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163: The Natural MARVEL Eddie Saldaña
10/2/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast. Joining us today is the Next Generation Natural Marvel Eddie Saldaña! Eddie is a WNBF Natural Pro Bodybuilder and in this episode we discuss his lead up to the 2025 WNBF World Championships.
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00:51 The Natural Marvel
02:58 How Long Has Eddie Been In Contest Prep?
04:10 A Bit of Background on Eddie
04:43 Eddie Saldaña vs. Zebin Xu
05:12 Eddie’s Weight Class At WNBF Worlds?
08:01 The Current Natural Bodybuilding Standard
08:46 Eddie Talks IPE Worlds
10:12 In Natural Bodybuilding You Get BETTER As You Age
11:06 Eddie’s MARVELLOUS Transformation
11:36 Working With Cliff Wilson - Eddie’s Experience
11:56 Eddie’s BULKING Results Revealed - What You Should Know
14:01 Working With Jeff Nippard
16:03 The Craziest Program Eddie Ever Did
18:24 How The TOP Natural Pro ACTUALLY Train…
19:22 I Got This Wrong With Training..
21:54 Training To Failure When Volume Is HIGHER (The Facts)
25:41 Why Eddie Doesn’t Train For Sets of 5 (Consider This!)
28:51 Eddie’s Experience With High Reps vs. Low Reps
30:25 Eddie’s Workout Split - Why?
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Duration:00:45:00
162: AJ Morris - The Next Generation (Part 5)
9/18/2025
Welcome back to part 5 with Aj Morris! If you haven't checked out part 1-4 we highly recommend you check that out first! Aj is the founder of Natural Bodybuilding Worldwide and Made By Morris, an online ONLY coaching service that advocates and promotes natural bodybuilding and drug free physique improvement.
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00:41 Intro Reconnecting with AJ
01:25 AJ Morris Greatest Contest Season Full 2025 Recap
04:36 PNBA Worlds The Honest Truth
05:04 I’m Not Gonna Lie
07:30 WNBF Worlds vs PNBA Worlds The Straight Up Facts
09:52 Will AJ Morris Be at WNBF Worlds 2025
10:25 This Is a Big Problem The Word Is Spreading
11:08 How the NBW Show Does It
13:20 Failing a Polygraph Test What Can Happen Is
15:15 Will AJ Ever Compete in the WNBF Again
19:29 Dirk Emmerich Signs to NBW
21:36 AJ Morris on Competing The End of This Season Went Like This
28:06 The Highlight of the 2025 Season
30:17 Why Does AJ Want to Win What Is That Rooted In
32:07 Ego and How It Affects Winning Do You Ever Think About This
33:57 AJ Morris Talks Training Split Volume Selection and Mindset
41:52 Quoting Natural World Champion Ian Duckett
42:09 The Goal Post Show Front Squats Why
43:20 A Case for No Chest Support in Back Movements
48:13 Why AJ Morris Trains This Way Now
52:28 Exercise Machines AJ Morris Explains
55:27 Where You Can Learn More from AJ Morris
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Duration:01:02:18
161: The Return Of The Godfather - Jeff Alberts (Q&A Part 6)
9/4/2025
Welcome to episode 161 of the Longevity Muscle podcast! Today we have Jeff Alberts from 3D Muscle Journey joining us for our quarterly subscriber Q&A. Jeff is a Pro Natural Bodybuilder who fell in love with lifting back in 1986. He entered his first competition in 1993 and over the span of 3 decades he's competed in numerous shows. His track record speaks for itself winning 2 pro cards, 16 class titles, 26 top 3 finishes, and winning the 2014 IFPA Pro International. As a coach with 3DMJ, Jeff has worked with over 400+ athletes since 3DMJ’s inception, assisting them to reach a higher level.
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01:00 Happy Birthday Jeff!
03:22 How does Jeff Alberts Feel at 54?
05:53 How Jeff Handles Training With Aches & Pains
06:32 How To Look At The Positive When Dealing With A HARD Challenge
08:55 Social Media Fitness Influencers
10:34 What Jeff REALLY Thinks About The 4-6 Rep Range
13:24 Why You Should Never Train Past 8 Reps (Uncovering The Facts)
14:13 Overlapping Muscles & Bro Splits
19:23 Fatigue and the 4-8 Rep Range Explored
21:30 Hypertrophy Research
24:46 Social Media (Where It Tends To Fall Apart)
27:28 Unilateral Work To Failure (Imbalances & What You Can Do!)
32:15 Jeff’s Goal, Team 3DMJ & Coaching
33:20 The Guests on the Longevity Muscle Podcast (Jeff’s Unfiltered Take)
34:39 POTENTIAL RESOURCES! NOT ABSOLUTES
36:53 Instagram Reels (Jeff Says This...)
39:50 Workout Plans & Splits (Jeff Answers)
42:08 The Undeniable Obsession With Training Splits (Perspective)
43:35 Training To Become A World Champion (What It Actually Takes)
44:29 Training Splits (What Actually Matters)
47:45 Jeff's Current Training Split (CONTEXT Is Key!)
