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Pragmatic is a discussion show contemplating the practical application of technology. Exploring the real world trade offs we look at how great ideas are transformed into products and services that can change our lives. Nothing is as simple as it seems.

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Australia, QLD

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Pragmatic is a discussion show contemplating the practical application of technology. Exploring the real world trade offs we look at how great ideas are transformed into products and services that can change our lives. Nothing is as simple as it seems.

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English


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54: Midland Resource Recovery

6/25/2024
In 2017 during an Odoriser decontamination procedure in West Virginia, two people were killed when it unexpectedly exploded. Barely a month later, a similar procedure at the same site led to a second explosion, killing someone else. We examine how poor hazard analysis and legal interference led to yet another fatality...right in front of the eyes of the investigators on site. With John Chidgey. Formal Report: Midland Resource Recovery ExplosionMidland Resource Recovery Factual Update (PDF)Improving Reaction Hazard Management (PDF) News Releases and Articles: Chemical Tank Explosion in Barbour County Kills Two Employees Plus One Severely InjuredOne Dead After Another Explosion at Midland Resource RecoveryMidland Resources Recovery Explosion Kills 2, Injures 1McDonald Volunteer Fire Chief Laid To Rest After W.Va. ExplosionWidow Blames Natural Gas Odorization Company for Husband’s DeathCSB releases final report on explosions at Midland Resource Recovery FacilityMidland Resource Recovery Explosion 2017Second Fatal Explosion at Midland Resources Recovery General Information: About Midland Resource RecoveryThe Growing Importance of Mercaptans Sodium Hypochlorite (PDF)Principles of Natural Gas Odorization (PDF)Attorney-Work Product Privilege Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r', Steven Bridle and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring and Ian Gallagher.

Duration:00:28:01

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115: Use Sparingly Use Wisely

6/5/2024
Scott Willsey returns to pull apart the Google AI Overviews feature, the risks of trusting LLMs and Generative AI and the OpenAI Scarlett Johansson saga. Also John's returning to the USA in September and embracing Dumb Watches along with a host of other updates. With Scott Willsey and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced John’s Coming Back to America: (VOTE HERE) Arizona September 2024 | Vote Here for Meetups SubStack Referenced Articles: You Convinced Me Not To Buy A TeslaFact vs Truth: AI Edition - John Chidgey’s SubstackTechDistortion Parallel Posting in Substack Merchandise and Spotify Integration: The Engineered Network StoreThe Engineered Network linked on Spotify Links of Potential Interest: Is Substack Notes a ‘Twitter clone’? CEO Chris BestFriends with BrewsRaycast AICitizen Eco-Drive AW0050-82E Steel Sports WatchGoogle I/O 2024 AI experiences in SearchOpenAI Just Gave Away the Entire GameGoogle’s AI Overview is flawed by design, and a new company blog post hints at why | Ars TechnicaWhat happened with AI Overviews and next stepsBritannica Global Edition 2016, 30 Vol Set Hardcover Jan 01, 2016Encyclopaedia BritannicaScarlett Johansson’s Statement (YouTube)Core Intuition Episode 600 Two Robots Talking to Each OtherManton Reece Yesterday’s AI Thoughts Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r', Steven Bridle and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring and Ian Gallagher.

Duration:01:38:23

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114: Monopoly (Not The Game)

4/15/2024
Vic and John discuss southbooth cooling progress, the lack of Apple Vision Pro internationally, Johns new Electric Ride on Mower, briefly about cricket and finally the US DoJ Anti-Trust case against Apple. With Vic Hudson and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced TechDistortion Referenced Articles: 47 At A Test Match FinallyAnti-Trust Links of Potential Interest: What Is Prism Correction in Eyeglasses?Ryobi: 48V 30" 50Ah Brushless Ride-On Lawn MowerOP3 Project Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto, Chad Juehring and Ian Gallagher.

