Girl Doc Survival Guide

Thriving in Medicine: A Conversation with Dr. Amy Oxentenko In today’s episode, we sit down with Dr. Amy Oxentenko, MD, a Professor of Medicine and gastroenterologist specializing in celiac disease and malabsorption. Dr. Oxentenko shares her journey from surviving to thriving in the medical field, emphasizing the importance of self-care, particularly adequate sleep and exercise. She highlights her leadership roles, including her current positions at the Mayo Clinic and the American College of Gastroenterology, and shares insights into fostering diversity and equity in the workplace. Dr. Oxentenko also discusses the pivotal moment in her career influenced by Dr. Julie Silver’s leadership course and the importance of patiently pacing oneself through career opportunities and learning to say no. This episode provides valuable lessons on balancing professional and personal life for sustained success. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Amy Oxentenko 01:07 Thriving in Medicine: Tips and Tricks 04:15 Balancing Family and Career 06:03 The Importance of Self-Care 13:11 Leadership and Career Development 22:22 Fostering an Equitable Workplace 26:33 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Navigating Career and Emotional Intelligence with Dr. Artur Zembowicz In this episode, we welcome Dr. Artur Zembowicz, an accomplished dermatopathologist, medical director, and educator. Dr. Zembowicz shares his insights on emotional intelligence, the importance of mentorship, and the challenges of making judgments in medical practice. He discusses his personal experiences in improving emotional intelligence, dealing with burnout, and the critical role of preparation and adaptability in both career and personal life. The conversation also touches on the intricacies of providing second opinions in dermatopathology and the value of balancing professional commitments with personal interests. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background 01:37 Discussing Emotional Intelligence 03:46 Navigating Career Challenges 07:17 Midlife Crisis and Burnout 11:06 Consultant Dermatopathologist Insights 13:54 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Breaking Free from Burnout: Insights with Dr. Tamara Beckford In this episode, we host Dr. Tamara Beckford, a board-certified emergency medicine physician, burnout coach, and CEO of UR Caring Docs. Dr. Beckford shares her journey into burnout prevention, highlighting strategies for managing emotional wellbeing, work-life harmony, and creating healthier environments for healthcare providers. She discusses the three D's of burnout—depletion, depersonalization, and detachment—and emphasizes the importance of addressing burnout to prevent severe mental health issues. Dr. Beckford also explores the generational differences in medical work culture and suggests practical approaches, such as coaching and self-assessment, to foster harmony and longevity in medicine. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:03 Dr. Beckford's Journey to Burnout Coaching 01:43 Understanding Burnout: The Three D's 02:48 The Impact of Burnout on Mental Health 04:11 Challenges in Healthcare Training and Culture 07:12 Finding Harmony in Medicine 16:48 The Role of Coaching in Burnout Prevention 18:50 Therapy vs. Coaching vs. Friends 22:24 Overcoming Fear and Discomfort 26:27 Visualization and Journaling Techniques 28:08 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

In this episode, Dr. Danielle Ofri, a renowned physician and author with extensive experience at Bellevue Hospital and NYU, delves into the critical issue of medical mistakes discussed in her latest book, When We Do Harm. She provides insights into her journey of understanding the prevalence of medical errors, the emotional toll on healthcare providers, and the importance of balancing professional duties with emotional well-being. Dr. Ofri also shares personal experiences and advocates for systemic changes and honest communication to improve patient safety and care. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:00 Discussing 'When We Do Harm' 01:53 Understanding Medical Errors 03:50 The Human Element in Medicine 07:08 Personal Experiences with Medical Errors 11:35 Emotional Impact and Coping 17:43 Strategies for Improvement 28:29 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

