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Breastfeeding Talk

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Breastfeeding Talk is a conversational podcast that explores the breastfeeding journey with a focus on new motherhood. Stock broker turned lactation consultant, and host, Jacqueline Kincer, IBCLC, CSOM shares with you her best advice for navigating this stage of motherhood with a mix of humor, realness, science, and compassion. On the Breastfeeding Talk podcast, you can expect honest conversations with leaders in breastfeeding health, raw talk about breastfeeding your baby, and most importantly: tips and strategies to create a breastfeeding journey that brings you joy.

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Breastfeeding Talk is a conversational podcast that explores the breastfeeding journey with a focus on new motherhood. Stock broker turned lactation consultant, and host, Jacqueline Kincer, IBCLC, CSOM shares with you her best advice for navigating this stage of motherhood with a mix of humor, realness, science, and compassion. On the Breastfeeding Talk podcast, you can expect honest conversations with leaders in breastfeeding health, raw talk about breastfeeding your baby, and most importantly: tips and strategies to create a breastfeeding journey that brings you joy.

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English


Episodes
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Tongue Tie A-to-Z

7/26/2023
If you've ever wondered why breastfeeding can be such a challenge, or if you've stumbled upon the term 'tongue tie' in your journey as a new parent, this episode is for you. Together with Katherine Baquie from FitNest Mama, we unravel the intricate connection between tongue ties and breastfeeding. Listen in as we unpack the basics of tongue tie, its signs and symptoms in babies, and how it's diagnosed. You'll gain valuable insights on who to consult for an evaluation and the various treatment options available. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: FitNest Mama WebsiteFitNest Mama InstagramFitNest Mama PodcastiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:37:17

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Reimagining Postpartum as a Transformation

7/19/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Arielle Martone to discuss postpartum wellness and healing after childbirth. Arielle is a physical therapist and postpartum wellness coach, who shares her own experiences with postpartum depression, pelvic pain, and breastfeeding challenges. Together, Jacqueline & Arielle examine the lack of focus on mental and emotional well-being during and after pregnancy. They also talk about the importance of listening to your body's needs and allowing yourself time to heal rather than rushing back to work or pre-baby routines. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Arielle’s WebsiteArielle’s InstagramiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:59:46

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Oral Dysfunction & Development from Birth to Later Years

7/12/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Dr. Shereen Lim, a dentist from Perth, Australia who specializes in airway health from infancy to prevent problems like snoring and sleep apnea later in life. Dr. Lim is dedicated to promoting airway health from infancy as an alternative approach to minimize the development of these problems and is the author of the book Breathe, Sleep, Thrive: Discover How Airway Health Can Unlock Your Child’s Greater Health, Learning, and Potential. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Dr. Lims WebsiteDr. Lim’s InstagramDr. Lim’s FacebookiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:01:07:03

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Weaning Tales: Children's book Authors Talk about Toddlers & Weaning

7/5/2023
Join Jacqueline in a unique, collaborative episode where she speaks with several authors of weaning books. Julie Dillemuth shares her process for writing Loving Comfort, a toddler-weaning story. Katherine Havener discusses the inspiration behind Nursies When the Sun Shines, a night-weaning story. Yvette Reid talks about her experience writing Booby Moon and Booby Moon for Two, a tandem nursing weaning story. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: iMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:01:09:16

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Mom Journey: Breastfeeding After Loss

6/28/2023
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions about infant loss and infertility struggles. Listener discretion is advised. Join Jacqueline as she sits down with Sarah Cox, a passionate content creator dedicated to raising awareness about infertility and pregnancy loss. Sarah courageously shares her personal journey through pregnancy and breastfeeding, offering a unique perspective as a mother who has experienced infant loss and fertility struggles. Her unwavering commitment to extended breastfeeding is evident as she successfully nursed all her children past one year. Sarah's story encompasses not only the joys and challenges of breastfeeding but also her emotional journey of weaning and the choices she made regarding lactation after her stillbirth. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Sarah’s WebsiteSarah’s FacebookSarah’s InstagramOur Links: WebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:42:07

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Mom Journey: Embracing the Realities of Breastfeeding with Tongue Tie

6/21/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Melissa Arntt, a soon-to-be mom of 3 and a self-proclaimed chaos coordinator. Melissa shares her journey with her children from pregnancy, through delivery, and their breastfeeding journey. Together, they delve into topics like identifying ties and finding the perfect pediatrician for your family's needs. Melissa works in corporate America as an executive assistant at a Fortune 200 company, but her true passion is lactation care. After her own breastfeeding difficulties, Melissa felt called to help other moms facing challenges in their breastfeeding journeys. She’s a board member of the local chapter of her state's breastfeeding coalition and a certified breastfeeding specialist. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Melissa’s InstagramOur Links: WebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:58:30

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Breastfeeding a Preemie: Expectations & Challenges

