The Way Out | A Sobriety and Recovery Podcast

Comedian and person in long term Recovery Patrick Holbert shares on his at times uneven journey to #Recovery that included two sober bottoms on top of the bottom that got him into #Recovery in the first place. Patrick is proof positive that recovery gives us the opportunity to rediscover our gifts, talents and abilities and use them to create meaning and purpose in our lives. Laugh along with us as we #RecoverOutLoud and find the funny parts of Recovery #ListenUp. Reach out to Patrick Holbert and learn more about her work: https://www.patrickholbert.com/ Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: The Tender Bar: A Memoir by J. R. Moehringer - https://a.co/d/aNsT9wd The Recovering: Intoxication and Its Aftermath - https://a.co/d/1P2sGf7 Best piece of Recovery advice - To thine own self be true. I Don't Wanna Be An Asshole Anymore by The Menzingers - https://youtu.be/TQBG7wAVWAA?si=VfBvI_cLGsKAAULg Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Author and person in long term recovery Caroline Beidler is back along with her Mom and retired Social Worker Diana Dalles who share about their upcoming book You Are Not Your Trauma: Uproot Unhealthy Patterns, Heal the Family Tree. The book offers guide posts to help you with your own trauma and this episode provides helpful insight into trauma, how it effects us individually, how it's passed on generationally and is a testament that family healing is possible #ListenUp Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: You Are Not Your Trauma: Uproot Unhealthy Patterns, Heal the Family Tree by Caroline Beidler and Diana Dalles - https://a.co/d/bqP2Aa0 Best pieces of Recovery advice: Diana - Be yourself Caroline - Your life has value and purpose Song recommendations: Caroline Break Every Chain by Tasha Cobbs Leonard - https://youtu.be/ucY6NwQTI3M?si=GdIRGaT9RmmKyDg1 Diana I Want to Dance with Somebody by Whitney Houston - https://youtu.be/eH3giaIzONA?si=YNaJfQtaHb6OzzRp Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Person in long term sobriety and author of the book Spirit Led Sobriety, Paulette Kengg unpacks a lot of tough lessons learned and a lot about God and all His wonderful ways. Her openness and honesty are appreciated, and through her Spirit Led Sobriety Facebook group you can connect with her if you feel so led! We can all use all the help we can get on this journey to self discovery and wellness! It takes grit to keep on seeking until you find what works for YOU #ListenUp Contact Paulette: spiritledsobriety@gmail.com Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol, Find Freedom, Discover Happiness, and Change Your by Annie Grace - https://a.co/d/0j33kofH Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "Quit future trippin'" Song that symbolizes recovery: Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen - https://youtu.be/IxuThNgl3YA?si=xZ_PJeLUMR30_cVi Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Author & Professor Emerita Patricia A. Roos shares on the loss of her Son Alex to Opioid Use Disorder and the advocacy work she's doing with organizations like Mobilize Recovery. Her new book, Surviving Alex: A Mother's Story of Love, Loss, and Addiction is part social examination of the factors that contribute to and exacerbate substance use disorder and part memoir of a Mother's loss of her son. All of this makes for an enlightening and touching discussion so #ListenUp. Contact Patricia A. Roos and learn more about her book Surviving Alex: A Mother’s Story of Love, Loss, and Addiction - https://www.patroos.com/ Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Unbroken Brain by Maia Szalavitz - https://a.co/d/04BTXZZE Best pieces of advice: You don't get over it you just get used to the idea that you won't get over it Grief doesn't lessen, however your life can grow and move forward Songs that symbolize Recovery to Pat: Forever Young by Bob Dylan - https://youtu.be/Frj2CLGldC4?si=44X0XtLnnnMqYnM7 Wiz Khalifa See You Again ft. Charlie Puth - https://youtu.be/RgKAFK5djSk?si=WDF9DyEBae7FdIPY Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Woman in long term recovery, coach and Author of Recovering in Recovery Shelby John shares her Recovery journey with us in truly enlightening fashion. Shelby shares how she hit a bottom ten years sober, and most instructive, how she Recovered from that sober bottom. Now Shelby helps other sober women do the same as a coach and with her new book. We submit everyone can benefit from the Recovery truth in this episode so #ListenUp. Reach out to Shelby and learn more about her work: https://shelbyjohncoaching.com/ Recovering In Recovery: The Life Changing Joy Of Sobriety by Shelby John - https://a.co/d/05XvJErz Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker - https://a.co/d/059pT1ZL Songs that symbolize Recovery to Shelby: The Champion by Carrie Underwood - https://youtu.be/HgknAaKNaMM?si=wi_cB9-88p59K9AS Girl on Fire by Alicia Keys - https://youtu.be/J91ti_MpdHA?si=RBSarxBtYfmEpyXH Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Reach out to Angela and learn more about her work: https://angelapugh.com/ Recovery Literature (Addiction Fiction): Killing Hurt by Will Thatcher - https://a.co/d/3o7YXjV Best Pieces of Recovery Advice: Sit down shut up. Mind your own business. Songs that symbolize addiction and Recovery to Angela: Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine - https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?si=LtLgUVtFq_x9ILHs Away from the Sun by 3 Doors Down - https://youtu.be/DDK5qGlLT8s?si=LHeaYAwN6hEvhVbS Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Ashley Wright has faced almost any obstacle you can imagine. The journey has not been an easy one, yet her dedication and commitment to her own #Recovery show us all what is possible if you make the decision to do whatever it takes. We hear about the restoration in her life, how she cultivates stronger bonds than ever, and the myriad of ways that she gives back to her community today. We're sure you will all agree that Ashley is a true inspiration, so #ListenUp Contact Ashley: ashley@mnwitw.org Book Recommendation: The Bible Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "If you're not uncomfortable, you're not growing." Song that symbolizes Recovery: Overcomer by Mandisa - https://youtu.be/b8VoUYtx0kw?si=hotgva3s5w8lVpVW Resource Link: Wellness in the Woods - https://mnwitw.org/ Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Alcohol-free life coach and person in long term Recovery RJ Zimmerman shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point as well as how he helps others live a full and rewarding lives without alcohol. RJ invites us to embrace the uniqueness of our individual Recovery journeys and find the pathway, tools and help that we need in order to achieve and maintain rewarding and enduring #Recovery so #ListenUp Reach out to RJ Zimmerman, host of the untapped keg podcast and alcohol-free life coach: https://www.untappedkeg.com/ Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: Atlas of the Heart - by Brene Brown - https://a.co/d/1SBFYXs Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Embrace the uniqueness of your Recovery Song that symbolizes Recovery to RJ: She Hates by Me Puddle of Mud - https://youtu.be/BYE4CVhVkhw?si=hw4afhx_hpt99UBV Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Person in long term Recovery and author of the upcoming book A Sober Companion Constance Todd Smith shares what she's learned along her journey to & through #Recovery to this point with over 3 decades of sobriety experience, strength & hope. Her story underscores an important truth many of us experience: As we traverse our individual recovery journeys, if we lean into the work we're called to do, we'll continue to evolve & grow into the people we're called to be #ListenUp Reach out to Constance Todd Smith and Learn More About A Sober Companion: https://www.constancealignment.com/ Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Each Day a New Beginning: Daily Meditations for Women by Karen Casey - https://a.co/d/i2Oq3mN Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Turn it over to your higher power. Songs that Symbolizes Recovery to Constance: Many Rivers to Cross and I Can See Clearly by Now Jimmy Cliff - https://youtu.be/fjW5f7i5EwE?si=ju8aIVDT4Z8FMo-P https://youtu.be/MrHxhQPOO2c?si=SvXKFSii0Y06OgNv Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Boston 2%, the Author of Fire And Ice: The Meth Bible shares a vivid retelling of his miraculous and outrageous story of affliction and redemption which is sure to keep your interest piqued. Boston delves into some dark topics such as Spiritual warfare, gang stalking, psychosis, and more. As Boston would say, "Buckle up passengers, it's gonna be a bumpy ride." We ask you to be self aware as you listen, and if you need it, give yourself a break. ***TRIGGER WARNING*** #ListenUp https://buff.ly/3FCBOOH Contact Boston: Boston2prct on TikTok or at Faithsrun9@gmail.com Book recommendation: The Holy Bible Best Advice: Believe in yourself. Song that symbolizes recovery- Almost sober by Ian Loveless- https://youtu.be/PBw_008YUZU?si=R57LupXAxLO7ARcc Resources: Fire and Ice: The Meth Bible by Boston Bornagain (Author), Sandra Lee (Editor), Steve Oliver (Illustrator) - https://a.co/d/ce3524c Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Jefferson Tabler shares on what led him to relapse after 8 years