The Emotional Realities of Medicine: Conversation with Dr. Caroline Elton In this insightful episode, Dr. Caroline Elton, author of Also Human, explores the psychological and emotional challenges that doctors face due to high societal expectations and insufficient mental health support. The discussion addresses how these pressures contribute to burnout and the importance of recognizing and accepting imperfections, akin to the concept of a 'good enough mother'. Dr. Elton sheds light on the stresses of balancing a medical career with personal life, particularly for female physicians, and the cultural pressures within medical training and hospitals. The episode also delves into the necessity of emotional detachment for medical professionals, the concept of 'splitting', and the value of systematic, confidential mental health support. It emphasizes the role of senior clinicians in reducing mental health stigma and advocates for open discussions about mistakes and personal growth, benefiting both doctors and their younger colleagues. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:06 The Unrealistic Expectations on Doctors 02:08 Psychological Impact on Doctors 02:34 The Concept of 'Good Enough' 05:14 Gendered Challenges in Medicine 08:02 Medical Culture and Psychological Toll 11:38 The Concept of Splitting in Medical Training 12:34 The Importance of Reflective Practice 13:02 Group Reflection and Its Impact 13:37 The Role of Feedback in Medical Practice 14:50 Addressing Physician Mental Health 16:46 Support Systems for Doctors 19:00 The Importance of Second Chances 20:04 Balancing Personal and Professional Life 21:02 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode, the multifaceted emotional challenges faced by physicians and medical trainees are explored through the expert insights of Dr. Tamara Greenberg, a clinical psychologist specializing in adult mental health. Dr. Greenberg delves into the impact of early trauma, stress management, and the culture of emotional suppression in the medical field. Discussions encompass vicarious trauma, compassion fatigue, and the necessity of emotional integration. Practical advice on coping strategies, the importance of emotional intelligence, and the role of therapy highlight how medical professionals can balance personal well-being with professional demands. Additionally, the episode touches on the value of supportive social networks, understanding personality disorders, and the essential nature of objectivity in therapeutic relationships. Link to Dr. Abigail Zuger's article 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Tamara Greenberg 01:10 Challenges Faced by Medical Trainees 01:49 Experiences with Trauma in Medical Training 04:34 Understanding Vicarious Trauma 10:21 Coping Strategies for Vicarious Trauma 12:25 The Importance of Emotional Awareness 14:17 Addressing Anger and PTSD 15:27 Challenges in Diagnosing Personality Disorders 15:47 Understanding the Whole Person Beyond Symptoms 16:35 The Complexity of Personality Disorders 17:18 The Role of Narcissism in Personality 17:44 The Impact of Trauma and Adverse Experiences 18:47 The Importance of Self-Understanding 22:28 Balancing Professional and Personal Life 24:30 The Value of Therapy and Social Support 30:05 Final Thoughts on Physician Well-being

Navigating Gender Equity, Mental Health, and Personal Resilience in Medicine with Dr. Dara Kass In this comprehensive episode, we join Dr. Dara Kass—strategic consultant, healthcare communicator, and emergency medicine physician—as she delves into her advocacy for gender equity and mental health within the medical field. Dr. Kass sheds light on her efforts to support women in medicine through initiatives like FeminEM and Time's Up Healthcare. The discussion covers the systemic challenges in healthcare, the emotional toll of the profession, and the necessity for work-life balance, especially for parents and those undergoing reproductive health processes. Dr. Kass also shares personal experiences, such as the emotional journey of donating a liver to her son, emphasizing the importance of vulnerability, self-care, and emotional intelligence. The episode concludes with an exploration of peer support, mentorship, and systemic reforms essential for combating burnout and fostering a supportive medical environment. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Bio 01:18 Discussing Emotional Exhaustion in Medicine 01:47 Challenges of Scheduling in Emergency Medicine 03:42 Navigating Job Changes and Work-Life Balance 04:40 Advocating for Maternity Leave and Support 06:30 The Culture of Silence in Medicine 07:47 Shifting Clinical Comfort and Career Focus 09:30 Addressing Reproductive Health Policy 14:42 Personal Struggles and Transparency 17:00 The Importance of Openness and Vulnerability 17:37 Cultural Influences on Emotional Expression 18:03 Emotional Intelligence and Parenting 18:32 The Role of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) 19:17 Self-Advocacy and Asking for Help 20:44 Balancing Work and Personal Life 23:42 Mentorship and Peer Support in Medicine 25:25 Advocating for Reproductive Health in Emergency Medicine 27:32 Final Thoughts on Staying in Medicine

