CHINA-MENA

In this episode, We embark on a thought-provoking journey into the realm of China's involvement in conflict resolution within the region. Your host, Jonathan Fulton, is joined by the insightful voices of Helena Legarda and Dr. Sanam Vakil. Together, they dissect China's strategic approach to mediating conflicts and its consequential impact on the Middle East. Amidst a landscape seeking fresh perspectives in conflict resolution, a pertinent question emerges: Can China wield transformative influence? As we navigate the intricate terrain, we invite you to delve into the nuances, obstacles, and potential avenues presented by China's mediation role in this dynamic region. Brace yourselves for an enlightening discourse that promises to reshape your vantage point on global politics. TakeawaysQuotes "Change awaits. Yet, for now, our reality is navigating these inner boundaries and encapsulated processes shapes our path forward." – Helena Legarda "Bridging the ambition-action gap can reshape the region, inspiring meaningful dialogues and enduring resolutions." – Dr. Sanam Vakil Featured in the Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Helena Legarda Lead Analyst, Mercator Institute for China Studies(MERICS) In Berlin https://www.linkedin.com/in/hlegarda/ Dr. Sanam Vakil Director of Middle East and North Africa Programme, Chatham House https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanam-vakil-6b036b3a/ Chapters 00:12 - Introduction 01:59 - Global Ambitions: Mediation and Geopolitical Dynamics 08:17 - Economic Engagement: China's Rising Role 12:14 - Commitment Gaps: China's Mediation Challenges 14:23 - Tensions and Uncertainties: China's Role in Saudi Arabia and Iran 18:25 - Geopolitical Partnerships: China, Iran, and Saudi Arabia 22:51 - Limitations Unveiled: China's Struggles in Conflict Mediation 27:29 - Global Reach: China's Quest for Influence 31:52 - Unraveling Israel-Palestine Peace Plans 34:01 - Middle East's Reaction to China's Involvement 37:44 - GCC Tensions: China's Priorities and Missteps 40:24 - Iran's Concerns: Analyzing China's Rising Influence 41:22 - Outro Produced by Heartcast Media www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

Explore China's prominent initiatives, the Belt and Road Initiative and the Northern Initiative, as we uncover their true intentions—funding and support or genuine global development. Our esteemed guests shed light on the Chinese Communist Party's approach and practical implementation. We examine progress support, capacity building, and knowledge-sharing efforts, including global development centers and vocational training programs. Join us to understand China's aspirations in shaping global governance. Addressing challenges and skepticism, this episode offers valuable insights for those intrigued by international relations and global development. TakeawaysQuotes "Embracing multilateralism allows us to foster multiple partnerships and engagements, resulting in a balanced world with diverse sources of strength."-Tuvia Gering "Amidst the shortcomings of US governance, China endeavors to reform global governance, striving for democracy, multipolarity, fairness, and justice." - Michael Schuman "Beijing remains steadfast, doubling down on their initiatives with unwavering momentum."- Michael Schuman Featured in the Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Michael Schuman Nonresident Senior Fellow, Global China Hub, Atlantic Council https://twitter.com/michaelschuman Tuvia Gering Nonresident Fellow, Global China Hub, Atlantic Council; Researcher at the Diane & Guilford Glazer Foundation Israel-China Policy Center at the Institute for National Security Studies https://twitter.com/GeringTuvia Chapters 00:09 - Introduction 01:53 - China's Global Initiatives: Shaping a New World Order 06:00 - Beijing's Ambitions: Altering the US-Led World Order 10:40 - Advancing Global Initiatives Amidst US Resurgence 13:23 - Empowering Influence: China's Growing Global Impact 18:21 - China's Foreign Policy Shift: Strengthening Ties with the Global South 20:05 - Embracing China's Offer in Global Development 24:18 - Offering an Alternative Development Model 31:58 - China's Initiatives: Balancing Rhetoric and Reality 35:54 - Promoting Democracy and Facing Challenges 39:40 - Check and Counter Check: Global Influence Battle 40:24 - Superpower Rivalry: Assessing Positive and Negative Impacts 43:21 - Outro Produced by Heartcast Media www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

