What's Your "And"?

Matt Haney, a fractional COO with Sinclair Ventures, shares how his passions for golf, travel, and fishing have shaped both his personal and professional life. As a lifelong golfer, Matt describes the sport as more than competition, focusing on the value of relationships and time spent in nature. He highlights the transformative power of golf trips with friends, like his curated adventures to Bandon Dunes, and the deep connections formed through shared experiences. Matt talks about inheriting the “travel bug” from his wife's family, crediting his grandfather-in-law’s adventurous spirit and prioritization of experiences over things. Fly fishing, especially in mountain streams, is another source of joy, reminding him of the importance of being present and connecting with nature. Throughout the conversation, Matt emphasizes that having outside interests is mission-critical for humanizing the workplace and fostering lasting connections with colleagues. Episode Highlights · Matt emphasizes that hobbies like golf, fishing, and travel are essential for personal well-being and professional effectiveness. They make you a better person and leader. · Golf isn’t just a game for Matt, but an opportunity to connect with others, enjoy nature, and continually challenge himself. The relationships and mental shifts he’s gained through golf have been life-changing. · Inspired by his wife’s family, Matt believes experiencing new places and cultures expands your world and creates stories and bonds you carry throughout life. · Using practices like EOS Meeting Segues, Matt brings people together at work by encouraging them to share personal 'wins' and outside interests, which boosts morale, builds trust, and deepens collaboration. · Matt prioritizes his "Ands" and encourages the same for his teams, stressing that a culture of overwork isn’t healthy—real success is supporting each other’s full lives, goals, and well-being, both in and out of the office.

Kristie Ondracek, CFO and COO at TXCPA Houston, talks about her passion for paper crafting, specifically card making and scrapbooking. Kristie shares how she began crafting in high school and has since embraced the creative process, which she finds essential for both personal expression and enhancing her problem-solving skills at work. She highlights the joy she experiences from bringing a smile to others with her custom cards, reflecting on memorable projects, including cherished moments crafting with her late mother. As a leader, Kristie emphasizes the importance of creating space for employees to share their passions and encourages organizations to value their human capital. Through her experiences, she illustrates how this creative hobby has fostered a unique and effective approach to leadership and professional challenges. Episode Highlights · Kristie emphasizes the importance of thinking outside the box and being creative in problem-solving, which is enhanced by her hobby of card-making and scrapbooking. · She talks about how her crafting hobbies have helped her stay sane and bring joy to others, illustrating the importance of balancing work with personal passions. · Kristie highlights the need for leaders to be involved with their team beyond work-related performance, suggesting that understanding personal interests can boost productivity and morale. · She believes it’s crucial for leaders to create environments where employees feel safe to express themselves and speak up, benefiting both individual and organizational growth. · Kristie shares her journey toward becoming more open and authentic about who she is and what she loves, demonstrating the power of self-acceptance and sharing one's true self with others.

Joel Zeff shares his journey from being a newspaper reporter to a successful keynote speaker and author. Joel describes his transformative experience with improv, which he discovered after moving to Dallas for a job as a newspaper reporter. Despite the challenges he faced when the newspaper closed, Joel explored stand-up comedy and eventually joined an improv troupe, which opened doors for him to merge his passion for improv with presentations at his corporate job. He emphasizes the importance of following one's passions and how improv has taught him valuable lessons in teamwork, leadership, and communication. Throughout the conversation, Joel highlights the significance of laughter in building connections and improving corporate culture. His insights provide a compelling story of how passion can transform into a fulfilling career. Episode Highlights · Joel found his passion for improv when he was invited on stage during a performance. It was a life-changing moment for him. · Losing his newspaper job led Joel to explore comedy and improv, which eventually became his career path. · Joel emphasizes the importance of not keeping work and passion separate, as opportunities like Texas Instruments requesting his improv skills for an executive retreat helped shape his career. · He believes that making people laugh bonds and connects them, and even if his talks achieve only that, it's worthwhile. · Joel stresses the importance of figuring out what you love and would do for free, as it can lead to unexpected career opportunities and fulfillment.

