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Animals are increasingly at the forefront of research questions – Not as shadows to human stories, or as beings we want to understand biologically, or for purely our benefit – but as beings who have histories, stories, and geographies of their own. Each season is set around themes with each episode unpacking a particular animal turn concept and its significance therein. Join Claudia Hirtenfelder as she delves into some of the most important ideas emerging out of this recent turn in scholarship, thinking, and being.

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Animals are increasingly at the forefront of research questions – Not as shadows to human stories, or as beings we want to understand biologically, or for purely our benefit – but as beings who have histories, stories, and geographies of their own. Each season is set around themes with each episode unpacking a particular animal turn concept and its significance therein. Join Claudia Hirtenfelder as she delves into some of the most important ideas emerging out of this recent turn in scholarship, thinking, and being.

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S7E8: Pavlov’s Dogs with Matthew Adams

2/6/2025
Matthew Adams joins Claudia on the show to talk about the dogs who were used by Ivan Pavlov in his extensive laboratory operations in St Petersburg. They discuss the importance of psychology and psychological experimentation in debates about multispecies health, also pointing to the importance of art-based research that challenges anthropocentricism. Recorded: 10 September 2024. Matthew Adams is an academic in the School of Humanities & Social Sciences at the University of Brighton, UK. He teaches classes in ecopsychology, the psychology of human-animal relations, posthumanities and creative methods. Mathew’s research challenges conventional perceptions of animal experimentation and considers the nature of scientific work. From 2022-2024, Mathew worked as an Arts and Humanities Research Council Fellow on a project entitled Pavlov and the kingdom of dogs: Storying experimental animal histories through arts-based research. Read more about the project in Qualitative Research in Psychology and Trace: Journal for Human-Animal Studies; or explore the online exhibition. Matthew’s most recent book is titled Anthropocene Psychology: Being Human in a More-Than-Human World, and he is currently working on another, provisionally titled An A-Z of the Anthropocene: Key Ideas for Navigating End Times and New Beginnings. Find out more about Matthew and his work on instagram (@dogsofpavlov), X (@mattadams0)and via his university profile. Featured: Pavlov and the kingdom of dogs Ecological Crisis, Sustainability and the Psychosocial Subject Anthropocene Psychology: Being Human in a More-than-human world Nature and Experience in the Culture of Delusion Send us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, X, LinkedIn, You Tube, BlueSky and Instagram. Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:26:13

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S7E7: Urban Health Histories with Heeral Chhabra

1/20/2025
In this episode we delve into how urban health histories can help us to understand changing multispecies health. Heeral Chhabra tells us how the welfare of free-roaming dogs in India was caught up with the colonial history of the country and how rabies saw drastic changes in human-dog relations. Date Recorded: 27 September 2024. Heeral Chhabra is a Post-Doctoral Research Associate with the Remaking One Health: Decolonial Approaches to Street Dogs and Rabies Prevention in India Project at University of Liverpool. She was awarded PhD from the University of Delhi (2022) for her thesis Animal ‘Welfare’, State Regulations and Questions of Cruelty c.1900-1940s which sought to understand animal-human relationships in colonial India through the prism of law. Her career trajectory so far has led her to research positions and teaching endeavours globally. She is also a Visiting Fellow at IASH, Edinburgh University and has previously been a Global History Fellow at International Institute of Social History. She has published widely on matters related to animals in Indian history. She is currently working on her manuscript The Barking Subjects of Empire: The History of Street Dog-Human relations in Colonial India, and also co-editing two books - Animals and South Asian History: Species, People and Environment; and Writing Global History from Global South. Featured: Animals and Colonial Indian ArchivesAnimals, Agency, and Class: Writing the History of Animals from BelowAnimals as Experiencing Entities: Theories and Historical NarrativesThe biopolitics of animal being and welfare: dog control and care in the UK and IndiaAn analytical framework to understand the problematization of urban (historical) animalsThe Kingdom of Dogs Remember to Leave a Review on Podchaser and to check out The Animal Turn Merch. You can also support the show financially via Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee, and Buzzsprout. Send us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, X, LinkedIn, You Tube, BlueSky and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:17:14

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S7E6: Compassionate Conservation with Daniel Ramp

