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The OTs Gone Rogue podcast is hosted by Melissa LaPointe. Join her as she interviews therapists from around the globe about the trials and tribulations of thinking outside the box and going rogue. Tune in to hear stories about overcoming adversity and thinking outside the box in how OTs are monetizing their knowledge and expertise.

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The OTs Gone Rogue podcast is hosted by Melissa LaPointe. Join her as she interviews therapists from around the globe about the trials and tribulations of thinking outside the box and going rogue. Tune in to hear stories about overcoming adversity and thinking outside the box in how OTs are monetizing their knowledge and expertise.

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Episode 066 | Building Together: Collaborative Power in Program Development with Lindsey Vestal & Lara Desrosiers

2/20/2025
How do you feel about collaboration? Working alongside someone in your field of expertise can be challenging. It requires trust, open communication, and a willingness to adapt. But when done right, collaboration allows you to leverage each other’s strengths, balance out weaknesses, and create something truly greater than the sum of its parts. In this episode, host Melissa LaPointe (she/her) welcomes two exceptional guests: Lindsey Vestal Lara DesrosiersTogether, Lindsey and Lara share their journey of collaboration over the past 18 months, resulting in a groundbreaking project: a trauma-informed pelvic health certification program tailored for OTs. This engaging conversation is filled with humour, impactful stories, and actionable insights. Lindsey and Lara open up about their process, from crafting a comprehensive curriculum to engaging participants meaningfully and balancing virtual and in-person training. They’re candid about the triumphs and challenges they faced, offering listeners an authentic look into their collaborative experience. Whether you’re an OT, an educator, or simply someone who’s passionate about meaningful collaboration, this episode is a must-listen! What You'll Learn: Collaboration is Key:📢 Innovative Tech Talk:The Best of Both Worlds: Transparency Builds Trust: The Power of Feedback:Join Melissa, Lindsey, and Lara for a heartfelt discussion that will leave you motivated to embrace collaboration and innovation in your own work. You won’t want to miss it! OTHER LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Lindsey Vestal (she/her) is the founder of "The Functional Pelvis", the first OT-run pelvic health practice in New York City, which not only provides pelvic health services, but has also been offering accessible training online since 2018. Learn more at functionalpelvis.com Lara Desrosiers (she/her) is a specialist in mental health and pain science, and runs Ontario's "Pelvic Resilience" private practice. Lara integrates trauma-informed care and evidence-based techniques to address the complexities surrounding pelvic health issues. Learn more at pelvicresilience.ca 💬 Join the Conversation We’d love to hear your thoughts on this episode! Share your reflections and connect with our community on Instagram @otsgonerogue 📬 Stay Connected Don't miss out on future episodes and updates. Make sure you're subscribed to our newsletter. otsgonerogue.com Thank you for being a part of the OTGR community. Let’s continue to inspire, innovate, and advocate for inclusive, transformative healthcare so that we not only know better, we do better. Melissa & the OTGR Podcast Team

Duration:00:54:14

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Episode 065 | Navigating Perfectionism and Professional Growth with Lara Desrosiers

2/13/2025
Is it perfect enough? That nagging doubt can paralyze us. Perfectionism doesn’t just demand our best—it demands more than our best, often at a cost. In this episode, host Melissa LaPointe (she/her) has a compelling conversation with Lara Desrosiers (she/her), a trailblazing occupational therapist who has carved a unique path in women's health, pelvic health, and mental health integration. For Lara, this battle with perfectionism isn’t theoretical. Her story is one of constant evolution, from renting space in wellness clinics to becoming a key part of the Guelph Women's Health Associates, all while grappling with perfectionism and embracing the principles of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). Amid the challenges of surgery, motherhood, and career goals, she has managed to carve a path that honors both her professional aspirations and personal well-being. What You'll Learn: Finding Balance:Embracing Imperfection:Staying True to You:Seeking Community: Navigating Social Media:Managing Expectations: Prepare to be inspired by Lara Desrosiers’ reflections on perfectionism, balance, community, and the candid ups and downs of her journey. Let’s dive in! OTHER LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Lara Desrosiers (she/her) is a specialist in mental health and pain science, and runs Ontario's "Pelvic Resilience" private practice. Lara integrates trauma-informed care and evidence-based techniques to address the complexities surrounding pelvic health issues. Learn more at pelvicresilience.ca or on Instagram at @pelvicresilience.ca 💬 Join the Conversation We’d love to hear your thoughts on this episode! Share your reflections and connect with our community on Instagram @otsgonerogue 📬 Stay Connected Don't miss out on future episodes and updates. Make sure you're subscribed to our newsletter: otsgonerogue.com Thank you for being a part of the OTGR community. Let’s continue to inspire, innovate, and advocate for inclusive, transformative healthcare so that we not only know better, we do better. Melissa & the OTGR Podcast Team