Duration:02:00:35

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53: Callide C Blackout

3/30/2024
In 2021 the Callide C Power Station experienced a unit failure that tore the turbine-generator apart, resulted in hundreds of thousands of premises losing power, and cost hundreds of millions to repair. We look at how design errors and ultimately a lack of information led to the incident escalating out of control, when it could have been recovered. With John Chidgey. Formal Reports: Callide Unit C4 Turbine Generator Failure 25 May 2021 (PDF)Animation of the Callide Unit C4 incidentTrip of multiple generators and lines in Central Queensland and associated under-frequency load shedding on 25 May 2021 (PDF) News Releases and Articles: CS Energy releases report into 2021 Callide C4 Unit FailureCS Energy releases technical report into 2021 Unit C4 incidentDr Sean Brady to lead independent investigation into Callide incidentBattery failure led to power plant mass outageBoth units trip at Callide C on Wednesday 13th January 2021Statement regarding IG PowerIntergen voluntary administrationReport says Callide C4 incident “could not have been anticipated”Callide explosion blamed on battery charger failureCallide Power Trading taken to court over system failureCS Energy says insurers won’t agree to $300m claim over power stationJim Soorley stands down from CS EnergyCS Energy Post about Incident on LinkedIn Super-Critical Boilers: Super-Critical Boiler Technology (PDF)Supercritical FluidsSupercritical Coal Plants Electrical Engineering References: Hydrogen-cooled Turbo GeneratorReverse Active Power Protection (ANSI 32P) Court Action: Alleged failure to obtain regulatory approval to operate a generating systemNotice of Filing: Australian Energy Regulator v Callide Power Trading Pty Ltd (PDF)Coal generator to face court over blackouts caused by catastrophic explosion General Information: Callide Power StationStanwell Power StationTarong Power StationCallide Power StationCS Energy: Water Management NOTE: Minor Corrections in audio updated: 31st March, 2024 Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto and Ian Gallagher.

Duration:00:50:52

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113: Whack Me In The Face

1/24/2024
Vic joins John to go discuss the new iPhone 15 Pro Max Lenses for photos and video, using the Meta Quest 3 and trying out the Fuji Real3D Camera vs iPhone 15 Pro Max Spatial Videos in anticipation of the upcoming Apple Vision Pro. With Vic Hudson and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Links of Potential Interest: EVSE: Electric Vehicle FiresFujiFilm FinePix Real3D CameraNomad Goods: Modern Leather CasePragmatic Electric Episode 10: SuperCharger BlitzIs This The Show? Episode 5: Pennywise In The Back Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto, Chad Juehring and Ian Gallagher.

Duration:01:02:32

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10: SuperCharger Blitz

12/30/2023
After a huge uptick in Electric Vehicle sales in Australia, Tesla responded with a blitz of new SuperChargers throughout Australia but they weren't alone. We look at how Queensland fared as multiple companies push new DC Fast Charger infrastructure forward in an attempt to keep up with surging demand. With John Chidgey. Links of Potential Interest: Queensland Government: Electric Vehicle Charging Sites Support Pragmatic on Patreon

Duration:00:16:48

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52: Colonial Pipeline

12/9/2023
In 2021 many of Colonial Pipelines IT systems were locked by malware and out of caution they shutdown the fuel pipelines feeding nearly half of the Eastern US leading to chaos at the gas pump and a state of emergency being declared. We look at how poor off-boarding hygiene led to an easily preventable cyber-attack. With John Chidgey. Hearing: Hearing Before the Committee on Homeland Security House of Representatives TranscriptThreats to Critical Infrastructure: Examining the Colonial Pipeline Cyber-Attack (PDF)Charles Carmakal Statement from Hearing (PDF) General Information: Colonial PipelineColonial Pipeline Ransomware AttackHow Three Major Cyber Attacks Could Have Been PreventedWhat IT security teams can learn from the Colonial PipelineEvolution of the Chief Information Security OfficerUS Fuel Pipeline Hackers StatementDarkSideDarkSide Leaks Press Center (X)DarkSide Ransomware Gang Behind Pipeline Hack QuitsTSA Renews Cyber-Security Guidelines for PipelinesDHS Announces New Cybersecurity Requirements for Critical Pipeline Owners and OperatorsFederal Motor Carrier Safety AdministrationEmergency Declaration for 17 States Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring, Dave Jones, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto and Ian Gallagher.

Duration:00:26:12

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112: A Mixed Bag

11/7/2023
Vic joins John to go through a mixed bag of topics including the two most recent Apple Events, selling lenses, the new 5x iPhone Pro Max Lens, Johns day job company being potentially bought and split as well as the Soundbooth and some conference speaking. With Vic Hudson and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Links of Potential Interest: Apple Event: October 30Apple Event: September 12Nomad Goods: Modern Leather CaseACRNA Conference 2023Is This The Show? Episode 3: John’s Buried in the Sound Booth Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Dave Jones, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto and Chad Juehring.