Understanding Sleep with Dr. Christine Won: Importance, Disorders, and Practical Tips In this episode, Christine welcomes Dr. Christine Won, an Associate Professor of Medicine at Yale University and a leading expert in sleep medicine. Dr. Won shares insights on how sleep disorders uniquely affect women, the importance of sleep, common misconceptions about sleep deprivation, and practical strategies for mitigating fatigue. They explore the differences in individual sleep needs, the potential inaccuracies of consumer sleep tracking devices, and the impact of sleep on emotional regulation. Dr. Won also discusses sleep disorder symptoms, the influence of hormonal changes on women's sleep, and provides tips for healthcare professionals dealing with sleep deprivation. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how to prioritize sleep for better health and productivity. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:15 The Importance of Sleep and Misconceptions 03:00 Understanding Personal Sleep Needs 04:30 Wearable Devices and Sleep Tracking 06:35 Stages of Sleep Explained 10:44 Sleep and Emotional Regulation 11:44 Challenges in Medical Training and Sleep 13:05 Fatigue Mitigation Strategies 16:28 Sleep Disorders in Women 20:18 Signs of Poor Sleep Health 22:31 Final Thoughts and Conclusion

In this episode of the Girl Doc Survival Guide podcast, Dr. Jessi Gold, a board-certified psychiatrist and Chief Wellness Officer at the University of Tennessee, discusses the critical issue of mental health among healthcare professionals. Dr. Gold delves into the stigmas that prevent doctors from seeking help for burnout, depression, and anxiety. She shares her personal journey with mental health, including overcoming internalized stigma around psychiatric medication. Dr. Gold offers practical advice on setting boundaries, recognizing early signs of burnout, and finding support systems. She also talks about her new role at the University of Tennessee, aiming to improve wellness through both systemic and preventive approaches. The conversation emphasizes the need for cultural change in medicine to support the mental health of doctors. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:46 Understanding Physician Mental Health 01:11 The Stigma Around Doctors Seeking Help 03:11 Personal Experiences with Mental Health 04:24 Overcoming Internalized Stigma 07:37 Self-Care Practices and Burnout Prevention 11:16 Setting Boundaries and Emotional Capacity 14:46 Advocating for Systemic Change 17:08 Role of Medical Education in Mental Health 20:38 New Role and Future Plans 25:27 Final Thoughts and Book Promotion https://www.drjessigold.com/ Dr. Jessi Gold is a board-certified psychiatrist and Associate Professor and Chief Wellness Officer in the Department of The University of Tennessee. She specializes in the mental health of healthcare professionals, focusing on the high rates of burnout, depression, and anxiety they face. Dr. Jessi Gold is dedicated to destigmatizing mental health issues in the medical community, with a focus on promoting open conversations about burnout, depression, and anxiety among healthcare professionals. She’s passionate about creating systemic change within hospitals and healthcare organizations to make mental health resources more accessible. Dr. Gold frequently advocates for early intervention, self-care strategies, and peer support systems, aiming to shift the culture of medicine to one that prioritizes physician well-being as a critical component of quality patient care.

Introducing the Girl Doc Survival Guide: A Rebranding Journey and Embracing Transformative Experiences in Healthcare and Life In this episode of the newly rebranded podcast, Girl Doc Survival Guide, host Christine and producer Jamie Slevin introduce the rebranding from SEE HEAR FEEL. The conversation delves into the reasons behind the change and discusses the challenges and transformative experiences faced by doctors, particularly focusing on stress, managing work-life balance, and the impact of parenthood. The episode highlights the importance of emotional intelligence, growth mindset, and the evolving perceptions of newer generations of doctors towards healthcare. Christine shares personal stories and insights about motherhood, particularly the challenges she faced raising a child diagnosed with profound deafness, and the shift in her priorities from work to her family. The episode sets the stage for upcoming guests who will discuss innovative approaches to improving physicians' well-being. 00:00 Introduction and Rebranding Announcement 00:18 Meet the Producer: Jamie Slevin 01:10 The Challenges of Medical Training 04:02 Balancing Parenthood and a Medical Career 05:37 Transformative Experiences and Personal Growth 11:35 Work-Life Balance and Flourishing in Healthcare 19:01 The Impact of COVID-19 on Young Doctors 21:44 Looking Ahead: Future Guests and Themes

In this inaugural rebranding episode, Christine announces changing SEE HEAR FEEL to the Girl Doc Survival Guide podcast. The focus will be on navigating the high-stress, high-stakes world of healthcare, aiming not just to survive but to flourish. Featuring discussions with doctors, psychologists, and mental health experts, the podcast will explore the challenges and rewards of a medical career, offering tools and strategies to balance professional duties with personal life. 00:00 Introduction to the Girl Doc Survival Guide Podcast 00:08 The Reality of Survival Mode in Healthcare 00:22 Balancing High Stakes and High Stress 00:32 From Surviving to Flourishing 00:39 Conversations with Experts 01:08 Tools for a Fulfilling Medical Career 01:18 Join Us on This Journey

