Milo Time

Rocky the Cat; Rocky nudging; Daryl wondering if Rocky knows who Lisa is; Lisa beiieves that Rocky recognizes her; Milo's pre-school at Garfield Temple in Park Slope, Spacious classrooms; Milo two years at pre-school; Anita was one of Milo's teachers; Milo's Small Paul underwear; Kids' tighty-whities with cartoon drawings; Milo's question to Anita; Anita relating the story to Alana and me

Upper West Side, Lisa and Dave's anniversary, Bacchanal at Dave and Lisa's wedding, Daryl underdressing at Dave and Lisa's rehearsal dinner, Dressing like Marc Rosenthal, The Conversation movie, Young Milo loved Ace Ventura, Became Milo who loved foreign films and films with no plot, New York City movies, French Connection, Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Marathon Man, All fail the Bechdel Test, Gene Hackman, Roy Scheider, Sounds of New York City, Shots of New York City in the `1970s, Francis Ford Coppola, Cindy Williams, Robert Duvall, Teri Garr, Gene Hackman listening to an audio recording, Repeating snippet of audio, "He'd kill us if he had the chance," He'd kill US if he had the chance, Letterbox'd, Family joke concerning inflection, Playing the inflection game with Max and Alana, We all liked the movie and the twist on that one line, @milotimepodcast,

Upper West Side, Feedback @milotimepodcast, Text from Courtney concerning kung fu episode, Courtney and Milo were together four years in a row at PS 321, Statistical anomaly, Courtney found the Milo Time podcast, Milo would start each day by picking Courtney up, Milo was Courtney's prince, Even very young Milo was a very special guy, Please let us know your thoughts about Milo or the podcast, Milo attended PS 321 K-5, PS 321 as the center of our neighborhood in Park Slope, Was always amazing to see families descending on the school each morning, School sat in the middle of the bicycle tire, Playground is quite a sight, Playground was a bench press away from being a prison playground, No safety measures in place, Playground packed to the gills, Milo would play football or basketball with his friends in the playground, Multiple games going at once, across each other, Carlos Pena as PS 321 playground legend, Carlos super friendly, strong, enthusiastic, fun force of nature, Carlos asking for playdates, Carlos such a good and physical athlete, Carlos becomes a phenomenal baseball player, Played at Missouri and then Indiana State, Kids climbing snowbanks to grab basketball rims, No apparent concern for safety, Milo brought and lost roughly half a dozen footballs at the school playground, No concern for lost footballs

Mother's Day, Ralph Kiner, Max turning 23, Upper West Side, Isabel Hillman, Visiting each other in the hospital when Isabel and Max were born, Stuffing Isabel into a bassinet, Happy Mothers' Day to all, Whale Rider movie, Low Rider, Milo and Max taking baths together, Max and Milo playing Whale Rider in the tub, Whale Rider movie, Movie review, Whale rider movie resonates with us with respect to Milo, Milo as a bit of a whale rider himself, Contributing beyond what is obvious, Leading in subtle ways, Milo as an essential component of his communities, Quieter person assuming a role by virtue of their character, Whale Rider actress in Game of Thrones, Let me know @milotimepodcast if you watch Whale Rider

Upper West Side, Henry Hillman, Airplane, Leslie Nielsen, Ft. Tilden, Breezy Point, Jacob Riis Park, Ft. Tilden baseball complex, Gil Hodges Bridge, Belt Parkway, Ft. Tilden remote, Ft. Tilden complex provides fields for all ages, Amazing milkshakes at the ice cream truck, Milo loved a chocolate milkshake, Alana also loves all things chocolate, Going to Peter Luger before going to sleepaway camp, Also go to the Ft. Tilden milkshake truck right before leaving for camp, Maximum calories, Milo switched from baseball to tennis, Milo and me playing tennis during Covid, NYC shuts down public courts, Jeff Amaro opens a tennis training complex in Breezy Point Queens, Breezy Point next to Ft. Tilden, Ice cream truck open during Covid, Feeling like bandits, Milo having two milkshakes the first day of tennis training in Breezy Point, Ice cream truck was a patch of normalcy in a crazy world, Impossible not to think about the things that happened in the late Summer 2020 without the specter of what hit us in November 2022, Milo's diagnosis, Everything from that time and forever after is tainted with the diagnosis, Big Green Egg, Hillman/Cohen family in our house for our first use of the BGE, Those days now have a special meaning to us, Lonely existence because of Covid, and then doubly lonely and horrifying to have someone treating and immunocompromised among us, Try a milkshake from the Ft. Tilden ice cream truck to honor Milo, Sweet Lefty, Jared Fontaine, The Idea of Machines