Duration:00:52:54

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Episode 064 | Creating Safer Spaces Through Inclusive Healthcare with Mara Levy

11/14/2024
Join us as Mara Levy shares their unique perspective, combining occupational therapy and somatic experiencing, to tackle body image issues and promote greater inclusivity within healthcare. We're thrilled to bring you the latest episode of the OTGR Podcast, featuring an inspiring conversation between our host Melissa LaPointe and the phenomenal Mara Levy 🌈. In this episode, we xplore Mara’s groundbreaking coaching program, which helps individuals overcome body shame and societal beliefs, melding cognitive and somatic approaches for transformative results. We also touch on the importance of inclusive language, addressing implicit biases, and creating safer spaces for marginalized communities. Here’s a sneak peek at what you can expect in this episode: This episode is not just about professional growth; it’s a heartfelt discussion about inclusive and affirming healthcare that aligns with wider societal needs and individual identities. Thank you again, Mara, for the important work you're doing! Resources and Highlights: To learn more about Mara’s approach to body positivity and self-acceptance, or to dive deeper into their work, go to Rainbow Spring Wellness https://www.rainbowspringwellness.com/ 💬 Join the Conversation We’d love to hear your thoughts on this episode! Share your reflections and connect with our community on Instagram at @otsgonerogue 📬 Stay Connected Don't miss out on future episodes and updates. Make sure you're subscribed to our newsletter. https://www.otsgonerogue.com/ Thank you for being a part of the OTGR community. Let’s continue to inspire, innovate, and advocate for inclusive, transformative healthcare so that we not only know better, we do better. Melissa & the OTGR Podcast Team

Duration:00:56:39

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Episode 063 | Creating Your Signature Coaching Program for Maximum Impact

8/1/2024
Welcome to the final episode of our six-part Clinician to Coach Series! In this podcast series, I'm sharing resources and strategies to help you start and grow your coaching business to consistent $5K and even $10K months without overwhelm or burnout. On today's episode, we're focusing on creating a transformative signature coaching program designed to solve your clients' specific problems and deliver tangible results. We'll break down the essential components such as motivating clients, accountability strategies, and fostering a supportive community. We'll also guide you through the four critical stages of program development, from identifying your clients' needs to crafting a compelling title. Whether you're just starting out or looking to scale your business, this episode has all the insights, tips, and strategies to help you create a powerful and scalable coaching program. And remember, it's my mission to get this series into the ears of as many OTs as possible! Meaning if you enjoyed today's episode, please tell a therapy friend and help me to spread the word. If you want to connect with me directly, you can reach out via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email at rogueconsulting.co/contactus. For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don't want to miss any future episodes including the upcoming episodes in the series, make sure you're subscribed to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever else you listen to podcasts.

Duration:00:29:52

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EPISODE 062 | Building a Sustainable Client Growth Engine

7/11/2024
Welcome to the fifth episode in our six-part Clinician to Coach Series! In this podcast series, I'm sharing resources and strategies to help you start and grow your coaching business to consistent $5K and even $10K months without overwhelm or burnout. If you've ever felt the pressure of inconsistent client sign-ups or the burnout from juggling marketing, sales, and client delivery without a clear system, this episode is for you. In today's episode, you're going to hear me talk about some of the many benefits of working 1:1 with coaching clients, including: We'll be discussing the importance of having a well-oiled client growth engine, which integrates both marketing and sales strategies. I'll also share my insights on setting actionable 90-day goals and the significance of a quarterly strategic planning session to keep your business on track. You'll learn how to streamline your client acquisition and retention process with clear, measurable goals and why slow and steady progress is the key to long-term success. And remember, it's my mission to get this series into the ears of as many OTs as possible! Meaning if you enjoyed today's episode, please tell a therapy friend and help me to spread the word. If you want to connect with me directly, you can reach out via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email (simply hit reply to one of our weekly email newsletters). You can also connect with me by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact. For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don't want to miss any future episodes including the upcoming episodes in the series, make sure you're subscribed to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever else you listen to podcasts. And thanks so much for listening to this week's episode of the OTs Gone Rogue podcast!

