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We capture insights from diverse leaders in health care, public health, and academic settings so that our organizations are in a stronger position to grow, innovate, and meet the challenges of our day. Visit https://www.differentkindofleader.com to learn more.

We capture insights from diverse leaders in health care, public health, and academic settings so that our organizations are in a stronger position to grow, innovate, and meet the challenges of our day. Visit https://www.differentkindofleader.com to learn more.


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We capture insights from diverse leaders in health care, public health, and academic settings so that our organizations are in a stronger position to grow, innovate, and meet the challenges of our day. Visit https://www.differentkindofleader.com to learn more.




Leadership Toolbox: Enneagram Typology with Angela Rosenberg

Angela Rosenberg, DrPH, PT, BCC is a leadership consultant who earned her Master’s in Public Health and her Doctorate in Leadership Development at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Through her company, Inside Out, Dr. Rosenberg focuses on individualized leadership development and the development, facilitation, and evaluation of executive leadership teams. She is a Board Certified Leadership Coach (BCC) and is certified to administer and train on a wide range of leadership...


"Leadership is the capacity to translate a vision into reality." - Interviewing Dr. Carlos Del Rio

Carlos del Rio, MD is a Distinguished Professor of Medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Emory University School of Medicine and Executive Associate Dean for Emory at Grady. He is also Professor of Global Health and Professor of Epidemiology at the Rollins School of Public Health. He is co-Director of the Emory Center for AIDS Research (CFAR) and co-PI of the Emory-CDC HIV Clinical Trials Unit and the Emory Vaccine and Treatment Evaluation Unit. In this episode, Dr. del Rio...


"The racial philosophy we must seek..." - Interviewing Dr. Chandra Ford

Chandra L. Ford, PhD, MPH, MLIS is Professor of Community Health Sciences and Founding Director of the Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice and Health in the Fielding School of Public Health at the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA). Her work offers conceptual and methodological tools for studying racism as a public health problem. In this episode, Dr. Ford describes how her career journey pivoted unexpectedly as a result of her experiences as an undergraduate student....


"The arc of history is long, but it always begins towards justice." - Interviewing Dr. Brian Smedley

Brian Smedley, PhD is chief of Psychology in the Public Interest, where he leads APA’s efforts to apply the science and practice of psychology to the fundamental problems of human welfare and social justice. In this episode, Dr. Smedley discusses how work in social justice has been instrumental in addressing the challenges of current events (e.g., COVID-19, racial inequality, etc.). He illustrates how much this body of work has grown since the late 90s, when issues of racial justice and...


"You cannot change any society, unless you take responsibility for it..." - Interviewing Dr. Emily Wang

Emily Wang, MD, MAS is a Professor in the Yale School of Medicine and Public Health and directs the new SEICHE Center for Health and Justice. The SEICHE Center is a collaboration between the Yale School of Medicine and Yale Law School working to stimulate community transformation by identifying the legal, policy, and practice levers that can improve the health of individuals and communities impacted by mass incarceration. She leads the Health Justice Lab research program, which receives...


"Vision, without execution, is hallucination." - Interviewing Dr. Sandro Galea

Sandro Galea, MD, MPH, DrPH, a physician, epidemiologist, and author, is dean and Robert A. Knox Professor at Boston University School of Public Health. In this episode, Dr. Galea describes his early beginnings in Medicine and the decision to pivot towards a career in public health. He comments on the biomedical achievements in response to the pandemic, as well as the structural challenges that emerged and/or were exacerbated as a result of the pandemic. His advice to leaders in these...


"Never give up; never give up; never, never, never give up." - Interviewing Dr. Margaret Moss

Margaret Moss, PhD, JD, RN, is an enrolled member of the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation (Three Affiliated Tribes of North Dakota), and has equal lineage as Canadian Sioux/ Saskatchewan. She is currently, at the University of British Columbia as Director of the First Nations House of Learning, and in the Faculty of Applied Science as an Associate Professor in the School of Nursing. Dr. Moss is the first and only American Indian to hold both nursing and juris doctorates. In this episode,...


"Service is the rent we pay for living." - Interviewing Dr. Lauren Smith

Lauren Smith, MD, MPH, is the Chief Health Equity and Strategy Officer for the CDC Foundation, a newly created role for which she brings over 25 years of experience in healthcare delivery, management, public policy and public health. In this episode, Dr. Smith describes her early interests in science and the social determinants of health, which influenced her career pursuits in medicine, government, and public health. She shares her experiences working in government, and the transition to...


"You can't live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you." - Interviewing Dr. Keith Norris

Keith Norris, MD, PhD is an internationally recognized clinician scientist and health policy leader. A board certified nephrologist and member of the National Kidney Foundation's Kidney Disease Outcome Quality Initiative, Dr. Norris has been instrumental in shaping national health policy and clinical practice guidelines for chronic kidney disease. In this episode, Dr. Norris describes the three mentors who played a pivotal role in his career journey, and how their guidance molded him into...