50:33 How Jeff Approaches Rest Days!
51:21 Training Less To Grow More! (Personal Experience)
54:45 Not Natty, The Skeptics & Responding To The Critics!
01:05:34 Jeff Alberts Offers Timeless Advice
01:06:22 Alternating Push/Pull Workouts
01:07:53 Is Jeff Training On His Birthday?
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Duration:01:15:52
160: The INCREDIBLE Andrew Palmer
8/21/2025
Welcome to the Longevity Muscle podcast! Joining us today is multiple World Champion, British Champion and Mr. Universe Winner Andrew Palmer. Andrew is UK Natural Bodybuilding Legend and has been training and competing for over 30 years! A true representation of longevity!
00:00 Intro
01:11 Super Rare Episode Contest & Training History
02:11 Winning UIBBN Worlds & ANB British Titles In The 90s
03:16 How Andrew Palmer Started
03:51 Natural Bodybuilding Was Superior In The 90s
04:52 Competing In The WNBF Worlds In The 90s
10:20 Was WNBF Worlds The Hardest Natural Competition
11:16 Drug Testing In The 90s
12:16 Andrew Still Competes At 56 Years Old
14:14 Setbacks That Never Stopped Andrew
16:00 Training 5x Per Week vs 3x Per Week
16:08 Discovering Mike Mentzer’s Heavy Duty Training
16:22 Why Andrew Reduced Training To 2x Per Week
16:47 The Real Reason For 2x Per Week Training
17:25 Results Of Ultra Low Frequency Training
18:27 Andrew’s Ideal Training Frequency & Volume
19:27 Breaking Down Andrew’s 90s Training Split
19:56 Andrew Brings Out Training Journal
20:26 Take On Progressive Overload
20:57 High Reps Low Sets Experience
22:08 Injuries Never Stopped Andrew
23:58 Routine Ran For Years
27:53 Difference Between 2 vs 3 Day Routine
29:19 Inspiration For Heavy Duty Training
30:12 The Ideal Training Schedule
51:37 Full Sample Routine At 56 Years Old
53:02 What’s Next For Andrew Goals Revealed
57:37 How Far From Peak At 56
59:51 The Golden Era & Take On Dorian Yates
01:01:52 Ideal Offseason Weight
01:03:52 Preferred Cardio HIIT vs LISS
01:04:40 Ideal Diet For Maximum Gains
01:12:48 Training The Old School Way
01:14:26 Longevity Muscle Magazine Feature
01:16:07 Andrew’s Final Message To All
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Duration:01:23:32
159: WNBF UK President & 3x British Champion Steff Noble
8/7/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast for our third episode of the Women's series! Today we have Steff Noble joining us. Steff is a3x British Champion and Miss Universe Winner and the WNBF UK President.
Chapters:
00:44 Intro - Judging in Dubai
01:17 Do judges and promoters get paid? (WNBF revealed)
02:33 WNBF UK President Steff Noble (How it works)
03:10 Eric Helms & Vicky McCann (Steff’s takes)
07:23 Figure vs. Fit Body Pro
08:20 DFAC vs. WNBF
11:24 Having a full time job while running the WNBF (How?)
12:35 NPA vs. BNBF vs. UKDFBA
13:25 UIBBN Worlds & The Top Natural Leagues
15:04 How To Improve The Natural Circuit (According To Steff)
17:10 The BIG Issue In Natural Bodybuilding That Must Get Resolved
25:47 IFBB Olympia vs. WNBF (Prize Money Progression TRUTHS)
32:37 Women’s Prize Money Is LESS Than Men’s (Steff’s Take)
36:48 Competing BEFORE vs. AFTER Pregnancy (Steff Explains)
41:26 Who Inspired Steff To Compete In FIGURE? (The Legend…)
42:55 The 2014 Arnold Classic
43:31 Can You Compete Naturally In The IFBB? 2014 vs. 2025
45:11 Golden Era vs. Natural Bodybuilding (The Evolution)
46:26 Sacrificing SIZE For Striated Glutes (The Truth From An Expert Judge)
49:07 Size vs. Conditioning vs. Symmetry (What It Takes To WIN WORLDS)
52:14 Judging WNBF Worlds (Steff’s Experience and Take on Oscar vs. Babacar)
54:48 Making A REAL Living Competing As A Natural Bodybuilder (Prize Money & Sponsors)
58:09 The Prize Money At 2024 Worlds, Brian Whitacre & The REALITY…
01:01:25 Training, Nutrition & How Steff Noble Became A 3x British Champ & Miss Universe!
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Duration:01:09:34
158: Eric Helms: The MACHIAVELLIAN Approach (Part 5)
7/24/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have Eric Helms from 3D Muscle Journey returning on the show for a part 5 for a real and completely raw conversation!
00:47 Natural Bodybuilding IS Classic Physique? The New Edition
11:47 Bulking For Muscle Growth (20lbs vs. 40lbs From Stage Weight)
14:47 Do You Need To Be In A Surplus To Grow Muscle?