Duration:00:41:34

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EPISODE 061 | The Benefits of Working 1:1 with Coaching Clients

6/26/2024
Welcome to the fourth episode in our six-part Clinician to Coach Series! In this podcast series, I'm sharing resources and strategies to help you start and grow your coaching business to consistent $5K and even $10K months without overwhelm or burnout. In today's episode, you're going to hear me talk about some of the many benefits of working 1:1 with coaching clients, including: And remember, it's my mission to get this series into the ears of as many OTs as possible! Meaning if you enjoyed today's episode, please tell a therapy friend and help me to spread the word. If you want to connect with me directly, you can reach out via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email (simply hit reply to one of our weekly email newsletters). You can also connect with me by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact. For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don't want to miss any future episodes including the upcoming episodes in the series, make sure you're subscribed to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever else you listen to podcasts. And thanks so much for listening to this week's episode of the OTs Gone Rogue podcast!

Duration:00:24:44

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EPISODE 060 | My Evolving Journey of Yet Again Going Rogue

10/21/2023
🎙️ Exciting news! I'm back with a brand new episode of the podcast! 🎉 In this episode I dive deep into the past 6 months of rapid business growth, sharing my experiences and lessons learned along the way including: 1️⃣ Doubling gross revenue: I discuss how I managed to double my business's gross revenue over a 9-month period and the strategic decisions I made to achieve this impressive growth. 2️⃣ Embracing the CEO role: I reflect on the challenges I faced and the sacrifices I made in order to step into my role as the CEO of my business. I share my journey and the mindset shifts that allowed me to fully own my achievements. 3️⃣ Workflow optimization and systems implementation: I share more on the work I’m continuing to do around improving my workflow, tracking essential metrics, and implementing systems to ensure smoother operations and better outcomes for my clients. If you're a therapist looking to level up your business and make a bigger impact while building a fulfilling life, this episode is for you! Tune in to gain valuable insights and learn practical strategies to flex your entrepreneurial muscles.

Duration:00:33:04

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EPISODE 059 | Navigating the Startup Phase of a Coaching Business

4/18/2023
Welcome to the third episode in our Clinician to Coach Series! In this six-part series, I'm sharing resources and strategies to help you start and grow your coaching business to consistent $5K and even $10K months without overwhelm or burnout. In today's episode, you're going to hear me talk about: And remember, it's my mission to get this series into the ears of as many OTs as possible! Meaning if you enjoyed today's episode, please help me to spread the word. Better yet, take a screen shot, post it to Instagram or Facebook and tag our @otsgonerogue account. If you want to connect with me directly, you can reach out via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email (simply hit reply to one of our weekly email newsletters). You can also connect with me through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact. For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don't want to miss any future episodes including the upcoming episodes in the series, make sure you're subscribed to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever else you listen to podcasts. And thanks so much for listening to this week's episode of the OTs Gone Rogue podcast!

Duration:00:42:25

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EPISODE 058 | Coaching Isn’t Therapy and Consulting Isn’t Coaching

4/3/2023
Welcome to the second episode in our Clinician to Coach Series! In this six-part series, I'm sharing resources and strategies to help you start and grow your coaching business to consistent $5K and even $10K months without overwhelm or burnout. In today's episode, you're going to hear me talk about: If you enjoy today's episode -- and if you're excited about the rest of this series -- I would love to hear from you! You can reach out via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email (simply hit reply to one of our weekly email newsletters). You can also connect with me through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact. For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don't want to miss any future episodes including the upcoming episodes in the series, make sure you're subscribed to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever else you listen to podcasts. And thanks so much for listening to this week's episode of the OTs Gone Rogue podcast!

Duration:00:53:57

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EPISODE 057 | Pulling Back the Curtain on the Dark Side of Coaching

3/20/2023
Welcome to our Clinician to Coach Series! In this six-part series, I'm sharing resources and strategies to help you start and grow your coaching business to consistent $5K and even $10K months without overwhelm or burnout. And we're kicking things off by pulling back the curtain on the dark side of coaching! In today's episode, you're going to hear me talk about: If you enjoy today's episode -- and if you're excited about the rest of this series -- I would love to hear from you! You can reach out via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email (simply hit reply to one of our weekly email newsletters). You can also connect with me through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact. For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don't want to miss any future episodes including the upcoming episodes in the series, make sure you're subscribed to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever else you listen to podcasts. And thanks so much for listening to this week's episode of the OTs Gone Rogue podcast!

