Managing Violence Podcast with Joe Saunders

Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author and an investigative journalist for the Atlantic, Politico, the Washington Post and other outlets. Today she joins me to talk about her book, HIGH CONFLICT: Why We Get Trapped & How We Get Out This is a fascinating look at the polarising conflicts of our times - whether it's Left vs Right, race vs race, state vs state, gang vs gang, activism vs establishment or any other conflict rooted in polarity, high conflict destroys relationships, communities and lives. If, like me, you're interested in escaping the "tar pits" of high conflict, you need to check out this interview and the book to go with it. As a side note, this will be the last regular interview episode of the Managing Violence Podcast. It's been a great run. I will be closing out with one more reflective episode, but this is the final interview and I'm happy to end it on this note. Enjoy!

Melissa Muir is a seasoned HR professional who has found her way into becoming a highly requested speaker on the topics of workplace violence, security/HR interface, identifying behavioural red flags, safe and respectful terminations and more. She is an absolute joy as a human being and combines an infectious optimism with hard-won knowledge and grounding humility. There is a lot to take away from this episode and I hope you enjoy it. *** Make sure you check out our full catalogue of episodes at www.violencepod.com If you'd like to support the show, you'll find lots of opportunities at www.violencepod.com/support And if you'd like to talk about myself or my team helping out your organisation, business or club, go to www.violencepod.com/training

The Book of Five Rings is a classic text on strategy and combat written by legendary samurai, Miyamoto Musashi nearly 400 years ago. Today I am joined by Mark Mireles to talk about how the wisdom contained in this book is still relevant for self protection today. Mark is a 2 time recipient of the LAPD Medal of Valor, a threat assessment and personal protection practitioner, and a high ranking martial artist in several styles. He combines incredible personal experience in frontline self-protection with classical training and a deep appreciation for written works on life, death and combat. Please enjoy this conversation, Ancient Wisdom for Modern Self-Protection with Mark Mireles. *** Make sure you check out our full catalogue of episodes at www.violencepod.com If you'd like to support the show, you'll find lots of opportunities at www.violencepod.com/support And if you'd like to talk about myself or my team helping out your organisation, business or club, go to www.violencepod.com/training

Happy holidays! I am joined once again by Mary Stevens, an accomplished martial arts instructor and also lead instructor at Violence Prevention & Management UK. Mary is a lifelong learner and incredible teacher, so I took the opportunity to pick her brain about her last 12 months of study which includes seminars with the likes of Richard Dimitri, Pamela Armitage, Dr Tammy Yard McCracken, Rory Miller and me! To compare notes on how each of these world-leading instructors taught their "soft skills" material made for a great conversation. We also touch on Mary's important work with FairFight, bringing self-protection skills to disadvantaged girls in India. *** Make sure you check out our full catalogue of episodes at www.violencepod.com If you'd like to support the show, you'll find lots of opportunities at www.violencepod.com/support And if you'd like to talk about myself or my team helping out your organisation, business or club, go to www.violencepod.com/training

In this episode I am joined by 40-year law enforcement officer and 26-year Secret Service veteran, Mike Roche. Mike is the author of Mass Killers: How you can identify workplace, school, or public killers before they strike In this interview we talk about the psychology of mass murderers and what Mike has learned from 20 years of studying offenders and proven prevention methodologies. **** American fans! Joe is speaking at the Global Security Exchange (GSX) Conference in Atlanta, GA on September 12 and will be in Atlanta all week. If you're in the area, make sure you say hello. You can find details about Joe's conference presentation here: A Holistic Approach to Managing Customer-Initiated Violence - Global Security Exchange 2022 (mapyourshow.com) For bonus content from this episode and many others, check out www.patreon.com/managingviolence

Dr. Mary Beth Janke has over 30 years of psychology, security, and investigative experience and is one of the most respected females in the Executive Protection industry. Her career has been extremely impressive moving through time with the Secret Service as a Special Agent, military forces, and even Private Military Contract work. She’s the only woman ever to protect a foreign president outside of the US. She has operated in theaters such as Peru and Haiti. She has also operated as a VIP Protection Instructor for the US State Department-sponsored Anti-terrorism Assistance Program, and under the auspices of the US Embassy as the US Security Advisor to the Minister of Defense and the Vice President of Colombia.She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and a Masters in Forensic Psychology. She has spent the past 20 years practicing psychology as a therapist and serving as an Adjunct Professor in the Psychology Department at the George Washington University where she teaches Abnormal Psychology and the Psychology of Crime and Violence. She also regularly facilitates mental health training, stalking awareness discussions, and is as a mentor for women world-wide. She has written a captivating memoir about her story called 'The Protector: A Woman’s Journey from the Secret Service to Protecting VIPs in the World’s Most Dangerous Places'.