The US has been examining China's expanding involvement in the Middle East from various perspectives, both within and beyond the region. A major topic of discussion has been the strained relationship between China and the US, which is having a significant impact on the strategic landscape of the Middle East and North Africa. To provide us with insight into how the US government perceives China's media interactions in the region, We are joined by Dr. Julian Gewirtz and Chris Backemeyer.‌ They will discuss certain topics such as the priorities of the US in the region as well as the opportunities and challenges for the cooperation of China and US in the MENA region. Takeaways The Priorities of United States in the MENA region US perspective on China becoming a major player on geopolitics The diplomatic effort of China in the MENA region Opportunities and Challenges for cooperation of China and US in the MENA region The impact of China-Iran relationship on the interest of US in the region Quotes The US is in favor of any action taken by China or other countries to lower tensions, decrease conflicts or prevent destabilizing actions in the region. - Chris President Biden sees this decade as critical and has a strategy for China: invest, align, and compete. - Julian The fundamental U.S. goal of our foreign policy is a free and open and prosperous and secure world. - Julian Featured in the Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Julian Gewirtz Deputy China Coordinator, U.S. Department of State https://twitter.com/JulianGewirtz Chris Backemeyer Deputy Assistant Secretary for Assistance Coordination and Regional and Multilateral Affairs, US State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs https://twitter.com/chrisbackemeyer Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:29 US priorities on MENA region 06:55 China as a global actor 14:03 US’s view on the China’s growing presence in the region 20:26 China’s role in the diplomatic outreach in the region 22:22 Challenges for cooperation between China and US 28:40 Assessing the impact of the bilateral of China and Iran 31:30 Cooperation for China, US, and Middle East on climate change challenges 36:34 Final takeaways from our guests Produced by Heartcast Media www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

The United States and China are frequently brought up when discussing other regional powers in the Middle East, however, India also plays a role in the geopolitical dynamics within the region. With its long-standing linkages in economics, culture, and religion, India has long had a significant presence in the area. But as New Delhi has been interacting on political, diplomatic, and security fronts lately, this has taken a more strategic tone. In this episode, We are joined by Raja Mohan, a Senior Fellow with the Asia Society Policy Institute in Delhi. He will share with us his knowledge about India’s role in geopolitics in the Middle East as well as the perspective of New Delhi on the influence of the US-China tug-of-war within the region. He will also discuss India's relations with some states in the region and provide some insights about maritime security in the Indian Ocean and the growing influence of mixed cultures in the Gulf. Takeaways An overview of India’s interest in the Middle East and the shift toward the Gulf region New Delhi's Viewpoint on the India-US-China Triangle in the Middle East The India - China relationship in the recent decade The geopolitical play of Iran, India, Pakistan, and GCC in the Indian Ocean The growing partnership between India and the Gulf The perspective of the geopolitical forces in Asia Quotes We'd rather have the Americans sit on our hands for good than the Chinese. - Raja Mohan India faces challenges from China's growing presence in the Himalayas and the Indian Ocean, where China has established relationships with key island states. This requires India to work with Western partners. - Raja Mohan Featured in the Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Raja Mohan Senior Fellow with the Asia Society Policy Institute in Delhi Profile: https://asiasociety.org/policy-institute/c-raja-mohan Twitter: https://twitter.com/MohanCRaja Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:25 An overview of India’s interest in the Middle East 09:11 India’s shift into the Gulf region 13:12 The I2U2 Group and India’s approach to the Middle East 15:34 New Delhi’s perspective on the India-US-China Triangle in the Middle East 21:04 The India-China relationship today 26:00 The assessment of the China-Iran relationship 28:53 The maritime security in the Indian Ocean 31:32 Geopolitics of Iran, India, Pakistan, and the GCC 34:52 India and the Gulf’s growing partnership 38:01 Integrating different cultures and people in the Middle East 40:20 Balancing Geopolitical forces in Asia 42:27 Conclusion Produced by Heartcast Media www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

