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On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.

On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.


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On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.




Erin Lawler | How “Client Listening” Leads to Increased Revenue and Client Loyalty

Erin Lawler is the Head of M&BD, Americas at Hogan Lovells, an international law firm that operates at the intersection of business and government. She has over 20 years of experience in Am Law 100 firms, and this is her third leadership role at Hogan Lovells. Erin has established “best in class” client programs and increased collaboration in her previous role as the Global Head of M&BD Operations and Business Management. Prior to Hogan Lovells, Erin worked in Business Development for...


Stacey Brown Randall | How to Generate Referrals Without Asking

Stacey Brown Randall is the Founder of the Brown Randall Group, where she helps business owners generate referrals without asking. As a self-proclaimed Referral Ninja Master, Stacey brings her decades of experience in talent management, marketing, and strategy to teach clients her 5-step formula for gaining referrals in a way that honors and fosters relationships. Before starting her company, Stacey was an Adjunct Professor at Queens University of Charlotte and Chief Talent Officer at HF...


Chelsea Bonini | A Corporate Lawyer’s Passionate Advocacy for Disability Inclusion

Chelsea Bonini is the Chief Legal Officer for the Conscious Inclusion Company, a woman-owned, minority-operated business dedicated to helping organizations do well from a business perspective while encouraging equality in the workplace. Chelsea founded her law firm, Kiski Law, in 2010 and serves as the CEO. She is also the Chief Legal Officer at Freeman Means Business. Chelsea was recently elected to the San Mateo County Board of Education in California and serves on the county's Commission...


Smart Collaboration | How Law Firms Can Increase Revenues, Grow Client Loyalty, and Improve Diversity

Dr. Heidi Gardner is the Co-founder of Gardner & Co, a research and advisory firm that helps clients across professional services, industry, government, and nonprofit drive change through smarter collaboration. In addition to this, Dr. Gardner is a Distinguished Fellow at Harvard Law School and a Faculty Chair of the school’s Accelerated Leadership Program and Sector Leadership Masterclass. She was previously a professor of Organizational Behavior and the Assistant Professor of Business...


The Women's Advocate | How to Stand Up for Yourself at Work

Sarah Nichols is the Founder and Managing Attorney at Nichols Law, P.C. Sarah has over 20 years of experience in HR and employment law and provides effective legal representation to employers and employees alike. Before founding her own firm, Sarah worked at Ogletree Deakins as an Employment Attorney. Sarah has held many positions in the legal field at firms such as Littler Mendelson P.C., Fisher & Phillips, LLP, and Morrison & Foerster LLP. She has also worked as a Lecturer of Law at UC...


Vishal Agnihotri | Information Overload: How Law Firms of Every Size Can Wade Through an Ocean of Data

Vishal Agnihotri is the Chief Knowledge Officer at Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP, a national law firm with over 400 lawyers. Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP delivers a sophisticated legal practice with emphasis in litigation, consumer financial services, environmental law, and much more. As the CKO, Vishal oversees the firm’s knowledge management, legal product management, and research services. Before joining Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP, Vishal held a variety of executive leadership positions, including...


Mary Abbajay | Managing Up: How to Succeed with Any Type of Boss

Mary Abbajay is the President of Careerstone Group, LLC, a full-service organizational and leadership development consultancy that delivers leading-edge talent development solutions to business and government. Mary has over 20 years of leadership experience and is a frequent contributor to print, radio, and television publications such as Forbes, The New York Times, and the BBC. In addition to this, Mary currently serves on the Greater Washington Market President’s Board of BB&T Bank and is...


Kate Mortensen | Taking Action Today: A Chief Legal Officer Finds Her Path While Trekking Through South America

Kate Mortensen is the Chief Legal Officer at Xact Data Discovery (XDD), a leading international provider of eDiscovery, data management, and managed review services for law firms and corporations. In this role, Kate is responsible for leading corporate strategic and tactical legal initiatives, managing outside counsel, and offering support across all business units. Kate is also the Assistant Director for the Phoenix chapter of Women in eDiscovery, a nonprofit organization that facilitates...


Michael Swanson | Law Firm Finance 101: Essential, Practical Tips for Stability and Success

Michael Swanson is the Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors at Advocate Capital, Inc., a litigation finance firm that provides funding to law firms, lawyers, and plaintiffs for legal disputes. Michael’s daily role covers a wide variety of responsibilities, including client relations, strategic planning, marketing, and public relations. Before joining Advocate Capital, Inc., Michael was the President of Wellgen Standard LLC, a private equity firm, and the Vice...


Shawn Swearingen | Elevating Innovation: The People and Processes Driving Success for Modern Law Firms

Shawn Swearingen is the Chief Innovation Officer at Faegre Drinker Biddle & Reath LLP, a top 50 law firm with locations across the US, the UK, and China. In this role, Shawn collaborates with the executive and operations leadership teams to create a culture of innovation and design. Shawn has an ITIL Foundation Certification and a white belt in Legal Lean Sigma, and in 2011 she was awarded the Minnesota Lawyer Unsung Legal Hero award. Shawn previously held the position of Senior Director of...