Dr Lorraine Sheridan is a forensic psychologist and one of the world's leading experts in stalking. She has written 5 books and over 80 journal articles on stalking, domestic violence and various aspects of criminal justice. She is also formerly the President of the Asia-Pacific Association of Threat Assessment Professionals, and current works as a consulting expert in a variety of threat assessment and risk management roles. In this episode we take a dive into the mind of stalkers and how we can prevent and manage this risk, both in our personal lives and in the lives of those we love. This episode, as always, is brought to you by R2S Violence Prevention. Learn more at risk2solution.com For bonus content from this episode and many others, check out www.patreon.com/managingviolence More information on my upcoming UK tour: www.violencepod.com/uktour Book tickets: www.selfdefenceglobal.online

"Making the decision to have a child...is to decide forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body." Keeping our kids safe (and ourselves sane) is one of our most important duties as parents...but the best advice for doing that is scattered across dozens of disciplines. Karate teachers, police, sociologists, and alarm companies all have their own opinions, and some of them even contradict each other. Jason Brick is the host of the Safest Family on the Block where he interviews leading experts in everything from special warfare, to first aid, to child psychology, to consumer safety, bringing you the information you need to run a safe, secure, and happy household. For more information about Jason's upcoming book, or to participate in the Kickstarter, go here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brickcommajason/there-i-waswhen-nothing-happened For bonus content from this episode and many others, check out www.patreon.com/managingviolence More information on my upcoming UK tour: www.violencepod.com/uktour Book tickets: www.selfdefenceglobal.online

Kerry “Kato” Murakami, the founder of Rectitude Training, LLC, is devoted to training law enforcement and the civilian defender. Kerry is a retired law enforcement officer from the State of Illinois and has spent all twenty eight years in the patrol division. He initially became a defensive tactics instructor and field training officer in 1995, a firearms instructor in 2003 and finally a scenario based instructor in 2014. As a martial artist, Kerry received his black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu from Professor Mark Vives of New Breed Training Center in 2019. As co-lead of his department’s scenario based training program and lead instructor of his department’s combatives club Kerry is able to use his skills to create, update, and implement training programs on the range and in the mat room. He has also consulted with outside law enforcement agencies on creating and updating training programs, including their agency's combatives/jiu-jitsu clubs. In early 2021 Rectitude Training, LLC became a preferred provider to Intergovernmental Risk Management Agency (IRMA), one of the largest risk pools in the Chicagoland area. The goal is to increase frequency and consistency of Defensive Tactics/Combatives training while reducing Officer’s and suspect's injuries. More information on my upcoming UK tour: Managing Violence 2022 UK Tour - Managing Violence Podcast Book tickets: Self Defence Global Join the conversation in the Managing Violence Tribe: Managing Violence Tribe | Facebook Support the show on Patreon: www.patreon.com/managingviolence

I am using this milestone episode of the Managing Violence Podcast to plant a flag. It is time we tear down this makeshift industry we have continued to patch, fix and repair over the past 70 or so years. Like a loved family home that has been renovated and added to in ad hoc fashion as it has been outgrown, sometimes the best option is to take the lessons and rebuild for the future. It's time for us to create something that is truly fit for purpose. In this podcast I talk about what I think is the future of our industry. A move towards violence prevention and management, the incorporation of best-practice risk management principles and formalising professional education for instructors. Whether you agree or disagree, please feel free to share your comments wherever you find this episode or email me at joe@joesaunders.com.au More information on my upcoming UK tour: Managing Violence 2022 UK Tour - Managing Violence Podcast Book tickets: Self Defence Global Join the conversation in the Managing Violence Tribe: Managing Violence Tribe | Facebook Support the show on Patreon: www.patreon.com/managingviolence