Duration:00:37:32

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EPISODE 056 | Sales Tactics + Pricing Strategies That More OTs Should Question

3/13/2023
And we're back, pulling back the curtain on yet another area of business that often has some shady things going on... Today we’re going to be talking about sales tactics and pricing strategies that more of us should be questioning as both entrepreneurs AND consumers. In this episode you’re going to hear me talk about (and question): If you're enjoying my "pulling back the curtain" episodes, I would love to hear from you! I think these are important conversations to have, as uncomfortable as they can be... As always, I'm happy to continue the conversation via DM on Instagram @otsgonerogue or by email (simply hit reply to one of our weekly email newsletters). If you resonated with parts of this episode, take a quick screenshot, share it to your IG stories and tag me, @otsgonerogue. You can also connect with me through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact.

Duration:00:32:44

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EPISODE 055 | When OT Advocacy is the Backbone of Your Recurring Revenue Model with Clarice Grote

3/6/2023
Today we’re rolling out another Rogue Spotlight Interview where we’re featuring an OT who’s thinking outside the box and doing things differently in terms of how they’re using their education and experience to serve their audience. Clarice Grote is an occupational therapist, medicare specialist and health policy consultant based in the United States. She’s also the Founder and CEO of Amplify OT, a company dedicated to educating and encouraging occupational therapy practitioners and students to engage with Medicare policy and advocacy. Now if you’re thinking this episode doesn’t apply to you because you’re not working with medicare or you’re not American, think again. During my interview with Clarice, we’re talking more about her journey as an entrepreneur, her experience with pivoting from an online course to a membership model and the work she’s doing behind the scenes on building out a stronger infrastructure for her business so that it’s more profitable AND sustainable. If you have any feedback or thoughts that you want to share with me OR with Clarice, take a quick screenshot and share with us on IG, tag us @otsgonerogue.com and @amplify_ot. To access Clarice's OT Reimbursement Podcast Playlist and Guide, go to: amplifyot.com/playlist To find out more about her membership, go to: amplifyot.com/membership For the latest show notes and full episodes, make sure you head over to otsgonerogue.com/podcast. If you don’t want to miss any future episodes including upcoming episodes in this series, make sure you are subscribed to the OTs Gone Rogue podcast on apple, spotify or stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts.

Duration:00:37:35

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EPISODE 054 | Are Ascension Models a Load of Crap?

2/27/2023
Today’s episode is an important one because we’re kicking off a series of tough conversations where I’m pulling back the curtain on some of the things I’ve been learning on this journey into the dark side of the online business world. My goal with these types of episodes is two-fold: . Leading to the focus of today's episode, ascension models. BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU’LL DISCOVER: As always, I'm happy to continue the conversation via DM or email! If you have any feedback or thoughts that you want to share with me, take a quick screenshot and share with me on IG, tag me @otsgonerogue.com. You can also connect with me through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact.

Duration:00:33:09

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EPISODE 053 | How to Stop Comparing Yourself to Other OTs

2/20/2023
Have you ever been in a situation where a colleague shares one of their wins -- and while you want to feel happy for them, you instead there's a part of you that cringes on the inside? Or maybe you've had a peer share their successes and instead of feeling inspired, their announcement made you feel bad, like you weren't enough. My friend, you are not alone. Which is why on today's episode, we're doing a deep dive into this idea of comparing ourselves to others, especially in the OT space. In this episode you’re going to hear me talk about: I hope you resonate with parts of this episode and that you're excited for all the great things to come, whether that's our individual achievements or our collective accomplishments as a profession! If you have any feedback or thoughts that you want to share with me, take a quick screenshot and share with me on IG, tag me @otsgonerogue.com. You can also connect with me through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact.

Duration:00:15:10

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EPISODE 052 | Connecting OTs Across the Globe, One Research Article At a Time With Sarah Lyon

2/13/2023
Today’s episode is particularly exciting because we’re getting back into the groove with spotlighting other amazing OTs who are on this journey of going rogue. And we're kicking things off with none other than Sarah Lyon. In 2011, Sarah launched OT potential because she realized the incredible need for a reliable source of quality occupational therapy-related content and resources. As you’re going to hear in this interview, Sarah is on a mission. Through her OT Potential platform, she now has a blog, a podcast and a membership-based journal club -- all geared towards helping OT practitioners from around the globe to make a habit of regularly exploring new OT-related research. Later this month, she’s also launching an OT directory, which we talk more about and let me tell you, I don’t think I’ve ever been so excited to get my name on an OT directory before! Tune into the full episode and you’ll hear us talk about: You can check out Sarah's work by going to https://otpotential.com/ -- and you can use the coupon code ROGUE to get an additional $5 off any of her plans, including the directory that goes live on February 20th. This coupon is valid until the end of April! If you have any feedback, thoughts or questions or if you resonate with anything we shared in today's episode, you can find me on Instagram at @otsgonerogue, through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact. See you next week!

