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Changed My Mind is The Depolarization Project’s podcast, hosted by Alex Chesterfield, Laura Osborne and Ali Goldsworthy. We ask guests to tell us a substantive issue they have changed their mind on, why and what they have learned from it. We work with global media outlet Open Democracy to bring this podcast to you.


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Changed My Mind is The Depolarization Project’s podcast, hosted by Alex Chesterfield, Laura Osborne and Ali Goldsworthy. We ask guests to tell us a substantive issue they have changed their mind on, why and what they have learned from it. We work with global media outlet Open Democracy to bring this podcast to you.




Accepting American democracy was in mortal danger, with Cass Sunstein

World-renowned behavioural economist Cass Sunstein on why dismissing his friends' fears about democracy being at risk in the US was wrong.


Changing your mind on the Iraq War with Ed Owen

Former advisor to the Foreign Secretary at the time of the Iraq War, Ed Owen, on why he now feels differently about the decision to go to war in Iraq.


Realising America's Criminal Justice System Was Broken with Jordan Blashek and Chris Haugh

The Authors of Union: a Search for Common Ground on how an American road trip woke them up to the failings in the criminal justice system and the limitations of beloved media outlets.


Danny Finkelstein on Changing Political Allies

Danny Finkelstein, associate editor of the Times and Conservative peer, talks to us about why being able to clearly see both sides of an argument is important but can also feel debilitating in a world that craves certainty. He shares his lessons from switching parties and why it is critical to reduce the cost of people changing their minds.


Peter Geoghegan on Unaccountability and Returning Home

Peter Geoghegan, author of Democracy for Sale and investigative journalist, left Ireland as a young man desperate to get away but has returned in lockdown to find a country much changed. He tells us why, from his childhood bedroom, and explains the need to dig deeper into unaccountable money in politics, in the UK as well as the US.


Getting Less Liberal About Prostitution with Helen Lewis

Helen Lewis, a journalist at the Atlantic and author of Difficult Women: the History of Feminism in 11 Fights, talks about how she came to question her previous liberal beliefs on prostitution, a former Labour MP who cried after receiving an apology for being deselected when she came out in the 70s, the limits of unconscious bias training, and more.


Deciding That People Should Have a Platform with Kajal Odedra

The Director of in the UK Kajal Odedra talks about realising no platforming tended to backfire, her changing relationship with her own identity and how's supporters come from a much broader base than most people imagine.


Conflicting Identities with Jamie Susskind

Author of Future Politics, Jamie Susskind, left the Labour Party after 10 years of activism due to antisemitism. He tells us what happened, why he is on the cusp of going back and what politicians need to think about now to prepare for the tech of the future.


On Realising Mainstreaming Is Not Enough with Derek Bardowell

Author Derek Bardowell used to think mainstreaming would be enough to tackle racism. Over decades over work he's realise that on it's own, it is far from enough.


Becoming Friends With Your Arch Enemy with Leah Garces

When Leah Garces sat opposite Craig Watts in his living room it was an unlikely occurrence. Leah, a vegan and CEO at Mercy for Animals, did not expect to have much in common with the factory farmer she had spent years campaigning against. Yet, she and Watts were to become unexpected allies in the fight to improve animal welfare. She tells us how that happened, why she changed her mind about people and what her Trump supporting family taught her.


Leaving Al-Qaeda with Aimen Dean and Thomas Small

Aimen Dean was a bombmaker for Al-Qaeda before leaving to become an MI6 informant. He and the Middle East expert Thomas Small join us to explore why and what we can learn from a 14th century Muslim scholar.


Joseph Marks on positive discrimination

Social psychologist, rising star at UCL & MIT, and author of new book Messengers on why he’s changed his mind (several times) on positive discrimination. Plus, learn why the messenger is now the message and what you can do (and should NOT do) to be heard.


Sonia Sodha on disagreeing with her younger self about student funding

Chief Leader writer at The Observer and The Guardian, Sonia Sodha was very active in the campaign to make higher education free. Fifteen years on, she has changed her mind. We talk about why, what her 20 year old self would make of it and the role of the media in polarization.


Flattery and leadership with Jeff Pfeffer

Jeff Pfeffer once wrote that leaders often made little difference to a company, now he thinks they can. We talk about why telling people to be authentic is terrible advice and how flattery helps change people's minds with one of the world's leading management thinkers.


Admitting you got it all wrong about online education with Prof Sarah Soule

Stanford Professor and expert in protest movements on how she performed a total u-turn on the value of online learning. From thinking it was never going to work to leading courses and persuading colleagues to join in. With such a strong background in protest we also talked to her about when they work, why and how in 2019 our political polarization problems are playing out so very differently.


Hanging like a bat with Carwyn Jones

Carwyn Jones, the former First Minister of Wales talks leadership, why he switched his position to be in favour of another referendum on the UK's membership of the EU and what chastisement of children is reasonable.


You don't always need to be nice with Prof Maggie Neale

World renowned negotiations expert Stanford's Professor Maggie Neale talks about becoming comfortable with conflict, learning that you don't always need to be nice and the importance of owning a dog.


Nandos, teaching and the limits of capitalism with Dr Marcia Chatelain

Georgetown University's Dr Marcia Chatelain takes it to a meta level with us. We talk about her work looking at the relationship between race and fast food in the States, why people don't own up to mistakes and how she has changed her mind on capitalism.


Changing your behaviour is easier than changing your mind with Steve Martin

When are people more likely to change their minds? Steve Martin, one of the world's leading experts on behaviour change and persuasion talks about the limitations of information in influencing people.


Getting women into politics

Former UK Government Minister Jo Swinson MP talks about gradually changing her mind on how to get more women into politics, the experiences and gentle persuasion that achieved it, and the times former colleagues in Government surprised her.