Bye Bye OC

This episode’s expert guest joins us to discuss how tiny house living can possibly help you leave California. Ethan Waldman is the author of two books; Tiny House Decisions and Tiny House Parking. He is also the host of the podcast, Tiny House Lifestyle, a show that brings you conversations with tiny house luminaries, builders, and DIYers. A tiny house is generally thought of as a small house, typically sized under 600 square feet. While they can be built on foundations, most tiny homes are built on trailers. This makes them very versatile when it comes to where you live. It’s a great way to keep costs down and your environmental footprint small. We cover a few details of tiny living like how to consider state laws, how to make the most out of a small space and where you can go to join engaged communities to meet and talk to tiny house communities to help you decide if leaving California in a tiny house is right for you. [1:12] How did you get into tiny house living? [3:22] Is the tiny house lifestyle as easy as it looks? [7:19] Ways to leave California in a tiny home [9:42] Where does someone start with tiny house living? [11:52] Things to consider about living tiny [15:43] Expert tips on designing a tiny house [18:30] The latest trends in tiny house living [20:11] What's the tiny house community like? [24:09] The cost of tiny house living To connect with Ethan: Website: https://www.thetinyhouse.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ethanwaldman Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/buildingthetinyhouse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ethanwaldman/ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/tiny-house-lifestyle-podcast To Connect with Shell Pavlis: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®,Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://www.LeaveCaliforniaNow.org https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://www.instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

This is part 2 of Bye Bye OC’s top 5 most Popular Destinations for Californians Moving Out of State. In part 1 we talked about destinations 4 and 5, Oregan and Nevada. We also had an expert guest join us from our special mention state of Idaho to talk about why moving there could also be the choice for you. In this episode we talk about the top 3 most popular destinations for Californians moving out of state according to the US census bureau’s latest American community survey. Our aim is to help you narrow down where you’d like to relocate to by providing you with detailed information on each destination. The top 3 destinations are: TexasArizonaWashington State We are joined by special guest DeDe Forwood, from HomeSmart, who is a Realtor® partner with LeaveCaliforniaNow.org and specializes in Phoenix and the surrounding areas. https://data.census.gov/cedsci/?q=california%20outbound The U.S. Census Bureau's annual American Community Survey To connect with DeDe: m: 480.818.9391 a: 5225 N Central Ave #104 Phoenix, AZ 85012 w: https://DeDeForwood.com e: DeDe@DeDeForwood.com Linkedin: https://linkin.bio/dedeforwood Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DeDeForwoodRealtor To Connect with Shell Pavlis: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®,Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://www.LeaveCaliforniaNow.org https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://www.instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

On this special 2 part episode of Bye Bye OC, we’ll cover the top 5 most popular destinations for Californians moving out of state. We go in reverse order, so we start with numbers 4 & 5 and we also touch on a special mention that didn’t make the list. We all have different reasons for relocating so we’ll go through the differences from state-to-state. Some locations are similar to California and most of the top 5 spots are on the west coast which could make it easier to make the move. The list of the 5 most popular states Californians are moving to comes from the latest US census bureau's annual community survey and it uses 2019 stats. Numbers 4 & 5 of the most popular states for Californians to move to are; number 5, Oregon and number 4, Nevada. We’ll go over the cost of living from state to state, weather, tax rates, things to do and wildlife. We are joined by special guest Micheal Wasick. He is a full time real estate agent who works within Boise and the surrounding areas. He is a former Californian and made the move himself from Long Beach, California to Idaho. Although Idaho didn’t make it into the top 5 destinations, it is still a very popular choice for Californians moving away. Micheal joins Bye Bye OC to discuss his experience making the move and shares with us useful tips to help you make the move. https://data.census.gov/cedsci/?q=california%20outbound The U.S. Census Bureau's annual American Community Survey To connect with Michael Wasick: Michael Wasick - Realtor (208) 598-1592 Berkshire Hathaway Home Services - Silverhawk Realty To Connect with Shell Pavlis: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®,Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 https://www.LeaveCaliforniaNow.org https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ https://www.instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