In this interview I have a chance to share my take on modern conflict communication, verbal de-escalation, the importance of empathy, and why you should be training speaking as much (or more than) fighting. Republished with permission from Finding the Truth. Available on all podcast platforms or here: https://anchor.fm/benjamin--myers?fbc... For more information of my verbal de-escalation and communication for martial arts training, visit here: Seminars - Managing Violence Podcast UK Tour information: Managing Violence 2022 UK Tour - Managing Violence Podcast For corporate enquiries, or to explore our Presilient Communication program, visit here: Occupational Violence & Aggression - Risk 2 Solution Group

Pamela Armitage is the Chief Impact Officer at Study of Violence and an instructor with SAFE International. She has pioneered the trauma-informed self-defence movement and is a global thought leader in the evolution of violence management education. This is not a comfortable or fun conversation, nor should it be. Trigger warnings for discussions around abuse, bullying, manipulation, gaslighting and related topics. Learn more about Pam and take enjoy free training at www.studyofviolence.com Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON YOUR PLATFORM OF CHOICE: https://podfollow.com/managingviolence/ Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a review so you never miss future content. Want to check out the bonus content for this episode and others? www.patreon.com/managingviolence Check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJgyuUe-wxu-ii88QEc2Zg

Bill DuChene is the Vice President of Training & Tactics at Gavin DeBecker & Associates As the Director of Training, Bill DuChene is responsible for the development of all in house training programs to include the Essential Protector Skills Academy for all new hires, Special Field Services Academy for dedicated field agents, and the Academy for Protectors which teaches outside organizations like corporate security, Law Enforcement, and government entities the core skills of being a protector. Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON YOUR PLATFORM OF CHOICE: https://podfollow.com/managingviolence/ Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a review so you never miss future content. Want to check out the bonus content for this episode and others? www.patreon.com/managingviolence Check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJgyuUe-wxu-ii88QEc2Zg

Rick Shaw is the founder of Awareity, founder of First Preventers, leading Prevention Coach, author of The First Preventers Playbook, and trusted advisor to organization and community leaders. For 20+ years Rick has been researching failed preventions, post-incident reports, and lessons learned and was the first to identify the profile of failed preventions. Rick utilized the research and lessons learned to identify the 6 Stages of Prevention and create the first of its kind First Preventers Framework, strategies, and tools to eliminate common gaps, silos, and disconnects and radically simplify prevention and safety in organizations and communities. Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON YOUR PLATFORM OF CHOICE: https://podfollow.com/managingviolence/ Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a review so you never miss future content. Want to check out the bonus content for this episode and others? www.patreon.com/managingviolence Check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJgyuUe-wxu-ii88QEc2Zg

Dr. Cawood is President of Factor One which is a California based corporation specializing in threat assessment and management, violence risk assessment, behavioral analysis, security consulting, and investigations. Dr. Cawood has worked in the field for more than 30 years. He has successfully assessed and managed over 5000 violence related cases for federal and state government agencies, universities and colleges, public and private corporations, and other business entities throughout North America and the world. Dr. Cawood is currently serving on the Editorial Board of the Journal of Threat Assessment and Management (American Psychological Association), as the Vice-Chairman of the Certification Committee which is responsible for the ATAP Certified Threat Manager (CTM) program, and he is also serving on the Professional Certification Board (PCB) of ASIS International. He is the former Association President of the Association of Threat Assessment Professionals (ATAP). Dr. Cawood is a graduate of U.C. Berkeley, holds a Masters degree in Forensic Psychology from Argosy University, and a Ph.D. in Psychology from Northcentral University. He has served on the faculties of Golden Gate University, in their Security Management degree program and the University of California, Santa Cruz extension, teaching Threat Management. He co-authored the book, Violence Assessment and Intervention: The Practitioner's Handbook, CRC Press. His most recent book, Threat and Violence Interventions: The Effective Application of Influence released by Academic Press in November of 2020. Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON YOUR PLATFORM OF CHOICE: https://podfollow.com/managingviolence/ Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a review so you never miss future content. Want to check out the bonus content for this episode and others? www.patreon.com/managingviolence Check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJgyuUe-wxu-ii88QEc2Zg