in #recovery and what drew him back again to the program and God . Jefferson learned many lessons when he once again choose the recovery lifestyle. We also hear all about his new project called Felons Hideaway which empowers Recovery in people through fitness. We can all learn a thing or two from his mistakes, as well as his successes so #ListenUp https://buff.ly/3FCBOOH Contact: Jefferson Tabler on FB Book recommendation: Amazon.com: Done with That: Escape the Struggle of Your Old Life by Bob Merritt - https://a.co/d/diIcrYs Best piece of Recovery Aadvice: "In recovery, there's a lot of Pigeons, but not a lot of Eagles. Soar with the Eagle's!! Don't peck in the sand with the Pigeons." Song that symbolizes recovery: Shake it Off by Taylor Swift - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM Resources and donations: www.felonshideaway.com Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Jessica C. shares her journey to and through #Recovery to this point with genuine humility and honesty which makes her story all the more relatable and instructive. Today she is a Mom and mental health nurse due in no small measure to her 12 Step program combined with therapy. Jessica is proof positive meaningful and enduring Recovery is possible and worth the work so #ListenUp . Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: A. A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Best piece of Recovery advice: Not all suggestions in the rooms of Recovery are good suggestions. Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jessica: Love Broke Through by TobyMac - https://youtu.be/44l9PRI4c2M?si=UkkDOEy0xrTZ9Vdk Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Roz Pichardo is a survivor of gun violence who faced her fear and trauma and found purpose and healing through service to her community. She's on the ground, loving on her "Sunshine's", cleaning up the streets, offering support, harm reduction supplies, food, and love. She's reversed over 2,000 overdoses with Naloxone. She advocates for better policies and works with families to solve murder cases. She's an angel walking the earth and a whole lot of fun so #ListenUp. Contact Roz: operationsaveourcity@gmail.com Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation - In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Dr. Gabor Mate https://drgabormate.com/book/in-the-realm-of-hungry-ghosts/ Best piece of advice - Don't judge and be kind. Song that symbolizes recovery to Roz: Redemption Song by Bob Marley & The Wailers - https://youtu.be/yv5xonFSC4c?si=bb0F7PcIq3qZcfHJ Resources: OPERATION SAVE OUR CITY - https://www.facebook.com/OperationSaveOurCity/about Sunshine House Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Person in long term Recovery Leah Kortman candidly shares her journey to and through recovery with us. We learn about how one invitation to a peer support training led her down an ever evolving road of education and service to others. From Peer support services, to overdose prevention calls, harm reduction work and being on the front lines of developing recovery friendly workplaces, Leah really shows up and shows out for this #Recovery community so #ListenUp. Contact Leah- harmreductionislove@gmail.com Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson - https://a.co/d/0LgugJt Best piece of Recovery advice - "Assume nothing, it makes an ass out of you and me." Song that symbolizes recovery to Leah: Journey - Don't Stop Believin' https://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs?si=S07iwGFIMxjKVivz Resources: FindTreatment.gov 211 Hotline for essential community services - United Way - https://www.211.org/ Massachusetts Overdose Prevention Helpline - massoverdosehelpline.org Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Speaker, person in long term Recovery, and Author of 2% Chance, Dean Otto was paralyzed after a truck hit him while cycling and had a 2% chance of walking again. Against all odds, he ran a half-marathon within a year alongside his doctor and the man who hit him. Dean credits this miracle to the practice of forgiveness he learned through his sobriety journey. Dean shares his remarkable Recovery journey and how the 12 Steps are at the center of his life to this day #ListenUp. Reach out to Dean and learn more about his work: https://deanottospeaking.com/ Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Around the Year with Emmet Fox - https://a.co/d/0j3MfAX Best piece of Recovery advice: Keep it simple Song that symbolizes Recovery to Dean: The More I Drink by Blake Shelton - https://youtu.be/A3MGfJ3eMGA?si=GWBySlHlV3RIrqhn Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Person in long term #Recovery, Founder and President of Blue Prints for