Lauralee Hites is the founder of Stratavize Consulting. One of the many solutions she and her team offers is supporting U.S states that aim to provide an attractive living environment to people moving in from abroad. Lauralee has moved across the country numerous times. Along the way she’s kept track of what went right with these moves and what went wrong. She not only shares her journey of moving cross country twice for her career, but also how the clients she works with today are focused on attracting talent to some of the most unexpected places. She talks with us about how communities in the midwest are working hard to create the kind of place that people want to live to both help their communities grow and thrive, as well as, provide a great home for people. She encourages people wanting to relocate to take into consideration HOW they want to live, not just WHERE they want to live. Here are a few links mentioned in this episode: Move Upstate South Carolina: http://moveupstatesc.com Forge Your Path Indiana: https://forgeeci.com To Connect with Lauralee Hites: Linkedin: @Lauralee Hites Facebook: @Lauralee Hites Twitter: @Lauralee Hites Instagram: @PassengerPenPal Stratavize Website: www.stratavize.com Connect With Shell Pavlis, Bye Bye OC/Exit Orange County: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://exitorangecounty.com https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

Mads Singers has more than 10 years of experience in Fortune 500 companies, such as Xerox and IBM, and more than 7 years of experience coaching and consulting online entrepreneurs. Currently, Mads owns and runs 3 companies, and manages more than 100 people, he doesn’t just talk the talk, he walks the walk. Mads joins Bye Bye OC to talk about the emerging employment and business landscape that we are seeing due to the COVID-19 pandemic. And how to use it to your advantage when making the move from California to anywhere else in the world. Online startup e-comm businesses are booming right now because everyone has made the move online to practice social distancing. These companies are hiring a lot of people to keep up with the demand without showing signs of slowing down. Also, traditional businesses that insist on operating from an established location are moving their teams online which is creating a lot of opportunity to telecommute from wherever you are. Mads shares his best tips on how to increase your chances on getting hired at a company you will enjoy working at and where you can look for hiring opportunities. To connect with Mads Singers Website: https://madssingers.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MadsSingers Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madssingers Email: mads@madssingers.com Connect With Shell Pavlis, Bye Bye OC/Exit Orange County: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://exitorangecounty.com https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

John Joines is the co-host of the Uprooted Podcast with his wife Christine. Together they talk about navigating their way through life, parenting, and everything in between all alone in Massachusetts. The Uprooted name comes from their experience of leaving everything they’ve ever known behind in California to establish new roots in the Bay State. John shares his experiences with moving his family from California to Massachusetts and how he found a great job from across the country. John noticed differences in the people between the two states right away and how not receptive they are to people moving into Massachusetts from out of state. He has settled in a quiet, rural community called Middleton located about 20 miles from Boston. John leaves us with what it’s been like for his kids to move across the country and tips to make the transition easier for families thinking of making a similar move. You can listen to The Uprooted Podcast anywhere podcasts are streaming: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uprooted-podcast/id1504921826 To connect with John: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theuprootedpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theuprootedpod/ Website: https://theuprootedpod.com/ Connect With Shell Pavlis, Bye Bye OC/Exit Orange County: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://exitorangecounty.com https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

Trey Miller is a Marine Corp Veteran and the founder of Ghost Tactical Productions, a Pro-Gun media organization operating in Arkansas. Trey started Ghost Tactical Productions with the mission to educate, inform, and engage in conversations that will tear down the misconceptions surrounding gun people. He lives in Herber Springs, Arkansas and is the host of the Armed Citizen Podcast. Trey joins Bye Bye OC to share some reasons why gun owners might like Arkansas. It’s a gun friendly state with a strong hunting community and a ton of space for outdoor activities. Trey also touches on the gun laws from state-to-state and the differing perceptions that some states have and how those perceptions affect people’s ability to become licensed gun owners. If you’re interested in becoming a responsible gun owner, here are some resources to get you started as recommended by Trey: Trey’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/usmcpro NRA: https://home.nra.org/ Gun Owners of America: https://gunowners.org/ The Firearms Policy Coalition: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/ To connect with Trey Miller: Website: https://www.ghosttacticalproductions.com/ YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/usmcpro Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/armed-citizen-podcast/id1402793031 Connect With Shell Pavlis, Bye Bye OC/Exit Orange County: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://exitorangecounty.com https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

Camy Kennedy is a Mindset & Life Coach working with high achievers to create breakthroughs in health, wealth and love. With a background in molecular biology, neuroscience & psychology she provides a framework for incremental success. It's not about being perfect, it's about practicing your potential! She’s an international speaker and has been featured in Oxygen Magazine and Shape.com. Camy Joins Bye Bye OC to talk about the differences between California and North Carolina and why she decided to make the move. She shares with us how her life has changed, how she’s had to adapt and how much happier she is in North Carolina. You can reach Camy Kennedy at contactcamy@gmail.com Connect With Shell Pavlis, Bye Bye OC/Exit Orange County: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 http://www.exitorangecounty.com https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ http://www.instagram.com/shellseeshell 949-433-8804 Shell@byebyeoc.com