Kelly Purcaro | The Evolution of a Rainmaker: From Community College Student to Passionate Advocate for Justice

Kelly Purcaro is a practicing attorney and Partner at A.Y. Strauss, a law firm based in New York and New Jersey. She is Co-chair of the Litigation Group, specializing in complex and commercial litigation across the United States, as well as the Chair of the Class Action practice group. Kelly has over a decade of experience as a skilled trial lawyer and dynamic litigator, representing both individual and institutional clients on matters including consumer fraud, breach of contract, commercial...


Uri Gutfreund | An Insider's View: What's Really Top-of-Mind for Managing Partners

Uri Gutfreund is the Founder and Moderator of The Managing Partner RoundTable™, a proactive forum where law firm leaders can share their best practices and seek advice from their peers. This unique program has quickly become a leading venue for thought leaders in the legal industry and is the largest regional peer-to-peer professional development group. Uri is a frequent speaker at legal industry conferences and Bar Association events and writes on law firm leadership, business practices,...


John Mitchell | Building Resilience: How Leaders Can Thrive in the Face of Adversity

John Mitchell is a lawyer, leader, and the Owner of KM Advisors and Quandary Consulting. John is also a Member of the Core Faculty for the Fellows Program at the Leadership Council on Legal Diversity and an Advisory Board Member and Co-Creator of the CBA Leadership Institute for the Chicago Bar Association. Known as “The Purple Coach,” John specializes in helping lawyers and unsung leaders discover and maximize their leadership potential to continuously develop themselves in pursuit of...


Mark Goldstein | A Mental Health Breakdown in BigLaw: How One Lawyer Survived and Now Helps Others Thrive

Mark Goldstein is a Partner at Reed Smith’s New York Labor & Employment Group, where he helps companies in New York and around the world manage their workplace needs. Mark defends employers in a wide range of employment litigation matters and advises clients on a variety of day-to-day and big-picture workplace issues, including policy development, risk assessment, and litigation avoidance. Mark is also a passionate mental health and wellness advocate, particularly in the legal profession....


Jeffrey Stern | Lateral Success: The Importance of Due Diligence and Relationship Building

Jeffrey Stern is the Co-Chair of Structured Finance Practice at Winston & Strawn LLP, an international law firm with over 900 attorneys in financial hubs around the world. Jeffrey has more than 25 years of experience in structured finance and derivatives, focusing on bespoke transactions and esoteric assets. Jeffrey is a regular writer and speaker on topics related to structured finance and previously served as the Chair of the Structured Finance Committee of the New York City Bar...


Jennifer Rosa | Navigating Cancer and Finding Balance in BigLaw

Jennifer Rosa is a Partner in the New York office of Mayer Brown’s Litigation & Dispute Resolution Practice. Her practice focuses primarily on the banking and financial services sector where she represents financial institutions in complex commercial and securities litigation in federal and state courts. Jennifer’s experience also includes representing clients in government agency proceedings and internal investigations. Jennifer is an active participant in Mayer Brown’s Women’s Forum,...


Lori Marks-Esterman | Ask and You Shall Receive: A Proactive Approach to Leadership

Lori Marks-Esterman is a commercial litigator and the Chair of the Litigation Practice Group at Olshan Frome Wolosky LLP. Lori has more than 20 years of expertise in litigating complex commercial disputes and has substantial trial experience in New York’s commercial divisions and the Delaware Chancery Court. She represents a wide range of clients, including hedge funds and private equity companies, shareholder activists, and real estate developers. Her practice emphasizes corporate...


Andrea Markstrom | The Changing Role of a Law Firm CIO – It’s “Not Just About the Gadgets”

Andrea Markstrom is the CIO at Taft Stettinius & Hollister LLP, a law firm with over 600 attorneys located in the Midwest. As CIO, Andrea is responsible for leading firm-wide technology and security initiatives across all tax practices and geographies. She has more than 25 years of technology leadership experience, including 15 years in the legal industry. Before entering the legal space, Andrea spent 13 years leading technology departments for the Target Corporation. A recognized leader in...


Ben Lieber | Building a Virtual Law Firm a Decade Before the Pandemic: Insights on Navigating the “New Normal”

Ben Lieber is the Founder and Managing Partner of Potomac Law Group, an all-remote national law firm with an innovative approach to law firm management and technology. Ben has wide-ranging experience in both business and law, having practiced as a Strategy Consultant at McKinsey & Company, a Tax Attorney at Covington & Burling, and General Counsel of several private companies before founding Potomac Law Group in 2011. Ben received his bachelor’s degree in Engineering from Cornell University...


Anushree Bagrodia | Being Intentional About Career Development, from India to the UK to the USA

Anushree Bagrodia is a Vice President for Mastercard and the Lead Lawyer for Mastercard’s Legal Transformation department. She leads a global cross-functional team to identify and implement contract processes, technology, system efficiency, and transformation. Anushree has held several roles for Mastercard between New York and London and has also worked in mergers and acquisitions and commercial transactions at Sidley Austin’s London office. In addition to her work as Vice President,...