K.C. Eames shares her journey from playing indoor volleyball to discovering her passion for beach volleyball later in life. Raised in a household that encouraged trying various activities, K.C. began playing volleyball at 10 and progressed to playing in the Junior Olympics. Despite burning out from the intense schedule, she rediscovered her love for the sport through beach volleyball. K.C. emphasizes the parallels between athletic competition and professional growth, highlighting the importance of persisting through challenges. She also discusses the value of sharing personal interests to enhance workplace relationships, inspired by a memorable interaction early in her career with a Partner who valued her volleyball experience and sought out her advice for his daughter. Now in a leadership role, K.C. is committed to fostering an open workplace culture where individuals can freely share their diverse passions. Episode Highlights · K.C. emphasized the importance of trying out different activities and sports as a child, which helps in discovering what one truly loves. · The discipline, resilience, and understanding of failure that comes with sports have parallels in professional growth and success. · She experienced burnout from playing volleyball continuously, which teaches the lesson that being consumed by one activity can diminish the love for it. · K.C. highlighted that sharing personal interests at work leads to stronger connections, breaking down hierarchy, and enhancing workplace culture. · As a leader, demonstrating openness about one's own interests can cultivate an inclusive and open work environment, encouraging others to do the same.

Adam Shay, a former accounting firm owner now coaching business founders through his company Share the Knowledge, joins the show to discuss his passion for mountain activities. Adam shares his journey of discovering a love for the mountains during his college years in Virginia, which blossomed into regular trips for hiking, mountain biking, and snowboarding. He enjoys visiting places like the mountains of North Carolina, Virginia, and often makes trips out west to locations such as Colorado and Montana. Adam emphasizes how these outdoor experiences help him relax, find peace, and even spark creative ideas due to a clear mind away from work. As he transitioned to sharing more personal aspects of his life, the conversations with clients and team members became more meaningful, strengthening business relationships. Through these experiences, Adam underscores the importance of integrating personal interests into professional life for both personal fulfillment and to foster deeper connections in business. Episode Highlights · Adam enjoys mountain time, describing his trips to North Carolina, Virginia, and the western United States, finding peace and clarity away from work. · Sharing personal interests and passions helps deepen business relationships, moving them from transactional to more personal connections. · Adam posts about his personal interests on LinkedIn to build connections that bridge the gap between personal and professional life. · He believes in the importance of showing interest in people as individuals, beyond their professional roles, to develop deeper relationships. · Adam emphasizes the value of having passions outside of work, encouraging self-reflection and finding interests that bring joy, as these can contribute positively to one's personal and professional life.

Cristin Browne shares her passion for gardening and skiing and all things outdoors. She discusses how her love for gardening began after purchasing her house with a blank backyard, which she saw as a blank canvas to create a flourishing vegetable garden. Despite her initial efforts resulting in mostly failed crops except for zucchinis, she found joy in experimentation and the connections it fostered with her neighbors and coworkers. Additionally, Cristin talks about her passion for skiing, which began in her teenage years on the East Coast and was further developed in Colorado. She highlights the joy of engaging in ski lift conversations and the unique practice it provides for networking and building connections. Through these outdoor hobbies, she emphasizes the importance of embracing all aspects of oneself, both inside and outside of work. Episode Highlights · Cristin shares the significance of the color pink in maintaining her femininity and personal identity during her time in the military. · She discusses her journey into gardening, emphasizing experimentation, learning from failures, and the joy of connecting with neighbors and coworkers through gardening activities. · Cristin describes her love for skiing, highlighting how it offers a sense of freedom, adrenaline, and the opportunity to connect with others through shared experiences and ski lift conversations. · She advocates for bringing all facets of one's identity to work, expressing how sharing personal interests like gardening can lead to deeper connections and adjacencies with coworkers, enhancing workplace culture. · Cristin emphasizes the importance for individuals to be authentic and for organizations to foster a culture that supports and values the diverse aspects of an employee's identity beyond just their professional role.

In this episode of What's Your "And"?, Jeff Towberman, the finance supervisor and controller at the North Saint Paul School District in Minnesota, shares his profound passion for baseball. Jeff recounts how a childhood experience at a San Francisco Giants game with his grandfather sparked his love for the sport. Over the last forty years, Jeff has channeled this passion into playing and then coaching baseball at various levels, including youth leagues and high school teams. He emphasizes the life lessons baseball can teach, such as teamwork, resilience, and the importance of knowing one's role. Jeff's story highlights how his dedication to baseball has positively influenced his professional life and personal connections. Listen in as Jeff and John discuss the intersection of sports, work, and life. Episode Highlights · Coaching baseball has allowed Jeff to positively impact the lives of young players, teaching them important life lessons beyond the game. · Jeff believes that baseball, like life, requires understanding individual roles and working as a team to succeed. · Jeff's lifelong love for baseball is deeply intertwined with his personal and professional life, including coaching at different levels and inspiring others. · Jeff emphasizes the importance of providing a supportive environment for kids in sports, recognizing that their time on the field can be a crucial escape from personal challenges.

