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Loom – Cane and Rinse No.616

5/28/2024
“This reckless defiance is intolerable.” Lucasfilm Games teamed up with Infocom's visionary creative Brian Moriarty in 1990 for the fifth of the studio's SCUMM-based point and click adventures, the whimsical and musical Loom. Leon, Chis Worthington, Jesse (who selected this game as his pick for the Volume) and Ryan - along with contributions from the Cane and Rinse community - pick their way stitch-by-stitch through this unusual and accessible yarn. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_616.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. The Overture by Tchaikovsky/George Sanger/Eric Hammond2. Main Theme by Tchaikovsky/George Sanger/Eric Hammond Edited by Ryan Zhao You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:55:24

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Pikmin 2 – Cane and Rinse No.615

5/21/2024
“Ready for another day of toiling for the profit of your company?” Somehow, nearly six years has passed since we covered the original Pikmin back in podcast issue 321. 20 years on from the sequel's original GameCube release in Japan, we get cosy with Pikmin 2. Leon, Brian, Chris O'Regan plus community contributors weigh in on Nintendo's much-expanded and divisive follow-up. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_615.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. Title Screen by Hajime Wakai/Kazumi Totaka2. Treasure Salvation Results by Hajime Wakai/Kazumi Totaka Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:55

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A Plague Tale: Innocence – Cane and Rinse No.614

5/14/2024
"I won't ask again. Where is your son?" A lovable set of siblings, a journey of hope, and a billion rats. Brian, James, Jon and Karl revisit A Plague Tale: Innocence to examine whether or not the story of Hugo and Amicia remains relevant. Come for the discussion, stay for the rat tornadoes. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_614.mp3 Music featured in this Issue: 1. A Plague Tale by Olivier Deriviere2. Freedom by Olivier Deriviere Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:41

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Cyberpunk 2077 – Cane and Rinse No.613

5/7/2024
“To our dreams. For they alone keep us sane.” With the game having been released for over three years, and actually finished for a few months now (at the time of recording), we felt we could finally take a proper look at Cyberpunk 2077. Leon, Jay, Rich and Ryan head down to Night City's scuzzy streets for a full and frank appraisal of CDPR's expensive and expansive future-GTA. We also hear from the Cane and Rinse community and assess what ambitious DLC expansion Phantom Liberty brought to the party. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_613.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. V by Marcin Przyby?owicz/P.T. Adamczyk/Paul Leonard-Morgan2. Phantom Liberty by Dawid Podsiadlo/P.T. Adamczyk/Marcin Przybylowicz Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:43

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X-Men Origins: Wolverine – Cane and Rinse No.612

4/30/2024
“A bridge to nowhere, mon frère. Au revoir!” James, Karl, Leah, and Tony go on an intrepid adventure through the Angolan jungle and Canadian Rockies hot on the trail of everyone’s favourite Canadian can opener.It’s not often that a movie tie-in outshines its movie, but back in 2009 Raven Software seemed to achieve that with X-Men Origins: Wolverine. We know Logan ages gracefully, but will his game fare so well? http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_612.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. New Orleans Combat 2 by Paul Haslinger2. Credits Screen by Paul Haslinger Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:27

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The Sausage Factory: 490 – CLeM by Mango Protocol

4/26/2024
Chris O'Regan interviews Mariona Valls and Jordi Garcia of Mango Protocol about the design and development of CLeM, a comedy horror adventure game. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/sausage/TSF_Episode490.mp3 Music featured is by Pau Damià Riera and the sound track can be purchased from here:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2794370/CLeM__Original_Soundtrack/ 1. Wisdom2. Intelligence3. Loyalty The Sausage Factory 490 was edited by Chris O'Regan The Sausage Factory is an interview-based podcast that lifts the lid on the makers of videogames. It examines the way in which games are made by asking the very people who create them, though the questions asked aren't just about game design, they also cover how developers made their start and what inspires them as creators. Split into two halves, the first segment delves into what makes the developers tick by asking about how they started, what and who inspires them and what games they are currently playing, whereas the second part of the show covers the game that they are currently working on and the thought processes behind its development. So, if you really want to hear about a game's gestation in full and frank detail then you have found the right podcast.

Duración:00:47:44

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Super Mario Land – Cane and Rinse No.611

4/23/2024
“OH! DAISY DAISY” Four years since we covered Super Mario Odyssey, and 35 years after its release, it's time for Super Mario Land to get the Cane and Rinse podcast treatment. Leon, Chris Worthington, James and Leah raid the cupboards in search of enough batteries to beat the platforming plumber's first portable outing. Which isn't many batteries. Because the game is really short. As usual we also get memories and opinions shared by a number of the game's 18 million plus players as we await Super Mario Land's arrival on the Nintendo Switch. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_611.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. Marine & Sky Pop by Hirokazu Tanaka2. Muda Kingdom by Hirokazu Tanaka Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:44

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Yakuza: Like A Dragon – Cane and Rinse No.610

4/16/2024
"I'm Sure All Of Us Here Are A Little Crazy" From the Dragon of Dojima to the Hero of Yokohama, what was old is new again. Join Brian, Karl, Leah and Rich as they examine Yakuza: Like a Dragon. Are the shifts in genre and protagonist enough to elevate this evolutionary title? http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_610.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. Survival KAN-HIROI by Hidenori Shoji/Yuri Fukuda/Chihiro Aoki/Saori Yoshida2. SENKA NO MAGO NO TE by Hidenori Shoji/Yuri Fukuda/Chihiro Aoki/Saori Yoshida Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:05

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NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… – Cane and Rinse No.609

4/9/2024
“These things happen the second time around.” "Version Upgrade" NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… arrived just over a decade after the original(s), promising a slicker experience and new lore to add to Yoko Taro's intricate mix. Leon, Leah (who nominated this one for the podcast having missed out on our original show back in 2014), James and Sean break down the themes as best they can, with invaluable contributions from forum and Patreon contributors. We address some of the more controversial aspects of the piece, and a wide range of opinions on overall experience are offered. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_609.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Fleeting Words by Keiichi Okabe/Kakeru Ishihama/Keigo Hoashi/Takafumi Nishimura2. Snow in Summer by Keiichi Okabe/Kakeru Ishihama/Keigo Hoashi/Takafumi Nishimura Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:47

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Bruce Lee – Cane and Rinse No.608

4/2/2024
“When you finally reach the wizard keep away from the fireballs streaming from his eyes.” More than a decade after his untimely death, Datasoft released this 8-bit computer game based upon the legend of Hong Kong/US martial arts movie star, Bruce Lee. Leon, Chris O'Regan and Jesse - along with contributions from the wonderful Cane and Rinse community - dissect this brief but punchy action platformer with kung fu elements, from its intriguing opening to its surreally simple conclusion. We also take a look at the game's many ports, successors and fan-made follow-up. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_608.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Intro (C64) by John A. Fitzpatrick Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:36:11

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Castlevania: Rondo of Blood – Cane and Rinse No.607

3/26/2024
“Driven by madness, they made a pact with the devil…” Leaping back over the drawbridge of doom and into the castle of mystery, we dance a do-si-do to the Rondo of Blood. Leon, Leah, Michiel, Rich(ter) and community contributors analyse and review the appeal of this cult, hipster classic, as well as taking a glance at the game's ports, conversions, rereleases and remakes in our latest Akumajo Dracula show - our Castlevania: Rondo of Blood issue. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_607.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. Overture (Introduction) by Akira Souji/Keizo Nakamura/Tomoko Sano/Mikio Saito2. March of the holy men by Akira Souji/Keizo Nakamura/Tomoko Sano/Mikio Saito Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:51

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Metroid Prime 3: Corruption – Cane and Rinse No.606

3/19/2024
“Suit diagnostic complete: All systems functional.” We round off our coverage of Retro Studios' Phazon trilogy with our Metroid Prime 3: Corruption deep-dive review. Leon, Brian and Leah - along with contributions from our faithful community crew - suit up and blast off to strange, new alien worlds in search of a lasting peace. With 17 years of hindsight, what did the motion controls and much-maligned 'waggle' bring to the Samus experience? http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_606.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. Title Theme by Kenji Yamamoto/Minako Hamano/Masaru Tajima2. Bryyo Main Theme by Kenji Yamamoto/Minako Hamano/Masaru Tajima edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:54

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Brave Fencer Musashi – Cane and Rinse No.605

3/12/2024
"Stupid costumes? Take that back! You... You little turd!" In the late 1990s, a swashbuckling and experimental Square released a Zelda-like action RPG based on historic samurai, Miyamoto Musashi. Why not, eh? Join Chris Worthingon, Brian, Dan and Leah as we look at whether the game (like the legend of Musashi himself) has stood the test of time.* *Our apologies for the audio issue regarding one of the feeds, folks - accidents happen from time to time. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_605.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. The Musashi Legend by Tsuyoshi Sekito2. Allucaneet Palace by Tsuyoshi Sekito Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:58:33

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Katamari Damacy series – Cane and Rinse No.604

3/5/2024
“The katamari. The Prince. Where the first rolls the second follows. Roll, roll, roll.” Cane and Rinse is on a roll this week as Ryan, Jesse, Leah, and Chris take a twenty-year trip through the history of Katamari Damacy, from the PlayStation 2 original to the PS Vita conclusion and all of the spinoffs and delisted mobile games in between. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_604.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Katamari on the Rocks ~ Main Theme by Yuu Miyake2. Cherry Tree Times by Yuu MiyakeEdited by Ryan Zhao You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:48

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Hi-Fi Rush – Cane and Rinse No.603

2/27/2024
“Do you have ANY idea how difficult it is to make something people actually want to buy?” A relatively up-to-date title for our latest podcast, and the second team selection of 2024. It's Hi-Fi Rush! Leon, Brian, Leah and Tony (who picked this game for the show) - along with contributions from the Cane and Rinse Patreons and forumites - get on down with Tango Gameworks character rhythm-action shadow drop banger. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_603.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Climb the Tower by Shuichi Kobori/Reo Uratan/Masatoshi Yanagi2. Making Things is Hard by Shuchi Kobori feat. John JohannasEdited by Jay TaylorYou can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:57

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Stacking – Cane and Rinse No.602

2/20/2024
“Ain't no Mess we Can't Address!!” The first team-curated selection of the year goes to Double Fine's Stacking. Leon, Brian (who chose this one for the volume), Ryan, Tony and contributors from the Cane and Rinse community nestle into director Lee Petty's marvelous marriage of matryoshka and mystification. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_602.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Intro by Peter McConnell2. Lounging Around by Peter McConnellEdited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:16

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Strider Hiryu – Cane and Rinse No.601

2/13/2024
“THEY CAME FROM THE THIRD MOON WITH ANCIENT MONSTERS.” We're back, yet again, for our thirteenth year of podcasts, and we kick off 2024 with a look at a 35 year-old arcade stunner. Leon, Chris Worthington, Michiel and Sean dash and slash their way through Capcom's coin-op of choreographed set-pieces, Strider Hiryu. Along with contributions from the Cane and Rinse community, we also investigate Strider's precursors, ports, the spin-offs and successors. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_601.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Wild Beast by Junko Tamiya2. Short Spin by Junko TamiyaEdited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:02:00:02

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Demon’s Souls – Cane and Rinse No.600

1/23/2024
“Let strength be granted, so the world might be mended.” Wrapping up another year of Cane and Rinse podcasts, we revisit Demon's Souls, this time focusing on the PlayStation launch remake from 2020, put together by Bluepoint Games. Leon, James, Rich, Tom and community contributors drift about the Nexus, boasting of builds, strats and boss techniques. Of course we also consider the game's system-selling paint-job, and any aesthetic pros and cons that come with this comprehensive audiovisual 'glow-up'. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_600.mp3 Music featured in this issue:1. Main Theme by Shunsuke Kida2. Origins by Shunsuke KidaEdited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:58:53

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Into the Breach – Cane and Rinse No.599

1/16/2024
“Retrieving Compliment: 'Jolly good show!'” When we covered Subset's previous game, FTL back in... wait, what? Apparently we didn't. Perhaps in the future then. Anyway, here we are with mech vs. Vek strategic manoeuvres in Subset's sophomore effort, Into the Breach. Leon, Brian, Chris O'Regan, James and community contributors wrangle robots and defy insectoid kaiju in this issue of the podcast. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_599.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. Open a Breach by Ben Prunty2. Into the Breach by Ben Prunty Edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:58:39

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Slay the Spire – Cane and Rinse No.598

1/9/2024
“At least… confront the first boss…” Seattle didn’t invent grunge or coffee shops, but it certainly popularised them. Seattle's Mega Crit didn’t invent roguelike deck builders, but… you get the idea. James, Chris O'Regan, Jesse and Leah venture ever upwards to confront the Corrupted Heart and ultimately Slay the Spire! http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_598.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. The City by Clark Aboud2. Meet the Merchant by Clark Aboud Edit by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

Duración:01:59:29