China's rise to power has led to discussions about whether the country will support or try to change the current international system. It is clear that China has both supported and been dissatisfied with certain aspects of the system. The country has demonstrated its preferences for a global order through initiatives such as the Belt and Road Initiative and the Global Development and Security Initiatives. To better understand the actions of China, we invited Nadege Rolland, is a Distinguished Fellow, China Studies, at the National Bureau of Asian Research (NBR), an American private think-tank based in Seattle and Washington, D.C. She will share an overview of the new 2 initiatives of China, the perspective of other countries towards China’s rise in the global economy, and if China will support the existing global order or not. Nadège Rolland is Senior Fellow, Political and Security Affairs, at the National Bureau of Asian Research (NBR), an American private think-tank based in Seattle and Washington, D.C. Her research focuses mainly on China’s foreign and defense policy, grand strategy, and the articulation of China’s vision for itself as a great power on the world stage. Takeaways China’s opposing view against the International Order The Global Development Initiative and Global Security Initiative of China The China’s narrative to the world as a rising power in the geopolitical stage China’s control and strategy in maintaining the power locally and globally Quotes China has been very worried and concerned about the Global order itself, because it really is antithetical to the principles under which the Chinese regime is being built. - Nadege This BRI is really a way to support a vision for a new world order that is China centric. - Nadege Where does the success of China come from exactly? and what constitutes this success? You will see that there's a lot to it, that it's more about the liberal elements that have allowed for China's success now. - Nadege Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Nadège Rolland Distinguished Fellow, China StudiesThe National Bureau of Asian Research Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nad%C3%A8ge-rolland-00778085/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/rollandnadege Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:16 Global Order 07:38 China’s view against the Order 15:07 Overview of GDI and GSI 24:50 China’s solution to world’s fundamental problems 39:46 China’s political values 48:08 The Resilience and Adaptability of One-Party Rule in China This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

China has made significant inroads into much of the global south, a trend that does not always receive adequate attention in the West. China's image in those countries has deteriorated in recent years, and there appears to be an assumption that this is universal. However, polling data from Africa and the Middle East show that China's reputation in the developing world is in much better shape. In today's podcast, we are joined by Dr. Lina Benabdallah. Dr. Lina Benabdallah is a Wake Forest University assistant professor of politics and international affairs. Her research interests include international relations theory, foreign policy, critical theories of power, past politics, and knowledge production and hegemony in South-South relations. Dr. Lina will provide an overview of China's influence in the Global South, as well as why China is viewed positively by African countries. She will also discuss how China gained positive impressions from Africans and how this affects the global stage. Takeaways Overview of China’s influence on the Global South The difference between Western perspectives and the Global South to China Africa’s positive impressions of China Position of Africans in the US-China conflict China’s influence in terms of relations and production Quotes Positive impressions and perceptions of China in Africa come from these tangible projects, goods, and infrastructure that people can use to make their life easier - Dr. Lina China is identifying itself as a member of the Global South family. This makes them more appealing to countries in the Global South, as well as a model for countries aspiring to be great nations. - Dr. Lina Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Dr. Lina Benabdallah Assistant Professor of Politics and International Affairs at Wake Forest University https://linabenabdallah.com https://twitter.com/lbenabdallah Her Book: Shaping the future of Power, Knowledge, Production, and Network Building in China-Africa relations https://www.amazon.com/Shaping-Future-Power-Network-Building-China-Africa/dp/0472074547 https://www.press.umich.edu/10194365/shaping_the_future_of_power The Article mentioned: China's Soft Power Advantage in Africa https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/africa/2021-12-23/chinas-soft-power-advantage-africa Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:17 An Overview of China’s outreach to the Global South 09:10 Western perspective of China versus the perspective of the Global South 16:11 Reasons why China has positive impressions in Africa 24:13 Africans in the US-China conflict 35:58 Developing the social capital of Africa 45:06 Measuring China’s influence in terms of relations and productions 51:57 Professional approach to learning China’s influence in the Global South This podcast was produced by Heart cast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

The fact that Middle Eastern countries' relationships with China are complicated has been a recurring theme throughout this show. Nothing is as simple as the headlines would have us believe. The Sino-Israeli relationship is particularly complex. Dense economic ties must be balanced against Israel's deeper and far more important ties with the US. While China does a lot of business with Israel, its international support for Palestine limits its political cooperation with the Jewish state. Assaf Orion, a senior researcher at the Institute of National Security Studies and the Director of the Diane and Guilford Glazer Israel China Policy Center in Tel-Aviv, Israel, joins us on today's podcast. He will speak with us about the dynamics of the China-Israel relationship and how it affects Israel as a state, as well as its neighbors and the Israel-Palestine relationship. Takeaways Overview of the Israel-China bilateral relationship Israel’s perspective of the Belt and Road Initiative of China The issue of Port of Haifa regarding the power struggle in the region China meddling in Israeli domestic affairs as well as the Israel-Palestine relationship Israel's perspective on China's MENA strategy Quotes China has started the Global Development Initiative which is a non-BRI, which tells us that BRI has been less successful - Assaf China is not a security guarantor in the Middle East yet China is an interesting business and infrastructure partner. - Assaf Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Assaf Orion Director, Diane & Guilford Glazer Israel-China Policy Center Israel’s Institute For National Security Studies (INSS) Linkedin: https://il.linkedin.com/in/assaf-orion-1b8274104 Website: https://www.inss.org.il/ Published Article mentioned in the show No, Israel Isn't Falling Into China's Orbit https://www.inss.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/No-Israel-Isnt-Falling-Into-Chinas-Orbit-Assaf-Orion-Mosaic-for-site.pdf Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:53 Overview of Israel-China bilateral relationship 09:02 China-Israel relationship, is it cooling down? 16:01 The BRI as a medium for Israel to connect with its neighboring countries 24:44 The port of Haifa linking to different Chinese-managed ports 31:03 China engaging in Israel’s domestic politics 36:58 Thoughts on China being a mediator between Israel and Palestine 42:53 Israel’s thoughts on China’s approach in the MENA region 50:20 Articles and resources This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

Different people have different perspectives on China's image in the MENA region. Some are positive while others are negative. However, we want to know the public's opinion on a larger scale while employing the proper scientific technique. In today's podcast, we are joined by Michael Robbins, Director and Co-Principal Investigator, of Arab Barometer, a nonpartisan research network that provides insight into the social, political, and economic attitudes and values of ordinary citizens across the Arab world. In the show, Michael explains the Arab Barometer and its purpose, as well as how they conduct surveys and collect data. He also discusses the region's perception of China based on their research. He also elaborated on the different perspectives of the elite versus the general public on China, as the elite is more favorable to China. These findings may be questioned because the majority of the public has no knowledge of or interest in geopolitics, and they may change as more information is gathered. Finally, he discusses the factors that can change or influence people's attitudes toward a country. Takeaways The Arab Barometer, its functions, research, and its goals China’s perception around the MENA region according to surveys The view of the Gulf region differs from other countries in the region The negative view of China by the people of Israel and Palestine The differences between public opinion versus the elite according to data The factors that influence foreigners' perceptions of a country Quotes We find that China remains relatively popular. we see that at least half or roughly half say that they have a positive view of China overall. - Michael there is a broad sense that the views of China are stronger among the elites according to data - Michael Probably in the next ten years, China will really come into view from the Middle East and there will probably be slightly more fixed views of China itself. - Michael Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Michael Robbins Director and Co-Principal Investigator, Arab Barometer Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mdhrobbins Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/mdhrobbins Website: https://www.arabbarometer.org Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:40 What is the Arab Barometer? 02:55 Which countries have the Urban Barometer been looking at? 04:41 How many people do you interview? 05:42 What are the perceptions of China around the region? 08:03 Are these perceptions of China might change? 12:34 A big shift of opinion in a short period of time 17:39 Different views of China in the Gulf region 19:30 Negative perceptions of China in Israel 23:48 Elite perceptions versus public perceptions of China 26:33 Explanation behind high and low perceptions of China from different countries 32:03 Palestinians don’t support China despite the aid from China 35:28 Factors that affect a country's positive or negative perceptions 41:21 Links and Resources on data and research from Arab Barometer This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

Many nations with interests in the Middle East are now reevaluating their strategies in light of China's rise as a key player in the region. Governments and businesses in the MENA region did not have to think much about China until recently. The last ten years have seen a significant change in that. And whether you're talking about commerce, investment, security, development, or diplomacy, the subject of what Beijing thinks is one that is constantly raised. Additionally, this is complicated by China's difficult interactions with numerous international events and economies. In today's podcast, we are joined by Camille Lons. Camille is a research associate at the International Institute for Strategic Studies or IISS. She will discuss how Europeans see China as China is now rising as a big player in geopolitics in the MENA region and the world. Takeaways How does the EU respond to the rising influence of China in the MENA region and the world? The areas where the EU and China can cooperate in the MENA region How does the EU position itself in the US-China rivalry in the geopolitics Why does China still have a strong influence in the region despite the warnings and issues given by the western countries Quotes The Europeans realized how dependent they were on China during COVID when it came to their supply chains, and this acted as a wakeup call that they were now vulnerable to rising authoritarian powers - Camille The EU and China can really cooperate when talking about clean energy infrastructures in the MENA region. - Camille The EU is trying to position itself as a third party in the US-China rivalry. It means that other nations have the opportunity to choose the EU as a partner over the US and China. - Camille One of the concerns of the EU about the China's presence in the MENA is that China is the provider of the finance development in the region and these might raise some concerns such as humanitarian issues, labor issues and below standard practices - Camille. Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Camille Lons Research Associate, IISS-Middle East Profile: https://www.iiss.org/people/middle-east/camille-lons Twitter: https://twitter.com/camillelons Links mentioned in the episode IISS China connect project Check it here -> https://chinaconnects.iiss.org Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:02 How does Europe see China both within Europe and globally 09:28 EU's perspective on China's rising presence in the MENA region 22:27 China is a big player in providing development aid in the MENA region 26:35 Nations that are challenging for the EU and have China's influence 32:14 Areas where the EU and China can cooperate 38:43 Why China is an attractive political partner in the MENA region 43:10 How the EU is using the US engagement in the region as their main narratives This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

In a speech on May 26, Secretary of State Antony Blinken outlined the Biden administration's policy toward China, which he characterized as the only nation with the will to alter the international order as well as an increasing amount of economic, diplomatic, military, and technological power to do so. According to him, the U.S. will concentrate on influencing Beijing's strategic environment to further its goals. In this period of strategic rivalry, use the three-word strategy of invest, align, and compete. The Indo-Pacific region has been designated as the U.S.'s top priority theater, while the Middle East and North Africa are also significant rival regions. In this podcast, Jonathan invited Ambassador Bilahari Kausikan, former ambassador and Singapore's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In today's episode, They discuss the influence of the US-China Competition in the Southeast Asia region. They also discuss the difference between the Gulf region and the SEA region in terms of the people, culture, religion, and perspective in this geopolitics competition. Moreover, Ambassador Bilahari states that the SEA region welcomes these extra-national powers within the region as they are helping the economic growth of the countries and also maintaining the balance of power in the region. Lastly, the Ambassador gives some advice to the Gulf countries regarding US-China geopolitics. Key Takeaways The influence of US-China Competition in the SEA region Comparison between the Gulf region and the SEA region The China-Iran relationship in geopolitics The role of Extra-nationals in the power balance in the SEA and East Asia Advice and recommendations to Gulf Countries from our guest Quotes The US-China competition is competition within a system, one system of which the US and China are both vital and irreplaceable parts in a global system - Bilahari We do welcome all external powers but don't follow its interests - Bilahari China has good relations with everybody in the MENA region but it is not a sustainable position over the long run, and the Chinese know it and are not quite sure what to do about it - Bilahari extra-regional powers are a very important pillar of their security. - Jonathan Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Bilahari Kausikan Chairman, Middle East Institute, National University of Singapore Former Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Singapore Profile: https://www.iiss.org/governance/the-advisory-council/bilahari-kausikan Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:22 Influence in Southeast Asia 09:30 The Gulf region vs Southeast Asia 19:47 China and Iran relations 25:36 Extranational powers in the role of security 28:58 North Korea distrusts China 30:21 Binary of great power combination 33:17 US is a key in the Economic power in SEA 39:52 Advice to the Gulf countries 42:54 Conclusion This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com/ This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

The increasing engagement of Iran towards China is nothing but a major issue in the Gulf region. Yet, despite this, GCC countries have been cooperating with China when talking about trade, investments, politics, and even culture. In this podcast, We are joined by Mohammed Al-Sudairi, a Senior Research Fellow and Head of the Asian Studies Program at KFCRIS. Mohammed and Jonathan talked about the political view of GCC towards China, the relationship of GCC countries with China in terms of people, culture, and businesses, and the competition narrative of the two countries, the USA and China in the region. Key Takeaways The political perspective of GCC countries toward China The early diplomatic ties of some GCC countries with China Oman and Kuwait's early relations with China suddenly become passive. Chinese investments moving to other countries due to bad politics The Sino-Arab citizens assimilate the culture and life of Arab people Competition narrative of US and China in GCC Impression of Gulf people towards China The Saudi citizens trying to live in the Mainland China Quotes Energy has been the main catalyst for this orientation between GCC and China - Mohammed There is solidified imagery about China as a potential alternative to the U.S.- Mohammed A lot of these individuals wrote about their experiences and depicted China as this great liberatory power. - Mohammed Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Mohammed Al-Sudairi Senior Research Fellow and Head of Asian Studies Program at KFCRIS. King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies Asian Studies Unit Head Profile: https://www.kfcris.com/en/researcher/10 Email: malsudairi@kfcris.com Phone: +852-6816-4293 Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:38 GCC's attitude towards China 06:04 Early diplomatic ties of GCC with China 08:06 Early relations between China and GCC suddenly become silent 10:45 Moving to other countries 14:55 Regional representation of the Gulf Peninsula 17:00 Sino-Arab citizens 20:44 US-GCC relations 22:55 Competition narrative of US and China in GCC countries 32:57 Impressions of Gulf people toward China 40:32 Saudi people moving to China This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. www.heartcastmedia.com This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

China has been expanding its Belt and Road Initiative around the world, but they are also working on a new version of BRI that utilizes the Digital Space. The initiative was dubbed the Digital Silk Road Initiative. The Digital Silk Road Initiative, or DSRI, is already in motion across the Middle East and North Africa, particularly in North Africa. Chinese big tech companies like Huawei have been assisting North African countries in digitizing their economies to compete with First World countries. These can also lead to wonderful opportunities for North Africans since DSRI promises regional economic growth. In this podcast, We are joined by Tin-Hinane El-Kadi, a political economy researcher, currently writing a Ph.D. thesis at the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE), looking at China's Digital Silk Road in North Africa. They talked about China's Digital Silk Road Initiative and Huawei's role in setting it into action. They also discussed the impression of the Chinese in North Africa, as China begins to establish a political role in the region. They also discussed Chinese ventures that focus on leveraging the digital domain. Data Centers, AI or Machine Learning, Cloud Computing, and 5G Technologies are all examples. Finally, they discussed the future connection between China and North Africa. Key Takeaways The Overview of the Digital Silk Road Initiative of China The Role of Huawei in the DSRI of China in North Africa Huawei perceived by Other Countries as not a Commercial Company Deep Chinese Presence in Countries in North Africa What the North Africans thought of China and Their Presence in the Region Significant Projects of Huawei and Other Chinese Tech Giants in the Region Thoughts about the Relationship between China-North Africa Quotes I believe there is a disconnect between China's existing economic presence in the area and people's perceptions of China. - Tin-Hinane Huawei was instrumental in the transition from 2G to 3G to 4G and, most likely, to 5G. It also plays a major role in the enterprise sector, interacting with businesses and setting up data centers, cloud computing, and cloud capacity. - Tin-Hinane I believe that governments around the region see the BRI as a wonderful chance to develop infrastructure, attract investment, and generate jobs for the region's millions of unemployed. - Tin-Hinane Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Tin Hinan El-Kadi Political Economy Researcher whose Work Focuses on China and the Middle East Profile: https://en.issra-dz.org/tin-hinane-el-kadi/ Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/tin-hinane-el-kadi-234329171 Twitter: https://twitter.com/tinhinanel Email/Contact: T.El-Kadi@lse.ac.uk Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:17 An Overview of the Digital Silk Road Initiative 05:32 How Does Huawei fit in the DSRI of China 08:37 Other Countries See Huawei as not a Commercial Company 15:43 Deep Chinese Presence in Countries of North Africa 18:44 What the North Africans thought of China 24:31 Significant Projects of Huawei in the North Africa Region 30:13 Some Tech Projects by Chinese Tech Giants in The Region 35:04 North Africans Appetite in Cooperation with China 38:58 Thoughts about the Relationship between China-North Africa 41:16 Conclusion This podcast is produced by Heartcast Media. https://www.heartcastmedia.com/ This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

China has been establishing itself as an economic player in the MENA region, not engaging in any complicated political issues. However, in recent years, China has been increasingly involved in political affairs. They have been engaging with the Arab states as well as the North African Countries. In this podcast, Jonathan invited Dr. Dawn Murphy, an Associate Professor of International Security Studies at the US Air War College. She specializes in Chinese foreign policy and domestic politics, US-China relations, and international relations. She wrote the book titled "China's Rise in the Global South, the Middle East. Africa. And Beijings' Alternative World Order". In the episode, They go through a quick summary of her novel and what it's about. They also discussed the forums with which China is affiliated, as well as the goals and objectives of those forums. They also talk about China's connections with non-Arab nations including Turkey, Iran, and Israel. They also covered China's two envoys, the Middle East envoys, and Africa's envoys. They talk about the overviews and the importance of these envoys in China's relations with the region. Finally, they address how the US should think about China's growing influence in the area and how they should interact with China as a competitor. Key Takeaways An overview of the Book "China's Rise in the Global South" Elaborating the 2 Cooperation Forums where China is associated with: China-Africa and the China Arab States China's Relationship with Non-Arab Countries such as Iran, Israel, and Turkey. Mutual Political Support and Interests between China and the Arab World The Upcoming Forums of China with Middle East Nations New Forms of the BRI: Digital Silk Road and Health Silk Road The Two China's Envoy: Middle East Issues envoy and the Africa Issue envoy How should the US interact with the Increasing Influence of China in the region Quotes China is not attempting to change the distribution of territory in the Middle East or Africa, as its power grows, it is increasingly competing with the US. - Dawn China's relationship with Israel is a special case. I see no evidence that China is striving to draw them into any sort of cooperative forum. Part of this stems from its long-standing support for Palestinians and desire to be recognized as a balanced player in the region. -Dawn China has a very strong relationship with Israel, as well as the Arab states, as well as Iran and, you know, other players in the region more broadly. And it very much portrays itself as a balanced actor in relation to these issues. - Dawn Special Terms Mentioned in the Episode CASCF - The China-Arab States Cooperation Forum FOCAC - Forum on China–Africa Cooperation PRC - People's Republic of China SCO - Shanghai Cooperation Organization Global South - refers broadly to the regions of Latin America, Asia, Africa, and Oceania. JCPOA - The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) BRI - Belt and Road Initiative Book Mentioned in the Episode China's Rise in the Global South, the Middle East. Africa. And Beijings' Alternative World Order Links: https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=33516 https://www.amazon.com/Chinas-Rise-Global-South-Alternative/dp/1503630099 https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781503630604/html?lang=en Featured in this Episode Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi Profile: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-fulton/ Linkedin: https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Dr. Dawn Murphy Associate Professor of International Security Studies, US Air War College Profile/Website: https://dawncmurphy.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-murphy-7a870589 Email/Contact: dcmurphy@gwmail.gwu.edu / dawn.murphy@au.af.edu Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:44 An...

China's objective in recent years has been to establish a firm foothold in the Gulf region, as the country is highly reliant on Middle Eastern oil to fuel its economic growth. The Belt and Road Initiative, their new approach, is paving the road for them to attain their goal. Similarly, China has a different strategy, relying on soft power to develop favorable influence throughout the region. China wishes to deepen economic links with the Middle East, and soft power relationships can result in significant bilateral exchanges for both parties. In this episode, We are joined by Shaojin Chai, a professor of international relations at the University of Sharjah. He spent a lot of time thinking and writing about China's cultural, educational, and religious outreach to the Middle East. His specialization is International Studies, Modern Chinese History and Political Science. 📌Key Takeaways 🌟China’s Soft Power in the Global Stage 🌟Developing China’s Soft Power in the Middle East 🌟Culture Familiarity between China and the Middle East 🌟The Outcome of People to People Connections of China in the Middle East 🌟Opportunities of Arabs on studying in Mainland China during Pre-COVID 🌟China’s Image to the people of Middle East 🌟China’s Soft Power against some Major Countries in Asia 🌟China’s development of Soft Power within and beyond borders 🌟Future Trends in development the China-Middle East relationship 📌Quote Takeaways “Arab students who studied in China and works in China or in a Chinese companies tends to have positive views for China during the eruption of the COVID pandemic” -Shaojin 📌Speakers of this Episode 🎙️Jonathan Fulton | Profile | Linkedin | Twitter nonresident senior fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi 🎙️Shaojin Chai | Profile | Linkedin Assistant Professor, Specialization: International Studies Modern Chinese History and Politics Political Science 📌Time Stamp ⏲️[00:00] Introduction ⏲️[02:21] China’s Soft Power in the Global Stage ⏲️[06:29] Developing China’s Soft Power in the Middle East ⏲️[13:01] Familiarity of Cultures between China and the Middle East ⏲️[17:33] The Outcome of People to People Bonds of China in the Middle East ⏲️[23:09] Opportunities of Arabs in studying in China during the Pre-COVID ⏲️[27:54] People to people connections during the Pandemic ⏲️[31:47] China’s positive image across Middle East ⏲️[36:21] China’s Soft Power versus other Asian Countries ⏲️[42:41] China’s Cultural products beyond borders ⏲️[44:57] Future Trends in driving the China-Middle East relationship This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

Chinese migration to the Middle East is one of the most important aspects of China's presence in the area. Increased migration in recent decades has aided in the development of China-Gulf ties, with the UAE being one of the nations with a significant Chinese population. In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Yuting Wang, a professor of sociology at the American University of Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates,. She's lived in the UAE for over a decade and has a fantastic book titled Chinese in Dubai, Money, Pride, and Soul Searching, which she released in 2020. She will speak on the influence of Chinese communities in the UAE, and the social relationships between Chinese and locals. 📌Key Takeaways 🌟The History and Presence of Chinese Community in Dubai 🌟The Reason why Chinese are Migrating to Middle East 🌟The increase Presence of Chinese Companies in Middle East 🌟The Challenges of Chinese migrants in the Region 🌟The New Opportunities surrounding within the Chinese Communities in the Region 🌟The Impact of Religious Relationship of Muslim Communities and Chinese Communities for China and the Gulf Countries 🌟Some Takeaways on the growing presence of Chinese in the UAE and Gulf Region 📌Quote Takeaways “The objective of Chinese migrants is to find markets with great potential, and the Gulf region offers excellent economic chances, which is why Chinese migrants flock to the Middle East.” -Yuting 📌Book Mentioned in the Episode ✔️Chinese in Dubai Money, Pride, and Soul-Searching Amazon | ResearchGate | politics and prose ✔️Familiar Strangers: A History of Muslims in Northwest China Jstor | Univ of Washington Press | ResearchWork Archives 📌Speakers of this Episode 🎙️Jonathan Fulton | Profile | Linkedin | Twitter nonresident senior fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi 🎙️Dr. Yuting Wang | Profile | Linkedin Professor of Sociology, Interim Head, Department of International Studies 📌Time Stamp ⏲️[00:00] intro ⏲️[02:27] The Presence of Chinese Community in Dubai ⏲️[10:53] The Reason of Chinese Migration ⏲️[15:23] Increasing numbers of Chinese Companies ⏲️[19:39] Challenges of Chinese People ⏲️[25:05] Opportunities within the community ⏲️[31:31] Muslim and Chinese relationship ⏲️[35:04] Perspective of Emiratis to Chinese Communities ⏲️[39:23] The Takeaways of Our Guest ⏲️[42:18] Conclusion This podcast was produced by Heartcast Media. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

China has been extending its footprint in the Middle East through the BRI (Belt and Road Initiative) during the last decade, affecting the region's economy, politics, and even security. Despite the fact that China imports oil from Saudi Arabia, Iran has gained China's attention due to its strategic relevance for the Belt and Road Initiative. In This podcast, We are joined by Professor Anoush Ehteshami, A professor in Durham University, who is an expert on the China-Iran Relationship, and share to us what is the importance of China-Iran partnership. 📌Key Takeaways 🌟What do the People of Iran says about China 🌟Iran-China Diplomatic Relationship Through the Decades 🌟China’s Goal on Iran, and on the Global Economy 📌Quote Takeaways “On one level, you may be concerned about China's developing financial ties with your Arab friends. Because Iran is broke, any monetization of Chinese-Iranian relations is unlikely.” - Anoush 📌Special Terms Mentioned in The Episode ✔️JCPOA - The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action ✔️SCO - Shanghai Cooperation Organization ✔️BRI - Belt and Road Initiative ✔️GCC Countries - Gulf Cooperation Council 📌Book Mentioned in the Episode ✔️Defending Iran, From Revolutionary Guards to Ballistic Missiles 📌Guests of this Episode 🎙️Jonathan Fulton | Profile | Linkedin | Twitter nonresident senior fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi 🎙️Anoush Ehteshami | Profile | Linkedin | Twitter Professor of international relations at Durham University. Director of the Sheikh Nasser Al Mohammed Al-Sabah program in international relations, regional politics and security. Director of the Institute for Middle Eastern & Islamic Studies (IMEIS) at Durham 📌Time Stamp ⏲️[00:00] Introduction ⏲️[03:20] Iran's perspective on China ⏲️[10:26] Politics and Diplomatic Relationship of Iran and China ⏲️[21:03] China’s Interest in Iran and the Middle East ⏲️[33:21] China’s goal in the global economy ⏲️[41:40] Conclusion This podcast is produced by Heartcast Media. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement

Welcome to the China-MENA Podcast. This show is produced by Atlantic Council thanks to generous support from the US State Department. The China-MENA Podcast is a monthly program that goes beyond the headlines to provide a deeper look at engagement between China and countries in the Middle East – North Africa and give our listeners a better understanding of an important emerging geopolitical shift. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5446998/advertisement