Upper West Side, New York Knicks, New York Rangers, Lisa as high school basketball player, Isabel Hillman as basketball player, Lisa surprised to learn the Knicks are good, Jalen Brunson is a superstar, 2024 feeling like 1994 when the Knicks went to the NBA Finals and Rangers won the Stanley Cup, Operation Pancake a ridiculous game, Max still trying Operation Pancake on his friends, Lying flat on the bed and trying to alarm the boys when they entered, Max doing Operation Pancake to a friend in college and doing it to Daryl recently, Milo being dismissive but still enjoying it, Boys bad at hiding when they were younger, Karl Havoc in I Think You Should Leave, Jake and Aaron Tapper and The Murderer's Name, Rollo Tomassi, LA Confidential, Ridiculousness of the bit got them laughing, Milo couldn't play it to cool it was so silly, Check your bed tonight, Do an Operation Pancake yourself and tell us about it @milotimepodcast

Upper West Side, Both studios sound good, Summer plans, Maine, Contentedness in Maine, Good times in Maine, Lisa sort of grew up in New York City, Lisa's diminishing patience for New York City in the Summer, Milo's Spanish studies, Spanish verb tenses and pronouns, Curb Your Enthusiasm tu v. usted, Larry David making the tu v. usted joke as a comedian, Milo loved the tu v. usted distinction, Milo making the usted joke, Vosotros doesn't get used or taught in many places, Vostros exists but is almost never used, Tiny slice of opportunity for Vosotros, Conjugating verbs in Spanish, Milo loving the vosotros pronunciation, Vosotros raises many questions, Listeners in Spanish-speaking audience asked to weigh in on vosotros, Isabel and Max may have vosotros insight, Walk down vosotros lane

Studio Henry, Henry Hillman, New York Mets, David Hillman's Mets fandom, Yankee Stadium, Citifield, Shea Stadium, Citifield superior to Yankee Stadium, Matt Viscardi, Richard Kessler as a Yankees fan, Daryl born the day the Mets won the World Series in 1969, Yankees are like the Dallas Cowboys, Yankee Stadium characterless, Ballparks in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh superior to Yankee Stadium, Definition of the "Come-With" guy, Michelle Toll, Bill O'Flanagan, Spencer and Caity Toll O'Flanagan, Bill's story about college Milo, Milo coming food shopping, Milo always saying yes to joining, Milo coming walking, Milo always happy to get up and do things, Milo loved playing games more than just sitting, Milo could not be rushed, Young Max Kessler as more Type A and efficient, Milo always traveling at Milo Time, Dave Hillman also a dedicated stimuli receiver, Walking to pre-school with Milo, Max requiring 10-15 minutes to get to pre-school, Milo taking double the time to do the same walk, Milo making us adjust to his schedule, Alana and I realizing we should allow him to do his thing on his schedule, Why are we rushing Milo?, Trips to the grocery store are difficult now but used to be fun with him, Milo always comfortable talking to adults, Jen Schonborn, Milo's exchange with Jen Schonborn, The Mop, Milo as a guy who did things his way at his own speed