In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine speaks with Dr. Yemi Sokumbi, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida, who is also the head of medical business development. They discuss key takeaways for innovation in healthcare, including the importance of embracing failure, solving familiar problems, and cross-pollination across medical disciplines. Dr. Sokumbi shares insights from her journey, emphasizing the value of tenacity and perseverance in bringing novel ideas to market, and touches on the nuances of encouraging diversity in innovation, particularly among women. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Yemi Sokumbi 01:47 Defining Innovation in Medicine 02:34 Lessons in Innovation and Failure 05:25 Applying Innovation Lessons to Parenting 07:19 Gender and Innovation 10:14 Challenges and Perseverance in Innovation 12:53 Final Thoughts on Innovation Dr. Olayemi (Yemi) Sokumbi, MD is a dermatologist and dermatopathologist who is currently working at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida where she also serves as Medical Director for Business Development. Additionally, she is involved with medical student and resident education in addition to her clinical work. She completed dermatopathology fellowship in 2014 at UT Southwestern Medical Center and was chief resident in dermatology at the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine. She has won numerous awards, including a 2022 Dean’s Recognition Diversity & Inclusion Award from the Mayo Clinic Alix School of Medicine, a 2018 Outstanding Medical Student Teacher Award from the Medical College of Wisconsin, and the 2013 Richard K. Winkelmann Excellence in Research Award.

This episode of SEE HEAR FEEL is an edited version of an episode from the podcast, The Pursuit of Health with Dr. Eric Fethke. Dr. Fethke and I talk about my journey in healthcare, professionally and personally. The discussion emphasizes the importance of improving doctor-patient connections through empathy and psychological understanding. Key topics include the impact of emotional perceptions in medical interactions, the role of metacognition in healthcare, and practical strategies for physicians to foster meaningful relationships with patients. We highlight the need for incorporating these concepts into medical education to enhance overall healthcare efficacy. 00:00 Introduction 00:49 Personal Experiences and Realizations 02:30 Challenges in Doctor-Patient Relationships 03:49 Emotional Perception and Patient Advocacy 09:19 Metacognition and Its Importance 11:59 Implementing Metacognition in Medical Practice 14:26 The Pursuit of Health and Relationships

In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dennis Proffitt, Commonwealth Professor of Psychology, Emeritus at University of Virginia, shares insights from his expansive research on perception and interoception. Dr. Proffitt discusses how social, emotional, and physical factors influence how people perceive space, including practical examples from his research on the steepness of hills and the impact of physical fitness and companionship. He also delves into the significance of social relationships on perception and explores the emerging field of interoception, explaining how our internal and external perceptions shape our emotions and responses. The episode highlights how both perception and interoception are intertwined with our experiences and actions. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Dennis Proffitt 00:49 Personal Anecdote: NASA and Perception of Hills 02:32 Research Findings: Perception and Physical Fitness 05:04 Social Relationships and Perception 08:40 Understanding Interoception 12:45 Final Thoughts on Perception and Experience