22:24 A REAL World Example (Kenny’s Experience, Eric’s Take)
26:30 The IDEAL Scenario For Gaining Muscle
30:22 Gaining Grams vs. POUNDS of Muscle (Targeted Hypertrophy)
32:13 Eric’s Training Routine BEFORE WNBF WORLDS! (Why & How It’s Changed)
37:42 Recovery Explained (Training Frequency, How Does Eric Feel?)
37:51 This Training Split Is A Hidden Gem (Eric Explains Why)
39:53 High Volume vs. Low Volume Research (The Truth Explained!)
47:37 Guru Following (Consider This…)
48:39 You’re Doing Yourself A Disservice IF…
50:02 Nautilus Training, Arthur Jones (An Interesting Take)
50:27 What’s It’s Ultimately Boiled Down To (According To The Critics)
52:15 It’s About RESULTS (Experimenting & Becoming A Machiavellian)
54:05 Super Slow Experiment (The REALITY Is This…)
01:03:07 The BEST Naturals In The World (Never Forget This Point…)
01:04:44 Does Eric Helms Get Triggered By YouTube Critics? (The HONEST Truth)
01:16:11 Coaching With 3dmj, The Vault & MASS!
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Duration:01:24:35
157: Ben Howard - WNBF Pro Lightweight World Champion (Part 2)
7/10/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have Ben Howard joining us for a Part 2. Enjoy.
00:55 Intro: Reconnecting After 3 Years!
01:50 Ben’s World Championship Contest Season Breakdown
02:45 Is Ben’s Physique Better Today Than His WNBF World Championship Physique?
03:40 Ben’s Redemption From His “Failed” 2024 Contest Prep
06:31 Global Impact And The Reach Of Natural Bodybuilding
07:26 Blue-Collar Bodybuilding: The Reality Behind The Grind
10:15 Ben’s Recommendation: Super Bulking Vs. Lean Gaining
11:10 Dave Goodin: A Natural Bodybuilding Hero
14:01 The Next Big Thing In Natural Bodybuilding?
19:16 Mitch Jarvis Vs. Ben Howard: A Tale Of Two Champions
19:55 Ben’s Experience At The PNBA Worlds With AJ Morris
22:15 Ben Talks About The HIT Training Gym And Nautilus Equipment
27:39 Ben’s Upper-Lower Routine For The Natural World Championship
30:52 Why Ben Doesn’t Deadlift From The Floor Anymore
33:09 Why Ben Didn’t Use HIT Before Worlds (A Case For Reps In Reserve)
39:52 HIT Training Is Harder Than You Think (Ben’s Honest Take)
41:07 The Style Of Training Ben Enjoys From Time To Time
41:48 HIT Training All Year Long (The Truth)
44:31 The Importance Of Rest And Recovery For Maximizing Gains
48:29 Ben’s 3-Way HIT Training Split REVEALED
56:27 The Pre-Exhaust Method And Where To Learn More
56:47 1 Set To Failure, 3 Days Per Week (Recovery Impacts)
58:54 Mike Mentzer’s Full-Body Training: Ben’s Take On Frequency
01:01:22 World Champion Naturals Using HIT Training (1x Per Week Frequency)
01:01:42 The Magnificent Andy Palmer And His Training Insights
01:03:05 Is HIT Training Superior? Ben's Unfettered Take On Its Effectiveness
01:05:45 The Best Way To Train: The Reality Of High-Intensity Methods
01:06:40 Overtraining And Under-Recovering: How To Spot The Signs
01:07:45 Kenny’s Real Experience With 3x Per Week Full-Body HIT Training
01:09:13 Ben’s Experience With 6 Days Per Week High-Volume Training
01:10:40 The Lesson Learned From Training Mistakes
01:12:47 A Day In The Life With Ben Howard
01:15:57 Where You Can Learn More From Ben Howard
01:17:38 The Rise Of Natural Bodybuilding Worldwide
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Duration:01:26:12
156: Mr. Natural USA Jean Laguerre
6/26/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have Mr. Natural USA joining us, Jean Laguerre.
00:52 Jean’s Incredible Contest Longevity in Natural Bodybuilding
09:28 What’s Really Possible Naturally At 62 Years Old!
13:15 The Deeper Meaning Of Training (Jean’s Wisdom Revealed)
16:34 How Jean Trains at 62 Years Old! (Why & How His Training Evolved)
28:36 The Real Secret To Lifting Longevity (Jean Explains What He Would Have Done BETTER)
32:59 Jean Laguerre Talks Arthur Jones’ HIT & How It Compares To Other Training Methods (The Truth)
38:12 Jean Laguerre on Muscle Soreness, The Pump & Why You Should Care
41:02 Why 3 Days Per Week Training Is Effective
44:27 How Jean Trained for the PEAK of His Competitive Career!
45:27 Why Jean Laguerre Never Did Full Body Workouts
48:09 Jean’s Most Productive 3 Day Per Week Split Training Routine
48:33 From The NPC to the WNBF (This Changed Natural Bodybuilding!)
