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Meghan Markle, uh Sussex, has a new side hustle and it involves your wardrobe. Why you buying a pair of jeans can earn the California duchess $16.80. Yes, on the show today, we unpack how royals are diversifying, either willingly or not, thanks to 2025’s influencer culture. For some of them, it might even include a foray into *checks notes* milk. Plus, are you a lucky girl? TikTok’s latest manifestation trend explores the art of delusion to ensure you get what you want, every time. Except when you're Jessie and you're lucky even when you don't want to be. Our self-confessed lucky girl explains all. And, the return-to-office debate has taken a surprising turn. Is the location of your desk now a political statement? We discuss. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: Millie Bobby Brown - A Very Public Dissection & A Clapback"Too Rich" Celebrities & The Adolescence TheoryOpen Marriages & The New Kind Of Divorce The White Lotus Recap – The Kiss & An Astonishing SceneThe 7 Controversies Of This Year's Biggest MovieThe Three Questions You Should Ask On A First DateThe Enchanted Forest The 2025 Budget For Basic B*tchesConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter to get your fix of the week's best things to read, watch and listen to pulled from right across the internet. What To Read: How the budget is actually going to help the cost of living.Hey, didn't we already have the debate about working from home?Exactly how to trick yourself into being a 'lucky person'.Ben Affleck is the ultimate single girl.'For Meghan Markle's show to succeed, she needs to go full Gwyneth Paltrow.'HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'How you feel about Meghan's new 'shop' tells me one thing about you.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Amelia Lester & Jessie Stephens Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Scott Stronach Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, we're here to bust some very important fake pyramid news. Welcome to the anatomy of a conspiracy. Plus, the 80-20 theory that everyone’s madly googling after the TV phenomenon that is Adolescence. And, one of the stars of The White Lotus wants you to stop asking about his penis, please. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: Open Marriages & The New Kind Of Divorce The White Lotus Recap – The Kiss & An Astonishing SceneThe 7 Controversies Of This Year's Biggest MovieThe Three Questions You Should Ask On A First DateThe Response To Hugh Van Cuylenburg's Open LetterMel Robbins Knows Exactly What's Wrong with YouThe White Lotus — 5 Theories & A Dong WatchThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter to get your fix of the week's best things to read, watch and listen to pulled from right across the internet. What To Read: Every question you have about about Netflix's 'Adolescence', answered.The disturbing '80/20 theory' featured in Netflix's Adolescence, explained.'As a mum of teen boys, Adolescence was a sobering watch.'The tragic true story that inspired Netflix's Adolescence.The heartbreaking final scene of Netflix's Adolescence, explained.Mike White came second on Survivor. He used what he learnt to create The White Lotus.A star on The White Lotus has just shot down the show's wildest theory.The 4 types of men you'll find in every season of The White Lotus. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Amelia Lester & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Whether you're navigating a redundancy right now or just want to be prepared, we’re going to change your perspective of redundancy. Today we have a really juicy Sunday Special. In this episode of BIZ, Mia Freedman takes us behind the headlines of her very public redundancy that led her to founding Mamamia (you won’t believe the job they offered her instead…). You'll hear Mia in conversation with Michelle Battersby and then insight from our career coach Soph Hirst, and you'll get practical advice on how to create a narrative that positions you perfectly for your next role and how to rebuild your confidence and reputation after a career setback. If you want your work life issue solved, send us a voice note or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here and follow the Biz Instagram here. THE END BITS Support independent women's media Mamamia's new podcast BIZ is rewriting the rules of work with no generic advice - just real strategies from women who've actually been there. Listen here. Follow Michelle's startup Sunroom and Soph’s career coaching business Workbaby. HOSTS: Michelle Battersby, Soph Hirst and Em Vernem EXEC PRODUCER: Kimberly Braddish AUDIO PRODUCER: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mindy Kaling recently revealed she chose solo motherhood because she didn't want to compromise on money, career decisions, or parenting choices. She joins a growing number of high-profile women who are reimagining traditional approaches to family, marriage and relationships. We unpack the rise of intentional solo parenting and non-traditional family structures. Plus, everyone's talking about this surprise TV hit of the week (and no, it's not The White Lotus). We discuss why it's capturing everyone's attention. And in our recommendations: jelly beans vs brussels sprouts in an unexpected health showdown, and Mia discovers a soothing video trend that's helping her unwind. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: The White Lotus Recap – The Kiss & An Astonishing SceneThe 7 Controversies Of This Year's Biggest MovieThe Three Questions You Should Ask On A First DateThe Response To Hugh Van Cuylenburg's Open LetterMel Robbins Knows Exactly What's Wrong with YouThe White Lotus — 5 Theories & A Dong WatchThe New Things People Are Saying During SexThe Royals' Group Chat & Mia's BTS Secrets From Award SeasonThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveA Meghan Pivot No One Expected & The Ugly SNARF Phone TrapConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Recommendations: Jessie wants you to watch Adolescence on Netflix Mia wants you to watch Lookalike Cams Holly wants you to check out Lisa Damour on Instagram What To Read: 'As a mum of teen boys, Adolescence was a sobering watch.'The tragic true story that inspired Netflix's Adolescence. According to Mindy Kaling, there's one big misconception people have about Meghan Markle. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Out Loud today, we examine the gift that's just dropped in the form of an illuminating new profile on Holly's 'close personal friend' Gwyneth Paltrow. We unpack what Gwynnie reveals about being a female mogul/movie star/sex symbol/cultural icon in 2025. Also, the new Snow White remake with everything – a half a billion dollar budget, feuding co-stars, a hot mess of a press tour – and a casting backlash which feels eerily similar to last year's The Little Mermaid. Plus, the teeth we can't stop talking about: How The White Lotus actress Aimee Lou Wood has chosen to set herself apart by rejecting the face of the celebrity masses. Teeth are having a moment and we're here for it. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: The Response To Hugh Van Cuylenburg's Open LetterMel Robbins Knows Exactly What's Wrong with YouThe White Lotus — 5 Theories & A Dong WatchThe New Things People Are Saying During SexThe Royals' Group Chat & Mia's BTS Secrets From Award SeasonThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveA Meghan Pivot No One Expected & The Ugly SNARF Phone TrapAnthony Albanese, Prime Minister: The InterviewPeter Dutton, Opposition Leader: The InterviewConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What To Read: The NASA astronauts who were supposed to be on an 8-day mission in space.Leslie Bibb and Sam Rockwell have been together for 18 years. They swear by the 'three-week rule'.Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin 'consciously uncoupled' 10 years ago. This is their life now.'For Meghan Markle's show to succeed, she needs to go full Gwyneth Paltrow.''My husband of 10 years was acting suspicious. Then I saw who'd sent him an email.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Two politicians walk into a podcast studio… and no, this isn’t the start of a bad joke. In today’s episode of Out Loud, we spill the tea on what really went down when Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton dropped by Mamamia for a chat. And we don’t want to alarm anyone on a Monday, but you might just be suffering from hurry sickness. Yes, it’s a thing, and we dive into how it’s affecting lives and sanity. Plus, a high-profile father has taken centre stage with an emotional open letter to parents of autistic kids by saying the quiet thing out loud. We unpack the conversations it sparked – and why it matters. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: Mel Robbins Knows Exactly What's Wrong with YouThe White Lotus — 5 Theories & A Dong WatchThe New Things People Are Saying During SexThe Royals' Group Chat & Mia's BTS Secrets From Award SeasonThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveA Meghan Pivot No One Expected & The Ugly SNARF Phone TrapThe Fight You Need To Have With Your ParentsThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveAnthony Albanese, Prime Minister: The InterviewPeter Dutton, Opposition Leader: The InterviewConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What To Read: An Open Letter to The Parents Of Autistic Children, From Hugh Van Cuylenburg'I am raising four neurodivergent kids. Then I saw myself in them.'We sat down with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, these are 3 things he wants you to know.Peter Dutton says he's not who you think. This is his pitch to you.Jessica Mauboy just shared details of her 'rollercoaster' life as a new mum.What is Hurry Sickness? GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, you might remember a couple of weeks ago Holly shared some really interesting insights about Hollywood and why we're seeing so many MID women dominating it in film and television - insights she gleaned from a recent MID interview. Well today, we thought we'd share the full chat with you because it's a cracker. Rachel Griffiths says she just got through her "peak mid-hell years" and she's here to tell us how. The actor, producer, and director has had many eras - from the "fast start" of Muriel's Wedding to being a Hollywood awards darling, a big-deal US TV star, the director of the Australian