1/13/2025
This episode dives into the principles of compassionate conservation, emphasizing the importance of recognizing individual lives and experiences in conservation efforts. Daniel Ramp outlines how traditional conservation often overlooks the welfare of specific animals, leading to harmful outcomes, and presents compelling arguments for integrating compassion into conservation policies and practices. Date Recorded: 1 November 2024. Daniel Ramp is a behavioural ecologist, welfare expert, and conservation biologist specializing in transdisciplinary approaches to coexistence and sustainability. He is the Founder and Director of the Centre for Compassionate Conservation at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), where he is an Associate Professor in the Transdisciplinary School. He leads the development of research, teaching, and public outreach in the centre, where the goal is to stimulate innovation, novel research, and conservation practices that promote multispecies flourishing. Dan conducts research on compassionate conservation, wild animal welfare, environmental ethics, and wildlife ecology, while also collaborating widely with other disciplines. He has led many large research projects, working with government and industry to engage in evidenced-based policy transformation that promote multispecies coexistence and sustainability, particularly in production landscapes around the world. His passion is reimagining what nature conservation can be and who it is for. Featured: Centre for Compassionate Conservation IUCN Red ListEcology. Whose conservation?Preventing extinction in an age of species migration and planetary changeFailing Forward: The Rise and Fall of Neoliberal ConservationThe elephant (head) in the room: A critical look at trophy hunting Thank you to A.P.P.L.E for sponsoring this podcast and ROH Indies Send us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, X, LinkedIn, You Tube, BlueSky and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:46:14

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S7E5: Marginalized Multispecies Collectives with Oswaldo Santos Baquero

12/23/2024
Join us for a conversation with Oswaldo Santos Baquero about marginalized multispecies collectives. He explains the complexities of biological taxonomy and challenges traditional definitions of species to instead think about how collectives operate. By critically analyzing health practices through the lens of multispecies marginalization, Oswaldo challenges us to reconsider the economic interests that often overshadow the well-being of both animals and humans. Date Recorded: 28 August 2024. Oswaldo Santos Baquero is a professor in the Department of Preventive Veterinary Medicine and Animal Health at the School of Veterinary Medicine of the University of São Paulo and in the Peripheries Research Group at the Institute of Advanced Studies. He coordinates the Multispecies Health Network (MUHE Network), dedicated to the (re)production of the good life (buen vivir) of marginalised multispecies collectives. He has a degree in veterinary medicine (Universidad Nacional de Colombia), a PhD in epidemiology from the University of São Paulo (USP), a post-doctorate in public health (USP) and a specialisation in data science (Johns Hopkins University). He works with and had published on matters related to decolonisation, biopolitics, political ecology and science and technology studies. Featured: MUHE NetworkOn the Origin of SpeciesStaying with the TroubleMeeting the Universe HalfwayWildlife Conservation SocietyAnimal Rights/Human RightsThank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics for sponsoring this podcast; Remaking One Health Indies for sponsoring this season; and the Phoenix Zones Initiative for sponsoring this episode. Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, Jeremy John for the logo, Rebecca Shen for her design work, Priyanshu Thapliyal fo Send us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Phoenix Zones Initiative An organization on a mission to change the policies and practices that drive the exploitation of vul Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, X, LinkedIn, You Tube, BlueSky and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:51:49

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S7E4: Behavioural Ecology with Anindita Bhadra

12/3/2024
Anindita Bhadra joins Claudia on the show to explain what behavioural ecology is and how it has been applied to understanding the free-roaming dogs in India. They discuss the interconnections between domestication and evolution, the social organization of free roaming dogs, and dogs relationships with urban ecologies. Date Recorded: 16 August 2024. Anindita Bhadra is a behavioural biologist, working on free-ranging dogs in India. She founded The Dog Lab at the Department of Biological Sciences, Indian Institute of Science Education and Research Kolkata in June 2009. She has written about dogs in leading journals such as PloS One, Animal Cognition, Ethology, Ecology and Evolution. Connect with Anindita Bhadra on X (@Abhadra7). “Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution” - Theodosius Dobzhansky Featured: We know that the wasps ‘know’Scavengers in the human-dominated landscape: an experimental studyReady, set, yellow! Color Preference of Indian Free-ranging Dogs Animal Highlight: Rashmi Singh Rana tells us more about guard dogs, this time delving into the lives of Simru and Sheru a mother-son duo working in the trans-Himalayas. Remember to Leave a Review on Podchaser and to check out The Animal Turn Merch. You can also support the show financially via Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee, and Buzzsprout. Send us a message Living Limitless Podcast Break free from the ordinary - explore bold ideas, big dreams, and the path to Limitless! Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:15:38

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S7E3 - Species Story with Mariam Fraser Motamedi