50:04 Jean’s Most Memorable Contest & Why
52:49 Jean’s Personal Training Studio, Coaching, Book & How You Can Learn More
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Duration:01:01:39
155: DFAC World Champion Julien Brüske
6/12/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have 6x Natural Pro Bodybuilding Overall Champion & DFAC World Champion joining us Julien Brüske.
00:45 Intro & Julien’s Location at FIBO Expo
02:06 DFAC World Champion Julien Brüske’s Career Highlights
06:51 The End of Julien’s Natural Bodybuilding Career Explained
11:07 PEDs: Why Julien’s Moving to IFBB (The BIG Motivator)
16:09 Who Will Be the Next Classic Physique Mr. Olympia Champion?
17:50 Enhanced vs. Natural Bodybuilding (What You NEED to Know)
23:42 Inside Politics of Natural Bodybuilding (Julien’s Personal Experience)
25:45 Top Natural Athletes Who Switched to the IFBB
27:05 The Most Competitive Natural Show Julien Has Ever Competed In
29:41 Babacar Niang vs. Julien Brüske (Julien’s Honest Opinion)
31:04 Julien’s Thoughts: Oscar Moscat vs. Babacar Niang Showdown
32:34 The Toughest Natural Bodybuilding Show Featuring World-Class Athletes
35:09 Julien’s Daily Offseason vs. Prep Training Routine (A Day in the Life)
41:54 How Julien Trained for His Greatest Natural Bodybuilding Season Ever
59:53 Julien’s Encouraging Words + Where to Learn More About His Journey
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Duration:01:07:20
154: Dr. Zena Al Kelaby - The Next Generation
5/29/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast for our second episode of the Women's series! Today we have Dr. Zena Al Kelaby joining us. Zena is a 5x British Champion and 9x Gold Medalist. Zena is truly a rising star in the women's natural bodybuilding circuit.
00:55 Deload Weeks, Rest Days And Why They Matter
01:44 Zena’s Story As A 3DMJ Athlete Spotlight
02:24 Meeting AJ Morris + Olympic Motivation
05:50 5 British Titles (Zena’s Natural Bodybuilding Wins)
08:34 How Zena Got Sponsored
12:25 Inside Zena’s Championship Season
15:39 What Drives Zena to Compete Naturally
19:35 Competing While Working Night Shifts
23:22 Zena’s Weekly Training Frequency & Split
24:50 Advice: Tired, Unmotivated, Not Progressing?
27:21 How Often Zena Trains Per Week
28:01 Zena’s Long-Term Bodybuilding Goal
32:05 Zena’s Figure Athlete Role Models
33:22 Why AJ Morris Became Her Coach
35:14 Why Zena Stopped Using RIR Training
37:01 Sets per Exercise (Zena’s Approach)
38:49 Evolving Her Training with Experience
40:13 What It Takes to Be a Natural Champion
41:00 Zena’s Ideal Exercise Volume Per Workout
42:51 Why She Never Skips Deload Weeks
44:51 In-Season vs Off-Season Diet (2023–2024)
49:00 Pre-Workout Meal At 5–6 AM
50:35 Afternoon Training & Rolling Splits
51:48 How She Handles Chocolate Cravings
52:44 Zena’s Physique Goals for 2025
54:50 Training with Coach AJ Morris
55:36 Programming Deadlifts for Strength & Aesthetics
58:22 Zena’s Height, Stage Weight & Off-Season Target
59:05 Natural Bodybuilding Goals for 2026
01:01:42 Zena’s Message to Aspiring Athletes
01:04:24 Where to Follow Zena & Learn More
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Duration:01:10:46
153: 5x Natural Bodybuilding Gold Medalist Dean Garratt (Part 2)
5/15/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast for part 2 with 3x Lightweight British Champion, UIBBN World Champion, INB Winner, WNBF World's Contender & Lifetime Pro Natural Bodybuilder Dean Garratt.
00:57 Training Smart at 55 for Longevity
01:52 Dean’s Weekly Training Frequency
02:33 Dean’s Training Split
02:39 Managing Aches and Pains in Your 50s
03:41 What Dean Would Change if He Competed at 55
06:22 Why Dean Stopped Competing in Bodybuilding
09:47 Training Less but Lifting Heavy Over 50
12:04 Staying Shredded and Happy at 55
16:49 Dean’s Tips for Building Muscle After 50
18:49 How Fat Loss Boosts Motivation Over 50
20:00 Dean’s Daily Diet and Full Meal Breakdown
24:37 4 AM Workouts and Their Longevity Benefits
27:24 Public Gym vs Home Gym for Lifters Over 50
29:11 Daily Protein Intake After 50
30:06 Carbs and Fats: Dean’s Over-50 Macro Plan
31:38 Carb Timing for Fat Loss - Is It Worth It?
34:23 Dean on Cheat Meals at 55
37:02 Mindset, Happiness, and Spirituality in Fitness
37:35 Dean’s Mental Approach to Aging
41:19 Lifting Philosophy and the Pursuit of Happiness
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Duration:00:49:52
152: The Legends Show – Philip Ricardo Jr. & Kiyoshi Moody
5/1/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have Philip Ricardo Jr. & Kiyoshi Moody joining us for our first ever episode of the Longevity Muscle Roundtable Series. Enjoy!