In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Christine J. Ko welcomes Dr. Gregory A. Hosler, president of the Dermatopathology Division of Sonic Healthcare USA. The conversation delves into his recent study on diagnostic discordance in dermatopathology, exploring its implications for patient management and highlighting the importance of ancillary testing and second opinions. Dr. Hosler also shares insights on emotional intelligence, emphasizing the significance of self-awareness and continuous improvement in pathology practice. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background 01:54 Personal Anecdote and Career Journey 02:31 New Role and Responsibilities 03:38 Diagnostic Discordance Study 07:20 Improving Diagnostic Practices 10:55 Emotional Intelligence and Self-Reflection 12:42 Final Thoughts and Conclusion Gregory A. Hosler, MD, PhD is President of the Dermatopathology Division of Sonic Healthcare USA (SHUSA). Before taking this role, he was at ProPath, which joined SHUSA in 2021, and at ProPath, he served as partner, board member, and Director of Dermatopathology. He is a Clinical Professor in the Departments of Dermatology and Pathology at the University of Texas Southwestern (UTSW). He has held numerous leadership roles in local and national societies, including serving on the Executive Board for the American Society of Dermatopathology (ASDP, 2021-present), as President of the Texas Society of Pathologists (2019), President of the North Texas Society of Pathologists (2015), and President of the Educational Foundation of the TSP (2020). Dr. Hosler obtained his B.S.E. in Chemical Engineering at Princeton University and completed his medical degree and graduate work at UTSW in Molecular and Cellular Biology and Immunology (MD/PhD Medical Scientist Training Program). He completed his residency in Anatomic and Clinical Pathology at The Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions (JHMI), and his fellowship in dermatopathology, also at JHMI. Dr. Hosler is very involved in education, teaching at the fellowship, residency, and medical school levels. He is the Director of the ACGME-accredited Dermatopathology Fellowship Program at ProPath. He actively speaks, writes, and directs courses on dermatopathology. He is the editor and co-author of two dermatopathology textbooks - Molecular Diagnostics in Dermatology: practical applications of molecular testing for the diagnosis and management of the dermatology patient (Springer) and Diagnostic dermatopathology: a guide to ancillary tests beyond the H&E (JP Medical Publishers). He is also the author of the melanocytic chapter in Weedon’s Skin Pathology (4th, 5th, and 6th Eds, Elsevier) and many peer-reviewed journal articles and reviews.

In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine welcomes Dr. Benno Torgler, a Professor of Economics at Queensland University of Technology. They discuss Dr. Torgler's fascinating journey from mechanical engineering to economics and his significant research on heart rate variability (HRV). The conversation delves deep into the integration of physiological measurements with psychological and emotional activities, providing insights on how HRV can be used to understand human behavior and stress. Dr. Torgler also shares personal anecdotes and offers practical advice for using wearable technology to monitor HRV. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Benno Torgler 01:09 A Personal Journey: From Engineering to Economics 03:54 Understanding Heart Rate Variability 08:21 Applications and Implications of Heart Rate Variability 12:01 Final Thoughts and Reflections Dr. Benno Torgler, PhD is a Professor of Economics in the School of Economics and Finance as well as Director of the Australian Research Council Training Centre for Behavioural Insights for Technology Adoption (BITA) in the Queensland University of Technology in Queensland, Australia. He is a social scientist that studies human decision making and human nature via integrating economics, social and evolutionary psychology, sociology, and biology. He has co-written an article titled, “Positive affect and heart rate variability: a dynamic analysis” which looks at physiologic measurements (for example, heart rate variability) and self-reported measures to better understand human behavior and interactions. His research is helpful in understanding how to collect such physiologic data like heart rate variability as well as how to model and interpret it.

In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Rosalie Elenitsas from the University of Pennsylvania shares her extensive experience in dermatopathology. She discusses her career journey, the importance of daily consensus conferences, learning from junior colleagues, and managing work-life balance. Dr. Elenitsas also offers valuable advice on building a support system, continuous learning, dealing with errors, and the significance of simple yet effective practices in both professional and personal life. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:12 Personal Anecdote: Learning to Ride a Bike 02:08 Advice for a Successful Career 05:15 Work-Life Balance and Support Systems 08:52 Dealing with Errors and Continuous Improvement 13:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Dr. Rosalie Elenitsas, MD is the Herman Beerman Professor of Dermatology and Pathology and the Director of the Penn Cutaneous Pathology Services since 1999 at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Elenitsas has been a faculty member at Penn since 1991 and has been director of the Dermatopathology Fellowship Program since 1998; she recently transferred the directorship to Emily Chu just this year. She has published more than 200 manuscripts/chapters, and has given more than 100 invited lectures. She is associate editor of Lever's Histopathology of the Skin and the past president of the Pennsylvania Academy of Dermatology and past president of the American Society of Dermatopathology (ASDP). She received the Nickel Award for teaching in Dermatopathology by the ASDP, and has also been elected to the Academy of Master Clinicians at Penn Medicine, a coveted honor for practicing physicians in the Penn health system.