11/18/2024
In this episode Mariam Motamedi-Fraser joins us in the show to discuss ‘species story’ a concept she developed in her book Dog Politics. We discuss how the human-dog bond has been established and maintained through modern day practices and scientific discourses which have implications for how dogs can live. Date Recorded: 31 July 2024. Mariam Motamedi Fraser is an Honorary Senior Research Fellow in the interdisciplinary research group UCL Anthropocene, in the Department of Geography. Her research is located in the field of animal studies. She is particularly interested in the implications, for animals, of the concepts and theories that are deployed to ‘explain’ them in both science and non-science research. Mariam is the author of three monographs and two co-edited collections, and has published in a wide range of journals. Her most recent book, Dog Politics: Species Stories and the Animal Sciences (Manchester University Press, 2024), is a critical analysis of the idea that relationality-with-humans somehow constitutes dogs’ evolutionary destiny. The book is partly informed by her experience of volunteering at The Dog Hub, a dog training and behavioural centre in London. She is strongly committed to teaching animal studies, and to the transformative experience that learning about animals in a structured setting offers students ( m.motamedifraser@ucl.ac.uk). Featured: Dog PoliticsThe War Against AnimalsPetsAnimal BiographiesWild JusticeDo Fish ResistS3E3: Invisibilized Animals with Paula ArcariMother with Yamini NarayananSend us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:33:10

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S7E2 - Healthy Publics with Melanie Rock and Gwendolyn Blue

11/11/2024
Gwendolyn Blue and Melanie Rock join Claudia on the show to discuss ‘healthy publics.’ They explore how the idea of ‘public health’ has persistently been conceived of as human and unpack some of the opportunities and challenges with conceiving of multispecies health. From the historical roots of the ‘One Health’ to the modern challenges of public participation and representation, Melanie and Gwendolyn offer thought-provoking perspectives on stretching health frameworks beyond humans. Date Recorded: 2 July 2024. Melanie Rock is a professor at the University of Calgary is in the Department of Community Health Sciences. Since joining the University of Calgary’s medical school in 2003, Melanie has drawn on her training in anthropology, health promotion, and social work in a series of projects centered on multi-species research. These projects have spanned community services, family dynamics, and social policy. The funders have included the Canadian Institutes of Health Research and the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. To date, Melanie has led or co-authored more than 100 scholarly publications. Gwendolyn Blue is a critical interpretive social scientist who conducts research on environmental governance, public science, and participatory practice. Her focus is primarily on symbolic and epistemic politics (e.g. how issues are represented, whose expertise counts, which values matter), and how these politics influence participatory engagement across issues such as climate change, genomics, and zoonotic disease. She is particularly interested in identifying the assumptions, values, and contexts that ‘open up’ and ‘close down’ inclusive engagement. Featured: Animal Publics: Accounting for Heterogeneity in Political LifeWhen Species MeetBiosecurity with Steve HinchliffeThe Public and its ProblemsSend us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Phoenix Zones Initiative An organization on a mission to change the policies and practices that drive the exploitation of vul Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:52:18

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S7E1: Multispecies Health with Guillem Rubio-Ramon and Krithika Srinivasan

11/4/2024
Guillem Rubio-Ramon and Krithika Srinivasan join Claudia to kick of Season 7 which is focused on “multispecies health.” They discuss human-dog relations and how multispecies health involves components of care, indifference and violence. Date Recorded: 7 June 2024. Guillem Rubio-Ramonis a Research Associate in Human Geography at the University of Edinburgh. His research integrates more-than-human geographies and political ecologies to study the reciprocal influence of animals and humans on each other's socio-cultural, economic and political lives. He is currently involved in the Remaking One Health – Indies project, which explores everyday interactions between people and free-living dogs in India. His PhD research examined how nonhuman animals, particularly those involved in pig farming in Catalonia and salmon aquaculture in Scotland, can be understood as essential actors in the nation-making projects of these regions. Krithika Srinivasan is a Professor of Political Ecology at the University of Edinburgh. Her research and teaching interests lie at the intersection of political ecology, post-development politics, animal studies, and nature geographies. Her work draws on research in South Asia to rethink globally established concepts and practices about nature-society relations and reconfigure approaches to multispecies justice. Krithika is the principal investor of the project Remaking One Health Indies. She has published widely, including in journals such as the Sociological Review, Geoforum, and Environment and Planning. Learn more about the ROHIndies project on their website and connect with Krithika on Twitter (@KritCrit) Featured: Remaking One Health Indies ProjectHybrid Publics of Human and Other-than-Human Life: Free-Living Dogs and the “Green” and “Healthy” City in India Thank you to A.P.P.L.E for sponsoring this podcast, Send us a message Wild Times: Wildlife Education Wildlife mysteries, crazy news, and daring animal stories—listen now! Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Remaking One Health (ROH) Indies This project investigates people-dog interactions, dog ecology, and rabies prevention efforts in urb Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:29:35

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Bonus: Exploring Dog Cognition with Alexandra Horowitz