Timestamps
01:39 Philip Ricardo Jr. joins
02:09 Philip on longevity and training
05:38 Kiyoshi Moody enters
06:42 Legends roundtable begins
08:09 Kiyoshi’s IFBB season plans
09:01 IFBB vs. Philip Ricardo Jr.
09:17 NPC Team Universe
09:49 Competing vs. Kai Greene
11:28 Kai Greene joins NPC
11:46 IFBB pros they’ve faced
12:06 Kiyoshi’s weight then vs. now
12:46 Size vs. conditioning
13:48 Ricardo vs. Moody – rivalry
14:41 Natural bodybuilding’s biggest rivalry
17:19 When Kiyoshi first saw Philip
19:57 Ideal bodybuilding physique
21:31 Stacked IFPA show
22:30 Natural bodybuilding super-show
22:42 Natural Olympia showdown
24:01 Kiyoshi’s cancer story
24:25 Legendary comeback
27:08 TRT – Kiyoshi’s take
30:24 PED use?
30:50 Kiyoshi’s test results
31:14 TRT vs. natural competition
35:00 7 years vs. lifetime natural
40:10 Kiyoshi at Team Universe
41:30 Is Philip retired?
41:53 Motivation at 54
44:17 Was Ronnie Coleman natural?
45:46 Kiyoshi’s bodybuilding dream
49:06 NPC ban explained
49:54 IFBB pro card after 50
52:15 Posing as art
53:13 Natural bodybuilding’s biggest stage
53:39 Kiyoshi’s current goal
55:53 Gym camaraderie then vs. now
57:11 Training over 50
01:07:21 Training frequency after 50
01:08:20 TRT – final thoughts
01:12:19 Longevity = THIS...
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151: 1995 WNBF Pro World Overall Champion Eddie "The Rock" Hernandez
4/17/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have 1995 WNBF Natural Pro Bodybuilding Overall World Champion & Mr. Universe Eddie Hernandez joining us!
Timestamps
0:49 Natural Pro Dwayne Broadway Introduction
1:54 1995 WNBF World Champion Eddie Hernandez
2:55 Eddie Hernandez vs. Kai Greene Showdown
3:49 Daily Routine of a Natural Bodybuilding Champion
4:40 Trainer, Teacher, and Coach – Eddie’s Roles
5:11 Training 4-5 Days a Week at Age 61
5:38 Eddie’s Stage Weight & Height in the 90s
6:37 Facing Natural Bodybuilding Legends
7:16 Who Inspired Eddie to Compete
10:27 Conditioning in 90s Natural Bodybuilding
11:07 The Bodybuilder Who Inspired Kai Greene
13:23 Kai Greene: Natural Genetic Anomaly?
14:19 Why Eddie Says Kai Greene Was a “Problem”
15:03 Top Natural Bodybuilding Earners
15:42 Why Eddie Retired from Competition
17:29 Training in the “Dungeon” Gym
17:51 Why Eddie Stayed Natural (Never IFBB)
18:21 NFL Tryouts: Cowboys & Giants
18:30 Why He Stopped Powerlifting
18:52 Why He Still Trains Like a Bodybuilder
19:21 Machines vs. Free Weights Pre-Contest
20:09 Eddie’s Pre-World Championship Training Split
20:39 Dorian Yates Style Training for Naturals
22:23 Best Compound Lifts for Muscle Growth
23:27 Deadlifts: Are They Essential for Growth?
24:00 Ideal Rep Range to Maximize Muscle
24:16 One Regret from His Bodybuilding Career
25:24 Duration of Training Sessions
25:47 Injuries & Lessons Learned
26:25 The Serious Risks of Overtraining
29:49 Eddie’s Current Training at Age 61
32:20 Natural Bodybuilding Today: Eddie’s Take
33:33 Eddie’s Diet as a World Champion
34:52 How Much Protein for Muscle Growth?
35:11 Eddie’s Cardio Protocol for Shredding
36:00 90s Natural Pros Were Big & Tall
36:25 Fantasy Matchup: Eddie vs. Broadway
37:12 The Longevity Muscle Podcast Mission
38:05 First Ever Natural Pro World Champion
38:39 Duane Ball: Eddie’s Training Partner
39:33 Jose Guzman: The Natural Ronnie Coleman
40:21 Mike Mentzer or Dorian Yates?
40:49 Eddie’s Diet Now at 61 Years Old
41:26 Bernard Sealy Shoutout
42:30 90s vs. Modern Conditioning
43:54 Message to the New Generation
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Duration:00:51:18
150: DFAC World Champion & Mr. America Winner Robert Thompson Jr.
4/3/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have DFAC Natural Pro Bodybuilding Overall World Champion, Mr. America Winner & WNBF Pro Robert Thompson Jr. joining us!