One of the main reasons that people want to move away from California is the cost of living. One of the major costs is your home. Our Guest, Eric Miller, helps us sort through possible aspects of lowering the cost of owning your home through your mortgage and what you might be able to have a little more control over your money. Eric Miller is a full service mortgage banker, offering a diverse portfolio of home loan products. Eric is the branch manager at the Irvine Finance Of America where he’s earned the prestigious top five percent gold status, and maintains 4.9 out of 5 stars after receiving 33860+ reviews. Eric joins the Bye Bye O.C to talk about: - Difference between a lender and mortgage broker. - What does it mean to qualify for a mortgage. - How has the climate of lending changed. - Current options for borrowers. - Programs for California home homeowners to keep costs down. - How to use your home in California to move to a new state. Connect With Shell Pavlis: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 Web: http://www.exitorangecounty.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/shellseeshell Phone: 949-433-8804 Email: Shell@byebyeoc.com

Emily and Joe Wise both grew up in California and decided to move to Iowa in 2013. Emily and Joe join the podcast to talk about why they decided to move from California to Iowa, what it’s like to live in Iowa, how property taxes differ from California, what it’s like to start a family and raise children in Iowa and how to get ready to make your move from California to Iowa. Emily previously worked in the medical field as a receptionist and has since made the jump to being a podcaster and virtual assistant specializing in podcast support. Emily’s podcast is called Bad Clients Podcast and can be heard everywhere you listen to podcasts. Joe works in the patient access department in the hospitals and clinics at the University Of Iowa. In his spare time he is a graphic designer, actor and audiobook narrator. Connect with Emily Wise: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/emily.wise.9674227 Her Podcast, Bad Clients Podcast, can be found where you normally listen to your podcasts, and on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvcFLHnXgg Email: BadClientsPodcast@gmail.com And you can connect with Joe through Emily. Connect With Shell Pavlis: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties, DRE #01340071 Web: http://www.exitorangecounty.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ Instagram: http://instagram.com/shellseeshell Phone: 949-433-8804 Email: Shell@byebyeoc.com

There are nearly a million Californians who are considering leaving in the next year. Bye Bye OC is the podcast for California residents who don’t just want to talk about leaving, but actually want to make a plan and DO IT! My name is Shell Pavlis and I have been assisting home buyers and sellers find their perfect home since 2001. In the first episode of Bye Bye O.C. I want to give you an idea of who I am, what to expect from future episodes and what Bye Bye O.C. is all about. I also give you some actionable tips that you can start working on today to start your California Exodus plan. Some of the topics I talk about are: - How to figure out where you want to go and what to consider in order to make that decision. - Several episodes will involve money, like how to save it or tips and tricks from experts on taxes. - We're also gonna talk about people like us, people who want to leave California but haven't yet for some reason or people who have moved and can give advice on things that they wish that they had done differently. Things to write down from the show: 1. List of things you want in your new home: - Weather - Geographics - Things to Do -Politics - Religion/location of churches - Money: How much you’ve saved, if any. How could property taxes, income taxes, retail taxes, vehicle registration, cost of living all affect money available. - Healthcare - Culture: Environment, City vs County, Arts, Rural Farm - Employment - Transportation - HOAs 2. Your Living Situation/What you’d need to do to leave tomorrow! a. Rent …give notice b. Organize your stuff, sell or trash what you don’t want. Would you need to sell and how involved might that be? c. Job – Get new job first? Give notice? Moving a business? Sell your home? New episodes are released every second Wednesday of the month. You can subscribe and listen wherever you prefer to listen to podcasts like Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeart Podcasts, Tunein, etc. Connect With Shell Pavlis: Are you ready to leave California? Have questions or want Exit Orange County’s help? Have a topic suggestion for a future episode? Call, text or email Shell Pavlis, REALTOR®, Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Propeties, DRE #01340071 Web: http://www.exitorangecounty.com, http://www.liveplayorangecounty.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/byebyeoc/ Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/shellseeshell Phone: 949-433-8804 Email: Shell@byebyeoc.com

Coming Soon

There are nearly a million Californians who are considering leaving in the next year. Bye Bye OC is the podcast for California residents who don’t just want to talk about leaving, but actually want to make a plan and DO IT! My name is Shell Pavlis and I have been assisting home buyers and sellers find their perfect home since 2001. In the first episode of Bye Bye O.C. I want to give you an idea of who I am, what to expect from future episodes and what Bye Bye O.C. is all about. I also...