The No Film School Podcast

Jo Light interviews documentary and commercial director Brendan Young live from Aspen Shortsfest about his short documentary The Meloneers, which follows the Rocky Ford High School wrestling program in rural Colorado. They discuss how Brendan found the story through a newspaper article, why he spent extensive time in the community before filming, how he balanced planned interviews with vérité moments, and how commercial work helps fund and shape his documentary practice. The episode also covers documentary ethics, collaboration with subjects, building trust before rolling, and Brendan’s advice for first-time documentary filmmakers. In this episode, No Film School's Jo Light and guest Brendan Young discuss... Finding a rural Colorado story through a Denver Post article about Rocky Ford wrestling Why Brendan visited Rocky Ford repeatedly without a camera before filming Treating documentary subjects as collaborators, not just subjects How The Meloneers explores wrestling, family legacy, fatherhood, and small-town change Balancing core interviews, planned scenes, and vérité moments Shooting with a small documentary crew and keeping a minimal footprint Using commercial work to support short documentary projects Partnerships with Futuristic Films, Voyager, Project Play, and executive producer Lindsey Hagan Why the process of documentary filmmaking matters as much as the finished film Brendan’s upcoming documentary about a violin once played by a German Nazi soldier Memorable Quotes: “I view the people in my films in these stories as collaborators.” — Brendan Young, 03:44 “It’s not just building trust, but like having buy-in from these people, making sure that we’re telling this story together and in a way that they want it told is really, really important to me.” — Brendan Young, 04:05 “I think when you can find it, it makes a specific story more universal and that's a more impactful film.” — Brendan Young, 08:05 “Commercial sets were kind of my film school.” — Brendan Young, 21:49 Guests: Brendan Young Resources: The Meloneers on IMDb Brendan Young’s Website Brendan Young at Futuristic Films Voyager Project Play Aspen Shortsfest Futuristic Films Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins speaks with cinematographer Johanna Coelho about building the immersive visual language behind The Pitt. Coelho breaks down how she approached the show’s real-time structure, 360-degree hospital set, handheld camera movement, lens choices, and complex multi-camera choreography to create an ER that feels immediate, intimate, and emotionally raw. She also reflects on her path from France to Los Angeles, becoming one of the youngest DPs to shoot network television, and the collaborative mindset required to lead ambitious productions without losing sight of story or performance. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Johanna Coelho discuss... How Johanna Coelho got started in cinematography and built her career from France to Los Angeles What it means to shoot The Pitt in real time across a single ER shift How handheld filmmaking, long takes, and transition-based blocking shape the show’s immersive style Why Coelho chose the Alexa Mini LF, prime lenses, and a zoom setup to maintain intimacy and flexibility How the team lit a 360-degree hospital set with white walls while protecting skin tones and realism The collaboration between cinematography, production design, lighting, grip, and actors to execute complex choreography How season two pushed the show’s visual perspective and emotional immersion even further The difference between handheld, Steadicam, and Zero-G rigs when designing movement for a scene How Coelho thinks about burnout, leadership, and keeping a calm set during high-pressure television production Why trusting your eye and communicating your vision are essential for emerging cinematographers Memorable Quotes: “I don't have to make a choice. I can just live all of it behind the lens.” “We have to give that same feeling visually for the audience.” “Our master shot is not a wide shot where you see everything.” “Trust yourself. Don't let everyone tell you what to do.” Guests: Johanna Coelho Resources: Johanna Coelho's website Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

GG Hawkins speaks with Kino co-founders Brit MacRae and Daril Fannin about the broken handoff between post-production and release, and how insecure screeners, fragmented feedback workflows, and fear-based distribution norms undermine independent film. They break down Kino’s evolution from an interactive streaming idea into a secure post-to-delivery platform, explain how they built a film fund around de-risked sub-$2 million features, and use Undertone as a case study for aligning budgets, creative ambition, and profitability. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests Brit MacRae and Daril Fannin discuss... Why the current post-production and release pipeline is still built around insecure links, scattered notes, and outdated habits How piracy, leaks, and weak screener security can hurt filmmakers, investors, and distribution momentum The original idea behind Kino and how it pivoted from interactive streaming to a B2B platform for secure screeners, dailies, cuts, approvals, focus groups, and final delivery Why discoverability is one of the biggest problems in independent film, and why indie projects are competing with TikTok and other forms of passive entertainment How fear-based thinking shapes decisions around marketing, exposure, festivals, and distribution What “LVOD” means to Kino and how the company tried to create a window that adds marketing value without cannibalizing TVOD Why MacRae and Fannin believe filmmakers need to think like business builders, not just artists, when raising money How Kino structured its film fund around contained, creatively aligned stories with budgets under $2 million and meaningful de-risking through incentives and exchange rates Why Undertone made sense as a fund project: one location, a contained story, and a production model that matched the script’s scale How equity participation and aligned incentives can help cast, crew, and investors move in the same direction Why iteration, early feedback, and collaborative review should play a larger role in filmmaking, much like they do in tech and animation What kinds of projects Kino is pursuing next, including a Band of Brothers documentary and more genre-focused features Memorable Quotes: “Something’s not working and we’re going to dig into it.” “Fear makes you stupid.” “Coming to the table with great art is table stakes.” “It’s not about the project, it’s about the people you’re surrounding yourself with.” Guests: Brit MacRae Daril Fannin Resources: Kino Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this sponsored episode, GG Hawkins speaks with Eddie AI co-founder and CEO Shamir Allibhai about Eddie AI’s latest release, Eddie v3, which launched on April 14, 2026 ahead of NAB Show 2026. Their conversation explores the new Night Shift workflow, designed to process footage overnight by sorting interviews from B-roll, syncing multicam interviews, logging media, and building a rough cut ready for Adobe Premiere Pro, DaVinci Resolve, or Final Cut Pro by morning. They also discuss Eddie’s expanding role as an AI assistant editor for professional workflows, including docu-style rough cuts with B-roll placement, and the broader questions filmmakers face around creative control, sustainability, curiosity, and the future of storytelling in an AI-assisted post-production landscape. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Shamir Allibhai discuss... Eddie AI’s new Night Shift feature and how it aims to build a structured rough cut overnight Why the company positions Eddie AI as an assistant editor rather than a replacement for Premiere, Resolve, or Final Cut Pro How AI can help with multicam syncing, A-roll and B-roll organization, logging, and assembly edits The difference between AI tools that generate synthetic media and tools built to work from a filmmaker’s real footage Why editing still depends on human taste, timing, emotional judgment, and story instinct How AI tools may help filmmakers handle paid client work more efficiently while protecting time for passion projects The tension between fear and curiosity as filmmakers adapt to new technology How creative professionals can think about money, sustainability, and long-term career support without sidelining the art Why Allibhai sees storytelling as a fundamentally human act, even in a future shaped by AI What filmmakers should watch for around security, ownership, and platform terms when using AI tools Memorable Quotes: “We’re not trying to be another timeline editor, like Premiere, Resolve, FCP.” “When we think about it from the consumer’s perspective, they just care about great stories.” “This is the root of a lot of the fear because we have struggled so hard just to be able to be here.” “In 10,000 years, we will still be sitting around a campfire or somewhere and telling each other stories.” Guests: Shamir Allibhai Resources: The AI Doc Breakdown: Filmmaking in the Age of Uncertainty How to Scale Video Editing With an AI Storytelling Partner Eddie AI The Eddie AI team will be demoing Eddie v3 at NAB 2026 Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Writer-director Lee Cronin joins No Film School to discuss how he approached reimagining The Mummy through the lens of family trauma, mystery, and body horror. In conversation with GG Hawkins, Cronin breaks down the emotional architecture behind effective horror, the challenge of staging fear in broad daylight, and the way Irish storytelling, personal experience, and practical effects continue to shape his work. He also reflects on building a long-term creative partnership, collaborating with horror powerhouses like Jason Blum and James Wan, and the discipline required to keep refining a film all the way through the edit. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Lee Cronin discuss... How Cronin infused The Mummy with mystery, family drama, and horror Why broad daylight can make horror feel even more unsettling The emotional groundwork required to make gore and shock land with audiences How themes from The Hole in the Ground evolved into The Mummy Why character is always the engine of fear in Cronin’s films How Cronin thinks about the “contract” he makes with audiences from the earliest story stage The practical and creative lessons he learned from years of making corporate videos and commercials What it was like collaborating with Jack Reynor, Jason Blum, and James Wan How shooting in Ireland and Spain helped shape the scale and texture of the film Advice for emerging filmmakers on collaborators, restraint, and cutting what does not work Memorable Quotes: “Writing is not hard at all. Knowing what to write is incredibly difficult.” “Nothing is more exciting to me than watching something I’ve created with an audience and hearing them vocalize, scream, drop the popcorn, whatever it might be.” “If something doesn’t work, don’t leave it there.” “Never be afraid.” Guests: Lee Cronin Resources: Lee Cronin’s The Mummy on IMDb Vote for No Film School’s Webby-nominated explainer video Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