Duration:01:00:37

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51: I35 West

8/27/2023
The I35W bridge over the Mississippi River carried 140,000 cars every day. Inspections in 1999 and 2003 showed damage to support plates that was dismissed as unimportant at the time. We look into how poor design checking and assumptions led to the bridge collapsing in 2007, costing the lives of 13 people. With John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Only a Handful of T-Shirts Left! Reports: Collapse of I-35W Highway Bridge Minneapolis, Minnesota August 1, 2007 (PDF) General Information: I-35W Mississippi River bridgeURS CorporationSverdrup & ParcelGusset Plate Articles: Design errors factor in 2007 bridge collapseNTSB releases final reportDespite final NTSB report, some still have questions Videos: Inside a Catastrophic Minneapolis Bridge Collapse (YouTube) Litigation: NTSB is wrong about cause of bridge collapseLast Minneapolis Bridge Collapse Lawsuit Settled For $52.4 Million Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring, Dave Jones and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto. With thanks to Joe Stariha for the topic suggestion.

Duration:00:36:00

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44: Value

8/19/2023
The concept of value has always struck me as odd. Let's pull apart what it actually means, how human it is, and what actually matters when thinking about value. With John Chidgey. Links of potential interest: Value Definition Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring, Dave Jones and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto.

Duration:00:06:33

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111: Virtually Augmented

7/13/2023
Vic joins John to look at the history of Virtual Reality, Mixed Reality and Augmented Reality as we pre-assess the pros and cons of AR and VR and the upcoming Apple Vision Pro. With Vic Hudson and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Links of Potential Interest: 3D DisplayAutostereoscopyVergenceAccommodation (vertebrate eye)Vergence-Accommodation ConflictVirtual RealityReality LabsList of Virtual Reality HeadsetsWhat is the Difference Between AR, MR, VR, XR? Headsets Pre-2000: Jaron Lanier’s EyePhoneVPL EyePhone VR CompareVirtual Reality Demo From 1990Virtual Boy Headsets 2015 to Present: Oculus RiftMicrosoft HoloLensHoloLens 2HoloLens 2 — Pricing and OptionsHoloLens 2 ShowcaseOculus QuestQuest Hand Tracking v2.1Quest 2Oculus QuestMeta Quest Pro Apple Vision Pro: Apple Vision Pro Display SpecsApple Vision ProApple Vision Pro’s EyeSight Feature Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Dave Jones, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto and Chad Juehring.

Duration:02:06:35

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50: 737 MAX Ethiopian Air

4/22/2023
Five months after Lion Air 610 crashed, another 737-MAX went down with a similar cause. However the official report was at odds with two other internationally respected investigative organisations. We dig into the detail of how the AOA Sensor was claimed to have failed, and review checklist discrepancies to extract fact from opinion as to what most likely triggered this horrible chain of events. With John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Celebrating Causality’s 50th Episode!! Previous Episode: Causality Episode 33: 737 MAX Reports: EAIB: Aircraft Accident Investigation Report B737- MAX 8, ET-AVJ December 2022 (PDF)US Comments: ET302 Report March 2022 (PDF)US Comments: Response to EAIB Final Report (PDF)BEA: Accident du Boeing 737 immatriculé ET-AVJ et exploité par Ethiopian Airlines survenu le 10/03/2019 près de BishoftuBEA: Incidents to the Boeing 737 - 800 registered F-GZHO operated by Transavia France on 07/02/2018 at Norwich (United Kingdom) and 08/02/2018 at Paris-OrlyBEA: Incidents to the Boeing 737 - 800 registered F-GZHO operated by Transavia France (PDF)ICAO Annex 13: Aircraft Accident and Incident Investigation (PDF) General Information: Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302Addis Ababa Bole International AirportJomo Kenyatta International AirportRotation (Aeronautics)Ground Proximity Warning SystemBoeing 737 MAX GroundingsFederal Aviation AdministrationImpact of the COVID-19 Pandemic on AviationFinancial Impact of the Boeing 737 MAX GroundingsICAON1 and N2March 10, 2019 Historical Weather at Addis Ababa Bole International Airport, EthiopiaET-AVJ Flight Tracking and HistoryCollins AOA Systems (PDF)Auto-Throttle and Auto-ThrustB737 Autothrottle (A/T) Normal and Non-Normal OperationsAirworthiness Directives Articles: The BEA Weighs In: Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302Controversy Surrounds Final Report on Ethiopian Air Flight 302More Omissions In Ethiopian 737 MAX ReportUS NTSB Criticises Ethiopian MAX ReportHouse passes bill to reform plane certification process after two Boeing 737 Max crashesGovernment of Canada introduces additional requirements to allow for the return to service of the Boeing 737 MAX - Canada.caEASA Decision Not to Adopt FAA AD 2020-24-02 (PDF) Regulations: Aircraft Certification Reform and Accountability ActFAA Proposes New Policy that Would Fulfill One of the Key Requirements of the Aircraft Certification, Safety, and Accountability Act | Federal Aviation AdministrationPost MCAS Law ChangesBoeing 737 Airworthiness DirectivesAirworthiness Directive 2018-23-51 (PDF)Airworthiness Directive 2020-24-02 (PDF)FAA: Boeing 737 MAX Reading RoomTransport Canada: Boeing 737-MAX-8 Litigation: Boeing to pay more than $2.5 billion to settle criminal conspiracy charge over 737 MaxBoeing Charged with 737 Max Fraud Conspiracy and Agrees to Pay over $2.5 BillionBoeing Directors Settle Shareholder Lawsuit Over 737 MAX Crashes For $237.5 MillionBoeing: Directors to face investor lawsuit over fatal crashesBoeing, FAA slammed in House report over deadly 737 Max failuresBoeing agrees deal with families of Ethiopia crash victimsBoeing to compensate victims in Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX crash Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Chad Juehring, Dave Jones and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto.

