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The twice-weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mamamia's Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman and Jessie Stephens as they cover what everyone's talking about this week.

The twice-weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mamamia's Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman and Jessie Stephens as they cover what everyone's talking about this week.




The twice-weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mamamia's Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman and Jessie Stephens as they cover what everyone's talking about this week.








What Provokes Your Inner Pufferfish?

“All Lives Matter” - it’s a phrase that you might have seen peppered in the comment sections of news articles, images and videos across social media. So where did the phrase come from, and how do you talk to someone who won’t stop saying it? What makes you “Pufferfish”? In her most recent stand up special for Netflix, Hannah Gadsby jokes about the banal things that make her arc up just like a Pufferfish. Plus, you might have seen a story circulating on socials about a popular YouTuber Myka...


The Worst Photo Op In History

You’ve probably seen those black boxes popping up on Instagram. Jessie explains how this form of social media activism came about and why it’s hitting a sensitive nerve with so many people. Also, Trump would do ANYTHING for a good photo op. So, what was behind that picture of him at St. John’s church in Washington DC? And we’re five months out for the election. Does all this chaos signal the demise of Trump? We discuss. Plus, a listener dilemma from a mum whose 16 year old daughter is being...


US Protests And The Voices That Matter

The US is alive with protests following the death of George Floyd at the hands of a white police officer. In this episode, we speak to Kee Reece about what it feels like to be told you’re “not allowed to be angry” when black men and women are being killed because of the colour of their skin. We also speak to Gamilaroi activist Amanda Fotheringham about the parallels that can be drawn between the US and Australia when it comes to racially motivated violence. And for a complete change of tone...


We Can't Talk About This Woman's Face

“An African American is threatening my life”. This week, a video of a woman named Amy Cooper accusing a black man named Christian Cooper of threatening her has gone viral. At the same time, two other names have been circulating on social media: George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery. There is an interesting thread tying all three cases together. We discuss. Also, do you make quiet decisions or noisy decisions? It turns out, there’s a ‘right’ answer. Plus, Khloe Kardashian has changed her face and...


Everything We Ever Did Wrong

US talk show host Jimmy Fallon is the latest person to be slammed for a historic blackface incident which took place nearly 20 years ago. So, if you’re a public figure in 2020, should you just go ahead and confess to everything you’ve ever done wrong? Or just hold your breath until someone else finds it? Also, the Internet has given birth to the ‘Wine Mum’. Is this identity problematic? Or actually quite feminist? We discuss. Plus, actress and comedian Celeste Barber ended up raising $51...


The Complicated Appeal Of Kyle Sandilands

After teasing the audience about it for weeks, radio host Kyle Sandilands pulled a prank about having a serious health condition on the TV show 60 Minutes and people were furious. Should we expect more from a news program? And what is it about Kyle that so many Australians find appealing? Also, dubbed ‘generation boomerang’, 331,000 kids have moved back in with their parents because of COVID-19. Could this change in living arrangements be a good thing? We discuss. Plus, what’s Trump planning...


We Have Podcast Gossip

When a raunchy female-led dating podcast named ‘Call Her Daddy’ stopped dropping its weekly episodes, fans knew something was up. It turns out, hosts Alexandra Cooper and Sofia Franklyn are having a major dispute with each other and the company that owns their podcast. Mia unpacks this pod drama. Also, we were all scared at first. The fear evolved into tiredness and we’re now experiencing self-loathing as a result of failing to do the things we set out to do during lockdown. Are you sharing...


When You're An Andy Living With A Hamish

In an article published on Mamamia, Michaela Banks writes “As the parent of a child with a disability, Ann Marie Smith's death keeps me up at night."’. Ann Marie, 54, had cerebral palsy and required full-time care. It is alleged that she spent the final year of her life in a cane woven chair, malnourished and with no assistance when it came to her basic human needs. What can we learn from her devastating death? Also, how can an Andy bear living with a Hamish (or a Jessie)? In an interview...


Sex Regrets, We Have A Few

A global pandemic, a crashing economy, and social isolation have created a perfect storm for conspiracy theories. Some influencers and celebrities are playing a key role in undermining the mainstream media. So, why are ‘The Media’ suddenly the bad guys? Also, if there’s anything singer Justin Bieber regrets, it’s having had confusing (and potentially hot) sex in his youth before committing to his now wife Hayley. What’s our biggest sex regret? We discuss. Plus, should we resolve to do less...


The Royal Who Wished He Was A Tampon

This week, we learned that international travel might not “return to normal” until 2023. What will be the impact long term? And what does this mean when your family lives overseas? And details about the next season of The Crown have been released, and there’s one big moment in the whole Charles-Diana doomed love affair story that you’re NOT going to see - so what was ‘tampongate’? Plus, what do you do when your partner wants kids but you’ve changed your mind? We tackle a group therapy from...