Timestamps
00:35 Natural Pro World Champion, Mr. America Winner
00:57 Starting a gym in the Cayman Islands (why & how?)
01:48 Robert wins DFAC Worlds & finding purpose
02:59 DFAC pros (what it means)
03:30 Robert Thompson Jr. on stage with...
04:00 Life changing decisions…
07:20 Robert’s gym in the Cayman Islands!
09:30 Born in Jamaica raise on the Cayman Island
10:12 Robert’s competitive history playing high level football (soccer)
10:55 A life altering knee injury that led to bodybuilding GREATNESS!
13:20 Life in the Cayman Islands
15:12 Training with a meniscus injury (why Robert isn’t competing this year)
16:46 Recovering from severe burn out due to overworking & high level stress
19:35 “Being a personal trainer…” - Robert’s goal
20:15 Robert talks about his clients, mental health & suicide.
21:55 Robert’s message to those who are struggling
23:19 Social media is a tool (It's how you use it...)
25:03 Robert Thompson’s training approach (mindset)
27:30 Compound lifts
27:58 Isolation lifts
28:02 This is the key for adding new muscle tissue!
29:09 Robert’s ideal rep range
30:05 Robert’s training split (deadlifts on leg day or back day?)
31:03 Intensity of effort
32:35 Is training the same offseason vs. Contest prep? (Robert explains)
34:10 High reps or low reps? Robert explains
34:58 How many hard sets per exercise?
37:05 Training to failure
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Duration:00:50:49
149: AJ Morris - The Next Generation (Part 4)
3/20/2025
Welcome back to part 4 with Aj Morris! If you haven't checked out part 1-3 we highly recommend you check that out first! Aj is the founder of Natural Bodybuilding Worldwide and Made By Morris, an online ONLY coaching service that advocates and promotes natural bodybuilding and drug free physique improvement.
Timestamps
00:33 Aj Morris talks Longevity Muscle Magazine - are you subscribed yet? ;)
01:47 Natural Bodybuilding Worldwide (what’s good?!)
04:41 Natural Pro British Champion Zena
04:51 Natural Pro World Champion Ben Howard trains 3x per week
05:09 Brand awareness worldwide is the goal
05:31 AJ becomes a show promoter with NBW & the UKDFBA
06:25 Why did AJ choose the UKDFBA?
08:45 AJ’s first ever bodybuilding show
09:34 What’s the BIG motivator for Natural Bodybuilding Worldwide?
11:15 UKDFBA is non profit!
12:06 Why there is nothing wrong with making a profit
13:23 You must be a reputable pro to compete at the NBW International!
16:23 WNBF Worlds (AJ’s experience)
17:29 WNBF Galaxy will be MASSIVE!
17:39 WNBF Worlds needs this…
19:30 The EPIC photo taken by AJ Morris himself
19:55 This is a BIG issue at WNBF Worlds (AJ explains)
25:18 The practical benefits of earning a profit
26:59 Natural Bodybuilding Worldwide Clothing! (Check it out!!)
29:25 What the clothing really represents…
29:35 The steroid epidemic in teenage bodybuilding
30:19 Team 3DMJ, Nick Wright Bodybuilding, Matt Ogus!
30:33 How AJ Morris discovered NATURAL Bodybuilding
31:23 Why AJ Morris doesn’t train with Los Vickers
32:38 The key to being massively productive!
34:42 “I'm in a constant battle…”
38:03 Gary Vaynerchuk mentality
39:33 The motivation for what AJ Morris is building
41:22 AJ Morris’ experience working with Jordan Peters
43:20 Getting shredded and competing in 2025
47:46 Winning WNBF Worlds, ANBF Elite Pro, NBW International
49:48 Why AJ Morris wants to compete with Ben Howard!
52:34 AJ Morris talks about the podcast!
54:48 The BIG episode where we talk training!
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Duration:01:02:18
148: How Zebin Xu Became WNBF Lightweight World Champion
3/6/2025
Welcome to episode 148 of the Longevity Muscle podcast! Today we have WNBF Pro Natural Bodybuilder and Pro Lightweight World Champion Zebin Xu joining us!
Timestamps:
00:42 Representing China at the WNBF Natural Pro World Championships
01:25 Why Zebin Xu moved to the USA from China
02:35 Why Zebin Xu didn’t compete at WNBF Worlds in 2023
03:00 Becoming a Natural Pro Bodybuilder in 2022
03:56 Did Zebin Xu compete in the WNBF in China?
04:20 Does Zebin Xu miss China?
04:42 Competing as an amateur natural bodybuilder in the INBF
05:29 Competing against Natural Pro Bodybuilder Eddie Saldana
06:42 What motivated Zebin Xu to compete in natural bodybuilding?
07:54 The Golden Era of natural bodybuilding
08:12 Zebin Xu becomes WNBF Natural Pro Lightweight World Champion
09:20 Competing against Dirk Emmerich (Zebin’s take)
10:22 Genetics in natural bodybuilding
11:29 Nutrition to maintain maximum muscle fullness
14:33 Zebin Xu’s famous Chinese bodybuilding coach
15:52 Dieting to get shredded for WNBF World Championships
17:38 Bantamweight class vs. Lightweight class at WNBF Worlds
18:42 How Zebin feels post WNBF Worlds (current weight)
19:04 Gaining 20 pounds (how long did it take?)
