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The Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature uncovers new ways single-family property managers can create and monetize value for their company while transforming relationships with their investors, residents, and teams. Episodes feature industry professionals, global thought leaders, and the inspiring conversations that move the industry forward. Now you can join thousands of property management leaders who are tuning in and talking about leveling up together.

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The Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature uncovers new ways single-family property managers can create and monetize value for their company while transforming relationships with their investors, residents, and teams. Episodes feature industry professionals, global thought leaders, and the inspiring conversations that move the industry forward. Now you can join thousands of property management leaders who are tuning in and talking about leveling up together.

Language:

English

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919-656-1406


Episodes
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Collaboration as a Competitive Advantage in Property Management

9/24/2025
In this episode of the Triple Win Podcast, Peter Lohmann joins to talk Zillow, AI, reducing churn, and why having a community can elevate your property management business.

Duration:00:47:57

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Thinking Like a Chief Experience Officer

9/10/2025
In this episode, Andrew Smallwood is joined by Reece Register, CXO and Fo-Founder at CXO Worx. Reece and Andrew talk through what it means to think like a Chief Experience Officer, leading with the resident experience and building processes that support that, rather than focusing on processes first. With great insights from his time as a property manager himself, and working with property management clients, Reece brings a unique perspective.

Duration:00:41:47

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SEO Isn't Dead, with ClearLead Digital

8/27/2025
In this episode, Alex Zweydoff and Lacy Hendricks, co-founders of ClearLead Digital and seasoned PM experts, talk property management SEO in the modern industry. From tips on optimizing websites to working with marketing agencies, they cover all you need to know about the fast-changing SEO landscape.

Duration:00:48:00

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5-Star Properties Attract 5-Star Residents

8/13/2025
In this episode, Kandise Varvil, Co-Founder of PM PathBuilders, talks about building a process than can make any property feel like a 5-star property, and why that's essential to attracting high quality residents. From expectation setting to communications, getting your company, your owners, and your residents on the same page pays dividends.

Duration:00:36:38

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Systemizing the Expected and Humanizing the Exceptions

6/11/2025
In this episode, Jennifer Ruelens, broker/owner at One Focus Property Management and founder of Hold It with PM Jen, talks about how she picks and prepares the right real estate investors to fit into her machine. She delves into the importance of standardizing processes, but still making room to accommodate edge cases and make them successful with her company.

Duration:00:45:29

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Why Courage is Key for Property Managers

5/7/2025
In this episode, Tony Cline, Chief Success Officer at ONYX, talks through the difference between bravery and courage, why courage is so essential for property managers in today’s fast-changing environment, and how you can build courage as a leader while getting your team onboard with change. Whether you’re just getting your company off the ground or managing hundreds of doors, this episode contains plenty of insights for you.

Duration:00:43:37

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The Three Ts: Team, Touchpoints, and Technology

4/9/2025
In this episode of the Triple Win Podcast, JWB Property Management’s Melissa Gillispie talks through the growth she’s seen within the company, and how she’s steered the ship. From hiring the right people, to implementing processes with the right internal and external touchpoints, to selecting and onboarding technology, Melissa provides key insights into how a true leader can grow a property management company effectively.

Duration:00:41:40

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Minimizing Churn by Getting Strategic with Clients

3/5/2025
In this episode, Co-Founder and CEO of Blanket Lior Abramovich talks minimizing churn. Learn how you can get deep in the data, get to know your clients, and use that as a way to deliver top-tier service. Move from property manager to strategic adviser to become indispensable to your investors.

Duration:00:00:09

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Radical Ownership and Extreme Authenticity

2/26/2025
In this episode, Mark Brower, Broker/Owner at Mark Brower Properties, talks through taking an approach of extreme ownership over his business. From radical honesty to all-in authenticity, embracing your expertise, your mistakes, and your responsibilities can create a brand built on trustworthiness.

Duration:00:46:43

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Setting Good Experiences as your Default Position

2/19/2025
In this episode, Tony Cline, Chief Success Officer at PM Success, talks about the importance of setting expectations, default positions, and top-tier experiences. Whether you’re balancing processes with empathy or finding the right members for your team, the service and experience you deliver is key to building a successful brand. Listen to hear Tony’s insights and expertise.

Duration:00:39:25

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The Impact of Convenience Culture

2/12/2025
We live in a culture of convenience. When people can get lunch delivered in an hour, your groceries delivered this afternoon, and almost anything you could possibly want delivered within two days, they start to expect the same level of service everywhere. On this episode of the podcast, Dana Dunford, CEO of Hemlane, explains how residents are coming to expect more and more from their property managers, and how you can evolve your company to meet—and exceed—those expectations. Ready to talk to an RBP expert? https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Have questions? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Network with professional property managers in our private group https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Visit our events page https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode!