The Bosses Who Want You To Work From Home Forever

Forever. That’s how long Twitter is letting its employees work from home as of today. We ask, is that necessarily a good thing? Also, “Don’t be too loud”, “don’t take up so much space”, “ don’t be too ambitious”. Could Glennon Doyle’s book Untamed be considered the new feminist manifesto? Plus, Normal People is Stan’s TV adaptation of the best-selling book by the same name. It’s a story about two people in love but who just can’t get it right. Some people love it and others don’t understand...


Chrissy Teigen, Anti-vaxxers and Jessie's Secret Brother

Before the recommencement of the 2020 NRL season, a number of safeguards were put in place. In line with Scott Morrison’s “no jab, no play” policy, all players were advised to have the flu injection to ensure the safety of all teams. Now, two players have lost their jobs for refusing the vaccine, and a subset of the league are furious. How do we feel about people’s jobs being conditional upon being vaccinated? Also, chef and writer Alison Roman is being widely criticised for comments she...


BONUS: What Do Daughters (Really) Think Of their Mums?

What if Jessie grabs hold of Mia and Holly’s daughters Coco and Matilda and asks them all the questions a mother never wants to hear the answer to? Well, that’s exactly what went down on this special Mother’s Day episode featuring 10 year old Matilda and 14 year old Coco. CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at Via our Outlouders Facebook page-...


It's Not About Adele

Pete Evans, of My Kitchen Rules, has recently parted ways with Channel Seven and Holly is scared silly that his views can now go unvetted. Is ‘cancel culture’ fuelling his extremist beliefs? And why is he not considered as a public health risk? Adele’s most recent photo has had 10 times more likes than any photo she’s ever posted. Some feel betrayed and others feel like she’s won. Why is this photo evoking such an intense response? For many of us who are on a dozen zoom calls a day, we’re...


There Are Two Types Of People And One Of Them's Infuriating

A video by Tomos Robertson went viral this week. In it, he recites a poem, imagining 2020 as a turning point in human history. Will our post-Covid world be a slower, gentler and more peaceful one? Or are we romanticising an awful moment? Also, you might be familiar with Poh and Reynold from the TV series MasterChef. While both chefs end up nailing their dishes, Poh is chaotic, overambitious and always rushed. Reynold, on the other hand, is like a well-oiled machine plotting everything to the...


Joe Biden Says He Didn’t Do It

Since restrictions have been eased in most states this weekend, Holly went and visited her brother-in-law, Jessie saw her family, and Mia went for a haircut. But what about the people we’re not seeing? Is this a new form of lockdown guilt we’re experiencing? Also, democratic nominee Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault by a former senate-aide named Tara Reade (not the actress by the way). So, what does this mean for the election? Plus, women who have just given birth are finding...


Adriene Mishler: The Patron Saint of Isolation

Women are OBSESSED with Yoga instructor Adriene Mishler and so are we. But now we’ve all semi-mastered at-home workouts, will we ever go back to the gym? What habits will stick and how difficult will some be to let go of once iso’s over? Also, women have been getting pubic hair transplants. Yes, that’s right and a scene from Stan’s Normal People showing a character’s pubic hair could be a sign of a new pube trend. So, can fashion find its way into our underpants? Let’s talk iso pubes. Plus,...


The Reason Reality Stars Are So Thin

Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s book ‘A Bigger Picture’ is out and seeing record sales. Mia had a chat with him this week and we’re wondering, what’s with the timing? And is he angry or relieved? Also, why are we still celebrating the weight loss of reality TV stars? Especially when they’re telling us it’s the result of stress, mental illness or a physical health issue? We discuss why reality stars appear to be getting thinner. Plus, are people in your life acting a bit... weird...


Ellen DeGeneres and the Slippery Slope of Likeability

Am I “exercising” if I’m walking but not wearing lycra? Am I “exercising” if I go for a quick swim and then rest on my towel? Where do we draw the line when it comes to social distancing rules on “exercising”? We discuss. Also, nostalgia for exes is real and it’s on the rise. So, is it due to loneliness? A need for redemption? Or is it because, with a global pandemic at hand, all bets are off? Plus, Ellen DeGeneres is one of the most loved celebrities of all time but things are taking a...


When Your Partner's Friends Really Don't Like You

Fact: Only 7% of the world’s population is governed by female leaders. With Corona engulfing the globe, male leader’s reactions to the crisis pale in comparison to their female counterparts. Yes, we compare and discuss. Also, we’re at home all day grazing and napping, so why in the world are we SO tired? Jessie coined this “iso fatigue”. Plus, if you know that your partner's group of friends don’t like you, should you make an effort? We unpack an Outlouder dilemma. LINKS Dr. Ali Mattu’s...