19:42 Training for maximum muscle growth leading up to WNBF Worlds
21:07 The World Champion training split (training frequency explained)
22:26 Training journal (tracking)
23:07 Training body parts 2x per week during the cutting phase (why?)
24:23 Cardio for fat loss (how did Zebin do it?)
24:45 How low did Zebin’s calories get?
25:38 How much protein did Zebin eat for getting shredded?
26:02 Protein shakes vs. Whole foods
26:38 Zebin’s 8 day training cycle
27:04 Responding better to less training frequency
28:27 rep ranges & recovery
29:44 Zebin’s current training (how it’s evolved)
30:24 How long do Zebin’s training sessions last?
30:47 Zebin’s training split
32:49 Training arms before legs (why?)
33:38 Training calves on a separate day from legs
34:18 Body part specialization
35:58 recovery days from training
37:40 Training intensity (does Zebin train to failure?)
38:47 rep ranges and training to failure
40:12 recording your lifts (the pros and cons)
42:32 Low reps during a fat loss phase (Zebin’s take)
44:27 How many exercises in a workout
44:37 How many hard sets per exercise?
44:52 How many hard sets per body part?
46:34 How to warm up for heavy training (Zebin explains)
48:57 How many chest exercises in a workout? (Training frequency)
51:34 Zebin Xu’s natural bodybuilding competition plans
53:01 Competing in classic physique?
53:58 You can get a good physique without steroids (Zebin explains)
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Duration:01:03:22
147: Natural Bodybuilding Legend Vicky McCann: UNFILTERED
2/20/2025
Joining us on the Longevity Muscle podcast is Vicky McCann, a former WNBF, IFPA, PNBA & DFAC Pro. Vicky McCann shares her story, unfair politics and her time spent working with some of the greatest natural bodybuilders ever. This marks the beginning of Longevity Muscle's Women’s Series. Enjoy!
Chapters
02:04 Vicky McCann's impact on the best naturals in the WORLD!
03:19 Natural Pro Bodybuilding Champion
03:46 WNBF History
05:39 Why Vicky almost quit bodybuilding
06:19 Women’s natural bodybuilding
06:46 Competing in the Cayman Islands
07:09 The beginning of the end
15:56 The REAL reason Rob Hope retired
17:19 All natural bodybuilders really want is…
18:24 The DFAC's ethos
19:36 Going from WNBF to PNBA
22:22 Horrific drug testing protocol in bodybuilding
25:06 Why Vicky founded DFAC (Drug Free Athletes Coalition)
27:32 Natural Pro World Champions
27:46 DFAC & BNBF (how it works, the affiliates, location and pro cards)
31:44 The biggest event of natural bodybuilding
32:58 The path to becoming a DFAC pro
33:24 The WNBF
34:19 Vicky McCann’s job
34:38 Too many pro cards
35:48 The TOP World Championships in natural bodybuilding
38:16 Why David Kaye only competed at DFAC Worlds
39:54 Ben Tennessen, Rob Hope and the WNBF split
41:09 Ben Tennessen
41:31 Drug testing
42:45 Natural bodybuilding is a BIG mess…
43:51 Can natural bodybuilding be saved?
44:21 Legends of natural bodybuilding
46:09 Training with David Kaye
47:14 Goals to compete, retirement & LONGEVITY!
48:60 Training for muscle growth & fat loss
48:26 Women’s natural bodybuilding
50:13 Training to be the best in the world!
51:11 DFAC Worlds
52:49 Bodybuilding's UNFAIR politics
57:25 Training split
59:05 Cardio
01:01:05 Strength when dieting
01:01:48 How low did Vicky’s calories get when dieting?
01:02:49 Vicky McCann’s top 5
01:06:55 Nigel Davis at the 1996 Worlds
01:07:48 David Goodin
01:08:51 A message to the athletes
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Duration:01:17:10
146: Steve Hall REVIVE STRONGER: Turning Pro (Part 3)
2/6/2025
Welcome to episode 146 of the Longevity Muscle podcast! Today we have Steve Hall joining us for Part 3!
Timestamps
01:02 Steve Hall wins his pro card (2024 season recap)
07:22 How much protein?
10:31 White potatoes during contest prep
12:24 Jeff Nippard’s Kiwi’s
13:46 How Steve feels about 2024 WNBF Worlds
16:32 Competing in the 170’s vs. 160’s
19:29 WNBF Worlds Middleweights vs. Lightweights
22:03 Steve Hall the natural bodybuilding judge (how he got into it)
24:17 Placing at 2024 WNBF Worlds
25:54 How to make WNBF Worlds more exclusive?
27:31 Steve’s experience competing in The Netherlands and Switzerland
28:35 WNBF Greece and Cyprus (new rules?)
31:39 Competing in the PNBA vs. WNBF
33:14 Exposing PED users who get caught competing in natural shows
36:55 The hardest pro show Steve has ever done!