Duration:00:55:10

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EPISODE 051 | Things to Think About Before Entering Into an Affiliate Relationship

2/6/2023
Have you ever thought about being an affiliate for another entrepreneur, where you're promoting their offer in exchange for a commission payment? Or maybe you've thought about taking on affiliate partners for one of your programs or offers? Well, before you take this idea much further, I want you to tune into this episode where I break down eight things to consider before entering into an affiliate relationship. In this episode you’re going to hear me talk about: If you need any help in setting up a successful affiliate system for your offer -- or if you want help in further developing your offer so that you're ready for affiliates, please reach out! And if you have any questions or if you resonate with any of my shares in today’s episode, I would love to hear from you. You can find me on Instagram @otsgonerogue, through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact.

Duration:00:31:58

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EPISODE 050 | My Return to In-Person Services: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

1/30/2023
Are you dabbling in the online space and sometimes feel pressured to go “all in” as a Digital CEO? Or maybe you’re offering in-person services and it feels all-encompassing, meaning you’re wondering how you could possibly take on an online revenue stream on the side? Do you ever wonder if you can have the best of both worlds? Well, after being 100% fully online for the last 4.5 years, today I’m pulling back the curtain on my return to in-person services. In this episode you’re going to hear me talk about: If you resonate with any of my shares in today’s episode, don't hesitate to reach out! I always enjoy connecting with people from our Rogue Community! You can find me on Instagram @otsgonerogue, through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or by going to our contact form, https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact.

Duration:00:41:12

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EPISODE 049 | Are You Making Things Harder Than They Need to Be?

1/23/2023
Are there days where you question if you’re making things harder than they need to be? Or maybe there are times where you’re so in the thick of it, that you don’t even realize there might be an easier way… Well, my friend, you are not alone. And on today’s episode, we’re going to shine a light on times in our business journey where we may very well be making things more challenging than they need to be. We’re also going to explore some reasons on why this is and what we can do about it moving forward. If you resonate with this episode and you have a story about a time where you made something harder than it needs to be, I would love to hear about it! Connect with me on IG @otsgonerogue or through our Facebook page @otsgonerogue or better yet, make a post or create a story and share it to your own social media profile, as a way of bringing your audience along on your journey. Don’t forget to tag me so I can be there to cheer you on! And if you have any questions or feedback on the podcast, please don't hesitate to reach out: https://www.otsgonerogue.com/podcast-contact

Duration:00:44:52

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EPISODE 055 | The Business of Going Rogue

1/16/2023
On today's episode, I'm going to be sharing more about The Business of Going Rogue, our flagship program for the Rogue Community. You're going to hear more about: If you resonate in any capacity with this idea of going rogue, you're going to want to tune in for this episode! To learn more about The Business of Going Rogue, go to https://www.otsgonerogue.com/business And if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out via Instagram @otsgonerogue or via email hello@otsgonerogue.com

Duration:00:44:30

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EPISODE 048 | Finding Your First Clients as a Pediatric Therapist-Turned-Parent Coach with Kylee Leavitt

1/9/2023
Welcome to the first episode of 2023! We’re kicking the year off by re-introducing our “Coaching Conversations” series where I sit down with one of my students and coach them through challenges or roadblocks in their business that many of our listeners may also be facing. Today I have the pleasure of hosting Kylee Leavitt. Kylee is based out of North Carolina, US and her clinical background is in pediatrics. After experiencing a tough transitional period in her life, she’s now using her own journey with a coach to inspire her work as a parent coach and an educator. I’m so excited to have Kylee on the show as we dig deep into client acquisition & marketing and attempt to answer the question “My website is live and I’m really happy with the offer I've created, now what?” BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU’LL DISCOVER : To check out more of Kylee's work -- and cheer her on as she continues to put herself out there, you can go to her website https://www.kyleeleavitt.com/ or give her a follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kyleecleavitt/ If you want to stay in the know with our podcast, go ahead and sign up for our OTGR Newsletter -- we'll send you our most recent podcast episodes, behind-the-scenes details + bonus resources, directly to your inbox! And if this episode resonated with you in any way, I would love to hear from you. Connect with me on Instagram @OTsGoneRogue or drop me an email at hello@otsgonerogue.com.

Duration:01:03:35