This week's guest is Elsa Hirl, a financial assistant at Maquoketa State Bank in Iowa and the vibrant personality behind Momma Hirl's Baking. Elsa shares her passion for baking, which she attributes to her grandmothers and her early experiences making cinnamon rolls in junior high. She talks about how her baking journey and then sharing her "And" with others has bolstered her confidence and helped her break out of her comfort zone. Elsa also touches upon the joys of holiday traditions and the importance of balancing work with personal passions. Listeners will enjoy her humorous anecdotes and the heartwarming story of how her family came to appreciate her Christmas cinnamon rolls. Episode Highlights · Baking is deeply ingrained in Elsa's family history, with her starting to sell baked goods in junior high. · Works as a financial assistant while also managing her baking business, emphasizing the importance of pursuing passions alongside a career. · Pursuing and sharing her passion for baking has helped Elsa build personal confidence and step out of her comfort zone. · Sharing personal passions (like baking) at work helps in creating more meaningful human connections and improving workplace culture.

Bill Casey, the Deputy CEO at MGO, talks about his passion for music and car restoration. He shares memories of learning the guitar in high school and playing in various bands, emphasizing the importance of practice to stay proficient. Bill discusses his experience performing live many times in Chicago, highlighting the need for preparedness and teamwork in both music and work environments. He also talks about the significance of having hobbies for relaxation and creativity, seeing them as therapeutic ways to balance life's stresses. Further, Bill underscores the value of understanding colleagues' personal interests to build better communication and relationships in the workplace. Throughout the episode, he notes the importance of recognizing employees’ broader capabilities beyond their job roles. Episode Highlights · Engaging in personal hobbies like music and car restoration can foster relaxation, creativity, and better team dynamics. · Regular practice is essential for maintaining proficiency in any skill, whether it's playing guitar or delivering work presentations. · Providing and receiving constructive feedback in a positive manner is key to improving performance, be it in a band or at work. · Recognizing employees as more than their job roles and valuing their broader capabilities can enhance workplace culture and decision-making.

Anthea Bell, an embodiment and transformation coach and host of the Finding Your Way Home podcast, shares how walking in nature and mindful movement have been instrumental in her personal and professional transformation. She explains her journey from a demanding corporate career to becoming a coach focused on holistic well-being. Anthea emphasizes the importance of connecting with one's body and surroundings to counteract the stress of modern life. She also discusses the significance of connection and community in improving mental and physical health. Episode Highlights · Movement and walking in nature are essential for balancing life's stress and maintaining mental health · Transitioning from a corporate job to a coaching career emphasized the importance of connecting with one's passions professionally · Understanding and respecting the mind-body connection can significantly aid in personal and professional transformation · Genuine human connection and community are crucial for well-being and overcoming the stress of corporate environments · Being open to evolving and expanding beyond your current role or situation can lead to greater fulfillment and authenticity

In this episode of "What's Your 'And'?", guest Matt Pierce, a former advertising professional and passionate rap musician, shares his journey from Madison Avenue to the stage. Matt reflects on his early creative experiences and integrating his love for rap music with his advertising career. He recounts performing an original rap at a Havas Creative company happy hour, which led to more opportunities and recognition within his professional environment. Matt emphasizes the importance of sharing personal passions at work, as it fostered genuine connections and enhanced his visibility. He encourages listeners to pursue their hobbies while understanding the practical challenges involved. Despite initial hesitation, Matt found acceptance and encouragement from his colleagues, proving the value of authenticity in the workplace. Episode Highlights · Matt emphasizes the importance of balancing hobbies or passions with professional life and shares his experience of transitioning from advertising to music · He highlights the significance of sharing personal interests at work to foster genuine connections and enhance organizational culture · He discusses how sharing his creative talents at work, such as performing rap music at a work gathering, led to increased visibility and professional opportunities · Matt advises people not to rush into pursuing their passions full-time without practical understanding, valuing the fulfillment that part-time endeavors can provide

In this episode of "What's Your 'And'?," John Garrett welcomes Rick Goodmay, the Director of Client Relations at ICM Colorado. Rick shares how his passion for smoking meat and cheese serves as his creative outlet and how it fosters community both in his personal life and at work. Inspired by a coworker, he got into the art of smoking to enjoy and share larger quantities of delicious food. Rick emphasizes the importance of understanding the interests of coworkers and clients to build stronger relationships. He recounts heartwarming stories from his Italian upbringing that highlight the significance of food in bringing people together. Rick continues to spread joy and connection through his culinary talents, even making a point to smoke food with others at the office. Episode Highlights Utilizing hobbies to build relationships: Rick emphasized how his interest in smoking meats and cheeses helped him connect with coworkers and clients, fostering a sense of community. Keeping traditions alive: Rick highlighted the importance of continuing family traditions, such as cooking and sharing meals, which play a significant role in his life and personal identity. Cold smoking: Rick shared his technique of cold smoking, a method for smoking cheeses without melting them, adding a unique skill set to his hobby. Workplace culture: Rick spoke about the supportive and family-like culture at his workplace, stressing the importance of genuine care and check-ins among colleagues for a safer, more cohesive environment. Importance of sharing your passions: Rick encouraged listeners to share their passions with others, noting that even if some people aren't interested, there will always be others who are, and these shared interests can build meaningful connections.