GG Hawkins speaks with editors Lam T. Nguyen and Austin Keeling about building the visual language of Mercy, a hybrid screen life thriller directed by Timur Bekmambetov. They break down how editorial shaped not just pacing and performance, but also the film’s digital camera moves, interface design, screen choreography, and collaboration with VFX. The conversation also expands into how texting, phones, and screen-based storytelling can work in contemporary filmmaking, and why the core principles of editing still matter even inside a highly technical workflow. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss... How Lam T. Nguyen and Austin Keeling first came together on Mercy What defines the film’s hybrid “screen life” visual language How the team used early previs to explore a more immersive 3D screen experience Why the Apple Vision Pro became an early point of reference for the film’s digital courtroom design How editorial functioned as editing, design, animation, and virtual cinematography all at once The Premiere Pro workflow they used to manage complex multi-layered timelines Why the team kept the process technically simple with adjustment layers, transform effects, and blur How they decided where the audience should look when multiple story elements were happening at once What the handoff to VFX looked like and why the editorial version had to be nearly final Their thoughts on how texting and phones can be made cinematic in modern films How Mercy balanced futuristic technology with interfaces that still feel recognizable to audiences Why collaboration, adaptability, and saying yes to unexpected opportunities helped shape their careers Memorable Quotes: “We had four weeks to build the previs and all they wanted was in traditional screen life formats.” “The best way to do is simplify it, right?” “The fundamentals still apply as an editor for this film.” “It’s all just using the tools that are available and kind of like using them to your advantage.” Guests: Lam T. Nguyen Austin Keeling Resources: Vote for No Film School’s Webby-nominated explainer video Tickets: Beacon Film Society screening — May 7, New York Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, GG Hawkins speaks with animator and director Julian Glander about making his microbudget animated feature Boys Go to Jupiter for just $30,000, premiering it at Tribeca, building momentum through a 50-festival run, and eventually landing theatrical distribution and a streaming home on HBO Max. Glander breaks down the realities of producing an animated feature outside the studio system, from teaching himself new tools in Blender to embracing the scrappy story behind the film, negotiating festival fees, navigating distribution conversations, and figuring out what comes next after a breakout first feature. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Julian Glander discuss... How Glander and producer Payson made Boys Go to Jupiter with a tiny team and a $30,000 budget Why Blender and open-source communities made an indie animated feature possible What surprised Glander most about audience reactions to the film’s scrappy origins The reality check of premiering at Tribeca without an instant splashy acquisition How a long festival run helped the film build momentum and recoup its budget through screening fees and prizes Why showing up in person for festival screenings and Q&As can make a lasting impact How Cartuna helped shape the film’s theatrical rollout The role of PR, timing, and critical response in helping the film break out theatrically What it means to let go of control during distribution while still protecting the work How Glander is thinking about a second feature and resisting the pressure of “heat” Memorable Quotes: “You really do have to be delusional and not know what’s going to happen.” “I was embarrassed by how scrappy it was but it turned out to be like the thing that brings people in and the thing that makes them love it.” “If you don’t ask for it, you don’t get it.” “Most things are Googleable.” Guests: Julian Glander on IMDb Julian Glander on Instagram Resources: Boys Go to Jupiter on IMDb I Really Love My Husband Screening and QA Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, No Film School host GG Hawkins speaks with director Charlie Tyrell and editors Davis Coombe and Daysha Broadway about The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist. The conversation explores how the team shaped an essay-driven documentary around AI, parenting, authorship, and uncertainty, while also breaking down the collaborative editorial process, the ethics of making a film in real time about a rapidly changing subject, and the analog craft choices that gave the project its tactile visual identity. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss... How The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist uses a filmmaker’s journey into impending parenthood as a narrative device for exploring AI anxiety and optimism Why the team chose an essay-documentary structure while still grounding the film in Daniel Roher’s on-camera perspective The challenges of shaping a documentary whose subject kept changing during production as AI news evolved in real time How Charlie Tyrell, Davis Coombe, and Daysha Broadway each found their way into filmmaking and documentary storytelling The creative and ethical complications of having a co-director also function as a subject within the film How the filmmakers balanced accessibility, complexity, and emotional honesty while making a movie about a massive technological shift The editorial collaboration behind the film, including remote workflows, shared creative decision-making, and leaving ego at the door Why the team intentionally avoided using AI in the film’s creative workflow How Premiere Pro Productions, transcription tools, Blender, After Effects, Dragonframe, stop-motion builds, and practical effects supported the film’s handmade aesthetic Where the guests currently land on the spectrum between AI optimism and AI anxiety as working filmmakers and editors Why the guests believe the biggest question is not just what AI can do, but how people choose to use it Memorable Quotes: “It actively wrestles with it in real time, both thematically and in the way that it was made.” “Everyone kind of just left their ego at the door and showed up to do the work.” “Filmmaking only brings suffering.” “I don't feel like AI is the big bad. To me, the people are the big bad.” Guests: Charlie Tyrell Davis Coombe Daysha Broadway Resources: The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist Synopsis: From the Academy Award-winning filmmakers behind Everything Everywhere All at Once and Navalny, a father-to-be tries to figure out what is happening with all this AI insanity. The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist is a hand-made, eye-opening documentary about the most powerful technology humanity has ever created and what’s at stake if we get it wrong. For resources and ways to join the apocaloptimist community, visit theaidocgetinvolved.com Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

GG Hawkins speaks with filmmaker Pete Ohs for the first installment in a quarterly 2026 series tracking how he releases four films over the course of the year. Using OBEX as the case study, Ohs breaks down the film’s microbudget production, Sundance 2025 premiere, U.S. acquisition by Oscilloscope, and the realities of theatrical rollout for independent films. Their conversation explores how booking works, what filmmaker participation in Q&As can actually do for a release, and where creative energy, audience-building, and sustainability meet during distribution. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Pete Ohs discuss... How OBEX was made with Albert Birney in and around his Baltimore home Why the film’s Sundance 2025 premiere led to a U.S. deal with Oscilloscope What sales agents, distributors, and theater bookers each do in an indie release Why January became the strategic release window for OBEX How theatrical runs expand based on performance, per-screen averages, and momentum Which Q&A appearances felt worthwhile in New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Baltimore What the marketing campaign looked like, including social assets created with Continue Agency How Ohs thinks about audience response, Letterboxd reviews, and the digital release Why preserving energy during release may matter as much as inventing new promotional ideas What Ohs is testing next as Erupcja begins its release Memorable Quotes: “The walk from here to the bathroom is also recovering time.” “They said he couldn't do period pieces on a budget.” “I just love that it's proof that somebody watched it.” “There are limits to the time and the energy, and that you can have all these ideas, but they're just ideas until you kind of do them.” Guests: Pete Ohs Resources: Pete Ohs’ quarterly 2026 distribution experiment series Previous Pete Ohs interviews on No Film School Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Koo and Jourdan Aldredge report from Austin during the 2026 SXSW Film & TV Festival, reflecting on how the event felt different after the convention center overhaul and how the festival’s film and tech worlds collided more directly than ever. They discuss the growing tension between filmmakers and artificial intelligence, the value of human intuition in directing and storytelling, standout panels and screenings, and what Ryan learned while serving on the narrative shorts jury. The episode also highlights how SXSW continues to champion bold filmmaking, practical craft insights, and the importance of in-person creative community at a moment when AI is reshaping the industry. In this episode, No Film School's Ryan Koo and Jourdan Aldredge discuss... How SXSW 2026 felt different on the ground after the festival’s reorganization across downtown Austin Why AI became one of the defining themes of this year’s SXSW conversations, panels, and screenings Ryan’s takeaway from Steven Spielberg’s SXSW appearance and his emphasis on intuition in filmmaking The documentary The AI Doc and how it framed AI through both filmmaking and fears about the future The tension between slick AI-generated imagery and the value of human-made, lived-in artistic choices Ryan’s experience serving as a narrative shorts juror and what he learned from watching all 19 shorts in competition Why short films need to stand on their own instead of only functioning as proof-of-concept features How filmmakers today are reaching an incredibly high level of craft across directing, cinematography, and performance The narrative shorts that stood out to Ryan, including Supper and Souvenir, which won the jury honors Jourdan’s spotlight on Mantis Stream (Like and Subscribe) and why inventive midnight filmmaking still feels vital Boots Riley’s I Love Boosters as a bold opening-night film and a perfect example of SXSW’s creative identity What they learned from SXSW panels on