has over a hundred locations, sold over 20 operating locations. The financials are impressive - average gross sales of more than a half million dollars. So if you're looking for a lean recurring revenue business with strong margins and raving consumer fan base, you won't want to miss this episode. Let's dive in... ----- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:23 - Melanie's background in law enforcement to spray tan 09:34 - Products 15:53 - Safety of products 20:15 - What's in a goGLOW location 23:25 - Employees 25:15 - Services 28:47 - Membership model 30:40 - Numbers ----- Links: goGLOW Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:40:46

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Beyond the Sandwich: The Real Business Model of Chick-fil-A

9/10/2025
Episode 100: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff breaks down the beloved fast food restaurant, Chick-fil-A. It is the largest privately owned fast food restaurant in the U.S. Cliff explores why Chick-fil-A is a profitable franchise, but it comes with some warnings. He breaks down a sample $9M P & L (Profit & Loss statement) and tells you how much you would earn. It's very accurate. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:27 - How Chick-fil-A started 05:00 - How Chick-fil-a drives demand 07:30 - Revenue 10:00 - Branding / advertising strategy 14:20 - P&L reviews 18:11 - Chick-fil-A sauce story 18:37 - Facts about franchising a Chick-fil-A ----- Links: Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:26:22

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POP Pulse: Cracker Barrel’s $700M Mistake

9/4/2025
On this Pursuit of Profit (POP) Pulse, Cliff takes on Cracker Barrel and their decision to pour $700 million on a rebrand—but will new logos and chairs fix cold biscuits, shrinking portions, and frustrated staff? Cliff breaks down how corporate leaders miss the real customer complaints, why brands like Bud Light and Target paid the price for tone-deaf decisions, and what franchising gets right that corporate bloat never will. Take a listen... ----- Links: Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Beyond The Brand book by Cliff Nonnenmacher & Justin Guevara ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:08:03

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How AI Is Disrupting Vending and Creating a New Franchise Model with Jeff Marsh of SmartMarket Solutions

9/3/2025
Episode 99: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Jeff Marsh, founder of SmartMarket Solutions. Forget the days of dusty snack machines in break rooms. Jeff's building a modern tech enabled retail solution powered by AI vision. These are AI powered unattended micro retail units, offering fresh food drinks, and dry goods in high traffic locations. He's helping entrepreneurs launch flexible, scalable businesses with no employees, no franchise fees, no royalties, no long-term real estate commitments, and really no rules. You also get part-time freedom and full-time potential, and the best part you grow at your own pace and on your own terms. Take a listen! ----- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:15 - Vending vs. AI convenience store 09:26 - Technology 12:07 - Why franchise 17:08 - How do you make money (Item 19) 24:03 - Financing a business 26:37 - How does SmartMarket earn revenue 29:46 - How do the machine owners earn extra money 36:32 - Validation data ----- Links: SmartMarket Solutions Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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How to Grow a Lifestyle Brand into a Franchise Empire with Paul O'Brien of Floyd’s Barbershop

8/28/2025
Episode 98: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Paul O'Brien, one of three founding brothers of the well known franchise, Floyd's 99 Barbershop. This successful franchise has broken away from assembly line cuts of discount chains and high-end salons to create something in between - expert cuts and a vibe that feels more like a rock concert than a haircut. With over 150 stores nationwide and a nearly $1M in revenue from corporate stores, Floyd's is proving that when you focus on culture, retaining employees and consistency - the numbers take care of themselves. Take a listen! ----- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:22 - what were you aiming to create with Floyd's 03:40 - what do you do to maintain success of Floyd's 06:36 - what is your mix of clients 07:45 - alcohol not offered in barbershop 08:50 - number of corporate owned shops vs. franchised shops 10:00 - employee retention 11:05 - music 13:17 - where's the revenue 28:13 - cost and size to open a franchise 36:50 - Item 19 - the numbers 39:39 - Floyd's secret sauce ----- Links: Floyd's Barbershop Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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How Marc Goodin Built Storage Authority into a Self-Storage Franchise Empire