Carla Youngblood, a CPA by day and comedian by night, shares insights from her journey into comedy that began at a talent show. She reflects on her experience performing at a bar, where she learned the importance of engaged audiences for successful comedy. Carla discusses how her natural talent for humor, honed from family gatherings, positively influences her workplace, making her more relatable and engaging. She emphasizes the importance of showcasing personal interests at work, advocating for spaces where colleagues can share their passions. Carla also recounts her memorable performance for the Funeral Association of Alabama and her impactful one-woman show, "The Truth About Breast Cancer." Episode Highlights · Carla advocates for sharing hobbies at work, believing it enhances workplace dynamics and personal connections. · Transitioning to speaking engagements, using humor to address serious topics like her breast cancer journey and connecting with other cancer survivors. · Humor has positively influenced her professional life, making her a more engaging and relatable colleague. · She encourages listeners to share their 'Ands' (personal interests) to create a more authentic and enjoyable work environment.

Malony Bartush, Director of HR Communications at Pentex Energy, delves into her passion for running and its impact on her professional life. She shares an inspiring anecdote about her running group’s extraordinary camaraderie, including a heartfelt story of members running extra miles for others who can't run that day. Malony discusses how this supportive mindset permeates her HR role, helping foster a motivated workplace culture. She highlights her popular "Mile-A-Day Challenge," an initiative that has extended to over 200 participants, promoting perseverance and mental strength. Additionally, Malony emphasizes the importance of authenticity and personal interests in enhancing both individual job satisfaction and organizational culture. Join us to hear Malony’s insights on balancing professional dedication with an enriching personal life. Episode Highlights · Her running group offers a strong sense of community and support, with members encouraging each other to achieve personal goals. · The perseverance and drive from running translate into Malony's HR role, aiding her during challenging times. · At Pentex Energy, a culture of support and encouragement for sharing personal interests leads to better productivity and job satisfaction. · This personal Mile-A-Day Challenge has grown to over 200 participants, highlighting the mental and physical benefits of consistent effort. · Embracing one's true self and hobbies leads to better workplace connections and overall satisfaction.

Franky Lopez, a senior accountant at BMSS Advisors and CPAs, shares his passion for competitive TV shows. Franky dives into his love for "Survivor," "Big Brother," and "The Challenge," as well as game shows like "Wheel of Fortune" and "Deal or No Deal." And let's not forget the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA. Growing up, his family frequently watched these shows together, which fostered his competitive spirit and interest in people's stories. Franky also recounts the excitement of putting in applications to be a contestant and his family's near-appearance on "Family Feud" a few years ago. He emphasizes how these interests help him connect with colleagues and build deeper relationships at work. Tune in to hear how Franky's unique hobbies impact his professional life and personal growth. Episode Highlights · Franky loves watching competition shows like Survivor, Big Brother, The Challenge, and game shows like Wheel of Fortune with his family, which was a significant bonding activity growing up. · He appreciates these shows not just for the competition but also for the personal stories of the participants, which make them more relatable and engaging. · Sharing his interest in competition shows at work helped him connect with colleagues, leading to activities like a Survivor Fantasy League with 20 participants. · Franky believes it’s crucial for organizations to create a culture where employees can share their personal interests and connect beyond work-related topics, fostering a supportive and engaging work environment. · He emphasized the importance of having supportive relationships at work, sharing a personal story of how his colleagues supported him during his father’s illness and passing.

Wendy Walker, VP of Regulatory Affairs at Sovos, shares her passion for quilting and running. Wendy reveals how she began quilting eight years ago to connect with her mom, utilizing pictures and video calls to collaborate from different states. She discusses the therapeutic and creative aspects of quilting, highlighting its significance as a stress reliever and a source of personal fulfillment. Wendy also touches on her initial reluctance about sharing her quilting hobby with colleagues, and how embracing it helped display her multifaceted personality beyond her professional role. She encourages listeners to pursue hobbies for personal satisfaction and to integrate these interests into their work life for a balanced and enriched experience. Lastly, Wendy talks about how personal interests can positively impact professional relationships and corporate culture by fostering creativity and open-mindedness. Episode Highlights · Revealing personal hobbies and interests helps positively impact professional relationships and dispel stereotypes. · Personal items like quilts can spark conversations with colleagues, fostering connections. · Individuals should pursue personal interests for their own joy and not be deterred by fear of judgment. · Balancing personal hobbies with professional life enriches interactions, relieves stress, and enhances overall creativity and job satisfaction.