Bagel Pub bagels, H&H Bagels, NYC and Montreal as the bagel capitals of the world, Lisa as crank, La Bagel Delight, Long Island bagels are excellent, Gelato flavor, Hazelnut gelato, Alana, Max, Daryl's parents and Alana's parents alive and well, Independent relationships with grandparents, Irwin and Terry Fishberg's Brooklyn accents, Irwin pronouncing the gelato "John Dewey." Milo loves ribbing his grandfather, Marc Bartman, Twice-cooked steak, Milo doing impressions, Grandma Barbara calling "Riiiiiich!," Watching football with Grandpa Richard, Marvin Jones, Marvin Jones' mistake, Grandpa Richard and Marvin Jones, Beef with Marvin Jones, Grandma Terry's drink order, Separate glass of ice, Grandpa Richard pronouncing "Fudgicles," Milo calling Grandpa Richard The Ricardo, Grandpa Onion, Grandpa Richard converting kilometers per hour to miles per hour "take a half add a quarter," Grandpa Irwin at Grumman, The underlay, Marc Rosenthal "rosearoo," Milo and his grandparents lucky to have each other, Milo busting chops

Lisa's groundstrokes and tennis, Tennis with Debbie Hillman, an excellent athlete, Debbie reworking her strokes, Debbie soon to surpass Lisa, Alex DeMinaur, Elena Rybakina, Ken Ken like Sudoku, Milo becoming aware of Ken Ken as soon as it appeared in the New York Times, Milo mocking Dad's Sudoku process, Math, Physics, Puzzles, Milo and Travel baseball, Milo and tennis, Milo playing Rec/community baseball, Jonas Nachsin coaching the team Daryl had coached years ago, along with Donald Viscardi, Charlie Nachsin, Matt Viscardi, Donald Viscardi t-shirt, Milo and Donald as kindred spirits, Alana and Daryl going to bereavement groups, Dawn Morawaki, The Compassionate Friends and faith, Different ways people go in the wake of terrible tragedy, Some people rely on their religion, Others find it hard to believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing being, Having kids forces you to live your opinions, Wondering how Milo would have reacted to religious teaching, Tragedy invites difficult questions about what you believe, Lisa notes that people lean on what they need, Lisa found the claim that Milo's fate was complete fucking bullshit to be cathartic, Total fucking bullshit is the only way to explain where we are today, Never begrudging anyone their faith and religion, Hard to explain this tragedy any way other than as total fucking bullshit, Bond between Milo and Donald Viscardi

Upper West Side of Manhattan, Episode called "Max," Focus on Max, Talking about Milo makes us happier, Hearing about Milo or speaking about Milo makes us feel close to him, Artistic inspiration, "Max" episode was the result of conversations over weeks, Conversations with The Compassionate Friends, Memorial Sloan-Kettering, Alana, Max's loss from the perspective of a parent, Max suffered a much more long-term loss, Lisa learning to understand, Feeling more gratitude and appreciation for what we have when we have it, Nothing is assumed or fair, Lisa giving voice to others in the Milo Time audience, Lisa's struggle is the audience's struggle as well, The idea of saying something that could cause pain can feel paralyzing and terrifying, Paralysis causes retreat, More difficult for missteps to be misread if the "vibe" is right, Appreciating the depth, ubiquity, and permanence of loss, Billy Bob Thornton 50% sad, The loss is constantly tapping us on the shoulder, Indian Wells tennis tournament, The new Daryl and Alana went to the tennis tournament, Watching Milo's favorites is difficult, Watching players Milo didn't know well is also difficult, Not having Lisa on "Max" felt like something was missing, Sleep is difficult, Share a story of Milo anywhere, any time

Brooklyn, Tennis with Lisa, Prospect Park tennis, Lisa's new groundstrokes, The growing List of Things Milo Loved, Caleb Griffen and Evan Segalman Donut Diner story, Donut Diner open 24 hours, Donut Diner makes its own doughnuts, Donut Diner menu, Tim Horton's, Caleb Griffen's Donut Diner t-shirt, Caleb's Donut Diner story involving Milo and his friends, People coming into your life when you least expect it, Alana and Daryl seeing Evan and Caleb at Green-Wood Cemetery, Visiting Milo's tree in Prospect Park, Caleb and Evan as friends of Milo's from different points in their lives, Caleb and Evan becoming important parts of our lives, People coming into our lives unexpectedly, Milo's Fellowship at Brooklyn Tech, Beautiful that Milo's circle can be growing for Alana, Max, and me, More people at Milo's event this year than last year, Impact triggered by this awful experience, Receiving a gift we never wanted, No impact on the reason for receiving the gift, Please share Milo stories with Alana, Max, and me, We want all the Milo stories and recollections

March 11 approaching. Nothing Milo loved more than his brother, Max, Look at Linktree and enjoy some things that Milo loved, Reach out and talk about Milo to anyone and everyone, Please reach out to Max to share stories about Milo, Billy Bob Thornton always half sad, The loss is always with us, Everything we do is infused with and tainted by Milo's death, Milo's death reordered our DNA, Max believes he is newly introducing himself to people he has known for years, Suffering from PTSD, Max lost his best friend, his confidante, his security, Life and death as part of the human experience, Haruki Murakami's "Norwegian Wood," Life and death exist together and not separately, Max applying to law school, Different people receiving good news now, Everything now received through a new lens, Max and Milo meeting for the first time, "Who's going to take care of Milo?", Max could be tough on Milo when they were very young, Max as Type A, Milo more laid back, Milo melting into my body as a newborn, Max learning what a sidekick he had in Milo, Max an extraordinary big brother, Max and Milo sharing a bed by choice, Playing games together, Mutually beneficial relationship, Music and movies and sports, Covid time together, Max and Milo growing closer during Covid, Max and Milo almost never fighting, Indicative of the way their personalities fit together, So beautiful, We knew how lucky we were in real time, Max earned the love of his brother, Please celebrate Milo on March 11 and on other days, Please be in touch with Max who also suffered a terrible loss

Returning to a discussion of a new reality, Selfishly need to be talking about Milo and challenges arising in the wake of Milo's death, Challenges learning about the successes and failures of Milo's friends, Not learning would be worse, No such thing as life without pain, Greater feeling, expression, and appreciation as a result, Knowing you will have support provides comfort, Importance of an engagement that is quiet and listens, The Compassionate Friends, Memorial Sloan Kettering, Experiencing death providing a super power, Things that are equal parts wonderful and heartbreaking, What can possibly counterbalance the death of a child?, Colin Campbell Finding the Words, Emotional v. physical pain and how it is addressed, Different bereaved families want different things, Tell me about a person you have lost, We need openness and recognition, We need recognition of the depth, ubiquity, and permanence of the loss, Nick Billings, Maddie Billings, Jake Tapper, Brokenness creates space and openness, Recognition of brokenness creates openness, Milo is on our minds all the time, If you mention Milo's name you may make me emotional but if you don't you will break my heart

Construction noise in Brooklyn, Studio sits in a construction zone, Milo's Letterbox'd review of Jacques Tati's Playtime, Analysis of Playtime, Value in chaos, Chaos inviting humanity, Daryl threading the needle, Jim Chones introduction, Watching NBA basketball while Milo was treating, NBA package, Watching until the final west coast game was over, Local NBA announcers, Chones as Cavaliers' announcer, Mike Breen, Ian Eagle, New York announcing as a stepping stone to a national job, Announcers elsewhere as homers and parts of the community, Walt "Clyde" Frazier, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter, Loving listening to the local broadcasters, Milo loving the in-game jump ball, Milo loving sloppy broadcasts and in-game activities, Milo loving when planned things get off track, Milo loving Aqib Talib's announcing, Aqib Talib's brother involved in illicit activity, Aqib Talib with no filter, Greg Olsen, Tony Romo, Throwing chaos into something buttoned down perhaps a unifying philosophy.