Duration:00:52:07

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110: Apple Watch Evolution

1/26/2023
With some initial discussion of the Twitter Appocalypse and M2 Mac Mini, John and Vic dive into the Apple Watchs evolution since 2015 to present and discuss whether or the newest Apple Watch design can be thought of as the ultimate Ultra. With Vic Hudson and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Celebrating Causality’s 50th Episode!! The TEN Store is NOW Open! Related Episodes: Pragmatic Episode 69: It’s ComplicatedPragmatic Episode 76: Banned Links of Potential Interest: Apple Watch FandomApple WatchList of Apple WatchesApple Watch Compare Models Technical Specifications: Apple Watch Series 7Apple Watch Series 8Apple Watch UltraISO22810:2010 Horology: Water-resistant watchesDIN EN 13319 Diving Accessories Ultra Watch Bands: 49-mm Black/Grey Trail Loop49-mm Ocean Band Extension49-mm Midnight Ocean Band GPS: Everything You Need To Know About GPSGPS New Civil SignalsGPS Frequency BandsGPS signals Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Kevin Koch, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared Roman, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Dave Jones, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto and Mark Oates.

Duration:01:46:22

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49: Carmel Fireworks Explosion

1/18/2023
A fireworks company in Western Australia that had been in business for nearly a century, were preparing for a fireworks display in their packing shed when one ignited and set off a fire and an explosion. Onlookers were shocked when there was a subsequent explosion that was so big it was heard 30 kilometers away leaving the facility in ruins. With John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Celebrating Causality’s 50th Episode!! Reports: Report of the investigation into the fireworks accident at Carmel, Western Australia (PDF)Fire and Explosions at a Fireworks Storage Depot (PDF) Links of Interest: Department of Mines, Industry Regulation and SafetyExplosives Magazine Storage and UseNet Explosive QuantityClass 1 Dangerous Goods Explosive Substances and ArticlesCardile Fireworks News Articles: Carmel fireworks incident report has global implicationsPerth fireworks factory explodesA Fireworks Factory Exploded In Perth’s Hills (VIDEO) About Pyrotechnics: The Illustrated Dictionary of Pyrotechnics (PDF)List of Pyro Chemicals and TermsDisplay Fireworks GlossaryPyrostar GlossaryFireworks Stars and Shells GarnituresAll you wanted to know about fireworks fuses Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Kevin Koch, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Dave Jones and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto. With thanks to Heather Shaw for the topic suggestion.

