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This IS Us. We Need To Own It. (TAW040)

Episode 040 - This IS Us. We Need To Own It. “This isn’t us. This isn’t America. We are better than this.” Have you heard—or said—those words recently? Well, you may not want to hear this, but the only way forward is to let those words go. Show Notes On January 6th, 2021 there was a historic and unprecedented event where people who had gathered in Washington D.C. to protest the certifying of the results of the presidential election turned into a violent mob that stormed the capital building....


You Need an Architecture of Grief (TAW039)

Episode 039 - You Need an Architecture of Grief (Interview with James Prescott) Twenty Twenty seems to be the car wreck that just keeps going, and the result is that many of us are experiencing more and more pain and grief. How are we to deal with this? Writer James Prescott and I discuss the ways we structure our lives for either avoiding or entering into and processing our grief. You've got to do it! Show Notes We all have an "architecture" to our lives. This is the structure of our lives...


Would Jesus call you (or your church) Satan? (TAW038)

Episode 038 - Would Jesus call you (or your church) Satan? “Get behind me, Satan!” Those are the words Jesus said to Peter. Yikes! But as I survey the current landscape of Christianity, I wonder if Jesus is saying this to us, or to our churches. In this episode, I reflect on what Jesus meant when he said these words to his friend, and what they might mean for us. Show Notes Read the scripture passages for yourself. The story: Matthew 16:21-28The background of Peter's declaration. Matthew...


Looking for God in all the wrong places – Interview with Paul J. Pastor (TAW037)

Episode 037 - Looking for God in All the Wrong Places - Interview with Paul J. Pastor Do you sometimes feel like your spiritual life is supposed to be in color, but you can only see it in black & white? Do you worry that we might be numb to God’s presence? Are you looking for a goose-bump moment and overlooking God in the process? In this episode, I ask Paul J. Pastor about this. Paul's the author of The Face of The Deep: Experiencing the Beautiful Mystery of Life with the Holy Spirit, a...


Don’t Avoid Starting Over (TAW036)

Episode 036 - Don't Avoid Starting Over I like knowing stuff. I like being seen as a good person. I love being an expert. Weird that I became a pastor, right? But here’s the thing. As much as I like this stuff, I’ve discovered it’s not very good for me. Turns out that being an expert doesn’t help you grow spiritually. Consider this: What you think you know about God might be getting in the way of really knowing God. Show Notes Scriptures referenced:The story of Abraham's calling. Genesis...


Your Values are Showing! (TAW035)

Episode 035 - Your Values are Showing! Pain is a terrible thing to waste. At least, that’s what my Trauma Therapist friend says. So, how are we using the pain of this difficult time of pandemic and protests so that we can be better people? This is part 3 of my 3 part conversation with Byron Kehler, a trauma therapist with nearly 40 years of experience. In this last conversation we'll talk about who the pandemic is revealing us to be, and how we can come out the other side better people. Show...


The 5 Stages of Pandemic Grief (TAW034)

Episode 034 - The 5 Stages of Pandemic Grief We are going through deep weeds right now -- pandemic, protests, unemployment, so many losses -- and it doesn't look like it's going to get better any time soon. But there's one important factor that will determine how well we deal with all of it. We are all feeling an important emotion we might not even realize we're feeling: Grief. What's going on? Why is this happening? What can we do about it? This is part 2 of my conversation with Byron...


Why are we feeling so crazy, and what can we do about it – Trauma response in the time of pandemic & protests (TAW033)

Episode 033 - Why are we feeling so crazy, and what can we do about it - Trauma response in the time of pandemic & protests Covid-19, Masks, Quarantine, and now protests against racial injustice and police brutality? If you’re feeling overwhelmed, or depressed, or angry, or confused, you are not alone. Why are we feeling this way and what can we do about it? Show Notes Byron Kehler is a trauma therapist with nearly 40 years of professional experience. Learn more about him at...


Pentecost, Breathing & George Floyd (TAW032)

Episode 032 - Pentecost, Breathing & George Floyd This is the air I breathe! My heart broke open this week as I watched the events unfold around the murder of George Floyd, and the protests and riots that followed. At the same time, I was studying the lectionary passages for Pentecost. This is an edited version of the sermon I preached at Bridge City Community Church. Let me be clear: In this sermon I am a white preacher speaking to white Christians about a topic that white people have to...


COVID, Suffering & Jesus (TAW031)

Episode 031 - COVID, Suffering & Jesus How are you doing with this COVID-19 thing? Are you afraid? Are you angry? Are you confused by all the different information about what to do? Are you just ready for it to be over? I get it. I’ve been all those things, and my feelings change from day today. Part of that is because this is a big deal, but part of it is because you and I—we’re just not that good at dealing with suffering. Show Notes COVID-19 should not have been a surprise. It's a direct...