classic movie Ride Like A Girl, the co-creator of Total Control and now, the star of the TV show Madam. Through all that, she was also wrestling with the relatable MID dramas - parenting teens and young adults, a diagnosis that made sense of so much, caring for ageing relatives and trying to keep a long-term marriage going. No wonder, as she tells host Holly Wainwright, she and her husband needed a sabbatical. This conversation also veers off into ageing, the Hollywood stars Rachel used to envy but no longer does, how to stay optimistic in a tumultuous world and the relief of finding out she's "ADHD AF". You can follow Rachel Griffiths here. You can watch Madam here: Watch Madam Season 1, Catch Up TV THE END BITS: Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au Follow us on Instagram @MidbyMamamia or sign up to the MID newsletter, dropping weekly here. Mamamia's new podcast BIZ is rewriting the rules of work with no generic advice - just real strategies from women who've actually been there. Listen here. CREDITS: Host: Holly Wainwright Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray Producer: Tahli Blackman Audio Producer: Jacob Round Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who do you turn to when you need help or guidance in your life? In this episode, we discuss the irresistible pull of self-help gurus and why there’s only one right now who has absolutely met her moment - Mel Robbins. Plus, we share our weekly recommendations. We’ve got books for you and something to put on your head while you're reading those books. And, from terrible parenting choices, flat social batteries and musical theatre. It's our best & worst of the week. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: The White Lotus — 5 Theories & A Dong WatchThe New Things People Are Saying During SexThe Royals' Group Chat & Mia's BTS Secrets From Award SeasonThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveA Meghan Pivot No One Expected & The Ugly SNARF Phone TrapThe Fight You Need To Have With Your ParentsThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Recommendations: Mia wants you to check out Avenue The Label hats Holly wants you to listen to The Salt Path by Raynor Winn Jessie wants you to read Better Days By Claire Zorn What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 202515 years ago, Mel Robbins hit rock bottom. She's now the most listened to woman in the world. The 'let them' theory has changed more than 2 million people's lives. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There’s a celebrity family with seven children, some dubious accent choices and a wrongful death suit hanging over their heads. So why have Alec and Hilaria Baldwin opened their front door and invited us inside their home? That's right, we're diving into Mia's Roman Empire and the chaotic dynamic of TV reality show, The Baldwins. Plus, are your friends’ 'tweakments' making you feel bad about your face? Competitive ageing is ruining friendships with women starting anti-ageing treatments younger than ever. We ask why and reveal the exact age most women start worrying about ageing. And, have you lost your gut instinct? In a world of constant feedback loops and overthinking, many of us struggle to be Hell Yes/Fuck No people. We'll share the simple trick to reconnecting with your intuition. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: The Royals' Group Chat & Mia's BTS Secrets From Award SeasonThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveA Meghan Pivot No One Expected & The Ugly SNARF Phone TrapThe Fight You Need To Have With Your ParentsThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveOur Meghan Review & The Cloud Over MAFSWe've Got Some Feedback For The OscarsThe Spectacle Of Zelenskyy & Oscars' OutcastsThe New Things People Are Saying During SexConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for the best bits of the internet all tied up in a big red bow. Easy to read but up to the minute — we've been all over the web so you don't have to. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025How you look as you get older is a choice. Just ask Pamela Anderson.Help, I’ve lost my gut instinct.I flew overseas for a facelift at 37. Here's what surprised me most.' ICYMI, it's the first girls-trip to space. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It was International Women's Day over the weekend and Robbie Katter had some interesting thoughts about the celebration. We unpack his feedback as well as discuss some new research about the split of domestic chores. Plus, we ask the question: what are the unusual things your partner does to 'help' when you're expecting guests? Also, why after a weekend of digesting With Love, Meghan — and some quickles sprinkled with flowers — it’s clear that the royal family made a big mistake. We explain why. And, can someone please explain what SNARF is? We hate to break it to you, but it’s all over your phone and might be the reason you're utterly exhausted. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Register for the free Today at Apple event where Amelia Lester will host a conversation with Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright about 10 years of podcasting success on Mamamia Out Loud. What To Listen To Next: The Fight You Need To Have With Your ParentsThe (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveOur Meghan Review & The Cloud Over MAFSWe've Got Some Feedback For The OscarsThe Spectacle Of Zelenskyy & Oscars' OutcastsThe New Things People Are Saying During SexConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for the best bits of the internet all tied up in a big red bow. Easy to read but up to the minute — we've been all over the web so you don't have to. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025MIA FREEDMAN: '12 thoughts I had while watching With Love, Meghan.'Meghan Markle's show exposes the royal family's big mistake.Jacqui and Clint from MAFS just hard-launched their relationship with a glorious staged photoshoot. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hoarding, throwing, selling and Swedish death cleaning—we’re talking about 'stuff' and why what to do with it (or what we don't) goes far deeper than just clearing clutter. In this episode, we discuss why you either love having lots of things around you or not and the reasons why many people (particularly parents) hold onto random objects. We unpack the psychology behind our attachment to certain things and explore how your relationship with stuff can reflect your upbringing. Plus, why has minimalism suddenly become so popular? There's also our recommendations including Oscar movies, prize-winning books and a new makeup hack. Plus, we wrap up the week with out Best & Worst including fashion disasters and a flat phone battery in human form. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: The (No Spoiler) Severance Conversation We’ve Been Waiting To HaveOur Meghan Review & The Cloud Over MAFSWe've Got Some Feedback For The OscarsThe Spectacle Of Zelenskyy & Oscars' OutcastsThe New Things People Are Saying During SexConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Recommendations: Jessie wants you to read Orbital by Samantha Harvey Mia wants you to try a foundation makeup hack Holly wants you to watch Conclave on Apple TV+ and A Real Pain on Prime Video What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025Meghan Markle's show proves the royal family missed a trick.'My house is always a mess after Christmas. Then I found the easiest decluttering hack.' 'I just discovered this very specific hack for decluttering your kitchen drawers.''"Project Pan" is the hack to declutter your beauty cupboard.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Special Guest: Tina Burke Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Candle-making, flower sprinkles, bee voices and that damned jam we've been waiting for. With Love, Meghan is officially out (and no, Holly can't contain her excitement. We share our honest thoughts on Meghan Markle's (or should we say Meghan Sussex's?) brand-new Netflix home. Plus, a high school has banned mirrors in the kids’ bathrooms. We discuss whether or not that ban should be extended... to the world. And, there’s a cloud hanging over the latest season of Married At First Sight and it’s in the shape of domestic violence. We discuss the ethics of what's going down in front of the camera as well as what's happening behind the scenes of Australia's most watched show. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Resources: If you or someone you know is in need of support contact help is available: Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 What To Listen To Next: We've Got Some Feedback For The OscarsThe Spectacle Of Zelenskyy & Oscars' OutcastsThe New Things People Are Saying During SexThe Wicked Divorce In Superficial DetailThe Money Pushover & A Woman Named KarenUgly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet TheoryWe're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking AboutConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025The 13 things you definitely missed in With Love, Meghan.Meghan and Harry left the royal family for their kids. This is Archie and Lilibet's life now.The 50 celebrities who got Meghan Markle's exclusive jam.Meghan Markle's new era screams 'tradwife'. The truth is very different.Mamamia recaps MAFS: Battle lines have been drawn.The one scene we didn't see during the MAFS couples' retreat, according to Jacqui.The details that prove whether Rhi and Jeff from MAFS are still together.Mamamia recaps MAFS: It's time for some girl-on-girl crime. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Special Guest: Tina Burke Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you haven’t watched it, you’ve heard about it, if you haven’t heard about it, you felt it in the force on Saturday morning. Yes, we’re sitting down to unpack the viral moments from THAT oval office press conference, with US president Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance and President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Plus, why everyone, from reality TV stars to beleaguered celebrities are “speaking their truth” right now. We're asking them to please... stop. And, it’s Oscars' Day. From the drama around the film Emilia Pérez, and why it's lead actress Karla Sofía Gascón ditched the red carpet, to whether or not The Brutalist deserves to win an Oscar... when they admit to using AI. We're unpacking the controversies that led us to this year's red carpet. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: The New Things People Are Saying During SexThe Wicked Divorce In Superficial DetailThe Money Pushover & A Woman Named KarenUgly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet TheoryWe're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking AboutRachel Griffiths Took A Mid Sabbatical From EverythingConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025All the best looks from the 2025 Oscars Red Carpet.How do you sit down in these dresses? A very serious investigation.The night Kieran Culkin met Jazz Charton, he asked to be her boyfriend.Elon Musk just welcomed his (checks notes)... 14th child. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, prepare yourselves! We've witnessed something rare and spectacular – Jessie Stephens in full fan-girl mode. We're talking wide-eyed, can't-form-proper-sentences, borderline embarrassing levels of excitement. The cause of this meltdown? None other than the elusive figure behind one of Australia's most successful podcasts – Casefile's mysterious 'Casey' – who recently graced True Crime Conversations with his presence. To the true crime community, he's podcast royalty. A voice that has guided millions through some of history's darkest moments, all while maintaining his own anonymity. Some call him 'Casey', others 'that Casefile bloke', but nobody calls him by his real name... because nobody knows it! In this fascinating conversation with our own Gemma Bath, the man behind the microphone reveals: THE END BITS Subscribe to Mamamia CREDITS Guest: Casey Host: Gemma Bath Producer: Tahli Blackman Audio Producer: Jacob Round GET IN TOUCH If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636. Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, have you ever wondered what people who don't swear say during sex? Clean dirty talk, if you will. Wonder no more, friends, for we have a list of the most popular phrases to utter mid sexy time if you're not a potty mouth.They're... interesting. And, remember when AI was just a plot device in sci-fi movies with questionable fashion choices? Surprise. Now, the robots have infiltrated every corner of our existence – from grading kids' homework to diagnosing that weird rash you definitely didn't Google at 3am. But as our digital assistants get chattier than our actual colleagues, Jessie's been pondering: are we trading meaningful human connections for the convenience of having a cyber servant handle our admin? And what happens to our relationships when we'd rather text a chatbot than our actual friends? Brace yourselves for Jessie's hot take that might have you side-eyeing your smart speaker. Plus, Mia's new shoes, a beauty product you need to hear about, and the holy grail for picky eaters. And finally, our Best & Worsts of the week include: talking politicians, a boyfriend emergency, and one of us behaving so poorly she's claiming the official title of a "right cow". Moo. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named KarenUgly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet TheoryWe're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking AboutThe Fingering Renaissance The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All NeededConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Recommendations: Mia wants you to check out Puma Speedcat Trainers, Onitsuka Tigers, Style runner shoe jewellery and... Rag and Bone Miramar "Jeans" Holly wants you to check out Revolution Eye Bright Concealer Tan Jessie wants you to listen to Search Engine: Can you cure picky eating? What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025We've found the best sneakers you can walk long distances in.MIA FREEDMAN: 'The pants that divided the Internet a little bit.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Does it matter who a politician is married to? From Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese to defacto US president Elon Musk, we discuss what your partner says about you. Plus, Season 3 of The White Lotus has given us a new iconic female friendship group. Why Laurie, Jaclyn and Kate’s glossy toxic dynamic is cringingly familiar. And, with the end of awards season in sight, what do we really mean when we say we’re “worried” about the size of the women on the Hollywood red carpet? PS: You can't miss Holly's chat about her own Roman Empire... Timothée Chalamet. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: We're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking AboutThe Fingering Renaissance The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All NeededThe Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer CuteThe Great Attention ThiefThe Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral VideoA Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider VinegarConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025As Elon Musk’s custody battles are dragged into the spotlight, one video speaks volumes.The White Lotus just nailed the ugly friendship dynamic we all recognise.From Koh Samui to Phuket: All of The White Lotus Season 3 filming locations. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ruby Franke, the family vlogger mum, is behind bars for child abuse -- but what about her husband Kevin? We dive into the forgotten family member in this disturbing story and ask whether this case should make us rethink how we share our children's lives online. Plus, from Meghan Markle's vision board to the surge in The White Lotus hotel bookings, why is everyone suddenly feeling aspirational? And, everyone’s lonely, but no-one wants to make plans. Why we’re in the Year of the Flake - unless you’re Mia Freedman who's top of the leaderboard for mastering the pre-flake. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking AboutThe Fingering Renaissance The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All NeededThe Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer CuteThe Great Attention ThiefThe Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral VideoA Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider VinegarConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025'An open letter to whoever changed The White Lotus theme song.'18 months after her arrest, this is where Ruby Franke's kids are now.Ruby Franke's husband claimed he never knew of her abuse. He's just spoken again. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Need more hours in your day? Our very own Em Vernem is here with a special preview of her new podcast BIZ that's about to change your work life. In this episode: If you've ever felt overwhelmed at work, struggled with time management, or wished you could clone yourself, this episode is your new secret weapon. Because sometimes the smartest career move is learning to work smarter, not harder. Listen to more BIZ wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more: - Learn about Tim Ferriss’s 4 hour work week - Find the awesome Productivity Planner - More on Subtracting from Professor Leidy Klotz - More from Wes Kao Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here THE END BITS Support independent women's media. Follow the Biz Instagram, Michelle’s startup Sunroom and Soph’s career coaching business Workbaby. Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes - send us a voice note or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. HOSTS: Michelle Battersby, Soph Hirst and Em Vernem EXEC PRODUCER: Georgie Page AUDIO PRODUCER: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A very public sibling feud sent Mia down a rabbit hole — and we needed to unpack it. From empire control to public fallouts, we dive into the dramatic Murdoch family saga that's playing out in public. Plus, we explore a growing trend — sibling therapy. With family relationships becoming increasingly complex, should more siblings be heading to the therapist's couch together? Also, we have our recommendations for your weekend. Something a bit sexy, something a bit controversial and the book Amelia Lester can’t stop talking about. And... our best and worst of the week. From an embarrassing moment, one of us thinks she’s beautiful and the jeans that transformed a wardrobe. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: The Fingering Renaissance The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All NeededThe Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer CuteThe Great Attention ThiefThe Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral VideoA Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider VinegarConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Recommendations: Mia wants you to listen to Mamamia's spicy new podcast Butter Jessie wants you to watch The Apprentice on Stan Amelia wants you to read Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed, by Maureen Callahan What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After trademark troubles and delays with her original brand, our favourite ex-royal is giving it another go. Meghan Markle's new Instagram teaser still gives us those dreamy Montecito mansion vibes, but now with a different name and (presumably) fewer jams. Is this a strategic pivot or damage control? Either way, we're here for it. Plus, Elon Musk brought his kids to the White House, and it's giving major "bring your kids to work day" energy... except when your dad is the world's richest man and he's accused by some as using you as a prop in his latest political statement. We unpack the ethics of it all. And finally, forget everything you thought you knew about modern relationships because apparently open marriages are OUT and good old-fashioned affairs are IN. We dive into the essay that's got everyone clutching their pearls and asking: did we overthink this whole ethical non-monogamy thing? Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All NeededThe Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer CuteThe Great Attention ThiefThe Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral VideoA Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl'The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider VinegarConnect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 'I believe in my soul that Meghan Markle is trolling us and I'm eating it up.'Let them have smut: Inside the rise of erotica.Elon Musk just welcomed his 13th child. His response was... bizarre. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.