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RESTalk, produced by is the best way to stay up-to-date on everything going on in the world of Home Energy Ratings (HERS), including initiatives, standards, marketing, and more. Hosted by building performance veteran Bill Spohn, the show features interviews with the RESNET team and prominent guests from throughout the rating and home building industries, discussing a wide range of topics, current events and new technologies.

RESTalk, produced by is the best way to stay up-to-date on everything going on in the world of Home Energy Ratings (HERS), including initiatives, standards, marketing, and more. Hosted by building performance veteran Bill Spohn, the show features interviews with the RESNET team and prominent guests from throughout the rating and home building industries, discussing a wide range of topics, current events and new technologies.


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RESTalk, produced by is the best way to stay up-to-date on everything going on in the world of Home Energy Ratings (HERS), including initiatives, standards, marketing, and more. Hosted by building performance veteran Bill Spohn, the show features interviews with the RESNET team and prominent guests from throughout the rating and home building industries, discussing a wide range of topics, current events and new technologies.








EP66 A Conversation with 2021 RESNET Board President, John Hensley

“Life is the art of drawing without an eraser.” -John W. Gardner Each year a new President of the RESNET board of directors takes the helm. A President brings their own background and experiences to bear upon the role. How do decades of experience in building, while documenting millions in construction defects, lead someone to take on a leadership role such as this? John Hensley shares with us the priorities as the 2021 Board President for RESNET. He first takes us on a...


EP65 What is in store for Home Performance: 2020 Election Review with Carl Chidlow & Steve Baden

“Leadership is not about the next election, it’s about the next generation” -Simon Sinek 2020 was both a notable and challenging year in so many ways. Beyond everyone learning how to Zoom (and Zoom becoming a verb) the election of 2020 is sure to go down in history. What impact did the 2020 election have on RESNET's future-oriented mission to make the energy use for all homes transparent? (THIS EPISODE WAS RECORDED IN MID-DECEMBER 2020) In today’s podcast we are joined by...


EP64 Learn about the RESNET 2021 Conference. A New Path To the Future with Steve Baden & Emma Bennett

“Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that’s creativity. -Charles Mingus How in the world can you deliver an engaging conference in these pandemic times? What kind of steps and measures must you take to make it awesomely simple and fun for attendees and exhibitors? This kind of challenge requires creativity. In todays’ podcast we are joined by Emma Bennett and Steve Baden to learn about the creative and exciting...


EP63 State of RESNET QA with Laurel Elam, Scott Doyle and Billy Giblin

“They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself.” -Andy Warhol Like so many businesses, activities, and organizations, 2020 has been a year of unprecedented adaptation. In which ways have RESNET Quality Assurance (QA) procedures been adapted and changed this year? What new techniques, methods, and procedures are being used to maintain the QA function? We welcome back RESNET’s QA Team - Laurel Elam, Billy Giblin, and Scott Doyle for an...


EP62: Using HERS H2O to achieve the WaterSense Label for homes with Jonah Schein & Ryan Meres

“If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water.” -Loren Eiseley Wikipedia defines water as is an inorganic, transparent, tasteless, odorless, and nearly colorless chemical substance which provides no calories or organic nutrients. Yet water is vital for all known forms of life. What role can builders, raters and providers play in the protection of this unique natural resource? Seasoned water efficiency professional Jonah Schein from the US EPA joins Ryan Meres,...


EP61: Why big builders will request more HERS ratings with Ryan Meres

“Data is the most valuable asset in the world.” -Brittany Kaiser What does the builder market data tell us about trends in the adoption of HERS ratings? What is the breakdown of companies that are recording ratings? What role do the larger builders play in all of this? We welcome back Ryan Meres, Program Director at RESNET to share with us some insights into why RESNET believes bigger builders will be requesting more HERS ratings in the future. With nearly 240,000 HERS ratings...


EP60: Resilience, sustainability and high-performance homes with Ryan Colker of ICC

“Resilience is all about being able to overcome the unexpected. Sustainability is about survival. The goal of resilience is to thrive.” -Jamias Cascio Governments are struggling to prepare for hazards and other disaster events they face, Communities cannot sustain in a chronic response mode. What goes into making a community event disastrous? What planning tools or programs can be used to mitigate the impact? How do building codes and other mitigating strategies allow them to...


EP59: Essential Market Trends to Grow your Business with Sara Gutterman, Green Builder Media

“I think things happen for a reason.” -Dave Davies Changes in consumer buying patterns and preferences are a constant topic in every market, especially housing. How are the consumer sentiments changing due to disruptive technologies, yet alone the changes brought about in in a world dealing with a pandemic? What are some of the new areas that building professionals and manufacturers need to learn about and act on? Today’s guest, Sara Gutterman, has some perspectives to share...


EP-BONUS COVID -19 Update with Steve Baden and Cardice Gray-Howard

“We’re all working together; that’s the secret.” -Sam Walton COVID-19 continues to impact nearly every area of life these days. What is RESNET is doing to manage the situation? In summary it involves three things: Staying patient. Being open to ideas. Maintaining the dialog. Today we are joined by RESNET leadership: Cardice Gray-Howard, deputy director and Steve Baden, Executive Director, for a quick update on the impact of COVID-19 on RESNET activities. Hear what...