Brooklyn, Construction noise in the neighborhood, George Carlin philosophy, Neighborhood development, Becoming a cranky New Yorker, Alternate side of the street parking, People are wired to think that people who behave as they do have it "right", Discouraging the boys from being judgmental, Milo's conclusion about certain "showy" technology, Drone store on 4th Avenue, Milo viewing drones as a silly thing for a person to own, "That's the kind of guy who buys a drone," Google Glass, Parent on Milo's travel baseball team wearing Google Glass, Apple Vision Pro, Wall-E, Serious bikers in Central Park and Prospect, Milo's attitude about tennis gear, Max and Milo biking in Prospect Park over Covid, Milo's Letterbox'd account, Jacques Tati, Playtime, Max watching Playtime at Milo's recommendation, Milo's review of Playtime, Begin next episode of Milo Time with Milo's review of Playtime

Upper West Side, H&H Bagels, H&H Story, Barney Greengrass, Hot H&H bagels, Bus to Jets Games, Six bagels for breakfast, Bizarre cream cheeses and other toppings, Daryl's food anxiety can be a separate subject, The Simpsons, Sponge Bob movie, Simpsons movie, Bicycle license plates, Bort on Linktree, Other clips that Milo loved, The Naked Gun bloopers, Monty Python "We're coming with you!", Borat movies, This suit is black pause not, Ricky Gervais Extras with David Bowie, Family Guy "Over", Todd Barry "Fish in a Barrel" roasting of Chevy Chase, Breaking Ankles Daily, Brooklyn door commercial, Liberty Mutual lemu emu ads, Masahiro Tanaka commercials for the YES network, YouTube channel, Sweet Lefty, Jared Fontaine, The Idea of Machines

Upper West Side, JetsCast Inspired by Milo Time, David Hillman and Daryl airing Jets grievances in the season ender, Jets season ticket waiting list, Personal Seat Licenses, Alana and Lisa rooting against the Jets, David and Daryl's rule about leaving the Jets game early, JetsCast Inspired by Milo Time commuting edition, How Milo Time works, No preparation and editing, Editing struggles, Kung Fu Fighting, Carl Douglas, Max deeply interested in sports when Milo was very young, Parents hoping to find things their kids want to do, Do we find things our kids truly love to do?, Milo less obviously interested in sports at a very young age, Courtney in Milo's kindergarten class, Neighboring parents running a Kung Fu dojo in Windsor Terrace, Kung Fu costume, Milo in Kung Fu class, Courtney's older sister Becky, Isabel Hillman, Focusing on skills, and attention, and discipline, Milo floppy and eely, Rigidity not a strength of Milo's, Milo not responding to Shifu's calls to action, Kung Fu doesn't suit Milo's strengths, Milo letting us know he was interested in soccer and baseball, T-shirt, belt, and pants, Henry Hillman, Milo trying out as a ballboy at the US Open, Driving Milo to the US Open facility, Milo gets a callback to the tryouts, Alana seeing Milo's final tryout, Alana sensing Milo would not be selected, Not in Milo's nature to snap to attention and run with urgency, Milo rubbery, Milo not selected, Sweet Lefty by The Idea of Machines

Upper West Side of Manhattan, Snow on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, Snow in Brooklyn, Isabel Hillman, Henry Hillman, Max Kessler, Milo Kessler, Driving Max to college in Boston, Explaining draw sheets, Lisa's take on Milo's interest, Milo loved playing tennis tournaments to see himself in a tournament draw sheet, Max and Milo making up games in the basement and making up names for a bracket, Tennis brackets, NCAA brackets, Max and Milo organizing the neighborhood NCAA bracket challenge, Doing brackets for every Major tennis tournament, Alana Fishberg, Australian Open, French Open, Wimbledon, US Open, The Beacon School, Julian Fuchsberg's brackets, Jake Singer, Talia Flix, Brackets bringing order to sports, James Grayson and Milo making brackets out of anything, Jomboy, Jomboy working for YES or Yankees, Drafting numbers from 1 to 100, Similar to fantasy football, Orderliness to disorder, Ranking stuff, Milo's favorite NYT column every year analyzing paths to the NFL playoffs, Red Zone, Playoff possibilities, Moneyball, Milo and baseball statistics, Milo dedicated to particular new baseball stats, XWOBA, Explaining XWOBA, Making NFL playoff picks with Max and Milo, Fantasy football draft of players with Max and Milo, Heartbreaking to do these things without Milo, Relying on Milo's wisdom

So great to spend more time with Milo's great friend Jacob Friedman, who Milo most certainly loved. Thank you once again, Jacob, for joining the podcast a second time and sharing some additional Milo stories and reflections.