6/14/2023
In this episode, we discuss the realities and obstacles of breastfeeding a premature baby. Jacqueline welcomes Jodi Klaristenfield, the founder of FLRRiSH, to share her personal experience of giving birth at 28 weeks due to a life-threatening condition. Gain insights into breastfeeding in the NICU, supplementing with formula, finding support during your NICU stay, and identifying ties and proper sucking and swallowing techniques. Jodi's personal journey inspired her to create FLRRiSH, a comprehensive platform dedicated to providing NICU parent education, empowerment, support, and resources. Tune in to gain invaluable insights and guidance on navigating the beautiful yet demanding journey of breastfeeding a preemie. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: NICU Connection CircleJodi’s WebsiteJodi’s FacebookJodi’s InstagramJodi’s LinkedInOur Links: iMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:55:16

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NICU and Beyond: A Neonatologist's Insights on Supporting Breastfeeding

6/7/2023
In this episode of Breastfeeding Talk, host Jacqueline Kincer engages in a thought-provoking conversation with guest Dr. Susan Landers, whose impressive background includes working full-time as a neonatologist while serving as a speaker for the Texas Department of State Health Services, Medical Director of the Mothers' Milk Bank at Austin, a Fellow in the Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine, and also contributing to the Section on Breastfeeding for the AAP for six years. Together, Jacqueline & Dr. Landers delve into the critical role of breast milk in the NICU and the challenges faced in advocating for its use. They explore the importance of donor milk, the need for informed consent, and the significance of maternal support in making breastfeeding work. The episode also addresses the struggles of working mothers, the cultural shifts required to create a supportive environment, and the essential role of healthcare providers in empowering breastfeeding mothers. With personal stories and practical advice, this episode sheds light on the journey of breastfeeding mothers, fostering understanding and offering valuable insights for both healthcare professionals and new moms alike. In this episode, you’ll hear: iMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:01:03:59

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Untangling Tongue Ties: A Lactation Consultant's Guide to Treating Breastfed Babies with Melanie Henstrom

5/31/2023
In this episode, we had the pleasure of interviewing Melanie Henstrom, an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC) from Baby Bonds, who specializes in tongue ties and has helped close to 2,500 breastfeeding dyads. During our conversation, we delved into various topics, including: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Melanie’s WebsiteMelanie’s FacebookMelanie’s Tongue Tie PDFOur Links: Shop our Amazon StoreWebsiteDiscount on ProductsPODCAST15iMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:48:43

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The New PUMP Act, U.S. Breastfeeding Laws & the Future of Breastfeeding Healthcare Technology with Bethany Corbin

5/24/2023
In this informative episode, host Jacqueline is joined by attorney Bethany Corbin to discuss women's legal rights when it comes to breastfeeding. Many new moms are unsure of their ability to breastfeed in public, at work, and in other places, and Bethany helps break down the laws to empower women in their breastfeeding journey. As a healthcare innovation and femtech (female health technology) attorney, Bethany Corbin is on a mission to help thought-leading companies revolutionize the global women’s health sector. She is the founder of FemInnovation, which helps founders, clinicians, politicians, and advocates transform and disrupt “standard” care delivery for women’s health through specially tailored legal and educational programs, thought leadership, and advocacy. Bethany also founded the first law firm in the U.S. dedicated to exclusively serving women’s health innovators. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Feminnovation WebsiteBethany’s LinkedInBethany’s InstagramAmerican Progress Article - 5 Facts About the PUMP ActDepartment of Health & Human Services OfiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:48:59

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Breastfeeding in Public: Know Your Rights and Boost Your Confidence

5/17/2023
In this informative and supportive episode, Jacqueline delves into the important topic of nursing your baby in public spaces. She discusses the legal protections in place for breastfeeding mothers in the United States and around the world, ensuring that you are well informed of your rights. Throughout the conversation, Jacqueline shares valuable tips and personal experiences to help you gain confidence and feel empowered while nursing in public. This episode is a must-listen for new and expectant mothers, as well as anyone who wants to better understand and support the rights of breastfeeding women. Key Takeaways: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Episode 49: Demystifying Babywearing with Karla CastroEpisode 98: Tips for Breastfeeding While Babywearing with Meagan PaSupplement BundleShop our Amazon StoreWebsiteiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:33:22

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Postpartum Pain & Recovery From Birth with Kath Baquie

5/10/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by women’s health physiotherapist Kath Baquie. Kath provides pregnant and new mothers with exercises, support, and resources to move away from the physical aches & pains of pregnancy, the overwhelm, and the weakness felt after birth. Instead, she helps women to find the comfort and confidence they need to get their bodies and minds strong again. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: FitNest Mama WebsiteFitNest Mama InstagramFitNest Mama PodcastFitNest Mama Postpartum Exercise ProgramFree Postpartum Return to Exercise ChecklistWebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:57:21

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Mom Journey: Finding Joy & Confidence in Nursing

5/3/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Jackie Greco, a mom of two who nursed through a chemical pregnancy and toddlerhood. She had to navigate extended nursing, nursing in public, dairy allergies, and judgment from other moms. This mama powered through it all to find the joy and confidence she needed to have her own fulfilling nursing journey. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: WebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaLow Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping ConsultationLactation Flow FormulaGeneral Breastfeeding ConsultationiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:46:45

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Honest Motherhood: What We Really Need with Libby Ward from Diary of an Honest Mom