11/3/2024
Claudia talks to scientist and author, Alexandra Horowitz about dogs’ cognition. They discuss everything from dogs’ sense of smell and capacity to play to how anthropomorphisms sometimes skew human understandings of what dogs are doing. Date Recorded: 15 August 2024 Alexandra Horowitz heads the Dog Cognition Lab at Barnard College, where she also teaches seminars in canine cognition, creative nonfiction writing, and audio storytelling. She is the author of the New York Times bestseller Inside of a Dog: What Dogs See, Smell, and Know and four other books, most recently The Year of the Puppy: How Dogs Become Themselves. She lives with her family of Homo sapiens, Canis familiaris, and Felis catus in New York City. Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder is an animal studies geographer and podcast producer and host. Claudia has a PhD in Geography from Queen’s University, and her research is focused on the significance of the problematization of urban animals. She is particularly interested in multispecies urban spatial governance. Contact Claudia via email (info@theanimalturnpodcast.com) or follow her on Twitter (@ClaudiaFTowne). Featured: On LookingS2E2: Cognitive Ethology with Marc BekoffBonus: Wonder(dog) with Jules HowardAnthropomorphism and AnthropodenialWhat is it like to be a bat?The Study That Made Rats Jump for Joy, and Then Killed ThemCan dogs tell the time? Thank you to A.P.P.L.E for sponsoring this podcast; Gordon Clarke for the bed music, Jeremy John for the logo, and Rebecca Shen for her design work. This episode was edited and produced by the host Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder. Send us a message A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:02:15:33

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Bonus: Kindred Creatures with Monica Murphy and Bill Wasik

10/28/2024
Monica Murphy and Bill Wasik join Claudia on the show to talk about their recent book Our Kindred Creatures. They discuss how the late 19th century was a time of immense change for Americans and their relationships with animals became increasingly contradictory. Date Recorded: 15 July 2024 Bill Wasik is the editorial director of The New York Times Magazine. Monica Murphy is a veterinarian and a writer. Their previous book, Rabid: A Cultural History of the World’s Most Diabolical Virus, was a Los Angeles Times best seller and a finalist for the PEN/E. O. Wilson Literary Science Writing Award. They live in Brooklyn, New York. Featured: Our Kindred Creatures Rabid: A Cultural History of the World’s Most Diabolical Virus Nature’s MetropolisBonus: Veterinary Ethics and Animal Welfare with Sean WensleyS5E5: Animal Testing and its Alternatives with Thomas Hartung Rate us on Podchaser and check out our Merch Store. Thank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast; Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, Jeremy John for the logo. This episode was edited and produced by the show host Claudia Hirtenfelder. Send us a message Wild Times: Wildlife Education Wildlife mysteries, crazy news, and daring animal stories—listen now! Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:01:18:34

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Bonus: Animals in Media

10/8/2024
Bonus: Animals in Media Together with Arukah Animal International, The Animal Turn co-hosted a panel discussion focused on "Animals in Media". Using a video about animalized hierarchies in contagion films as a prompt, Claire Parkinson, Susan McHugh, and Tobias Linné engaged in an open-ended about media, representation, power, and activism. Date Recorded: 22 May 2024 Claire Parkinson is Professor of Culture, Communication and Screen Studies and Co-director of the Centre for Human Animal Studies at Edge Hill University. Her publications include the books Popular Media and Animals (2011), Beyond Human: From Animality to Transhumanism (2012), Animals, Anthropomorphism and Mediated Encounters (2019) and Animal Activism On and Off Screen (2024). Connect with Claire on Twitter (@molloy_claire). Susan McHugh, Professor of English at the University of New England, USA, researches and teaches literary, visual, and scientific narratives of cross-species relations. She is the author of three monographs, most recently Love in a Time of Slaughters: Human-Animal Stories Against Genocide and Extinction (2019), and coeditor of six edited collections, including Animal Satire (2023). McHugh serves as co-editor of two book series, Palgrave Studies in Animals and Literature and Plants and Animals: Interdisciplinary Approaches, as well as Editor-in-Chief of Society & Animals. Tobias Linné is an assistant professor at the Department of Communication and Media. His research explores veganism and how animals are made accessible Send us a message Wild Times: Wildlife Education Wildlife mysteries, crazy news, and daring animal stories—listen now! Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify A.P.P.L.E Animals in Politics, Law, and Ethics researches how we live in interspecies societies and polities. Arukah Animal International Arukah Animal International seeks to end animal exploitation through advocacy, awareness, & the arts Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Support the show The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of the iROAR Network. It can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, LinkedIn, You Tube, and Instagram Learn more about the show on our website.

Duration:02:02:20