38:55 Steve Hall REVIVE STRONGER!
40:06 How Steve feels since competing at WNBF Worlds
41:09 Steve’s training routine leading up to WNBF Worlds in 2024
44:22 Steve’s trip to New York City
45:48 Upper Lower 6 days per week (aches, pains and injuries)
46:58 Eric Helms’ training (how many sets per muscle group?)
47:15 Jeff Albert’s training frequency and low volume training
47:39 Never forget this about training frequency…
48:36 Training to be the best natural bodybuilder (the reality for most…)
49:11 You can’t just look at one training variable…
49:34 Bodybuilding dogma by influencers
50:47 Steve Hall’s Push Pull Legs training split (here’s why)
55:57 You hit your natural limit? You can’t recover from training?…
57:17 Natty News Daily award and Steve’s contest goals next season
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Duration:01:04:47
145: WNBF Lightweight World Champion Dirk Emmerich (Part 2)
1/23/2025
Welcome to episode 134 of the Longevity Muscle podcast! Today we have WNBF Pro Natural Bodybuilder and Pro Lightweight World Champion Dirk Emmerich joining us!
Timestamps
00:55 Thailand
05:28 WNBF World Championship 2024
09:40 What muscle groups will Dirk focus on most this offseason
15:35 How Dirk will change his training this offseason
19:27 Dirk’s advanced training program for 2025
21:17 Training for bigger arms as an advanced lifter
21:54 Training frequency for maximizing muscle growth
22:44 A case for the asynchronous training split
21:56 Dirk’s thoughts on training 3 days in a row
24:22 A lot of German bodybuilders are doing this with programming”
24:39 Working with Alberto Nunez as an advanced pro natural bodybuilder
26:32 Advanced training for arms
27:52 Dirk’s offseason plan for making muscle gains
28:41 Dirk’s current weight relative to WNBF Worlds 2024
29:15 Dirk’s goal weight this offseason
29:34 back to back contest seasons
31:06 A day in the life with a natural world champion bodybuilder
33:27 If you’re stressed out or overthinking things do this
35:47 Why you need to stick to the program!
36:00 The bodybuilding lifestyle (the reality)
36:13 Nutrition of a natural world champion bodybuilder
36:48 The big mistake people make for fat loss nutrition
39:09 How many meals per day?
40:18 Protein, fat carb intake (what is low and what is high?)
42:17 Excitement for the gym during contest prep
43:22 The importance of environment for bodybuilding success
46:02 Carb timing
47:46 Nutrient time is important
48:01 Carb timing in a surplus and body fat distribution
50:28 Full body training
51:26 Why Dirk hired Alberto Nunez for bodybuilding coaching
56:55 Full body training (beginner vs. advanced)
58:12 Lengthened partials and high protein diets
58:55 Coaching with Dirk
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Duration:01:05:31
144: WNBF World Heavyweight Pro Gary Amlinger (Part 2)
1/9/2025
Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have WNBF Professional Natural Bodybuilder Gary Amlinger joining us for part 2 - Leave No Stone Left Unturned. Gary is the 2022 WNBF Bodybuilding World Heavyweight Silver Medalist representing Team USA. He is a bodybuilding coach and trainer.
00:53 Why Gary left New York and moved to Thailand
09:16 The only natural bodybuilder to beat Gary Amlinger at WNBF Worlds
09:37 Advanced set volume for muscle growth
13:21 Gary Amlinger’s mindset for high volume training
13:49 Working with a Physiotherapist
15:36 Why Gary feels he won silver and not gold at WNBF Worlds in 2022
21:00 Becoming a WNBF WORLD CHAMPION
26:23 How long does Gary’s training sessions last?
26:03 Intensity of effort for muscle building
26:56 Training to failure explained
28:47 Less sets at 90-100% effort vs. more sets at 80-90% effort
30:59 How do you know if you’re ACTUALLY growing muscle?
32:36 De-loads (when, why, how?)
34:42 Team 3DMJ
35:15 Lifestyle focused vs. Pro level natural bodybuilding
37:26 Metabolic stress for hypertrophy?
38:09 Scientific studies for pro level natural bodybuilders?
40:31 The optimal training frequency for hypertrophy
41:13 Why pro level natural bodybuilders have coaches (should you?)
44:44 The resurgence of Mike Mentzer’s low volume high-intensity training
50:46 What's the actual amount you need to maximize muscle growth?
51:46 Gary Amlinger’s advanced pro natural bodybuilding training program
53:54 Training to be the best in the world (what no one tells you)
57:30 1 set to failure per exercise
01:01:21 Progressive overload
01:07:30 What happens when people train with higher volume
01:13:01 The importance of being 100% ALL IN!
01:15:16 Making a transformation late in your naturally bodybuilding journey
01:17:03 Natural genetic limit
01:19:51 Many different things work, but what works best?
01:21:54 Working in Thailand (what it’s like)
01:23:34 A day in the life with a top level pro natural bodybuilder
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Duration:01:33:17