"People will not remember what you do, but they'll remember how you make you feel." - Interviewing Dr. Aletha Maybank

Aletha Maybank, MD, MPH, currently serves as the Chief Health Equity Officer and Group Vice President for the American Medical Association (AMA), where she focuses on embedding health equity across all the work of the AMA and leading the Center for Health Equity. In this episode, Dr. Maybank discusses her experiences in the medical field and her desire to pursue public health. It was in her work with the Office of Minority Health that she became entrenched in health disparities work. Issues...


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"When we speak, we are afraid our words will not be heard, nor welcome. But when we are silent, you're still afraid so it is better to speak.” -Interviewing Dr. Valerie Stone

In this episode, Dr. Valerie Stone shares her leadership trajectory, from her early years serving in leadership roles in high school to the many roles that she has taken on over the years. She also describes her leadership approach, which involves identifying important gaps and working with others to fill them. While her approach has been consistent over the years, her leadership style has changed slightly, as she focuses on emotional intelligence. Valerie Stone, MD, MPH is the Vice Chair...


"Do work you're passionate about, do work that works toward your strengths..." - Interviewing Dr. Joseph Betancourt

In this episode, Dr. Joseph Betancourt reflects on how early beginnings with his family upbringing influenced his journey to medicine and his outlook on how he approaches his work and opportunities. He also talks about the work he has done around diversity, equity and inclusion, in particular, how to think about and deliver cross cultural competency and communication to improve patient care. Dr. Betancourt provides advice for future leaders about learning through engagement when exploring a...


"Becoming is better than being." - Interviewing Dr. Kimberly Manning

In this episode, Dr. Kimberly Manning describes how her teachers and mentors pushed her to develop her powerful writing, to integrate narrative medicine and storytelling into her career in medicine, and therefore, standout in her purpose. Often witness to simplistic and misrepresented stories about patients in safety net hospitals, she reflects on the privilege of writing and sharing vulnerable moments with patients to bring forward their voices. Also, she discusses advice she offers leaders...


Leadership Toolbox: Personal Board of Directors with Katie Brandert

The second episode in our Leadership Toolbox Series, where leadership development experts talk about key skills, tools and resources that leaders need to lead effectively, features content about a "Personal Board of Directors" or a "Supporting Cast". In this episode, Katie Brandert, MPH, discusses what a personal board of directors is and describes the various types of "directors" that comprise a personal board for leaders. Click the following link to access the worksheet mentioned in the...


"Where there is no understanding, there is no explanation. Where there is understanding, there is no need for an explanation." - Interviewing Dr. John Lowe

Dr. John Lowe shares insight through stories about his career and how his Native American heritage and grounded knowledge of self has influence sharing and leaving knowledge with others throughout his career. He also describes the power of hearing one's internal voice and connecting to one's purpose to find space for reflection and personal growth amidst the challenges of today. Dr. John Lowe is Professor and the Joseph H. Blades Centennial Memorial Professorship Chair at the University of...


"Love is the greatest force in the universe. It is the heartbeat of the moral cosmos. He who loves is a participant in the being of God." - Interviewing Dr. Susana Morales

In this episode, Dr. Susana Morales talks about how her deep roots in activism and her family played a pivotal role in her journey. Like our other leaders this season, she provides her perspective in this time, discussing opportunities around diversity and health equity for leaders. Along the way, she also reflects on her early mentors and the mentoring models she developed for her current work and initiatives. Dr. Susana Morales is the Vice Chair for Diversity for in the Department of...


"Leadership is not so much about technique and methods as it is about opening the heart..." - Interviewing Dr. Wizdom Powell

Dr. Wizdom Powell discusses her path to health equity work, starting from a very young age growing up in a housing project. Recognizing early on the power and the impacts of losing men from families, she talks how that has propelled her work to examine health among men of color. She shares her appreciation of integrating creative modalities with data and advice for rising leaders in these times. Dr. Powell is the Director of the University of Connecticut Health Disparities Institute and...


"Our deepest fear is not that we're not inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we're powerful beyond measure..." -Interviewing Dr. Kira Banks

In this episode, Dr. Kira Banks describes the impactful mentorship experiences that shaped her career trajectory as a psychologist and community researcher. She emphasizes the importance of using academic tools to engage communities and is passionate about helping people navigate systems of oppression. In her consulting work, she works with organizations to establish equitable environments and works to support individuals and groups to help them understand themselves, others, and oppression....


"...be a citizen, and build a community." - Interviewing Dr. Camara Jones (Part II)

In Part II, Dr. Jones shares what she sees as the key challenges that leaders are facing now, which serve as barriers to achieving health equity. She identifies three major challenges: providing resources according to need, recognizing and rectifying historical injustices, and valuing all individuals and populations equally. Additionally, she discusses her recent work "Seven Values Targets for Anti-Racism Action." Learn more about Dr. Jones Work Allegories on race and racism...