Faith Isn’t Certainty (TAW030)

Episode 030 - Faith Isn't Certainty Faith is at the very heart of Christianity. It’s crucial. Without Faith, scripture says, it’s impossible to please God. But more than any other part of the spiritual life, faith is misunderstood. When we get this wrong, we set ourselves up for an ugly, painful crash. (And if faith isn't certainty, then what is it?) Show Notes A commitment to certainty is a real threat to our life of faith.Doubt and evaluating our beliefs is a necessary part of growth.That...


The Trip is the Point (TAW029)

Episode 029 - The Trip is the Point What are you gonna be when you grow up? What college do you want to go to? What are you gonna do when you graduate? Where are you going on your vacation? How soon do you think you can retire? You’ve been asked those questions, or questions like them, right? What do they all have in common? A destination. Our culture is absolutely infatuated with the destination. And that kind of thinking will wreck your spiritual life. It's also why I've stopped asking...


Low-Stress Knowing God’s Will (TAW028)

Episode 028 - Low-Stress Knowing God's Will I grew up in a church community where finding out God’s will was a big deal. Imagine the horror of living your whole life and then discovering you had missed God’s will? So, we spent a lot of time and energy trying to get clear on God’s will for us. I don’t think our urgency was warranted. Today I want to share with you my stress-free guide for finding God’s will. Show Notes Six principles for knowing God's will without feeling stress about it:...


In You I Remain (TAW027) (Anchor Prayer, Part 7)

Episode 027 - In You I Remain So what’s the main goal of Christianity? What is it that we’re all about? Is it about becoming better and better people? Is it about becoming more and more theologically correct? Is it to get us and everyone we love to heaven? If you said yes to any of those, I’m going to disagree. But before you bail, or dismiss me as a heretic, let me tell you what I mean. Show Notes Show notes will not be a transcript. At least not now. You'll find a few key bullet points,...


I Hear in Faith (TAW026) (Anchor Prayer, Part 6)

Episode 026 - I Hear in Faith I’ve been to some very busy places. Giant concerts surrounded by the press of people. City Wide Festivals. Time Square, Grand Central Station. Places where there is so much noise, so much going on, just overwhelming sensory input. But even having been in those kinds of places, I think the busiest place in the world is inside: The human mind. All that busyness, all that noise in our hearts, makes it hard to really hear the spirit of God. Let's talk about how to...


I Walk by Faith (TAW025) (Anchor Prayer, Part 5)

Episode 024 - I Rest in Faith Recently I was without a car for a few days. So for one appointment, I took a rideshare car to get there. The driver pulled up. I got in the car. Once I was buckled in, he asked me a question. “Where ya headed?” That question is, honestly, one of the most important questions any human can be asked. Do you know where you are headed? Show Notes Show notes will not be a transcript. At least not now. You'll find a few key bullet points, any scriptures references, as...


I Rest in Faith (TAW024) (Anchor Prayer, Part 4)

Episode 024 - I Rest in Faith I have been addicted to an illusion, a false belief. It made me feel better, and so I keep running back to it. But it's not real. My illusion? I am in control. Part of growing up, part of maturing spiritually, has been learning this obnoxious, even painful truth. I am not the final say. I'm not in charge of the universe, or the weather, or other people. I am not without limits. Remembering this is key to spiritual growth. Show Notes Show notes will not be a...


Time to Listen to Survivors of Sexual Trauma (TAW023)

Episode 023 - It's Time to Listen to the Survivors of Sexual Abuse One of the easiest ways to fail to love well is to assume that YOUR experience is canonical and that others have had the same experience you've had. We often do this with survivors of trauma. In this episode Mary DeMuth, author and advocate for sexual abuse victims, speaks to the issue of how Christians and Church Leaders often fail the survivors of trauma and how we can do better. Show Notes Show notes will not be a...


We’ve got Glory Upside Down (TAW022)

Episode 022 - We've Gotten God's Glory Upside Down I grew up learning a Christian story that the most important thing was God's glory. We gave God glory by what we believed, how we behaved, and how we talked about God to other people. Good Christians and Good churches would focus on giving God glory above all else. To kick off season 2 of the podcast, I'm going to share with you how I'm learning we may have misunderstood God's glory. Show Notes Show notes will not be a transcript. At least...


What is the Anchor Prayer? (TAW021) (Anchor Prayer, Part 3)

Episode 021 - What is the Anchor Prayer? Our church building roof has rock climbing anchors installed on it. It's a very steep and high roof. Doing maintenance and repair work up there is risky. Those anchor points allow people working on the roof to anchor themselves so they can go about their work and not fall off. In this series, I'm sharing with you a prayer that has become a similar kind of anchor to me in my life. Along the way, we're touching on how our brains work, how "abiding in...