Recovery, and host of Night of Recovery Chris Dreisbach shares his journey to and through Recovery this point with a disarming mix of wit, humor and humility. His passion for serving the Recovery community is only matched by his unwavering belief that Recovery is possible and your story is your greatest asset #ListenUp. Reach out to Chris Dreisbach and learn more about his work including: Founder and President of Blue Prints for Recovery Host of Night of Recovery https://chrisdreisbach.com/ Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Meditations by Marcus Aurelius - https://a.co/d/gcWsbjU Advice - Go with the flow. Song that symbolizes Recovery to Chris: High for Now by Mike Miz - https://youtu.be/B6CF-tpUAc4?si=bsv02xSBQsOYkxKw Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist 6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Chas Smith is not only a person in long term #recovery, he is also a rapper that goes by the name Colicchie! His raw and sometimes gut wrenching, but always inspiring lyrics have touched the lives of so many people who suffer from substance use disorder. Chas talks about his life, fatherhood, his music and his purpose. You do NOT want to miss this kids so #ListenUp. Chas Smith, aka Colicchie: Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: It Works How and Why: Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions of Narcotics Anonymous - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/4001?NA-It-Works-How-and-Why-Hardcover Best pieces of Recovery Advice: Honesty is essential. Do not do this alone! Song that symbolizes recovery to Chas: Shot in the Dark - https://youtu.be/qBzRoqkHFXo?si=NFgPz3vJRxvAim5j Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist 6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Kelly Wallace is a person in long term #Recovery, sexual abuse survivor and advocate, and host of the Recognize Our Power Podcast . Kelly Recovers Out Loud with us with an emphasis on what helped her get well, what keeps her well, and the value of reclaiming our power through embracing our stories in an effort to help others do the same so #ListenUp. Reach out to Kelly and learn more about her work: https://www.kellywallace.org Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Stash: My Life in Hiding by Laura Cathcart Robbins - https://a.co/d/dWdsZeS AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book AA Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions Best piece of Recovery advice: Rejection is God's Protection Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kelly: Beautiful Day by U2 - https://youtu.be/co6WMzDOh1o?si=FLqyZP3oc5Hy9i3u Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

Arlina Allen is a person in long term #Recovery, Founder of the Sober Life School, Hypnotherapist, host of The One Day At A Time Podcast and The Self-Help Junkie Podcast, and Author of the upcoming book "A 12-Step Guide for Skeptics". Our good friend Arlina shares on her journey to and through Recovery to this point, how the 12-Step program and fellowship changed everything for her as well as a wealth of Recovery wisdom. In other words, what it's all about! #ListenUp. Reach out to Arlina and learn more about her fantastic work: The One Day at a Time Podcast: https://odaatchat.com/ The Self-Help Junkie Podcast: https://sites.libsyn.com/510253 The upcoming book by Arlina Allen: A 12-Step Guide for Skeptics Happy Soul Soap & Candles: https://happysoulsoapandcandle.com/ Recovery Literature (quit-lit) Recommendations: A.A. Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions A.A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Find self-compassion. Song that symbolizes Recovery to Arlina: Unstoppable by Sia - https://youtu.be/cxjvTXo9WWM?si=iJSxm0iM-3xJc4KQ Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd

Author of the new book "When I Stop Fighting: The Unexpected Joy of Getting My Head Out Of My Ass" and person in long term #Recovery Daryl Dittmer shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with us. Daryl also shares some serious Spiritual and Recovery truths along the way, not the least of which is how staying "small" is the key to a happy life in #sobriety #ListenUp. Reach out to Daryl Dittmer and learn more about WHEN I STOP FIGHTING: The Unexpected Joy of Getting My Head Out of My Ass: https://www.daryldittmer.com/ daryl@daryldittmer.com Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The Ten Commandments by Emitt Fox - https://a.co/d/9ILTvbb Best piece of Recovery advice: If you want to stay sober, stay small (humble, teachable) Song that symbolizes Recovery to Daryl: Time by Pink Floyd -https://youtu.be/JwYX52BP2Sk?si=yY666ASQ0Pxbr5Wo Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd