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In this candid discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins share their unconventional parenting approach, which includes a form of physical correction they call "bopping." Despite the controversy surrounding their methods, the couple argues that their approach is rooted in cultural practices and evolutionary psychology. They discuss the differences between abuse and discipline, the importance of setting boundaries, and why they believe their methods are ultimately in the best interest of their children. Malcolm and Simone also delve into the challenges of parenting in the modern world, the limitations of existing research on corporal punishment, and the potential consequences of relying solely on emotional punishment. While they acknowledge that their approach may not be suitable for every child or family, they stand firm in their belief that parents should have the right to raise their children in accordance with their cultural values.' [00:00:00] We can't do it, man! That's discipline! We don't believe in rules like we gave them up when we started living like freaky beatniks. . Yeah, you've got to help us, Doc. We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Most, perhaps all, the blame rests with the parents. Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them? lost your god damn mind! I guess I just hate to see a child go unbeaten. Malcolm Collins: now I need to talk for a few minutes about why I find the research so distrustworthy in this space. One, you're proceeding into the research from a prior that this is a human rights abuse. Whenever anyone says every expert in a field agrees on something, I pretty much immediately dismiss it. Because I'm like, that just doesn't happen in science when science is Simone Collins: happening correctly. There is always nuance in finding what's happening Malcolm Collins: correctly If you look [00:01:00] at what the research is saying, it's this has a massive IQ effect. This has a massive effect on aggression. These people become antisocial and aren't able to They hate their parents, et cetera. If these things were true at the levels that they're saying these things are true. Every single long lived culture on Earth would not have convergently evolved this method of interacting with children during this developmental stage. What is really negative and what we are against is. Is any form of punishment where the pain is the point of the punishment? what happens during a bop? It is a light slap on the child's nose or face that is meant to shock and redirect and refocus attention. The reason we do the face is because It requires much less pain to get the same reaction than doing something like slapping the wrist. Don't really do this for four year olds and up with our kids two to four range, because with my [00:02:00] four year old, I can say this could kill you and he can begin to cognitively understand that. Two to four, you don't really get that. And so when you need to denote, no, this is an extra level of don't do this when compared to other things I have told you not to do the only way to denote that other than physicality. Is by emotionally elevating the conversation. And I think that causes more emotional damage if you read the article, it says exactly what happened in the context. He was about to push over a table I did the bop to reorient him because he knew he wasn't supposed to be doing that, but then I immediately tell him I love him. Now, this isn't something I can do if I'm punishing him through the emotional means. Exactly. If I had elevated the conversation emotionally, now I need to say daddy's mad at you, instead of saying, bop, you crossed a line, but daddy loves you, and this is the problem, right? So the urban monoculture would say to us, what you're doing is culturally non normative, stop it. And I'm like, I have seen the [00:03:00] results of your normative parenting style. These kids are Miserable, anxiety,...

In this thought-provoking episode, Malcolm and Simone delve into France's recent policy proposals aimed at combating the country's falling fertility rates. They analyze President Emmanuel Macron's plan, which includes offering fertility checks for young people, implementing a "birth leave" scheme, and introducing a possible "duty to visit" for fathers in single-parent families. Malcolm and Simone discuss the potential impact of these policies, highlighting the ineffectiveness of fertility checks in encouraging parenthood and the unintended consequences of mandating father involvement. They also touch on the importance of equitable divorce laws, the myth of the two-parent household, and the role of cultural factors in shaping fertility outcomes. Throughout the conversation, the couple emphasizes the need for policymakers to focus on fostering a culture that values family formation and pronatalism, rather than implementing misguided policies that may exacerbate the problem. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, this is Malcolm and Simone here and we are happy to be talking about some pronatalist and policy today. Today's episode is going to be focused on France's recent policy proposals to combat demographic collapse. However, I have not seen them. So Simone is going to be presenting them to me, and you are going to be getting my in real time reaction. Would you like to know more? Simone Collins: Yeah, so I recently came across this telegraph article was published, I think, a little earlier this month, but it's about policies that have been discussed for a while. It's called France to offer young people, fertility tax to combat falling fertility rates. And it discusses a couple of policies, which at best. Not going to do anything at worst are probably going to cause damage at least unless I'm crazy. I want your take on this so the gist is that France's president Emmanuel [00:01:00] Macron is laudable for recognizing demographic collapse as an issue and talking about it France's fertility rate relative to the rest of the EU is actually pretty good. Malcolm Collins: It, but it had a massive collapse this last year. It did. 70 percent year over year. Simone Collins: They're still above the EU average. They're still above the UK. They're still above Germany and they're still above Spain. So like generally speaking, France is, the one that looks good maybe because it's a little more Catholic. Who knows? There's a lot. No. It's because it's less Catholic. Oh, Malcolm Collins: really? Yeah. If you contrast it with other countries, it's actually more secular. And again, this is what we've seen across a lot of things is that the more Catholic a country is in Europe, the lower its fertility rate was the average Catholic majority country in Europe having a fertility rate of only 1. 3. Simone Collins: Yeah. But that makes sense then. But anyway they still recognize it's a problem. I really appreciate that. So they get points for that. All right. Petty points for that. But the latest thing that Emmanuel Macron. Prince's president has proposed is fertility checks for young people. He's trying to [00:02:00] get people to test their fertility earlier. But quite honestly, doing so isn't going to boost fertility. Malcolm Collins: It sounds like an interesting idea from the Simone Collins: article. I'll read what they say. Emmanuel Macron is. To offer fertility checks to all 18 to 25 year olds as part of a grand plan to combat declining fertility rates, the French president first announced his ambition to enact French demographic rearmament, which that's fun. That's a fun term. At a press conference on January 16th, as part of a wide array of measures aimed at reviving his stuttering second term. I don't think that's going to help and I can tell you why, but I want to hear why you think that's interesting and worth trying. Malcolm Collins: So what age ranges 18 to 25? Why wouldn't this? It's a great idea actually. So it's very...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone delve into the reasons behind the far left's visceral reactions to traditional, wholesome lifestyles. They explore how the ultra-progressive ideology views emotional pain as a form of violence and how this leads to a disdain for happy, heteronormative relationships. The couple also touches on the concerning trend of trans activists targeting vulnerable communities, particularly lesbians and autistic children. Simone shares her unique perspective as a former progressive woman now living a fulfilling, traditional life with Malcolm. Join them as they unpack the complexities of this controversial topic and shed light on the importance of specialization and trust in healthy relationships. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] any form of emotional pain is considered a form of violence and something that should be systematically avoided. So if it Simone Collins: causes you pain through cognitive dissonance, like maybe I would have wanted to have, we're going Malcolm Collins: to get there. We're going to get there, but you jumped to the answer, but we got to get to their point by point. I was watching lesbians complaining about their communities being invaded and I just can't imagine What it would feel like . Imagine you're living in a society where like space Marines exist. Okay. There are these people that are 20 percent larger than you, five times stronger than you.. But now these people who are very sexually aggressive are demanding that you suck their penises. And now everyone who you thought before was like part of your safe space is now saying that you're a bigot and you're not really straight because you won't suck these men's penises and so now you're kicked out of even these safe [00:01:00] spaces. Honestly, I think that's Simone Collins: how it feels. That's how it feels to them, for sure. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone! I'm excited to be here with you today! And I want to talk about an idea that I had recently, and I actually had it a while ago, but it's something that I've really been reflecting on in my thinking, is the vitriol we see certain, far left, urban monoculture activists react to wholesome things with. Simone Collins: And how do you find wholesome here? Malcolm Collins: What you're doing right now, being with your kid, they'll see a loving family. Or they'll see. They're like, that looks so heteronormative. That looks so no. You see this, you'll see a trad wife and they'll be like, this isn't a, this is misogynistic Simone Collins: for Malcolm Collins: her to be living this life or for her to be in a happy relationship with a [00:02:00] straight white man and here I can put the, I've been attacked You went out with a white male? I was a freshman. Fresh person Malcolm Collins: and I have been thinking why this. Extremist reaction to this. And it occurred to me that from the perspective of ultra far left ideology wholesomeness and a wholesome lifestyle. is literally a lifestyle of violence. It is a form of violence against marginalized communities from their perspective, they would call marginalized communities. How Simone Collins: so if it's 100 percent sovereign in one's own Malcolm Collins: house? Exactly. How because that is an interesting question. And so we need to go into their world structure. So the first aspect of their world structure that we need to understand is it is a cultural system that is completely defined. And I talk about this all the time, so I'll be very quick in summarizing this. Defined around any form of emotional pain is [00:03:00] considered a form of violence and something that should be systematically avoided. So if it Simone Collins: causes you pain through cognitive dissonance, like maybe I would have wanted to have, we're going Malcolm Collins: to get there. We're going to get there, but you jumped to the answer, but we got to get to their point by point. So you look at something...

The Site Simone Mentioned: https://www.emigal.com/2022/01/16/blood-testing-focused-on-longevity/ Our Discord: https://discord.gg/EGFRjwwS92 In this eye-opening episode, Malcolm and Simone share their harrowing experiences with the failures of the modern medical system. From being denied prophylactic rabies vaccines for their children to not being informed about elevated lead levels in their daughter's blood, the couple realizes that the focus of the current healthcare system is on bureaucratic compliance and liability rather than patient outcomes. They discuss the importance of taking personal ownership of their family's health by proactively monitoring blood work, conducting regular scans, and staying informed about cutting-edge research. Malcolm and Simone also explore the idea of creating a network of like-minded physicians and families to support each other as the infrastructure of society begins to break down. Throughout the conversation, they touch on topics such as the Sinclair method for treating alcoholism, the failings of nationalized healthcare systems, and the impressive efficiency of South Korea's medical industry. Simone Collins: [00:00:00] any normal parent would pull that up, look at it and be like 3 means. But I'm not getting any alerts. Malcolm Collins: I'm not being told by anyone, So it must be fine. So it must be fine Simone Collins: we weren't really paying attention or taking ownership of it ourselves. Instead, we were like, Oh, if no one's telling me anything's wrong, I guess nothing's wrong, which was apparently a really bad approach I don't know why we didn't assume that this was also happening with the medical system, but the focus of this system is not on patient outcomes, it is on bureaucratic compliance and ass covering and justification of bureaucratic structures, Malcolm Collins: what I want to do here is take this opportunity for not just for our family, but for the network of families that makes up our community. This is something you can join if you're like, my family would benefit from this. But what we also need to make this realistically implementable for us is like minded medical professionals who are interested in, providing a new type of telehealth, basically where they're much more like [00:01:00] a thesis advisor. By that, what I mean is the patient can't just decide on anything themselves. They need to then take all of their research to the doctors, say, here's this study, here's this study, here's this study. And I think as a result, given the symptoms are given this, I should be prescribed X which again, creates reasons for value aligned families to group together and support each other. As the bureaucratic infrastructure of our society is beginning to break down. Because it is. It's not just the school systems. It's not just the infrastructure that's falling apart. Civilization is essentially falling apart around us. would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone We are coming into this episode I will start with mitching and ask for anyone who fits this criteria and doesn't make it to the end of the episode but we are looking for values aligned individuals Uh, with MD, so value aligned doctors, and we're likely going to create a list for different states for our listeners to directly contact [00:02:00] them, but obviously we would really love one either outside Pennsylvania, but preferably was in Pennsylvania due to some prescribing laws. But the reason we need to make this ask is that we have. Completely lost faith in the, I guess I'd call it bureaucratic medical institutions in the United States and largely in the world because I, I lost faith in the NHS when I was living in the UK and I was like at least in the U S because as profit driven, et cetera. And now I have realized that I should have been putting as much stock in these institutions, having my back. Children's best interest at heart as I had put in the school system, having my Children's...

In this eye-opening episode, Malcolm and Simone delve into the disturbing connection between Qatar's funding of US universities and the alarming rise of antisemitism on college campuses. They discuss how Qatar, a major sponsor of Hamas, has become the largest state donor to American higher education, and how this financial influence has led to a suppression of free speech and an increase in anti-Israel rhetoric. The couple also examines the recent attacks on Israel by Hamas, the dehumanizing treatment of Jewish students at universities like Columbia and Harvard, and the concerning statements made by professors and activists celebrating violence against Israelis. Throughout the conversation, Malcolm and Simone shed light on the geopolitical complexities of the Middle East, the role of authoritarian governments in spreading antisemitism, and the importance of defending civilization against barbarism. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone! It is wonderful to be here today, and we are going to be doing an episode today which I think really elevates why the disintermediation of the traditional news system To online vloggers, because this is something you see increasingly in terms of how are people getting their information about the world Simone Collins: is Malcolm Collins: actually very important to getting an honest understanding of reality so long as you're choosing the right people to listen to. And this episode is going to be the type of thing. That you would never see on one of the mainstream news stations. And I'm just gonna give the top notes right now for people who are like, okay, I get the story. I'm gonna click off before we go into too much detail. But it is the fact that Hamas, one of the largest donors to Hamas, like one of the largest funders of Hamas, the people who started this war in Israel, okay? They are also the largest state donor [00:01:00] to the most U. S. 's large universities or to the university system in the U. S. Iran? I know, right? That's what you would think. No. I don't think they lost in Iran. What's, what? It is Qatar or Qatar, depending on how you look at it. F*****g obsequious you are because I always hate when people play little words with oh, you're not saying Qatar, right? I call it American Simone Collins: accent. So it's Malcolm Collins: Qatar As a quick side note, if you were wondering, who is the bigger supporter of Hamas, Iran or Qatar? Qatar has given Hamas over a $1.8 billion. And I ran gives them Something like a hundred million to 350 million. That's what they gave them last year, a year. so in terms of just financial costs, Qatar is the bigger supporter if Hamas, but I ran plays a big role in giving them lots of military supplies and training. So in terms of integration, was there political elite? I ran is a bigger supporter. Malcolm Collins: Yeah, so people [00:02:00] are like wait, I didn't know this. Why you why didn't I know this? Why didn't I know that this? They heavily funded Hamas. Why did I not know that they were also the largest state donor to U. S. university systems? And this matters downstream when you are looking at the university policy that is allowing this rampant antisemitism on campuses. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Because a lot of people they're like, Oh, I'm going to not donate to my university because of this. Like a lot of, Jewish families are saying that right now and stuff like that. And what they don't realize that they're like, why are universities still doing this? From a financial perspective, why are they still doing this? Being so neutral. Why is it when you had, there was this great moment where Gay the head of one of these universities I'm gay. Yeah, the head of Harvard at the time. Simone Collins: Who then subsequently had some plagiarism problems. And yeah. So she Malcolm Collins: responded that hateful speech is at odds with Harvard's values and that calling for the genocide of Jews is anti Semitic, but...

In this eye-opening episode, Malcolm and Simone dive deep into the current state of the publishing industry, revealing shocking statistics about book sales, author earnings, and the strategies employed by major publishing houses. The couple discusses the alarming decline in reading habits among Americans and the dominance of a select few authors in the bestseller lists. Malcolm shares startling figures from the antitrust case between Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster, exposing the industry's reliance on celebrity books and backlist titles. The couple also examines the disappointing sales of books by well-known figures with substantial social media followings. Throughout the conversation, they offer valuable advice for aspiring authors, emphasizing the importance of exploring alternative platforms like YouTube, podcasts, and Substack to reach and engage audiences effectively. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] That means authors are earning roughly between 18, 000 and 180, 000 on a New York Times bestseller. Keep in mind now, these are being split with the publishing houses, If you write a book and you get accepted and you get paid by penguin random house, you have a 96 percent chance of selling less than a thousand copies. Okay Ilyan Omar from the squad, She has a significant social media presence with 3 million Twitter followers. And another 1. 3 million on Instagram, yet her book, has sold only Simone Collins: 26, Malcolm Collins: 000 copies. Piers Morgan. Simone Collins: Okay. Malcolm Collins: 8 million on followers on Twitter. In the U. S. it sold just 5, 650 copies. how are these big publishing houses staying in business? And it is Bibles celebrity books like Britney Spears books and their backlist. It is not on things that are intellectually enriching the population. These two market categories, celebrity books and repeated bestsellers from the backlist, make up the entirety of the publishing industry and even fund [00:01:00] their project, publishing all the rest of the books we think about when we think about book publishing. That is basically a vanity project. How do they approach people? What they are thinking about when they go out and approach people is how can I turn their preexisting follower base into money. Simone Collins: Yeah. They're looking for a platform. They only care about your platform. And I think they're starting to Malcolm Collins: realize though, that even the platform doesn't sell Simone Collins: This conversation is really relevant to people who are thinking about writing a book, Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone! We are gonna do a stats heavy episode today, which I am excited about, and I hope I ordered these stats well to make a narrative. But it is on reading in America, the state of reading, and what the publishing industry is turning into. And how it's transforming the way books are being published, the type of books that are being published, and the type of books that are being read. [00:02:00] So first, let's just, I'm going to do a lot of quoting here in this episode. This is from Pew. Almost a third of Americans don't read books at all, and according to the U. S. Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the ones that do spend only 16 minutes per day reading. Compare that to the average Netflix watcher who spends close to 3 hours per day consuming video content. At that pace, a watcher might get through 681 movies in a year, while a reader gets through only 16 books. And that's presuming those 15 minutes are spent reading books. And keep in mind, it was just reading, so that could be newspaper, that could be online content, and goodness knows I'd fudge those numbers. . Even this year when leisure time increased as a result of the pandemic, novels saw only a subtle increase in sales over last year by 2. 8%. News consumption, however, saw an increase of 215%. Most of that time taking place on Facebook, 23 minutes per day, [00:03:00] Google, 14 minutes...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins delve into the phenomenon of "tradwives" and the modern misconceptions surrounding traditional relationships. They argue that much of the current "trad" movement is more akin to BDSM power exchange dynamics than genuine traditional family structures. The hosts explore the historical roles of women in traditional relationships, highlighting the importance of financial empowerment and partnership. They also discuss the dangers of idealizing consumerized fantasies of traditional relationships, which can lead to instability and dissatisfaction. Malcolm and Simone emphasize the importance of building relationships based on mutual affection, romance, and care, rather than strict, inflexible roles. They also examine the generational factors that have contributed to the fracturing of cultural norms and the challenges faced by younger generations in reconstructing healthy relationship models. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] so much of what the trad phenomenon has become, I would say is actually more of a descendant of BDSM community behavior. Simone Collins: Yes. In actual Malcolm Collins: trad behavior. It is a live in 24, seven slave relationship. Little power exchange. Yes. Yeah. Power, total power exchange relationship. They have. Covered in the costume of traditionalism. The tradwife TikTokers and Tumblers and YouTubers that you are seeing are to a traditional relationship what hardcore porn is to a real sexual relationship with a woman. It is a consumerized format meant to masturbate a pacific. subset of your sort of mental landscape. It is not really what it is like to be in that sort of a relationship. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone, it is wonderful to be talking to you today. [00:01:00] Today we are going to have an episode in defense of traditionalism. And people can know we've done some videos anti traditionalist, where we argue that a lot of, Trad wifing and stuff like that is really over idealizing a model of family structure from a very limited portion of United States history that isn't really indicative of any large cultural movement. It was more what was just being sold by Hollywood at the time. And people today, they're like, Oh, Hollywood lies to us and gives us unrealistic expectations. And I'm like they were doing that in the fifties too. Like this. This isn't a new phenomenon, buddy. And they're like, Oh s**t, it was always a lie. But I want to go on a few paths with this. So first I have heard people criticize trad wives and trad families as a LARP [00:02:00] recently. And this really got to me because All cultural frameworks are a LARP. You are always LARPing your culture. When you are an ultra Orthodox Jew and you are putting on your little outfit every day and you are doing all of the cultural things that you do, what makes it a LARP? It is. Live action and roleplay as being what you are that helps remind you of who you are. Roleplaying as something that is differential from the mainstream societal expectations helps you maintain a differential value set, which is what the Trad families are often trying to do. But at the same time as I talk about how great trad families are, I also want to talk about this concept because I want to narrowly say this type of trad family is great, but there's been something that's been talked about a lot recently, which [00:03:00] is the trad wife to single mom pipeline, that recently happened with Laura Southern quite famously. And so the question is how, why is this happening? Why, okay. Are these trad relationships not as stable as they were in a historic context in leading to really negative outcomes, particularly for women. And this is where we're going to talk about trad wife is communism. But we'll get to that later in the video. But for, before I go further, I want to hear your thoughts on any of this. Simone Collins: Yeah, I've been watching a lot of the trad wife to...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm Collins presents a new framework for understanding the evolution of human mindsets and personal development. Inspired by the shortcomings of existing models like Spiral Dynamics, Malcolm's tree-like structure outlines various branches of mental states, ranging from animalism and perceptualism to utilitarianism, mysticism, and pragmatism. He explains how individuals can progress through these stages, sometimes regressing or becoming stuck in suboptimal states. Malcolm and Simone explore the implications of this framework, discussing how it can help people identify their current mindset, understand the potential pitfalls of each branch, and navigate towards more intellectually sophisticated and mentally healthy states. They also delve into the practical applications of this model and debate its utility for personal growth and cross-cultural understanding. [00:00:00] Malcolm Collins: Hello simone Today, we are going to do one of those episodes that excites me so much. I have put so much effort into today's content, and I know it will do horrible in the algorithm, but it's a development of my view of the world further, where I feel that because of this revelation I've had, where I'm like, oh, now I understand things better when I have systematized them in this way. So it's a Simone Collins: paradigm shift. Yeah, Malcolm Collins: my paradigm shift for me. Yeah. Simone Collins: Yeah. Okay. Malcolm Collins: And it actually came from reading about a theory that I find very distasteful, which is spiral dynamic. So I ended up, because it was a paradigm shift, I wanted to write it down. So I'll read what I've written down and we can talk about it. Okay. Like I used to do with the tracks. Sounds good. Yeah. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: The idea of spiral dynamics has come up a few times when talking to fans, and since then, I have noticed some related channels like [00:01:00] HoMath, WhatIfAltHist, and Brittany Simon delineating level systems for how people evolve in their thinking. Anyone who knows us knows how viscerally negatively we would react to such a system at first glance, given that humans seem to have a natural inclination to categorize themselves and others based on simplistic criteria. If you don't understand why this would create a negative reaction, just watch any video on Spiral Dynamics and watch the person explaining the concept, happily classifying leaders of the political opposition to their beliefs among the examples of the lower order mindsets. All Spiral Dynamics really gets right is a broad ordering of the very lowest levels of personal development and then transitions into a moral and religious system at most of the two tier systems and beyond. Though, I suppose it is only axiomatic that an individual cannot accurately predict mindsets that are above their own. Thus, if they are at a relatively low level of personal development, will just project a mystical pseudo [00:02:00] religious worldview as being the higher order mindset. However, despite dismissing these systems early on, I began to think more about the ways humans relate to each other. relate to reality, a life well lived, and a self conception about how those systems build upon others, and it helped me realize that there is a real way to build out such a map. However, the two keys to doing this that others have missed, is that this is not a line, but a branching tree of life philosophies that sometimes, in fact, frequently, has a mindset that is strictly worse than its progenitor. By this, what I mean is the mindsets don't get better as they go further along the path. Simone Collins: Would you describe mindsets in this model that you're going to go into deeper, of course, as straying from the path or straying from an ideal? Scenario when they get an Malcolm Collins: example, which I have written in the next sentence, for [00:03:00] example, we would argue that a strict...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the trajectory of woke culture and its potential impact on society. Drawing from a variety of data sources and cultural observations, they examine whether wokeness is a cyclical phenomenon or a new, enduring force that will shape the future. The hosts discuss the decline in certain "woke" terms in media, the persistence of cancel culture incidents, and the pushback against progressive narratives from major institutions. They also delve into the potential consequences of wokeness becoming entrenched within large bureaucratic organizations, even as it loses popularity among the general public. Malcolm and Simone consider various scenarios for the future, including the consolidation of power by the "woke elite" and the potential for societal unrest. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I am excited to be here with you today. A long time ago, a Sal's Park episode came out where they predicted How long woke culture was going to last. It was season 19, episode one. And it was called stunning and brave. And A farmer is predicting the course of woke culture going forwards. And he says, we have dealt with this before. And based on the last time we had a rise in wokeness, which the last time we had it, it was called the PC movement or the politically correct movement, who are born long after this movement. If you want to see. humor that was lambasting it as a movement, a very good movie to watch. And I think fairly entertaining is called PCU which is about the deaths of fraternity culture and it being replaced with various activist groups within [00:01:00] college campuses. It's a whole new ballgame on campus these days, and they call it PC. PC? Politically correct. And it's not just politics, it's everything. It's what you eat, it's what you wear, and it's what you say. And if you don't watch yourself, you can get in a buttload of trouble. For instance See these girls? Yeah. No you don't. Those are women. You call them girls, and they'll pop your fig. Save the whales! Kay's in the military now! Free Nelson Mandela! They freed him already. What? Those women? Those aren't women, Tom. Those are womenists. You know, I saw the new Madonna video last night. Un frickin believable. See the one in the middle? The blonde hair? She's looking at me, isn't she? Kind of. What, do you know her or something? Hey, Sam, isn't that the guy that you used to, uh Yeah. You went out with a [00:02:00] white male? I was a freshman. Fresh person. Please. Please. Go talk to her. What's the problem? Watch this. He's coming over here. Sister, throw him a walk! No, you don't have to do that. Wow. Hi. Uh, is Sam in there? In there? What's that supposed to mean? Yeah, cock man, oppressor. Uh, thank you. You know, this place is kind of insane. Wait till you meet the Causeheads. The what? What do we eat? Red meat! Why don't we eat it? To kill and murder! What do we eat? Red meat! Why don't we eat it? He's Tom, I'm your Causehead. They find a world threatening issue and stick with it. For about a week. What's up? What up? What happened to the ozone layer? It was last week. Now it's me. Malcolm Collins: But then that had a pushback to it and it died for a while and then woke as him came. And so Suss Park, I think made the educated prediction that these cycles last about six [00:03:00] years and that we had about 5. 9 left. However, that episode came out in. So we're about four years late on that prediction. This brings me to a question. Is Wokeness just another cycle, like a pendulum? That moves back in force over the course of history, or is wokeness something totally new that we'll only grow or will become more like a subset or religious community within our society. We've seen peak wokeness already. Okay and if we have seen peak wokeness, what does the future look like? And I will be going over a lot of statistics in this episode. A lot of them drawing from a blog by David...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins delve into the reasons behind their strong alliance with the technophilic, pro-industry faction of the pronatalist movement. They argue that embracing technological progress and maintaining industrial productivity are crucial for ensuring cultural autonomy and survival in an increasingly competitive world. The hosts explain how groups that disengage from technology and rely on the protection of the current "urban monoculture" are setting themselves up for failure once this detente collapses. They also discuss the importance of pluralism as a strategic value for minority groups, the need for long-term thinking in cultural preservation, and the potential for technophobic groups to adapt and embrace technology when faced with existential threats. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I love a lot of these technophobic groups. I think like Louise Perry, I was recently on her podcast and she's I think God doesn't want us engaging with technology If you take a low tech approach, you are dooming your culture as much as the people who are chemically castrating their children right now. There is a reason we cling to industry. That is what gives us our cultural autonomy and gives us an ability to survive in the world that we're heading into, which is going to be much more aggressive interculturally speaking than the world we're in today. If you do something as simple as just say, okay, all computers, all internet is fine, just no AI, right? You are at such an enormous, both military and economic disadvantage. The urban monoculture has been good for many of these groups in one ways, and that they have imposed a sort of detente on our society. You, if you're living in the developed world, generally do not have to worry about people of other cultural groups coming and sterilizing you or killing you. That will not be the case when the urban monoculture falls. It's [00:01:00] existential that you're pluralistic if you are not a group that has a chance at a play for the dominant culture in the world. The earth, for example, Suppose , you're a Catholic right now,. If they tried to take the, we will turn everywhere we live into a Catholic caliphate mindset and we will kick out the non Catholics. It's then, Any region where Catholics are not the dominant population, they are now a threat to all of the other populations. If you get one or two Catholic caliphates set up now all Catholics become a problem. This is why this is such a dangerous pathway. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. It's exciting to be talking to you today. Today we are going to be addressing why We have so ardently cited with the technophilic pro industry side of the pronatalist movement, because if you look at the wider landscape of the pronatalist movement, there are broadly two solutions. One is to say, if society. Isn't [00:02:00] working right now. Like with all the changes we've had. Let's go back to a time when it did work. The other solution is ours is to say let's take elements from a time that did work. Let's riff on that. But. Let's adapt them to be pro technology and pro industry. So we, as a species can keep developing in the direction we're developing today. And this is, I think to a lot of people, we wrote a piece in a Porya about why we chose to build a religion for our family. And one of the most common complaints was why. Do you need to engage with industry? And I think that there is the misinterpretation that for us, this is aesthetic that we are engaging because we just personally like industry or we're just generally pro science people are we believe in a future that's pro science. And that is not why. Literally, any other approach is pointless. [00:03:00] Everyone who doesn't take this path has no real freedom or real cultural security. So do you want to go further before I explain why, Simone, or? Simone Collins: Go into it. Malcolm Collins: The point being is...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins delve into the recent "bear or man" meme, which revealed a disturbing level of normalized bigotry against men in contemporary society. The hosts analyze the responses to the question "Would you rather be in the woods with a bear or a random man?" and compare them to hypothetical scenarios involving other marginalized groups to highlight the double standards at play. They explore the roots of this bigotry, its manifestation in various aspects of life, such as college admissions and fertility choices, and the potential consequences for society as a whole. The conversation also touches on the importance of recognizing and addressing misandry, even when it has become so pervasive that it is often overlooked or dismissed. [00:00:00] Question. What kind of bear is best? That's a ridiculous question. False. Black bear. Malcolm Collins: This is why it's so important that I elevate this and I'm also elevate your reaction to this Okay, because it's the reaction that many people will have that shows how dangerous this has gotten If you lived in a society like if in America today People were responding the same way to a question about Jews or black people. Would you be like, holy? You We have a big problem in this country and we need to do something about it immediately. Yeah. You would be raising every alarm bell you could raise. This is true. Fact. Bears eat beets. Oh. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica. Bears do not What is going on? Would you like to know more? Simone Collins: You Malcolm Collins: look good. Simone Collins: Are you ready to go? I'm ready to go. Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone! I am so excited to be chatting with you again today. There has been a meme, and whenever we try to do [00:01:00] timely episodes, we are always going to be late to the subject, because that's just not how we produce our videos. But the bear meme! First I'll ask you the question. Would you rather be in the woods with a bear or a random man? Simone Collins: Yeah. As long as it's a genuinely random man, obviously a man. Malcolm Collins: Okay. So a lot of women, and then I've seen this done on shows and stuff like that. It seems to be like 50 percent of women or more, maybe within these more progressive environments, like college campuses, you're getting like 70 to 80 percent of women. Okay. Are saying a bear and the standard have they not been like camping ever? Okay. So that's not the issue And what i'll say is the standard mind dead Take on this is are they either not aware of how dangerous bears are or the standard take on this is [00:02:00] Oh women these days, aren't they silly and hasn't feminism gone an extreme degree? And if we weren't based camp if we were some basic podcast That's the take we'd be having but I actually think that what can be Gleamed from this particular meme is much deeper and that's why I wanted to make sure to do an episode on it even if it's not appearing while this is still in the zeitgeist of the topic because I think that this was actually a great sort of natural experiment to see where our culture is heading and to predict where things will go downstream of here. Simone Collins: The, what this really indicates is what media has done to female audiences, which is that when they hear the word average or random guy, they assume some kind of aggressor or some kind of dangerous person. They're evoked set for random guy, rather than [00:03:00] Your brother, an uncle, a family member, a co worker. Malcolm Collins: No. They've further asked this. If it was your dad, would you say, no, they'll say. They would choose to bear over their dad. For example, look at this woman's caption. I choose the bear every time. If it's my boyfriend the bear, a friend the bear. My dad, the bear. Life and men have given me enough reason to choose the bear any time over any of them. I don't trust them. I don't think I ever will. Whether they're family or...

Manifold: The Taco Party: In this engaging conversation, Malcolm and Simone Collins sit down with Austin Chen, co-founder of the prediction market platform Manifold, to discuss the upcoming Manifest conference, the newly launched grant-making entity Manifund, and the unique community that has formed around these initiatives. Austin shares his insights on the diverse group of intellectuals, tech enthusiasts, and "degenerates" that make up the Manifold user base, and how the platform's open, decentralized approach sets it apart from other prediction markets. The hosts and guest also delve into the challenges of creating vibrant social events and communities, the importance of taking initiative, and the potential for Manifund to fill a gap in the current intellectual landscape. Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, everyone. We are very excited today to be joined by Austin Chen. He is one of the co founders of the prediction market Manifold, though now he is transitioning to work on Manifund, which is their sort of independent grant making entity, which is so excited. But what he's doing right now as he's transitioning is Prepping and ramping up for basically the conference of the year for us. We're really excited for it aside from natalism conference, which we're also very excited for, because per natalism, right? But last year was the first ever manifest conference. This is the flagship conference and the one only of manifold. And it was one of the best gatherings we've ever been to in terms of the California people in terms of execution. So you're planning for this we wanted to bring you on to talk about this, to talk about manifold, to talk about mana fund. And I just wanted to kick this off with Malcolm Collins: why? No, hold on. We got to kick it off with a good question. Okay. I think that Austin Chen: was a great question. The Malcolm Collins: good question is [00:01:00] around the betting pool that was put around when a a sex party would form at last year's event. Oh my God. Orgy. Yes. Yeah. Can you speak to that? What happened there? Austin Chen: So this is I think an outgrowth of Manifold's like very like libertarian philosophy. To take like very many steps back about what is special about Manifold, right? We're a prediction market platform where anyone can create any question. And this was basically from the very beginning, we want it to be a place where instead of the more standard platforms, Metacliss, PolyMarket, Kaoshi, which all have like prediction markets or forecasts. But all of their forecasts and prediction market was like gatekept. They're like approved by the moderators of the platform. We were like, we don't want this. We want more of a decentralized, like anyone can ask any question kind of system. So I think. Even from the very early days, we had a lot more of the like out there, sketchy, like raunchy degenerate, like crowd of people, but also a lot of people who are like, just very interested in prediction markets for their own sake, like prediction market nerds. When you put those two together, you get like all kinds of weird questions Will there be an orgy at [00:02:00] Manifest? And I think the New York Times famously covered this maybe in a little bit more Like depth than I would have hoped because you know me i'm like i'm so excited to be on the New York Times Except that my name is now associated with this orgy that happens But yeah, I don't know if there's like too much more about that than what they cover. It was like somebody who was one of our users was like, there's a bunch of like really spicy things happening. The like rationalist EA crowd is famous for the very loose, like norms on like sexuality, like polyamory, that kind of thing. Maybe there'll be an orgy. It's a thing that has probably ever happened before in like other rationalist parties or something like that. And there's just like a market for it. And every prediction market can also be viewed as like an incentive...

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] there's another thing about the pronatalist movement and that is what I'd call our Tucker and Dale force versus evil problem. It is about the way that the people from the urban monoculture dehumanize other people outside of the urban monoculture to such an extent that they can only see them as like freaks and murderers, no matter how nice they're trying to be to them And end up like murdering themselves in the process Oh, good, look, your friends are here! Hey! You're supposed to want to have children. And this is your ultimate goal in life. It is a very archaic idea and old idea and representation of a woman. So you you're getting people to sign a petition. pledge, basically saying that they will not have Children until the Canadian government takes serious action on climate change. Is that your blood? What, no. No, it's college kid blood. And how many people have signed on so far. 1, [00:01:00] 381 as of right now. I know what this is. This is a suicide pact. Oh my god, that makes so much sense. , we have got to hide all of the sharp objects! if only I was born with a vagina. To solve that problem. Amen, sister. Holy mother of God! Some kid, he just hucked himself right into the wood chipper! What? Head first, right into the wood chipper! It looked like it might have been one of the college kids.. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I am so excited to be talking with you again today back at our old location where we originally started filming, but now we have a hard connection. So you guys get solid video quality from here. But one thing I wanted to think about today Simone Collins: is Malcolm Collins: the nature of running the pronatalist or being leading figures in the pronatalist movement. And what that means. And why we look so Simone Collins: much younger and less stressed than Greta. Yeah. Malcolm Collins: Because there was an article that came out in Politico about the pronatalist conference [00:02:00] and they noted, they're like despite it being a fairly glum message, everyone seemed really upbeat and everyone was really optimistic. Simone Collins: Yeah, honestly, there was so much laughing. There was so much joking. There was so much lightheartedness, which is funny because demographic collapse is dire and scary. Yeah. It's, it is the, it is like climate change, a very scary shift that if not properly planned for is going to hurt the most vulnerable. Oh Malcolm Collins: yeah, millions of people are going to die slow and painful deaths because of this. . conservatively. Actually, , I'd say probably at least a billion people are going to die a slow and painful death over demographic collapse. And people are like, what do you mean? Come on. That's an exaggeration. And I'm like, okay. Or you could look at every state social security system, every state's Medicare system. How are they going to pay for that? How are they going to pay to keep their elderly alive? Okay, they're not they're gonna die. They're gonna starve. They're gonna freeze and they're not gonna get medical [00:03:00] treatments That's what's gonna happen as a result of all this but you might say then why is it such an upbeat movement? Why is it so low stress to operate? One and this is something I really noticed at the event itself is there is no status hierarchy signaling within the movement. While in our discord server, people do list how many kids they have. That really isn't a sign of status within the movement. Yeah. And Simone Collins: one reason, and I just want to emphasize this because this is so freaking important. It does not matter how many kids you have. What matters is how many grandchildren and great grandchildren you have. If you don't give your kids a great upbringing and they're not super stoked about passing on your culture and having their own kids, you failed. So I don't care if you have one kid or you have 10 kids, it matters what happens with those...

In this enlightening episode, Simone shares insights from her grandmother's memoir, "Memoirs of a French War Bride," which recounts her experiences living in occupied Paris during World War II. Malcolm and Simone discuss the hardships endured by civilians during this time, from food shortages and air raids to the constant fear of informants. They explore how these experiences shaped the post-war generation, instilling a sense of purpose and resilience that seems to be lacking in modern society. The conversation delves into the allure of teen dystopias, the dangers of dwelling on trauma, and the importance of opting into hardship to build the mental fortitude needed to overcome adversity. Join them as they reflect on the lessons we can learn from our ancestors and the need to cultivate a strong sense of purpose in the face of contemporary challenges. Simone Collins: [00:00:00] I think there may be this deep, subtle craving in the generation that really got into teen dystopias because there's this desire to live this life of deprivation and desperation, but more importantly, striving to survive, because given that opportunity. You do have motivation again. You do have a reason to believe and. I feel like there's this desire for that, When we think about everything that our ancestors went through and everything that they sacrificed to create a better world, because they did incrementally contribute to a better world, no matter how small it may have been, they did contribute. How can we complain about what we Malcolm Collins: have? like, if you're a cult and you're trying to break someone psychologically down, that's what you target for. First is their pride in who they are to make them think that they're nothing so that then you can brainwash them. And it's a naturally evolved mechanism. It's not like this was maliciously chosen by the left, but just the leftist traditions that did this ended up recruiting more people than the ones that didn't. And so now it's become the predominant strategy of the left within the [00:01:00] educational system within everything like that. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I am very excited for this one. We did an episode called Kids Used to Like Their Parents. And it actually did fairly well. I strongly suggest people watch it. It is on a, a diary or autobiography I found of one of my ancestors. And today we are going to be diving into the autobiography of one of Simone's ancestors and the things that it has taught us about our modern society. So Simone, take it away. Simone Collins: Yeah, I my, my, I've read it before, but not since I was a teen. My grandmother wrote a book, an autobiography, or at least a portion, she read about a portion of her life in a book called memoirs of a French war bride, which had a limited publication release. And Doesn't it's difficult to get, but it's actually quite interesting. Because what she does is recounts her experience as a late teens. So [00:02:00] we'll say 18 to early twenties living in occupied Paris during world war two. And it really. Has made me think differently about everything from teen dystopias to dating in a way that I quite like. So I thought it might be fun to talk about. But the first thing that really did strike me was just how, how bad it was for, for people, even in just occupied areas of a nation. You know, this wasn't, this wasn't people You know, just dealing with a new regime suddenly coming in and being kind of mean it was people fleeing Paris in cars running out of gas and then driving along on roads that were constantly being bombed by planes. So my grandmother. And her, her two parents and her aunt fled Paris in an attempt to not die. When the Nazis came [00:03:00] in, they didn't know what they were going to do. But nearly died quite a few times because Italians and Germans would bomb the roads, major roads leading out from Paris, even though this was civilian traffic which is insane. I...

In this thought-provoking episode, Malcolm and Simone dive deep into the world of incels, discussing a recent study that challenges the common perception of incels as predominantly right-wing. They explore the inherently leftist ideology of the incel movement, the dehumanization of incels by the left, and the role of female interests in shaping the left's stance on the issue. The conversation also touches on the historical context of how societies have dealt with incels, the potential dangers posed by the incel community, and the importance of addressing the root causes of the incel phenomenon. Join them as they offer insights on the complexities of the incel issue and its implications for modern society. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. It is great to be chatting with you today. I always love when statistics and new studies surprise me with information and help change my world perspective. And one such study came out recently on incels. And what it showed, . Many commenters have suggested a link between incels and the far right. However, using Pew Research's ideological consistency scale, this survey found that incels were slightly left of center on average. The exception was those who agreed with violence against individuals that cause incels harm or Often justified, these individuals were right leaning, though not extremely so. They held right wing opinions for 60 percent of the items in the ideological consistency scale, compared to 45 percent for the rest of the sample. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: And this is really interesting to me because, and this is one of those things where, you know, the left, they just take a group that's bad, and then they pretend that they are overwhelmingly right leaning. You know, as we always point out, until Obama was elected by [00:01:00] 538 polling, so mainstream Nate Silver polling White Democrats were less likely to vote for a black candidate as president than Republicans. So there is not a racist voting block on the right that doesn't exist on the left at about equal proportions. And it's the same with incels we're seeing here. Incels exist across parties. Generally, they're slightly on the left. But when they are more violent, which I guess would make sense if they're interested in getting guns and stuff like that and using them, they're going to come up as more on the right. But I Simone Collins: think that's the thing. It's when you see this in I can't use the word people ending themselves stats where women are far less likely to successfully end themselves. Whereas men successfully end themselves. I think a lot of it all comes down to Group efficacy. And I think that conservative groups have higher levels of efficacy and following through on things that are to them. Well, I think Malcolm Collins: it's more than that. I think if you think about what in cellism actually is, as you think about the ideology of the movement, it is an intrinsically far left [00:02:00] leaning ideology. So let's talk about this and let's talk about why they're not showing up as far left in the data. And just slightly left leaning. So specifically what an incel believes is that they are owed something by society that they are not getting from society and that the government should play a role in getting them that thing. If you look within incel circles, You know, what do they ask for? What they ask for is government mandated prostitution and government paid, like they ask for, and you, you see this within social communities, they want the government to find a way to deliver sex to them or to impose social norms Like forced marriages and stuff like that, which would give them access to sex, which are both incredibly left leaning ideas. The idea that you are owed something by your fellow man, and that those who have a poverty of that thing deserve the state to equitably distribute that thing, or have a right to use the state to equitably distribute that thing. I...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the concept of behavioral isolation and its potential impact on the future of human evolution. They examine the differences between two distinct groups - the technophilic, industrially productive "elite" and the more traditional, less technologically engaged "Bergens" - and discuss how their divergent lifestyles and values could lead to a form of speciation. The hosts also delve into the importance of technological advancement and pluralism in ensuring the survival and autonomy of various cultural groups, and emphasize the need for a pronatalist alliance that rejects supremacist ideologies. Throughout the conversation, they stress the significance of industrial output and technophilia in maintaining cultural independence and avoiding parasitic relationships with the state. Malcolm Collins: . [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. We had a reporting team over at our house from France that are doing a documentary. And they asked people, really nice people. Yeah. They asked a question that I thought was really interesting to us. Which was, are you concerned about some groups being like really high fertility? Are there groups that you want to be lower fertility? That scare you in some way. And this is a complicated question because the core answer is no, not really. But it's important to explain why the answer is no, because I think to a lot of people who are aware of we are genetic realists. Like I, I realize that there are things that are heritable within human populations and we do have A level of concern where I'm like, it's not really concerned. It's just planning for the future because it's just a truism and there's nothing that can be done about it. That one of the cultural strategies that is very good at maintaining high fertility rates in the world today are cultures that disengage from technology that engage in practices that make them economically less productive because generally in the developed [00:01:00] world, the less wealth you have, the more kids you have and that maintain their culture. intergenerationally with high fidelity, i. e. they don't allow their kids to be deconverted through xenophobia, through dehumanizing other groups. And so this cultural strategy has co evolved across many differentiated cultural groups. You'll see it in some Muslim groups. You'll see it in some Christian groups. You'll see it in some Jewish groups. You'll see it in some Buddhist groups. And invariably, these groups typically have much higher fertility rates than the individuals near them. And so people would think, oh then what you must want to do is a lower the fertility rate of these communities. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: And to me, that only really matters in so far as you live in a socialist system where groups are specifically building hacks that. Allow a group that is completely economically parasitic, high fertility. It can be damaging to other individuals and to state structures in a way that is [00:02:00] intrinsically unsustainable and will eventually lead to the collapse of the state. So people might hear this and be like, what do you mean? Okay. Imagine hypothetically there was a country that narrowed a group within it out. And this group was incredibly high fertility. But economically, totally unproductive. Technologically, totally unproductive and really did nothing to even contribute to the country's, military or defensibility, right? This group had Triple the fertility of their neighboring groups. Eventually, they would be the majority population in that country. Then the country intrinsically collapses because that country then cannot be, it cannot produce the additional goods and the additional wealth and the additional technology. Which is being siphoned by this high fertility community. And so either it ends this system or it eventually collapses. There is no other alternative. [00:03:00] The only other alternative I...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins delve into Andrew Tate's controversial proposal for solving the demographic crisis through polygamy. They analyze Tate's argument, which criticizes the Western monogamous model and promotes a return to a more traditional, patriarchal family structure. The hosts explore the cultural and genetic implications of polygyny, comparing Tate's Muslim-influenced perspective with the traditional American view of gender roles. They also examine the potential consequences of polygamy on both men and women, and discuss the importance of fostering independence and ambition in future generations. Ultimately, Malcolm and Simone argue that while Tate's approach may work for him personally, it is not a viable long-term solution for their own family or for society as a whole. [00:00:00] Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. This episode is going to be great because it's another Andrew Tate episode. So I need my sword again. Women won't respect him unless he is Physically threatening them with a sword. You got your sword. Your wife starts talking. You're like, shut up. She's got a sword. If every man on earth walked around with a sword, most of the issues of the world, would basically go away. We can fix this. It can all be fixed. You just need to carry a sword around your house. Malcolm Collins: And I need to do that too. That's how I keep my wife in line. Simone Collins: This, the sword. Malcolm Collins: , Andrew Tate has outlaid a plan for solving demographic collapse. Simone Collins: Are you serious? Did this actually happen? Malcolm Collins: I am serious. And it is as unhinged in a based way. Like I [00:01:00] like thinking outside the box, but it is very on brand. And I think it might be one of the most crazy things he said recently. That's Simone Collins: saying a lot. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Dear white men, you're fucked. You're being replaced because none of you have children. Even those of you b******g about the replacement online like little girls don't find the gumption to f**k. I see white men bragging about having five kids as if it's an achievement. LOL 5 LOLOL per year, right? Oh, all you white boys lost control of your women, and now they won't accept multiple wives anymore. Now they tell you they don't want any more kids. One's enough. They don't want to do their God given job anymore. No, they want Instagram likes [00:02:00] instead. So your genetic potential is stumped by the whims of some singular female. A female who takes nine whole months To grow a single baby. Other races have multiple ovens for bread. We're not cucked. Some b***h is screaming at you about loyalty. And you're sitting there saying, Yes, baby. Jerking off to porn when she's asleep or maybe cheating with a side b***h. Condom on. Hold on. I love this because this is the take that we've had that non reproductive sex is just masturbation. It is a kink. And I love that he has correlated jerking off to porn as being just as disgusting as sleeping, cheating on your wife with a condom on. Great, take care of yourself, okay. Oh no! I couldn't get another woman pregnant? My wife would kill me! Exclamation [00:03:00] mark, concerned emoji. Total f*****g losers. Soon your race will be nothing more than a few pages in a history book. A lesson on what happens when you f**k with a female psyche. They're obsessed with money and social media, as opposed to being one of many baby factories for a king. 30 children minimum for the Dons. White people, go talk to your quote unquote best friend wife about what you do this weekend. Maybe you can take a nice walk around IKEA. Enjoy extinction. Simone Collins: Okay. Wow, that's so great. Malcolm Collins: So first I want to point something out because I always tell people, Andrew Tate's idea about male and female roles is not the Western ideal and it is certainly not the Americana ideal. It is a Muslim ideal and they're like, no,...

Link to Discord: https://discord.gg/UzUgHpuDVG In this eye-opening episode, Malcolm dives deep into the potential dangers lurking within Discord servers, particularly for young and impressionable minds. He explains how the platform's unique features, such as private channels, illusion of consensus, and mod privileges, can easily facilitate grooming, gender dysphoria cults, and echo chambers that distort reality. Malcolm and Simone also discuss the importance of parental oversight in online communities, the power of status-seeking behaviors, and the need for caution when navigating these virtual spaces. Join them as they explore the dark side of Discord and offer insights on how to protect yourself and your loved ones. Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Well, what I'm curious about is your theory as to why Discord servers specifically are so good at this. I'm assuming it's the fact that they're much more limited in what you see. So then ultimately the criteria that people are competing on becomes very very focused. Is that you agree Malcolm Collins: then? So it's three things that lead to discord servers being uniquely good at this. Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today is an interesting topic because I had never really engaged with discord as a platform that much before. As old people, I'd gotten into it a little, I didn't really see the point. It didn't seem like a way that I could build up any sort of large audience or advance my career. So I just saw no point to it because I, you know, I'm sort of past the point in my life. Okay, Simone Collins: exactly. So why do you play video games? This is, this is my thing with video games. Is this going to make me money? Is this going to advance my career? Then why am I trying to figure out this task when I have so many other tasks? Now you understand [00:01:00] the Malcolm Collins: low stress task where I know, you know, the input needed to succeed in social situations just aren't that way. If I'm engaging in a community like discord, you know, it hasn't been optimized to give me the right amount of reward for my effort. So. But anyway, this is why I hadn't been engaging with the community. Well, recently I started to, because we created a discord for this channel based on some fan created a discord for this fan created discord, and then I've been promoting it and it's doing Incredibly well, like three days after launching at any point day or night, there's always like a conversation going on. So we've got about 50 active members and yeah, I've been very surprised. Simone Collins: Cool people too, from what I've glanced at. Malcolm Collins: So that's, Which has led me to actually engage with discord as a platform finally, which is saying a Simone Collins: lot because you don't find most people worth engaging. Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So I, I finally reached a point where. In, in sort of working with the platform and using the [00:02:00] platform and setting everything up where I feel like I understand one, why people use it into how it works as a platform, but in doing that, I also begin to realize how extremely dangerous discord is as a platform. Much more dangerous for young minds than something like tick tock, for example, which I think would really surprise people who are not obsessed with the way sort of social interactions work and human emotions work and everything like that. Right? Like that's my obsession to anyone who's read our books on like governance and everything like that. When I'm building up how governance work, I start by looking at how do humans interact, how do humans judge status, what sort of motivates our base human. Actions because through understanding humanity, I can understand better why different mechanisms for organizing us will lead to different, you know, large scale macro outcomes. Well, with discord, I was looking at it and what really got me [00:03:00] down this particular rabbit hole is I also really like, tea...

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the surprising ideological shift that has occurred within the Republican Party, transforming it into a haven for anti-establishment and anti-globalist sentiments once associated with hippie culture. The hosts analyze the factors that led to this change, including the Democratic Party's success in capturing major institutions, the ideological capture of corporations, and the rise of global bureaucracies. They also delve into the historical context of party realignments in the United States and the current state of the Republican base, highlighting the disconnect between influencer opinions and voter preferences on key issues like abortion. [00:00:00] Hello everyone. We are excited to be doing an episode today on hippies being. Republican now, . This is a really laid back place. Oh wow, you guys shouldn't be doing that. Don't you know what you're doing to the world? You're playing into the corporate game. See, the corporations are trying to turn you into little Eichmanns so that they can make money. Who are the corporations? The corporations run the entire world, and now they've fooled you into working for them. Are you serious? We never heard that. The government is using it's corporate ties to make you sell magazines so they can get rich. Those dirty liars! This is a really nice town you have here, that's why the corporations are trying to use you to take it down. Just hang with us for a bit. We'll fill you in on everything you haven't been told. It is wild, how we have met this exact archetype of person and had these exact conversations that couth park, used to use as the stereotype of what was annoying about hippies. At a number of Republican conferences this [00:01:00] year. Would you like to know more? . We have been to a number of Republican conferences this year. I'm going to break them down into really three major ones. ARC, which was of UK Republican elites. Yeah, yeah. Then there was the one in New Hampshire that was for Libertarians. And then there was the one that was for the new underground sort of dissonant right group which was re platform. . So what was really interesting is, yes, the Hoity Toity UK one didn't have this hippie class as much. It definitely had a portion of them, but the other two were just. Pure, like most of the lines I would see in this South Park, making fun of hippie attitudes we saw in this environment. So if I'm going to go over some, one is the globalist theory, I guess I'd call it, which is to say that there are a number of elites who run large companies [00:02:00] and ostensibly run world politics and the globe. And that you are playing into their hand. If you go get a normal nine to five bureaucratic job. And that this group has a secret agenda, which is just to use you for your labor. And then in the episode, you might've noticed, Oh, they've come to your town because you have this nice small town and they want to ruin it. So not only that, but that they disproportionately target. Nice, healthy communities which is definitely something you often see in these circles. And that a lot of people in the world are brainwashed and that if you just hang out with them and they're sociological and ideological bubble, that's how you get out of this brainwashing. And another thing that I think is really interesting is the mood and the vibe from the hippies, especially this era of hippies as depicted by South Park is much more similar to Republican conferences and stuff I've gone to than Democrat ones. With Democrat ones, it is very [00:03:00] gatekeepy when you enter a community. They want to make sure that you are the right kind of person with the right kind of ideas. Where at most of the Republican conferences, it's more of a, I'm eager to share with you this theory I have about how the world works. Or basically a conspiracy. Yeah. Very much like in the clip, like you gotta know don't you understand? Like...

In this captivating conversation, Malcolm and Simone Collins sit down with journalist Suzy Weiss to discuss her in-depth article on the Spoonie community, a group of chronic illness sufferers who have created a unique online subculture. Weiss shares her insights on how the Spoonie movement has evolved, the potential dangers of building an identity around illness, and the parallels between this phenomenon and other youth subcultures. The hosts and guest also delve into the broader implications of a society that increasingly valorizes victimhood and self-diagnosis, and the challenges of protecting vulnerable individuals from harmful online communities. Suzy Weiss: [00:00:00] A Spoonie is a member of a community of chronic illness sufferers. What some people have described as Munchausen by internet what happens when your identity becomes illness, because how are you ever incentivized to get well? Malcolm Collins: , if your community identification is defined by How ill you are then a status hierarchy is going to begin to form based on illness and people being people, they are going to have a motivation. To exaggerate their illness Would you like to know more? Malcolm Collins: I am so, so, so excited for our special guest here today. Um, easily our favorite writer. It's on the show today. This is Susie Weiss. We mentioned her in a number of episodes as just a writer who we really respect and does really, really interesting, deep based pieces that explore subcultures that are weird, which is like our [00:01:00] favorite thing. Today we are going to do the first piece of hers that we really got into where I was like, Oh this changes my thinking on a number of things About how like memetic viruses can form was in current online environments and how we're gonna raise Simone Collins: our teenage daughters Like it completely like it gave us a new model for female adolescence. This was it was a game changer Malcolm Collins: Oh, and where we should send people so this snoozy weiss. It's her twitter account. So go subscribe there. Although that You That never really converts as YouTube to Twitter, but what I can say is the Free Press her sister, Barry Weiss, runs it and she is a writer there and that's where you can find her stuff, so you should definitely go and subscribe to that. Suzy Weiss: Thank you guys so much for having me. I feel like when we discovered each other, it was like, There are others. I'm so happy. And then, of course, I included you on a story I did about tech messiahs who wanted to live forever, which I loved your contribution because you were like anti live forever, which I think is like a weird, whatever. We can get into that later, but I love that. Did you end up Malcolm Collins: talking [00:02:00] to that other girl we introduced Suzy Weiss: you to for that story? She, I never talked to her because she just I think yeah, she was intense. She Malcolm Collins: recently did a post where she bragged about how she convinced a woman to break up with her husband for another woman and get an abortion on her three months pregnant. term fetus. And this was like a huge win for her is talking someone into an abortion. That's pretty late stage, right? Or that early Simone Collins: is it's on the older side of fairly Malcolm Collins: horrifying. We were trying to get the perspective of an extremist antinatalist. Oh yeah. She Suzy Weiss: was, yeah. She's a major antinatal. Yeah. I guess that's a win. Take the ones where you can get them. So the F the full post she wrote went one of the grossest and most faileo centric types of misogyny to me is males who are fine with, or even encourage their wives or girlfriends having sex with other women. Porn sick bros was Heron fetishes. It's an ugly and very clear mask off on how they see women. They [00:03:00] feel so superior that a girl f*****g, their wife doesn't even count as sex. And that's cheating. Lesbians are just quote unquote girls having fun. That we do to...