4/26/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Libby Ward from Diary of an Honest Mom. Libby is a digital creator, speaker, and mental health advocate with a deep commitment to breaking cycles of trauma & changing the motherhood narrative with honest motherhood. This episode gets real and raw as Libby shares her personal experiences with Diary of an Honest Mom and her postpartum depression journey. She shares how she balanced motherhood and marriage and how social media affects new mothers mentally. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Diary of an Honest Mom WebsiteDiary of an Honest Mom InstagramDiary of an Honest Mom FacebookWebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaLow Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping ConsultationLactation Flow FormulaiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:46:35

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Back Health During Pregnancy & Postpartum with Dr. Betsy Grunch

4/19/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Dr. Betsy Grunch, a board-certified neurosurgeon, and the famous ‘Lady Spine Doc’ on social media. Together, Jacqueline shares about her recent spinal surgery and Dr. Grunch gives some helpful and informative facts about the pelvic floor and the spine during pregnancy, delivery, and postpartum. Dr. Betsy Grunch attended the University of Georgia and completed her Bachelor of Science in Biology. She then went on to the Medical College of Georgia and following that matched in Neurological Surgery at Duke University Medical Center. At Duke, she earned the synthesis spine fellowship from 2010 to 2011. And in 2013, Dr. Grunch returned to her hometown of Gainesville to join the Long Street Clinic where she still works. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Dr. Betsy Grunch’s InstagramWebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaLow Milk Supply Consultation or PumpiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:55:08

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Dental Health from Infancy to Pregnancy & Postpartum with Dr. Molly Hayes

4/12/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Dr. Molly Hayes, an airway-centric dentist, and a mom of four. Molly has given up the practice of traditional dentistry to focus on helping children sleep, breathe, and function better with the healthy start series of appliances. Molly loves educating parents on how to make healthy habits for facial development, and making those things easy and doable for every family. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Dr. Molly Hayes WebsiteDr. Molly Hayes InstagramWebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaLow Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping ConsultationLactation Flow FormulaGeneral Breastfeeding ConsultationiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:41:45

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Preparing for Breastfeeding: Tips for Success

4/5/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline shares the best ways to get breastfeeding help, support, and care for you and your baby. She shares her best tips for breastfeeding success and how to find the right providers. Jacqueline dives deep into preparation for breastfeeding and how to prepare prenatally. She also shares how to get started breastfeeding and the importance of breastmilk. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: WebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaLow Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping ConsultationLactation Flow FormulaGeneral Breastfeeding ConsultationiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:01:01:06

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All Things Pelvic Health with Dr. Tara Sullivan

3/29/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Dr. Tara Sullivan, a pelvic health specialist, discussing everything pelvic health-related. Tara and Jacqueline discuss a variety of topics that sometimes can be overlooked in postpartum. They clear up some common misconceptions and establish a baseline for pelvic health in general. Dr. Tara Sullivan has specialized in Pelvic floor dysfunction, treating bowel, bladder, and sexual dysfunctions. She addresses these issues in postpartum, and how to seek a practitioner near you. Tara also gives some insight to prevent children from bedwetting, and some other great tips for pelvic health. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Dr. Tara Sullivan’s WebsiteBe a Guest on the ShowWebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramBook an AppointmentAdvanced Lactation FormulaLow Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping ConsultationiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:00:54:18

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Treating Oral Ties with Dr. Liz Turner

3/22/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Dr. Liz Turner as they deep dive into the world of ties, treatment, and beyond. Dr. Liz Turner is back for another episode to go even further into ties, diagnosis, and if/when to treat. Jacqueline and Dr. Turner both share their personal experiences with ties and how they navigated their journeys. As a new mom or an experienced mom, it may be challenging to notice if and when your baby has a tie. There may be many decisions to make and you may be faced with pediatric care that doesn’t always agree. Dr. Liz Turner gives some great information on how to tell if your baby has a tie, how to get your dentist on board, and how to go about treatment. This episode gives some great in-depth information on the entire tie process. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Episode 8: How Tounge Tie Impacts Breastfeeding and Beyond with Dr. Liz TurnerBloom WebsiteDr. Liz TurneiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:01:17:49

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Tips for Breastfeeding While Babywearing with Meagan Pa

3/15/2023
In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Meagan Pa, Founder and CEO of Amphiba Baby and creator of her very own baby carrier. Together, they discuss things like how to support milk supply through babywearing, how to bottle feed in a carrier, and how to choose if babywearing is right for you. Choosing the right carrier can get overwhelming for a new mother. Meagan walks through how to choose, when to choose, and how to use a carrier correctly. She also discusses the benefits of babywearing not only for baby but mom too. In this episode, you’ll hear: A glance at this episode: Related Links: Amphibababy InstagramAmphibababy WebsiteAmphibababy FacebookWebsiteDiscount on ProductsInstagramiMOM Podcast If you need a mom friend right now, you’ve come to the right place. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the Show. More from Holistic Lactation: PODCAST15 https://holisticlactation.com/products Shop on Amazonhttps://instagram.com/holisticlactationhttps://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collectivehttps://holisticlactation.com/clinic Thanks for listening & subscribing! Leave us a review

Duration:01:01:39