8/20/2025
Episode 97: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Marc Goodin, founder of Storage Authority. Marc is a civil engineer turned self-storage visionary after decades designing storage facilities for other people. Mark built his own and then built a franchise system around it and he's helping everyday investors tap into a 40, $50 billion industry once dominated by REITs and real estate giants. Storage Authority delivers Ritz Carlton like service and charges a premium for it. And the best part, the model doesn't just produce revenue, it attracts big financing. High margin performance and low industry failure rate. Banks are very comfortable with this model. Take a listen to find out why... ----- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:43 how Marc built Storage Authority 05:43 financing and revenue of a Storage Authority franchise 21:00 why Storage Authority is known as the "Ritz" of self-storage 24:24 what are the real estate numbers for a franchise 37:52 number of employees 40:18 distribution channel 44:10 the future of Storage Authority ----- Links: Storage Authority Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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Turning A Dirty Job into Big Profits with Daniel Sturgis of Scoop Brothers

8/13/2025
Episode 96: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Daniel Sturgis, founder of Scoop Brothers, an unlikely business scooping dog poop. Daniel has figured out a way to turn a very dirty job into a clean profit. In 2024 alone he brought in more than $400K in revenue. There are 89.5 million dogs in the US, each one poops at least twice a day, that's 65 billion piles a year - and someone has to pick them up. Daniel figured out operating leverage and underutilized labor capacity - as revenue climbs his costs barely budge. This is not just about dog poop, it's about recognizing overlooked markets. Building a system that scales. And turning a dirty job into a dream opportunity for a franchisee. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:30 Brown gold history 05:51 Monetize the brown gold 08:20 Services 12:46 Subscription membership 16:42 Technology 18:15 Marketing 19:57 Who's the customer 24:24 Numbers ----- Links: Scoop Brothers Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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Inside Sky Zone: How It Scaled Fun into a Multi-Million Dollar Franchise

8/6/2025
Episode 95: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Michael Mudd, CEO of BrandOne franchise development. Michael is helping to develop SkyZone trampoline park - a brand that is redefining what it means to play, celebrate and connect in real life. With over 300 global locations and more that 40 million guest visits per year (more than the NBA and the NFL combined), SkyZone isn't just in the entertainment business - it's in the community business. The numbers speak for themselves - according to the latest item 19 earnings claim, SkyZone's corporate locations averaged over $3.8 million in revenue, while franchisee locations generated over $836K in EBDA. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 05:55 BrandONE & SkyZone 09:52 Who's buying SkyZone 14:45 History of SkyZone 16:45 Revenue sources 22:06 Average ticket 32:20 Item 19 41:13 Personal liability / Master Insurance program ----- Links: SkyZone BrandONE Franchise development Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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From Van Life to Franchise Empire: Pat Clark’s $100M Vision for Bright Brothers

7/30/2025
Episode 94: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Pat Clark co-founder of Bright Brothers - home services, such as soft washing, pressure washing and holiday lights. Bright Brothers built for scale, backed by serious systems, operational support, marketing support, and a national call center. All the services are wrapped up into a repeatable, scalable franchise system with multiple revenue streams. If you're curious about what it takes to dominate in a fragmented $12 billion industry, this episode's for you... take a listen. ----- Timestamps: 02:06 - what is Bright Brothers 03;24 - what is soft washing 06:13 - how he partnered with Contractor Nation 10:06 - what is Sales Boost 12:37 - franchising 17:28 - revenue making services 26:46 - how Contractor Nation make the partnership work with Bright Brothers 30:57 - staffing 36:18 - numbers ----- Links: ⁠⁠Bright Brothers Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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How One Frustrated Attorney Built a $500M Home Services Empire | Jess Love of HomeSmiles