EP58: The U.S. Housing Market Through the Looking Glass with Clayton Traylor, LBA

“To be a carpenter or a builder or a home inspector, you have to have that kind of visual brain where you can sort of imagine something being taken apart.” -Nick Petrie Even before the impact of the pandemic, the housing market was in a challenging time. The home building industry is certainly complicated in the physical world with all the components, materials and contractors that need to come together. What additional complexities have arisen in the last 6 months? What do...


EP57: 45L - The Federal Tax Credit for Builders: An Update with Carl Chidlow & Steve Baden

“You do the best you can with what’s thrown at you, then you try again.” -Mario Andretti What does the Highway Bill, or HR 2 have to do with builders and raters? What has happened to the “builders tax credit” over the course of the last few months and what is store as we head towards and through the upcoming presidential election? Better known as 45L, Section 45L(c)(1)(A) and (B) of the US Internal Revenue Code (developed by David Goldstein of the NRDC), offers a $2,000...


EP56: RESNET 2021: A Virtual Conference

“You change your business plan to anticipate and adapt to changes in the marketplace.” -Jon Feltheimer It seems like everyone is talking about change lately spurred in a large part by the global pandemic. Rolling with the changes, staying on mission, continuing to work towards your vision are no mean feats. How is the team at RESNET adapting the annual conference to deliver the high-quality educational content and social interactions while looking out for the health and safety...


EP55 A Roadmap to Creating New Business Opportunities for HERS® Raters with John Gillett

“Difficulties mastered are opportunities won.” -Winston Churchill Disruptive trends exist in every segment of commerce. Residential construction is no exception. Between changing customer needs and demands, new materials, changing codes, changes in the workforce, and an increased demand for sustainability, all the pieces of the machine are in motion. Stepping back from the complexity and seeing patterns in the chaos is trait of many successful small businesses. What patterns and...


EP54 Meet the Chairs of the RESNET Standards Development Committees

“Make no mistake about it: Change is hard, but change is necessary.” -Lori Lightfoot As organizations grow, systems, policies and procedures develop. Grasping the complexities of an organization can become daunting. Especially if you are new or “at the edges of contact” with the organization. It may be easy to feel disconnected. Organizations like RESNET offer the ability to be part of the conversation, insisting that you have the right to speak up and offer the ability for you to...


EP53 The HERS Rater’s role in Energy Code Compliance with Chris McTaggart (The BER) and Ryan Meres (RESNET)

“How come it’s given you the code? Someone up there likes me.” -Cathica and The Doctor from Doctor Who (S01E07) What does the future world of residential construction look like? What do opportunities lie for HERS raters in a code world? Yes, podcast listener someone likes you and will share the code. Chris McTaggart (The BER) and Ryan Meres (RESNET) join us on the podcast to detail out the HERS Rater’s role in Energy Code compliance. The International Code Council now...


EP52 Data Trends in HERS Rated Homes- RESNET’s 2019 report With Ryan Meres (RESNET)

“Go out and collect data and, instead of having the answer, just look at the data and see if the data tells you anything.” -Steven Levitt With over 20% of all new homes being built in the US receiving a HERS rating, this repository of data can allow important trends in residential construction can be discerned. What does this data speak to in terms of the types of homes and types of buyers? Ryan Meres joins us on today’s podcast to walk us through what the data in the new...


EP51 Emergency Virtual Inspection and Alternative Testing Protocols With Scott Doyle (RESNET)

“Difficult times disrupt your conventional ways of thinking and push you to forge better habits of thought, performance and being.” -Robin S. Sharma In this time when the novel Coronavirus has impacted so many aspects of our daily lives in both personal and business aspects we often hear of the “new normal”. In the case of home energy ratings, where the object of the work is a home in the field, often with others from the trades present, the “new normal” has to be carefully...


EP50 Introducing the RESNET Water Efficiency Rating System HERSH2O with Mark Johnson (ICC) and Jacob Atalla (KB Home)

“If you can't measure it, you can't improve it.” -Peter Drucker Over the last decade, what Americans pay for water and sewer service has increased three times faster than inflation or the price of food. How can builders and homeowners get a handle the amount of water being used without some kind of practical and usable metric for both new and existing homes? Join us as we plunge into the depths of HERSH20, RESNET’s new water efficiency rating system. Both of our guests...


EP49 New applications for HERS skills- Isolation Room Monitoring with Matthew Cooper of PEG

Human beings are very good at adapting to what happens -John Hurt Building science is building science. Science doesn’t care. It just is. Applications for a HERS Rater’s knowledge of building science are out there. Sometimes where you’d least expect them. Recorded in April 2020, today’s topic is tuned in to the current pandemic, perhaps, in an unexpected way. Join us as we speak with Matthew Cooper, Senior Vice President at PEG, LLC about how his company is supporting the...


EP48 The Impact of Recent Energy Code Changes on HERS® Raters and Builders with Ryan Meres

Changes and progress are very rarely gifts from above. They come out of struggles from below. -Noam Chomsky The code development process is complex and time consuming. Yet the results drive much of the work done by raters. Insights into this process from a knowledgeable guide are immensely valuable. Join us as we speak with Ryan Meres, Program Director at RESNET, about the changes coming in the 2021 edition of the International Energy Conservation Code (IECC). He reviews for us...