In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Gauri Agarwal, an associate professor and associate dean of curriculum at the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, discusses the importance of integrating visual thinking strategies into medical education. Dr. Agarwal shares a touching anecdote about a hospital chaplain during the pandemic to explore the intersection of humanity and technology. She explains the origins and applications of visual thinking strategies in healthcare, highlighting the benefits in empathy, communication, and cognitive flexibility. Dr. Agarwal also reflects on what it means to be human in the age of artificial intelligence, emphasizing the irreplaceable role of love and true human connection in medicine. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Gauri Agarwal 00:53 A Touching Pandemic Anecdote 02:12 The Intersection of Humanity and Technology 03:31 Visual Thinking Strategies in Medical Education 09:08 Integrating AI in Medical Training 11:55 The Role of Humanities in Medicine 12:41 Final Reflections on Humanity in Medicine Dr. Gauri Agarwal, MD received her MD from the University of Miami in 2000 and trained in internal medicine at the University of Pittsburgh. She is currently an Associate Professor of Clinical Medicine and the Associate Dean of Curriculum at the Miller School of Medicine at the University of Miami. Her research interests include the impact of visual thinking strategies on medical education. She also has a passion for the medical humanities. In 2017, she received the Leonard Tow Humanism Award from the Gold Humanism Honor Society. The Gold Foundation also supported her recent work exploring the intersection of the humanities with artificial intelligence. Show notes Exploring the Intersection of Humanities and Technology in Medicine with Dr. Gauri Agarwal In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Gauri Agarwal discusses her background and current roles at the University of Miami, with a focus on the integration of visual thinking strategies in medical education. She shares a touching anecdote about a chaplain's dedication during the pandemic, highlighting the human elements that technology cannot replace. The discussion delves into the importance of empathy, communication, and the humanities in medicine, particularly in the context of artificial intelligence. Dr. Agarwal outlines the methodology of visual thinking strategies and their impact on medical students, stressing the need for human connection and reflection in healthcare. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Gauri Agarwal 00:52 A Touching Pandemic Anecdote 02:11 The Intersection of Humanity and Technology 03:29 Visual Thinking Strategies in Medical Education 08:57 The Role of Humanities in Medicine 11:35 Final Reflections on Humanity in Medicine

Managing Burnout and Continuous Learning with Dr. Alejandro Gru In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Alejandro Gru, an esteemed dermatopathologist and professor, discusses his strategies for managing burnout, including family support, travel, and exercise. He emphasizes the importance of continuous learning through interactions with trainees and colleagues, and openly shares his approach to handling and learning from errors in his field. Dr. Gru also talks about his experience with therapy and the value it adds to his personal and professional life. 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Alejandro Gru 00:51 Avoiding Burnout: Strategies and Insights 03:09 The Importance of Continuous Learning 04:43 Dealing with Errors in Dermatopathology 09:45 Final Thoughts and Personal Reflections Dr. Alejandro Gru is the Leonard C Harber Professor of Dermatology and Director of Dermatopathology at Columbia University Irving Medical Center. He was previously at the University of Virginia, where he was Professor of Pathology and the Dermatopathology Section and Fellowship Program Director. He attended the Universidad de Buenos Aires, School of Medicine and did residency at Washington University in Saint Louis in Anatomic and Surgical Pathology. He has completed dermatopathology and hematopathology and surgical pathology fellowships. He is an expert in skin lymphomas and melanocytic pathology and currently serves as the President of the United States Cutaneous Lymphoma Consortium.

A Conversation with Dr. Phillip McKee: Balancing Passion, Work, and Wellness In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, I reconnect with Dr. Phillip McKee, a renowned dermatopathologist and author. We discuss Dr. McKee's career, his experiences with burnout, and the role his wife played in helping him manage his workload. Dr. McKee reflects on the challenges of saying no, the importance of giving 100% effort in one's work, and the impact of relationships on well-being. We also delve into handling misdiagnoses and staying updated in the medical field. Dr. McKee emphasizes the need for dedication and passion in one's profession while acknowledging the inevitability of human error. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:06 Discussing Burnout and Work-Life Balance 04:11 Challenges in Dermatopathology 09:50 Importance of Relationships and Personal Wellbeing 12:43 Final Thoughts and Advice Dr. Philip McKee is a Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists and received his medical degree from Queens University in Belfast, Northern Ireland.He trained in pathology at the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast and completed a dermatopathology fellowship at St. John's Hospital for Diseases of the Skin in London. He has authored and edited many books, including the amazing Pathology of the Skin. And that edition that I fell in love with won several medical book awards. He was awarded the Elson B Helwig Lecture Award in 2003 by the American Society of Dermatopathology. He is married to a retired cytopathologist, who was also a Professor at Harvard Medical School. She is now a full-time artist. He also has four adult children with very varied interests.