SPENCER COURSEN is a nationally recognized threat management expert and author of THE SAFETY TRAP. He is a combat veteran, former supervisory special agent, and private security professional who’s unique global experience has supported an exceptional record of success in the assessment, management, and resolution of threats, conflict resolution, employee terminations, physical security assessments, expert witness testimony, policy authorship, protective intelligence, and vulnerability reduction. Mr Coursen is the founder of COURSEN SECURITY GROUP (CSG) — a premier threat management firm based in Austin, Texas. CSG provides expert security assessment, consultation, and protective strategy to help organizations, public figures, and private families succeed in staying safe. Connect with SPENCER COURSENLinkTree: https://linktr.ee/spencercoursen Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON YOUR PLATFORM OF CHOICE: https://podfollow.com/managingviolence/ Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a review so you never miss future content. Want to check out the bonus content for this episode and others? www.patreon.com/managingviolence Check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJgyuUe-wxu-ii88QEc2Zg

In this special bonus episode, listen in on a conversation I had with former guests Randy King and Rory Miller as they travel around the United States on their epic RandRory Seminar Tour. Find out more about the tour here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/326802868398295

Mark Hatmaker is a legend of the self-protection and martial arts world, and it was a great pleasure to listen to him speak about western martial arts, boxing, wrestling and rough'n'tumble. Support Mark's websites here: https://www.extremeselfprotection.com/ https://indigenousability.blogspot.com/ This is the last episode of the Managing Violence Podcast for a little while as I focus energies on teaching, training and designing better systems to help my clients manage the risk of violence in their workplaces. If you've enjoyed the show thus far, please consider leaving a review on your platform of choice and supporting the show at www.patreon.com/managingviolence or buying some merch at www.violencepod.com/merch Stay safe and be good to each other! We'll be back soon!

Dr Tammy Yard-McCracken has 25+ years as a therapist working with survivors of violence, anxiety and PTSD. Wanting to do more to prevent trauma and build opportunity for resilience, Tammy became an instructor in Krav Maga and started a journey into self-protection training. Today she is the found of #500Rising - an initiative seeking to equip and empower women to lead other women in self-protection and violence management. You can find out more about Tammy at www.500rising.com LISTENER GIVEAWAY! We are also doing a giveaway for signed copies of Joe's book, Neon Jungle: A Bouncer's True Tales of Lessons, Laughs & Lacerations. There are two ways to enter the contest: Option A: Leave a review on your podcast platform of choice, screen shot that review and post it in the Managing Violence Tribe Facebook group with the hashtag #mvpreview Option B: If your podcast platform doesn’t allow you to post reviews, leave a review on our Managing Violence Facebook page, screen shot the review and post it with the #mvpreview At the end of July, we’ll randomly select two names from those who left reviews and reach out to you to send you a free signed copy of the book. Support our Sponsors: FujiSports (Americas): www.fujisports.com FujiSports (Australia): https://www.fujisports.com.au/?ref=mvp Enter discount code MVP10 for 10% off your order (excludes mats, cages and custom gear) Support the Show: Bonus content: www.patreon.com/managingviolence Merch: www.violencepod.com/merch BuyMeACoffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/joemvp

In this episode I'm joined by good friend, martial artist, business consultant and academy owner, Ron Amram. We chat about the common pitfalls of marketing and reaching students, how easy it can be to compromise our ethics, and how the strategies that are used by predators and conmen are the same strategies we use to get their victims into training! Check it out and leave a review if you like the conversation. *** Support our Partners: FujiSports (Americas): www.fujisports.com FujiSports (Australia): https://www.fujisports.com.au/?ref=mvp Enter discount code MVP10 for 10% off your order (excludes mats, cages and custom gear) *** Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON YOUR PLATFORM OF CHOICE: https://podfollow.com/managingviolence/ Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a review so you never miss future content. Want to check out the bonus content for this episode and others? www.patreon.com/managingviolence Check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvJgyuUe-wxu-ii88QEc2Zg