7/23/2025
Episode 93: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Jess Love, founder of HomeSmiles. At HomeSmiles, Jess is taking on one of the most overlooked, yet essential, markets in America - property management. As a real estate attorney and investor, Jess was tired of juggling multiple vendors, invoices and timelines just to maintain his many properties. So he created the solution - a one click bundled service model that handles 18 essential home and property maintenance tasks in under two hours. If you've ever wondered what it takes to create a category defining brand in an unsexy but essential industry, or how to turn a personal pain point into a national franchise success story, this conversation is absolutely for you. ----- Timestamps: 02:37 - Origination of HomeSmiles 09:54 - Cheaper than hiring services separately 17:00 - Subscription service 21:31 - Services offered 26:57 - Revenue 34:02 - Cost of average ticket 36:50 - The numbers 40:05 - Number of locations 41:00 - Labor model ----- Links: ⁠HomeSmiles Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

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How Ron Holt Built Pink Zebra to Disrupt a $23B Industry - He Made Moving Fun

7/16/2025
Episode 92: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Ron Holt, founder and CEO of Pink Zebra Moving. Ron is a serial disruptor in the franchise space - he built Two Maids and A Mop from the ground up growing to more than 100 locations nationwide and subsequently exiting the brand. Ron set his sights on a new challenge - the $20 billion moving industry. The moving industry is plagued with low customer satisfaction, inconsistent services and outdated practices. Ron's answer to all of this is Pink Zebra Moving - a franchise that is flipping the moving industry on its head by rolling out pink carpet on the steps of your house, to blasting music in your house on moving day, to buying you dinner and even a mascot. This is a brand/customer experience. Take a listen to how he did it... ----- Timestamps: 02:25 - How Ron came up with the name, Pink Zebra Moving 04:20 - History of Two Maids & A Mop & Pink Zebra Moving 07:24 - Growth numbers of Pink Zebra Moving 10:05 - Who are Pink Zebra customers and their territories 13:22 - How Pink Zebra Moving is different 17:25 - Pink Zebra magic 28:26 -Seasonal work 39:50 - Total investment 37:02 - Numbers ----- Links: Pink Zebra Moving Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:45:52

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How She Turned Home Staging Into a Successful Scalable Furniture Franchise | Courtney Clark of Set the Stage

7/9/2025
Episode 91: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Courtney Clark, founder of Set the Stage - a home staging company. What started in 2016 with a simple vision has grown into a national brand with over 50 locations sold, and honestly, they're just getting started. Here's the twist... Set the Stage isn't just a home staging business. Over 50% of their revenue comes from furniture sales, turning every staged home into a retail showroom. It's a very clever, high margin, multi-revenue stream model serving home sellers, real estate agents, investors, and property managers. If you've ever wondered how to turn interior design into a scalable business, or how to dominate a $6 billion industry riding the real estate wave, this conversation is for you. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 02:08 - How Set the Stage started 05:31 - Number of locations & franchises 11:36 - No interior design skills 13:52 - Revenue streams 20:16 - New vs. used furniture 27:20 - New markets 33:40 - Money to invest 36:00 - Tech to help staging 38:15 - Startup costs 42:27 - Staffing model 47:48 - Looking ahead ----- Links: Set the Stage Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:51:05

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Turning Driving Schools Into a National Franchise | Zach Beutler of Jungle Driving School

7/2/2025
Episode 90: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Zach Beutler, CEO of Jungle Driving School - the first of its kind student driver franchise in a fragmented, outdated industry. This is a $1.7 billion market cap. And a compounded annual growth rate nearing 15%. We'll unpack how jungle driving is modernizing driving education. Their standout item 19 averaging $600K a year in revenue with a 20% net margin. Zach's also a huge advocate for the entrepreneurial operating system and we'll talk about how traction plays a central role in their franchisee success. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 02:13 - How Zach got into Jungle Driving School 04:31 - How Jungle Driving School started 10:05 - Where/how do you acquire customers\ 13:56 - Where is revenue coming from 16:30 - Competition from autonomous driving 18:35 - What do clients want - students want - parents want 20:28 - What is the initial investment 21:58 - What's the time commitment 24:18 - Item 19 29:26 - Why there's not a national franchise in this space 33:39 - How to help the franchisees succeed 38:16 - Laddered royalty program ----- Links: Jungle Driving School Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:42:20

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The $31 Billion Franchise Model You’ve Never Heard Of | Andy Fuller’s 3-in-1 Home Services Strategy