Duration:00:29:04

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9: Tesla Enhanced AutoPilot Part Two

1/6/2023
In the last two days before Christmas in 2022, my Model 3 received a free trial for 30 days for Enhanced AutoPilot - a feature that costs $5,100 AUD. With a week to trial the features, in this episode we look at Auto-lane change and Navigate on Autopilot, with a final conclusion about Enhanced Autopilot as a whole. With John Chidgey. Links of Potential Interest: Tesla: Autopilot and Full Self-Driving CapabilityQueensland Government: Demerit Points Schedule Support Pragmatic on Patreon

Duration:00:20:15

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8: Tesla Enhanced AutoPilot Part One

12/28/2022
In the last two days before Christmas in 2022, my Model 3 received a free trial for 30 days for Enhanced AutoPilot - a feature that costs $5,100 AUD. With a week to trial the features, in this episode we look at Auto-park, Summon and Smart Summon. With John Chidgey. Links of Potential Interest: Tesla: Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability Support Pragmatic on Patreon

Duration:00:15:02

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7: Tesla Christmas Update 2022

12/22/2022
In the last two days before Christmas in 2022, my Model 3 received the annual Christmas Update from Tesla. We look at the highlights and the lowlights of Tesla updates, this one included...along with a holiday message. With John Chidgey. Links of Potential Interest: Tesla to backflip on removal of radar sensors for electric-car autonomous tech Support Pragmatic on Patreon

Duration:00:08:37

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48: Instituto Goiano de Radioterapia

11/18/2022
When a radiation therapy machine was left behind during a move between buildings in central Brazil, it set in motion a series of events that would lead to one of the worst radiological incidents in history. We look into how bureaucracy and misdiagnosis cost four people their lives and how the actions of a concerned mother with no medical experience, saved the lives of countless more. With John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Create your own Credited Soundbite Official Report: The Radiological Accident in Goiânia (PDF) Links of Interest: Goiânia AccidentIGR - Instituto Goiano de RadiologiaTeletherapy CapsuleBecquerelThe Goiânia IncidentCaesiumGray Other Reports and Articles: The most rambling and insane nuclear accident in history (Italian)Doctors and the radioactive accident (Portugese)Notes on nuclear energy. What lawyers should know about nuclear technology (Spanish)Goiânia Brazil 1987 - Rick On TheaterCaesium Radiation Goiania Brazil - 1102The blue powder entranced…then it killed…The Response to Technological Accidents: The Case of Radioactive Accident in Goiania (PDF) (Portugese) News Articles: Victims of Radiation Ostracised in BrazilA Brazilian burglar stole a capsule…The Perception of Individuals Involved in the Accident With Caesium-137Two Radiation Victims DieThe Goiâna Incident - NCT Magazine Related Incidents: List of orphan source incidentsSamut Prakan radiation accidentOrigin of Cobalt-60 traced to Delhi University1962 Mexico City radiation accident Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Kevin Koch, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Jared, Joel Maher, Katharina Will, Dave Jones and Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto. With thanks to Shane O'Neill for the topic suggestion.

Duration:00:33:09

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6: Monto to Rockhampton

10/30/2022
A road trip episode of Pragmatic Electric, I drive from Monto to Rockhampton to visit some friends, then to the Capricorn Coast and back to Monto in a day in my Model 3. With limited infrastructure to charge, how close will I cut it? With John Chidgey. Links of Potential Interest: MontoRockhamptonYeppoonEmu ParkMount Morgan Support Pragmatic on Patreon

Duration:00:11:19

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109: Soundbite Workshop

10/16/2022
Following Johns appearance on Episode 100 of Podcasting 2.0, John is joined by Dave Jones to workshop the soundbites tag enhancements, as well as touch on BitCoin and Crypto strengths and weaknesses in the longer term. With Dave Jones and John Chidgey. This show is Podcasting 2.0 Enhanced Create your own Credited Soundbite Related Articles: Podcast LightningPodcasting 2.0Podcasting 2.0 Addendum Links of Potential Interest: Podcasting 2.0 Episode 100Shared Soundbites proposal on GitHubExample Server application using the standardWebsite sourceDemo websitePodcastindex.orgDeveloper Documentation for the podcastindex.org APIPodcast Index GitHubPodcast Namespace GitHub: A wholistic RSS Namespace for Podcasting Support Pragmatic on Patreon Episode Gold Producers: 'r' and Steven Bridle. Episode Silver Producers: Mitch Biegler, Kevin Koch, Shane O'Neill, Lesley, Kellen Frodelius-Fujimoto, Jared, Legion Podcasts, Joel Maher, Katharina Will and Dave Jones.

Duration:01:36:38