Duration:00:40:12

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Investor Mindset with Justin Anderson

1/9/2025
Do you approach property management with an investor mindset? In this episode, Andrew Smallwood is joined by RentSmart CEO Justin Anderson to discuss what an investor mindset means, and how it can help you create a Triple Win with investors and residents. Justin lends his expertise in single- and multi-family rentals and leans on his experience as an investor and property manager. Listen now to learn about his unique approach to resident onboarding and how it saves countless hours for his team further down the road.

Duration:00:46:53

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From Reactive to Proactive Property Management with Deb Newell

11/14/2024
Are you just managing properties, or are you managing assets? The difference might be bigger than you think. In this episode, Andrew Smallwood is joined by industry consultant Deb Newell to tackle the complex differences between asset management and property management. Deb shares her expertise on shifting from reactive to proactive approaches, adjusting management agreements, and aligning teams to create scalable processes that benefit both property owners and residents. Tune in to hear practical advice on fostering better relationships with owners, the importance of clear expectations, and why benchmarking your business against itself, rather than others, is crucial for growth.

Duration:00:36:11

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Finding The Tech Stack Sweet Spot

10/25/2024
You'd be surprised by how many companies inefficiently employ tech. Kelli Segretto, property management veteran and founder of K Segretto Consulting, has helped many PMCs optimize their tech stacks. She joins Andrew Smallwood to cover the intricacies of a well-managed and optimized tech stack. Don't miss her secrets to finding the tech stack sweet spot. Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://www.facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Season 4 Episode 20 features Kelli Segretto The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:34:06

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JWB’s Success with Long-Term Leases

10/10/2024
JWB Real Estate has used long-term leases to minimize vacancy for its investors. Melissa Gillispie joins the show to speak on the strategy behind it, why it’s worked for them, and how property managers can approach a shift toward longer lease terms. Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Attending NARPM National? Claim your free VIP experience https://www.secondnature.com/events/narpm-annual-vip Season 4 Episode 19 features Melissa Gillispie The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:39:07

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Ziprent’s Innovation in Tenant Placement

9/26/2024
Arvand Sabetian and Nick Bokaie, founders of Ziprent, have leveraged the virtual showing process among other automations to create a property management company built on efficiency. They join Andrew to discuss how Ziprent came about, their philosophies on innovating in the PM space, and how they’ve used automations to reduce vacancy, ultimately creating a better service for their clients. Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Heading to NARPM National? Book your VIP experience today. It's completely free. https://www.secondnature.com/events/narpm-annual-vip Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Season 4 Episode 18 features Arvand Sabetian and Nick Bokaie The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:42:36

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The Secrets to Scaling a Property Management Company

9/12/2024
Scaling a company is a lot harder than just getting new business. Tony Cook knows. He was instrumental in Bay Management Group’s rise to over 6,000 doors. Cook joins Andrew Smallwood to talk about his story, his time at Bay, how they won new business, how they developed standing in new markets, and how they managed their rapid growth. Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Season 4 Episode 17 features Tony Cook The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:54:24

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The Most Common Mistake in Property Management

8/22/2024
What is the most common mistake made in property management today? That’s the question we posed to five industry-leading voices. Hear from Matthew Whitaker, Pablo Gonzalez, Peter Lohmann, Maranda Hunnicutt, and Wolfgang Croskey as they share what they each believe to be the most common mistake in property management. Are you currently making one of these? Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Season 4 Episode 16 features Matthew Whitaker, Pablo Gonzalez, Maranda Hunnicutt, Peter Lohmann, and Wolfgang Croskey The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:22:53

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Where is Proptech Headed?

8/8/2024
Few things have changed the property management industry more in the last five years than a growing proptech industry, but that industry continues to go through changes of its own. Nate Smoyer, host of the Tech Nest Podcast, joins Andrew Smallwood to cover the state of the proptech industry, where things could be headed, and how it’s all likely to affect you as a property manager. Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Season 4 Episode 15 features Nate Smoyer The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:37:20

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The Best Advice a Property Manager has Ever Received

7/25/2024
What is the best advice you have ever received as a property manager? That’s the question we posed to five industry-leading voices. Hear from Matthew Whitaker, Pablo Gonzalez, Peter Lohmann, Maranda Hunnicutt, and Wolfgang Croskey as they share the most valuable advice they ever received in their 100+ combined years of property management experience Ready to talk to an RBP expert in your area? Fill out the form on our website https://www.secondnature.com/request-demo Questions or thoughts on the topics we covered? Email us at triplewin@secondnature.com Join our private Facebook group - only for professional property managers at https://facebook.com/groups/triplewinpropertymanagers Stay up to date on events and resources on our website https://www.secondnature.com/events Follow the Triple Win Property Management podcast by Second Nature and never miss an episode! Season 4 Episode 14 features Matthew Whitaker, Pablo Gonzalez, Maranda Hunnicutt, Peter Lohmann, and Wolfgang Croskey The Triple Win Property Management podcast is produced and distributed by Second Nature

Duration:00:13:57