John Tyreman shares how something simple like having his drum set in the background during a work video call with a client sparked a deeper connection and conversation. He emphasizes the importance of sharing personal interests to build meaningful relationships at work. John recalls inheriting his mom's Pearl Export drum set and how jamming with a neighbor ignited his passion for drumming. He discusses his journey from playing in various rock bands in high school and his twenties, taking a break due to parenting, and eventually returning to drumming. John also highlights how his musical background influences his career in marketing and podcasting. Episode Highlights · Sharing personal interests like hobbies can build deeper connections in professional settings. · Creating a space for employees to share their "and" can enhance team connections and work productivity. · The significance of perseverance with a humorous story from his early drumming days. · Balancing personal passions with parenting responsibilities is crucial for maintaining fulfillment. · The natural connection between personal passions (like drumming) and professional skills (such as marketing and podcasting).

Eric Kamont, Director of Strategic Partnerships for the Industrial Metaverse at Microsoft, discusses the transformative power of integrating personal passions into professional environments. Eric shares how using personal interests as icebreakers has strengthened his connections in both work and while running youth programs. He reflects on losing 115 pounds, achieving a black belt in martial arts, and completing 85 Spartan Races, illustrating his mental fortitude and perseverance. Eric highlights the importance of understanding colleagues on a deeper level and fostering diverse, passion-driven teams. He also digs into the positive impact of a supportive work culture that encourages employees to live their fullest lives. Additionally, Eric emphasizes the value of being change agents within organizations and connecting with others over shared outside-of-work interests. Episode Highlights · Sharing personal passions can serve as effective icebreakers in both work and social settings, facilitating deeper connections and networking. · Embracing and sharing personal interests can positively influence work culture and relationships, creating lasting connections and a supportive environment. · The mental strength developed through personal challenges, such as Spartan racing, can translate into tackling difficult projects and achieving professional success. · Having a diverse team with varied strengths, such as mental endurance and creativity, is crucial for excelling in the workplace. · Organizations should create a supportive environment that encourages employees to share and pursue their passions, leading to better well-being, productivity, and profitability.

Dave Hartley, a partner with Anders CPAs and Advisors and host of the But Who's Counting? podcast, shares his insights on the importance of authenticity and individuality in professional settings. Dave highlights how firm leaders play a crucial role in fostering genuine connections, especially in remote work environments. He recounts his love for music, starting from his first concert in seventh grade, and how working security at concerts influenced his people skills. A memorable story about guarding the stage at a Bon Jovi concert is something you definitely want to hear. Dave also talks about his fondness for stand-up comedy and how its challenges mirror the learning experiences in a career. His passion for music and comedy translates into building strong relationships with clients and colleagues. Episode Highlights · Emphasizes the importance of being yourself in professional settings and how acceptance of individuality is growing in professions like accounting. · Highlights the critical role of firm leaders in fostering genuine connections and interactions, especially in the remote work environment. · Stresses the value of showing genuine interest in employees’ personal interests and hobbies to foster relationships and team engagement. · Explains how his love for music has positively influenced his work, particularly in building and maintaining relationships with clients.

Judge Frank Szymanski discusses the importance of finding activities that bring joy and focus, advocating for spending time in "flow mode." Frank shares his passion for meditation, mindfulness, and yoga, and his efforts to implement these practices in the juvenile and adult prison systems. He also reflects on his dual identity as a singer in a David Bowie tribute band, emphasizing the significance of embracing all aspects of oneself. Szymanski highlights the effectiveness of mindfulness in addressing issues like gun violence and societal anxiety, and questions why such practices are not more widely adopted. Through his music and advocacy, Frank exemplifies the idea of fully activating oneself in both personal and professional life. Episode Highlights: · Emphasize finding joy and focus in activities, not just pursuing money and material gains for happiness. · Advocate for the positive impact of mindfulness, meditation, and yoga. · Highlight the decision to pursue a David Bowie tribute band due to admiration for Bowie's charisma and theatricality. · Stress the importance of serving others and integrating both personal passions and professional duties. · Encourage embracing all aspects of one's identity, including unique hobbies and professional roles.