6/25/2025
Episode 89: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Andy Fuller, founder and CEO of Mosquito Hunters. Andy is launching a bold new franchise model that bundles mosquito control, pest control, and holiday lighting into one scalable, recession-resistant home services business. Take a listen to how he pulled off this lucrative franchise tri-fecta. 💬 Drop a comment: Which home service would YOU add to a franchise? ----- Timestamps: 02:20 - Why Andy is back on Pursuit of Profit one year later 05:45 - How did the 3-in-1 services change your business operation 12:10 - The market share of mosquito control, pest control and holiday lighting 20:48 - Licensure 24:34 - Material cost of lighting business alone 27:33 - Who is the customer 33:40 - How the acquire customers 36:00 - Item 19 38:1 0 - Hunters-palooza announcement ----- Links: ⁠Mosquito Hunters Pest Hunters Humbug Holiday Lighting Andy Fuller's Pursuit of Profit interview June 2024 Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:43:27

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The Fall of Dickey’s BBQ: A Franchising Disaster You Need to Avoid

6/18/2025
Episode 88: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff dives into the failing of one of the largest barbecue franchise restaurants in the U.S., Dickey's BBQ. Founded in 1941 by Travis Dickey in Dallas, TX. His children have taken over the brand and took it to a peak of around 570 units, only for it to become clouded by lawsuits, FTC complaints, franchisee bankruptcies, and a severely damaged reputation. On this episode, we're going to break down Dickey's mistakes. We'll also discuss mistakes made by investors and franchisees and how to avoid them going forward. Dickie's is walking the same path Quiznos paved - fast growth, low franchisee profitability, and a franchisor more focused on collecting fees than building sustainable partnerships. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 01:57 - Over expansion 04:12 - Misrepresentation of start-up costs 08:02 - Franchisee validation 14:18 - Adversarial legal tactics 15:00 - Grieve 15:34 - Evolve or die 16:32 - Poor franchisee selection ----- Links: Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:19:28

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Why 80% of Businesses Don’t Sell—and How to Exit Yours Profitably | Jessica Fialkovich of Exit Factor

6/11/2025
Episode 87: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Jessica Fialkovich, founder and President of Exit Factor - a business helping business owners under $25 million boost profitability, increase valuations, and create a successful exit. Take a listen... 💬 Drop a comment: Are you building your business to sell—or just to survive? ----- Timestamps: 02:15 - Jessica's journey 13:00 - How Exit Factor was built 17:00 - How to build a business and orchestrate an exit 28:15 - What business ownership looks like 30:37 - Success rate 31:22 - Why businesses aren't selling 39:53 - Revenue streams 43:15 - Who are your franchisees 45:00 - Investment for franchisees 50:29 - How do you make evaluations ----- Links: Exit Factor Jessica Fialkovich Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:56:23

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Changing Lives In the $4B Market You’ve Never Considered| Edward Kaufman of Orthotic & Prosthetic Clinics of America

6/4/2025
Episode 86: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Edward Kaufman, CEO of Orthotic & Prosthetic Clinics of America, a legacy medical brand with roots tracing all the way back to 1923. We'll talk about the staggering need in this space. Just in amputations alone in the US, over 60% of them are diabetes related. Edward is on a mission to scale nationally through franchising. Their services range from orthotics and prosthetics, cranial remolding, pedorthic support, silicon restoration, and myoelectric technology. This is a powerful conversation. It's about growth, innovation, and restoring a patient's independence. Take a listen... ----- Timestamps: 02:27 - Edward's background 05:06 - Can anyone own this type of franchise? 07:45 - Real estate 10:16 - Services offered 14:55 - Staffing 18:13 - Adapting to changes in the industry 20:23 - Lines of revenue 27:17 - Investment 29:00 - Who are the franchisees? ----- Links: ⁠Orthotic & Prosthetic Clinics of America Watch the Pursuit of Profit on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Connect with Cliff and Justin: 🌐 Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://franocity.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👍 Facebook - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cliffnonnenmacher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 LinkedIn - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠justinguevara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ * Consult with Cliff and Justin @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franocity⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Duration:00:37:06