documentary storytelling, virtual production, immersive audio, and emerging filmmaking tools Why film festivals and in-person artistic gatherings feel even more essential in an increasingly virtual world Memorable Quotes: “The human hand of it is the point of art.” “I’d as soon eat nails, then use AI in my films.” “Go to festivals, make friends, make art, mess up.” Resources: No Film School SXSW coverage Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, No Film School host GG Hawkins speaks with editor Sonny Atkins about shaping fear through sound, rhythm, and restraint in the horror feature Undertone. Atkins breaks down how the film’s audio-first concept influenced everything from the script to the cut, why long pauses and musical timing can heighten dread, and how a deeply personal story about grief and caregiving evolved through the editorial process. He also shares practical insights into working scrappy on a low-budget feature, using Premiere Pro’s Productions workflow, speech-to-text, temp sound design, and test screenings to refine both story and suspense. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Sonny Atkins discuss... How Undertone began as an audio-driven concept and why that immediately stood out in the script Why sound design became central to the edit, not just an atmospheric layer The challenge of building horror around what the audience hears instead of what they see How Ian Tuason’s personal experience with caregiving and grief shaped the emotional core of the film Discovering story solutions in post, including the addition of a saved voicemail from the protagonist’s mother Creating distinct sonic and visual worlds between the downstairs living space and the mother’s upstairs room What it took to make a low-budget Canadian horror feature feel polished and cinematic Why Atkins cut his first assembly extremely short, then built the film back up from its essential skeleton How rhythm, blank space, and even drum rudiments became part of the team’s language for suspense Using Premiere Pro’s Productions workflow to keep a feature edit organized and responsive How speech-to-text helped manage ADR, offscreen dialogue, and hundreds of audio files Why editors should mock up sound ideas early for test screenings instead of waiting for the final sound team How Frame.io helped organize notes with timecode-based feedback Why humor can be an important release valve inside horror Career advice on longevity, mentorship, process, and closing the gap between taste and ability Memorable Quotes: “Because in this film, sound isn't just part of the atmosphere, it's the engine of the story.” “A lot of it's about rhythm and where to leave blank space, and that kind of stuff.” “The people who make it in this business are the people who don't quit. It's a longevity game.” “If your focus is really just not about making the work really good and working a lot, you can sort of inoculate yourself against having your heart broken over and over again.” Guests: Sonny Atkins (IMDb) Resources: Undertone on IMDb The Gap by Ira Glass Taylor Mason on editing Him for No Film School Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Writer-director Amy Wang joins the No Film School podcast to discuss her debut feature, Slanted, and the long road from film school to theatrical release. In conversation with GG Hawkins, Wang reflects on leaving Australia for AFI, building a creative community in Los Angeles, learning to write as a practical path to survival in the industry, and what happened after Slanted premiered at SXSW 2025, won the Grand Jury Prize, and eventually landed distribution ahead of its 2026 theatrical release. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Amy Wang discuss... How Fight Club inspired Wang to pursue filmmaking as a teenager in Sydney Why she left Australia for AFI and what it was like arriving in Los Angeles as an international student The real value of film school, especially for community-building and dedicated creative time Why learning to write became the key to sustaining a filmmaking career after graduation How a Black List script helped open doors in Hollywood The emotional and personal origins of Slanted Why body horror and comedy became the right form for exploring race, identity, and belonging How Slanted went from a logline to a financed feature What production and post looked like on a tight timeline before SXSW What it felt like to premiere at SXSW, hear audience reactions, and unexpectedly win the Grand Jury Prize The reality of selling an indie film in today’s market, even after major festival recognition What Wang learned from working with Bleecker Street on the theatrical release Details about her next feature, Crescendo, set in the world of competitive piano Memorable Quotes: “If you don't come from money, if you don't have a famous uncle and you don't want to work at Starbucks for the next three to four years after you graduate, you need to learn how to write.” (12:48) “You can't let the highs be too high and you can't let the lows be too low.” (16:31) “It doesn't matter what I do, it doesn't matter who I am, how I speak, my personality is like, what my thoughts or how intelligent I am, people will always see my face first.” (19:08) “As long as you keep going, as long as you keep learning and changing and growing, I think you don't need to be the best throughout your life to be able to have a career in this industry.” (40:56) Guests: Amy Wang Resources: Slanted official film page Applying for Your O-1 Visa to Work in Film and TV Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, GG Hawkins speaks with editor Harrison Atkins about shaping A24’s How to Make a Killing with director John Patton Ford. Atkins breaks down his path into editing, his holistic “total filmmaker” approach to storytelling, and the editorial challenges of balancing dark comedy, violence, voiceover, and audience empathy around a morally compromised protagonist. The conversation also explores the realities of studio post-production, from long edit timelines and test screenings to cutting in Adobe Premiere’s Productions workflow while collaborating with a London-based post team more accustomed to Avid. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Harrison Atkins discuss... How Harrison Atkins found his way into editing through directing and making his own films Why he thinks of editing as a holistic, dramaturgical part of filmmaking rather than a purely technical role Reuniting with director John Patton Ford after Emily the Criminal What drew him to the multi-tonal mix of crime, satire, dark comedy, and violence in How to Make a Killing How voiceover created both opportunity and endless editorial possibilities in the cut The difference between an indie sprint like Emily the Criminal and the extended timeline of a studio feature How test screenings and audience response helped refine comedy, pacing, and emotional momentum Why the first reel was crucial to getting audiences aligned with a charismatic but morally gray lead The editorial challenge of shaping an underdog around Glenn Powell’s natural confidence and charm How Premiere’s Productions workflow supported a collaborative feature edit with multiple people working simultaneously What it was like cutting the film in London with assistant editors adapting from an Avid-heavy post environment How temporary VFX comps in After Effects and Photoshop helped solve story and joke-building problems inside the edit Harrison’s philosophy of leadership, collaboration, intuition, and staying present as both an editor and director His advice to emerging filmmakers: fail boldly, work small if necessary, and keep making things instead of waiting for permission Memorable Quotes: “I never really considered myself an editor. I still kind of weirdly don't.” (01:19) “The calendar is really a myth.” (06:59) “The difference between a joke that lands and one that doesn't is often microscopic.” (13:30) “Perfection is the enemy of good.” (33:50) Guests: Harrison Atkins Resources: How to Make a Killing Emily the Criminal Total Filmmaker by Jerry Lewis Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recorded live at the 2026 Sundance Film Festival in Park City, this annual Director of Photography Roundtable features No Film School’s GG Hawkins in conversation with cinematographers Lidia Nikonova, Sam Levy, and Maria Herrera. The group discusses their unconventional paths into cinematography—from orchestras and photojournalism to weddings and radio DJing—how they landed their Sundance projects, and why connection, rhythm, and trust matter more than flashy lookbooks. They also break down the tools they used to communicate vision, navigate long dialogue scenes, and adapt to technical and emotional challenges on set. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss… Shooting at the 2026 Sundance Film Festival and hosting at the BraveMaker house Maria Herrera’s transition from music to cinematography and operating handheld for emotionally intense performances Sam Levy’s mentorship under Harris Savides and how that shaped his approach to narrative filmmaking Lidia Nikonova’s journey from photojournalism and the Canon EOS 5D Mark II to AFI and shooting narrative features How each DP landed their Sundance projects through relationships, cold emails, and creative chemistry When to bring visual references to a director meeting—and when to just listen Using tools like Figma to build collaborative lookbooks and visual worlds Why dialogue rhythm and musicality influence cinematography choices Shooting on 35mm with an Arricam ST versus digital on the ARRI Alexa 35 Working with vintage Super Baltar lenses (famously used on The Godfather) for a modern crime thriller Referencing L'Argent by Robert Bresson for insert shots and cinematic economy How to approach 10+ page dialogue scenes without losing visual intention The value of shooting weddings and low-budget projects to build craft and confidence Advice for emerging cinematographers: show up early, trust your vision, and get your reps in Memorable Quotes: “This child will never play a musical instrument ever in her life.” “If you have good dialogues, it's like, okay, here's something.” “Just connect with her.” “Show up at least one hour early… and do not use your phone on set.” Guests: Lidia Nikonova Sam Levy Maria Herrera Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Producer Zainab Azizi joins GG Hawkins to break down her journey from agency mailroom to President of Raimi Productions and producing studio features like Send Help. Azizi shares how she develops original ideas, packages talent, protects projects through shifting studio mandates, and leads with a collaborative producing style. She also discusses mentoring female producers, balancing creative and financial realities in modern filmmaking, and why theatrical success for original films still matters. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Zainab Azizi discuss... How Send Help evolved from a logline in 2019 to a theatrical release Moving the project from Columbia Pictures to 20th and navigating studio mandate shifts Why Sam Raimi was essential to directing the film—and how storyboards helped secure studio confidence Packaging as a producer: attaching directors and actors through agency relationships Casting Rachel McAdams and Dylan O’Brien and building chemistry into the film’s core dynamic The tension between “social media value” and creative talent in casting decisions What Azizi learned in the WME mailroom and how agencies really function behind the scenes Different types of producers (creative, line, financing, studio producers) and protecting the “PGA” credit Her collaborative leadership style and the “three solutions for every problem” rule Mentorship, promoting female producers, and fostering more women-led sets Why theatrical releases for original films still matter in 2026 Developing a Seshu Hayakawa biopic and why his story feels urgent today The importance of sacrifice, networking, and embracing rejection early in your career Memorable Quotes: “My job is to find three solutions for every problem.” “Rejection is just redirection. We celebrate rejections.” “If it scares you, it means you’re headed the right direction.” “You have to put yourself out there.” Guests: Zainab Azizi – President of Raimi Productions and producer of Send Help Resources: LaBelle Foundation (for adopting Cactus the foster puppy) Producers Guild of America (PGA) Producers United Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recorded live from the Sundance Film Festival, GG Hawkins hosts a roundtable conversation with four short film directors premiering work at the festival: Kelly McCormack (How Brief), Anna Baumgarten (Balloon Animals), Ana Alpízar (Norheimsund), and Anooya Swamy (Pankaja). The filmmakers discuss the origins of their films, navigating production across Cuba, India, Canada, and the U.S., working within (and outside of) film school structures, and the deeply personal themes of grief, mother-daughter relationships, disappearance, and survival that unexpectedly connect their work. In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and guests discuss… Shooting narrative shorts on location in Havana, Bangalore, Vancouver, and Los Angeles Returning to Cuba to film Norheimsund after seeking asylum in the United States How Pankaja draws from growing up in the slums of Bangalore and confronting personal memory Making a $6,500 microbudget short inside a real grocery store overnight Building a short film over eight years and resisting the “proof of concept” mindset Working within NYU’s film school structure versus creating outside institutional systems Casting mother-daughter dynamics rooted in real-life relationships Designing color theory, texture, cement, and dirt as emotional language Shooting inside real police stations and navigating bureaucracy while telling stories about it Grief as a “big soup of emotions” and balancing melancholy with comedy Collaborating with ride-or-die creative partners Advice for emerging filmmakers about not compromising and trusting instinct Memorable Quotes: “Dreaming doesn’t cost a thing.” “Choosing oblivion.” “We often live really simple lives in complicated worlds.” “You are allowed not to compromise.” Guests: Kelly McCormack – Director, How Brief Anna Baumgarten – Writer/Director, Balloon Animals Ana Alpízar – Director, Norheimsund Anooya Swamy – Writer/Director, Pankaja Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, GG Hawkins speaks with Madison Jones and Lindsay Grossman, co-founders of The Love List, along with filmmaker Shelby Blake Bartelstein, about what makes a romance script stand out in today’s marketplace. They discuss the origins of The Love List, the evolving appetite for romance across film and television, how to craft undeniable chemistry on the page, and why specificity, vulnerability, and the grand gesture are essential tools for writers hoping to sell in the genre. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss... The “meet cute” origin story behind The Love List and how a shared love of YA romance sparked a professional movement How The Love List curates the best unproduced romance pilots and screenplays each year Why romance remains commercially viable—and why the industry is rediscovering its power The importance of writing what you love instead of chasing market trends How to balance high-concept hooks with emotional authenticity Crafting chemistry on the page through small, specific moments Why vulnerability is the core engine of all great storytelling The art of the grand gesture in romantic storytelling Why television romance (including slow burns and enemies-to-lovers arcs) can be just as powerful as film How executives identify “soul” in a script—and why that’s what ultimately sells Memorable Quotes: “Write what you want to watch. To me, that is the most crucial piece of advice.” “What part of you is this healing?” “You can tell when there’s not a soul in it.” “It’s not about knowing whether or not they’re going to end up together. It’s about how they get there.” Guests: Madison Jones Lindsay Grossman Shelby Blake Bartelstein Resources: The Love List on Instagram - @TheLoveList26 “Change the Prophecy” Short Film Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recorded live at Sundance, this episode features a wide-ranging roundtable on the current state of independent film exhibition. Host GG Hawkins speaks with festival programmers, exhibitors, and platform founders about what’s broken in the exhibition ecosystem, what’s actually working better than people realize, and how community-driven models—from art houses to new distribution tools—are reshaping how films are discovered, shown, and sustained beyond the festival circuit. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss… Why art house cinemas and film festivals remain vital community hubs The realities of audience-building beyond “market festivals” and multiplexes How filmmakers can rethink distribution, touring, and self-exhibition New tools and platforms helping filmmakers navigate submissions and discovery The rise of alternative distribution models, including physical media reimagined Why shorts, community producers, and collaboration matter more than ever How filmmakers and exhibitors can work together more effectively What a sustainable film community could look like in 2026 Memorable Quotes: “Art house cinemas and independent exhibitors and film festivals are thriving because they build community.” “Making movies is like having a baby… then you’ve got to raise it.” “There is such an opportunity on both sides for filmmakers and exhibitors to learn how to work together.” “Independent film is rooted in community and curation.” Guests: Ash Cook – Programmer, Sundance Film Festival; Festival Director, San Francisco Jewish Film Festival; Founder & CEO, Video.Storage Tony Gapastone – Founder & Executive Director, Bravemaker Lela Meadow-Conner – Interim Executive Director, Art House Convergence; Co-founder, The Popcorn List Tyler Knohl – Co-founder, Hiike; Assistant Director, Boston Sci-Fi Film Festival Brynne Norquist – Co-founder & CEO, Hiike Aidan Dick – COO, Video.Storage; Programmer, Frameline Film Festival Resources: Bravemaker – https://bravemaker.org Art House Convergence – https://arthouseconvergence.org The Popcorn List – https://thepopcornlist.com Hiike – https://hiike.com/ Video.Storage – https://www.videostoreage.com Frameline Film Festival – https://www.frameline.org Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we dive into the logistics, strategy, and evolving experience of getting into and attending SXSW. GG Hawkins is joined by No Film School Founder Ryan Koo and a panel of SXSW insiders: Claudette Godfrey, Peter Hall, and Francis Román, who share their personal journeys into programming and illuminate the processes behind one of the most significant festivals in the world. Whether you’re hoping to submit, attend, or just understand the inner workings, this conversation offers clarity on what to expect from the 2026 edition and beyond. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Ryan Koo, and guests discuss... The different paths each SXSW programmer took to join the festival team Why SXSW values first-time filmmakers and how they approach the programming process Practical ways to attend SXSW (volunteering, student discounts, single tickets) Major changes to SXSW 2026, including venue shifts, badge updates, and a new festival layout How to best prepare your submission, including rough cut etiquette and the importance of strong film stills Common myths about festival programming—debunked Why meaningful networking and personal connection at SXSW can shape careers What types of films SXSW is most excited about—and what they’re seeing too much of Memorable Quotes: "If a film can make you laugh in your home alone at 2 a.m. and you've worked a 20-hour day, then it's hilarious." "If you're submitting unfinished, you should have a title card at the very beginning that says exactly where you're at." "We're looking for that director's vision, the fingerprint on it." "You should come to South By, and if you can’t, go to whatever local film festival is going on in your area." Guests: Claudette Godfrey Peter Hall Francis Román Resources: SXSW Volunteer Info Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode recorded live at the Sundance Film Festival, No Film School founder Ryan Koo sits down with Julien and Justen Turner—real-life brothers and co-creators of FreeLance, an indie TV pilot that debuted in the festival’s Episodic Pilot Showcase. The Turner Brothers walk through their journey of building a creative career outside of New York or LA, self-funding their show in Columbus, Ohio, and pulling off a high-production-value pilot in just four days. They talk about their process, influences, and how their authentic, relatable characters came to life through personal experience and community-driven production. In this episode, No Film School’s Ryan Koo and guests discuss… The origin of the episodic pilot category at Sundance and its importance for indie creators How the Turner Brothers’ musical upbringing led to an early love of filmmaking Their decision to self-fund FreeLance instead of attending Sundance in 2023 Turning real-life freelance filmmaking experiences (like wedding videography chaos) into episodic comedy Casting comedians, athletes, and non-actors from social media and commercial work Building a 150-page show bible and planning a multi-season vision The four-day shoot that captured 41 minutes of content, including an improvised scene in a thrifted basement How making content in Ohio allowed the show to break traditional industry molds Advice for filmmakers: choose a date, build your team, and just shoot The surreal moment of getting the Sundance acceptance call (via their mom!) Memorable Quotes: “We kind of realized that the only people we were waiting on was ourselves.” “The more specific we were, the more universal it was.” “We shot a 41-minute pilot in four days.” “This is getting done, and it’s going to be done like this.” Guests: Julien Turner Justen Turner Resources: Dreadhead Films on Instagram dreadheadfilms.com Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices