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We capture insights from diverse leaders in health care, public health, and academic settings so that our organizations are in a stronger position to grow, innovate, and meet the challenges of our day.

We capture insights from diverse leaders in health care, public health, and academic settings so that our organizations are in a stronger position to grow, innovate, and meet the challenges of our day.


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We capture insights from diverse leaders in health care, public health, and academic settings so that our organizations are in a stronger position to grow, innovate, and meet the challenges of our day.




"When we speak, we are afraid our words will not be heard, nor welcome. But when we are silent, you're still afraid so it is better to speak.” -Interviewing Dr. Valerie Stone

In this episode, Dr. Valerie Stone shares her leadership trajectory, from her early years serving in leadership roles in high school to the many roles that she has taken on over the years. She also describes her leadership approach, which involves identifying important gaps and working with others to fill them. While her approach has been consistent over the years, her leadership style has changed slightly, as she focuses on emotional intelligence. Valerie Stone, MD, MPH is the Vice Chair...


"Do work you're passionate about, do work that works toward your strengths..." - Interviewing Dr. Joseph Betancourt

In this episode, Dr. Joseph Betancourt reflects on how early beginnings with his family upbringing influenced his journey to medicine and his outlook on how he approaches his work and opportunities. He also talks about the work he has done around diversity, equity and inclusion, in particular, how to think about and deliver cross cultural competency and communication to improve patient care. Dr. Betancourt provides advice for future leaders about learning through engagement when exploring a...


"Becoming is better than being." - Interviewing Dr. Kimberly Manning

In this episode, Dr. Kimberly Manning describes how her teachers and mentors pushed her to develop her powerful writing, to integrate narrative medicine and storytelling into her career in medicine, and therefore, standout in her purpose. Often witness to simplistic and misrepresented stories about patients in safety net hospitals, she reflects on the privilege of writing and sharing vulnerable moments with patients to bring forward their voices. Also, she discusses advice she offers leaders...


Leadership Toolbox: Personal Board of Directors with Katie Brandert

The second episode in our Leadership Toolbox Series, where leadership development experts talk about key skills, tools and resources that leaders need to lead effectively, features content about a "Personal Board of Directors" or a "Supporting Cast". In this episode, Katie Brandert, MPH, discusses what a personal board of directors is and describes the various types of "directors" that comprise a personal board for leaders. Click the following link to access the worksheet mentioned in the...


"Where there is no understanding, there is no explanation. Where there is understanding, there is no need for an explanation." - Interviewing Dr. John Lowe

Dr. John Lowe shares insight through stories about his career and how his Native American heritage and grounded knowledge of self has influence sharing and leaving knowledge with others throughout his career. He also describes the power of hearing one's internal voice and connecting to one's purpose to find space for reflection and personal growth amidst the challenges of today. Dr. John Lowe is Professor and the Joseph H. Blades Centennial Memorial Professorship Chair at the University of...


"Love is the greatest force in the universe. It is the heartbeat of the moral cosmos. He who loves is a participant in the being of God." - Interviewing Dr. Susana Morales

In this episode, Dr. Susana Morales talks about how her deep roots in activism and her family played a pivotal role in her journey. Like our other leaders this season, she provides her perspective in this time, discussing opportunities around diversity and health equity for leaders. Along the way, she also reflects on her early mentors and the mentoring models she developed for her current work and initiatives. Dr. Susana Morales is the Vice Chair for Diversity for in the Department of...


"Leadership is not so much about technique and methods as it is about opening the heart..." - Interviewing Dr. Wizdom Powell

Dr. Wizdom Powell discusses her path to health equity work, starting from a very young age growing up in a housing project. Recognizing early on the power and the impacts of losing men from families, she talks how that has propelled her work to examine health among men of color. She shares her appreciation of integrating creative modalities with data and advice for rising leaders in these times. Dr. Powell is the Director of the University of Connecticut Health Disparities Institute and...


"Our deepest fear is not that we're not inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we're powerful beyond measure..." -Interviewing Dr. Kira Banks

In this episode, Dr. Kira Banks describes the impactful mentorship experiences that shaped her career trajectory as a psychologist and community researcher. She emphasizes the importance of using academic tools to engage communities and is passionate about helping people navigate systems of oppression. In her consulting work, she works with organizations to establish equitable environments and works to support individuals and groups to help them understand themselves, others, and oppression....


"...be a citizen, and build a community." - Interviewing Dr. Camara Jones (Part II)

In Part II, Dr. Jones shares what she sees as the key challenges that leaders are facing now, which serve as barriers to achieving health equity. She identifies three major challenges: providing resources according to need, recognizing and rectifying historical injustices, and valuing all individuals and populations equally. Additionally, she discusses her recent work "Seven Values Targets for Anti-Racism Action." Learn more about Dr. Jones Work Allegories on race and racism...


"Be courageous, be curious..." - Interviewing Dr. Camara Jones (Part I)

In Part I of our Season 2 Opener, Dr. Camara Jones offers four pieces of advice: 1) be courageous, 2) be curious, 3) be a citizen, and 4) build community and tells us how she formed these ideologies throughout the course of her career and how to apply them. She also describes her career journey in medicine and public health, from her academic training at Wellesley, Stanford, and Johns Hopkins, to her faculty position at Harvard and her time at the CDC and shares lessons learned navigating...


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Closing: Season 1 Reflection

In the final episode of the season, Host Giselle Corbie-Smith, Executive Producer Sable Watson, and Producer Rachel Quinto reflect on the the first season of A Different Kind of Leader. The team talks about what they learned from guests and the process of putting together a podcast, and what to look forward to in Season 2. @gcsmd @quintossence @sablewatson


"Anything worth doing is worth doing badly" - Interviewing Dr. Nirav Shah

Nirav Shah, MD, MPH is a national leader in patient safety, quality, innovation, and digital health and the strategies required to lower costs for patient centered health care. In this last episode of Season 1, tune in as Dr. Shah shares his journey working toward impacting change on a statewide and national scale. He also discusses the importance of committment and perseverence, in the face of failures, as reflected in the quote that embodies his leadership style. Follow Dr. Shah on...


"If it's worth having, you have to work for it" - Interviewing Dr. Tracie Collins

Tracie Collins, MD, MPH is the Dean of the University of New Mexico College of Population Health, one of three in the nation, and is a clinician and researcher who studies the racial disparities in the impact of serious vascular disorders. In this episode, Dr. Collins reflects how she made the transitions in her career through regular evaluation and a personal experience that influenced how she thinks about her work in population health. Follow Dr. Collins' Institution on Twitter...


"Success or winning the game is defined by three things..." - Interviewing Dr. Som Saha

"Success or winning the game is defined by three things. One is doing something you truly care about, that you are deeply passionate about. The second is finding something that you are uniquely suited to do, that you can do particularly well. And the third is that what you do should contribute something good to the world. And if you find the thing where you hit all three of those buttons, you have won the game." Somnath Saha, MD, MPH is a general internist at the Portland VA Healthcare...


"...No one person is responsible for that success and the honor of one does the honor of all." - Interviewing Dr. Spero Manson

Spero M. Manson, PhD, is a Medical Anthropologist and Distinguished Professor in Public Health and Psychiatry. Dr. Manson is widely acknowledged as one the nations leading authorities regarding Indian and Native Health. Tune as as Dr. Manson reflects on how is backgound and roots drove and transformed his leadership journey and experiences. He discusses his work and impact addressing health inequalities as it relates to American Indian and Alaska Native people. TIMESTAMPS Intro (00:00) |...


"It is not the manager's job to prevent risks. It is the manager's job to make it safe to take them." - Interviewing Dr. Howard Liu

Howard Liu, MD, MBA, is a nationally recognized psychiatrist, educator, workforce expert, social media innovator, and health care leader at the University of Nebraska Medical Center (UNMC). In this episode, Dr. Liu discusses his work advocating for equity and allyship. He also dives into the professional impact of social media and how it has become a critical aspect for his professional life. Follow Dr. Liu on Twitter: @DrHowardLiu TIMESTAMPS Intro (00:00) | Quote (01:13) | Journey to...


"Every system is perfectly designed to get the results that it gets." - Interviewing Dr. Monica Lypson

Monica L. Lypson MD, MHPE is the Vice Chair for Faculty Affairs and Professor at The George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Sciences where she provides visionary leadership for a diverse group of faculty involved in educational and patient care innovation, research, and community outreach. In this episode, Dr. Lypson discusses systems and its impact on leadership development and diversity. She also talks about using skills in crisis communication, especially in current...


"Perfect is the Enemy of the Good" - Interviewing Dr. Vineet Arora

Vineet Arora, MD, MAPP, is an academic hospitalist, researcher, and medical educator at University of Chicago Medicine. Her work specializes in improving the learning environment for medical trainees and the quality safety and experience of care to hospitalized patients. Listen in as Dr. Arora discusses her practice in "Bridging Leadership" to improve her work in quality and safety in clinical medicine and medical education. She also briefly talks about what can be learned and implemented in...


"The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant." - Interviewing Dr. Janet Southerland

Janet Southerland, DDS, MPH, PhD is Vice President of Interprofessional Education, Institutional Effectiveness, and Health Education Center at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, Texas. In this episode, Dr. Southerland explores how integral the power of community was in her trajectory toward leadership, and discusses her current work in interprofessional education as a dentist and a public health researcher.