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Climactic x Climarte — "The Artist and the Activist" feat. Dale Cox

This episode our two hosts will be heard only briefly, before we dive into a live conversation from the beautiful Australian Galleries in Fitzroy, Melbourne. This is a very on-topic conversation about living in the time of climate change, meaningful action, and mental health, all in the context of amazing artwork. You can see this artwork yourself and follow along with the discussion! Simply look at your podcast app while you're listening to see the art that's being discussed, or check out...


Liz O'Dwyer and Madeline Clarke — "Sustainable Consulting, and starting from anywhere"

Mark sat down with two of his personal heroes, Liz O'Dwyer, hospitality consultant, author, and sustainability leader, and Madeline Clarke, individual sustainability consultant, who runs workshops, does waste talks on Trash Bags on Tour, and much more. Liz and Madeline are both fonts of wisdom, and Mark largely just got to sit back and listen. There's a lot of great advice in this episode, and definitely gives you a good idea of what you can expect in Liz's book, Switch on Sustainability, or...


Tracy Sorenson — "Writing climate fiction, living climate reality"

Tracy Sorensen is a woman of many talents. Filmmaker, writer, academic, and activist, she covers many of these topics in her chat with Rich. Her personal experience in learning about and coping with climate change is insightful and relatable. Her perspective on the power of arts and of climate fiction is fascinatinating and one the hosts couldn't agree with more, and we think you'll enjoy hearing. If you've got thoughts about the episode, and would like to join in the conversation, check out...


Gabriella Maher — "Six weeks waste free, and counting"

This is a great chat with one of those quietly inspiring people that surround us everyday. Gabby generously tells us about her life story, to really set the scene before getting into her experience of going totally waste-free for six weeks. Gabby is a volunteer facilitator at Climate for Change, a great group that's now expanded into Queensland from Victoria, and I think she represents well the skills and mindset you'd need to be a successful facilitator. If this has inspired you to give...


Mark Rathbone — Biodynamic Farming and Climate Change

This week Rich talks to second generation biodynamic farmer Mark Rathbone about biodynamics, replenishment of the soil, creating a closed system (circular economy) and the relevance of biodynamics in helping farmers mitigate against the effects of climate change. We also have a little chat about the upcoming climate change storytelling competition Climactic is running for University of Melbourne students. Check out the competition at We've got a new...


Climate Reality Project — 12 years on from An Inconvenient Truth

In this episode Mark does a panel interview with members of the Climate Reality Project, the group formed by Al Gore just after the release of An Inconvenient Truth, to train others to give his powerful presentation on climate change facts. In the panel are the two interns that together with Linh Do make up the Australian chapter of the group. Katy and Chris are just finishing their post-graduate studies, and they give great insight into what it's like to be a student at a time of rapid...


Laura Wilson — "The Tidy Kiwi"

This week is an exciting first for Climactic, with two Kiwis in the studio. Mark talks to Laura Wilson of Big Little Brush, a social enterprise in Melbourne using bamboo toothbrushes to do much, much more. Laura's story before getting involved with Big Little Brush is extremely relatable, and we talk landfills, minimalism, and backpacking through Europe. Then we dig into Big Little Brush, their mission to stop plastic toothbrushes pouring into tips, and how they support oral healthcare...


Fiona Rossiter — "The Practical Permaculturalist"

This week Rich talks to Fiona Rossiter, cafe owner, business woman, author, registered nurse, mother of eight and former councillor in the Central West city of Orange, NSW. Fiona tells her own history in running Orange’s iconic Bissy’s Cafe with husband Paul; how they “discovered” permaculture and how they now apply it their businesses, family life and even mode of thinking. A wonderful chat at a superb venue (the cafe), Fiona generously gives her time to talk of her amazing dreams for the...


Trash Bags on Tour

This week Mark does a solo flight, and by that we mean he takes a bus tour. But this is no normal tour — this is a beach clean-up and environmental outing put on by two tour groups employees looking to do something positive. And they pulled it off. Listen along with Mark as he gets up terribly early, heads out on a bus, makes new friends, and learns about what a beach clean really is. Special Guests: Kathryn Farrell and Melissa Tuliranta.


John Fry — "The Landcare Councillor"

Rich talks to John Fry, Environmental Projects Manager at Skillset, former Landcare co-ordinator, experienced land manager and now Greens councillor on Bathurst Regional Council. What John doesn’t know about sustainability in the Central West isn’t worth knowing! John was born and bred in the Central West and knows the land — and the effects of climate change on it — like the proverbial back of his hand. His insight, and warning that we can’t continue on a “business-as-usual” approach, serve...


Oli Moraes – "Creating a Climate for Change"

In this episode Mark talks to Oli Moraes, a facilitator trainer for Climate for Change, an environmental group that's combining climate change conversations with a powerful model, one perfected decades ago by Tupperware. You'll learn what made a driven university student change paths, give away his car, and dive into a passion for climate change communication and volunteering. Oli's story is powerful, and great for any young person or university student in your life. Special Guest: Oli...


Waste Special, Part One

The first in a two-part series, this episode frames the new and concerning waste recycling problem in Australia. The situation has grown critical since China’s “National Sword” decision earlier this year, not to take our recycling. Changing the ground rules on what they will — and won’t — accept has closed the door, leaving our councils effectively buried under a pile of waste. We talk to Councillors and Council staff to find out the very real stress the decision has placed them under to...


Interview with El Gibbs — "The Consensus Builder"

This week, Climactic co-host Rich Bowden trudges back — with microphone and coffee money in hand — to his previous hometown of Katoomba, in the Blue Mountains, west of Sydney. There he sat down with old friend, community activist, freelance writer, disability advocate, Aussie Rules footy fan and local legend El Gibbs after a brilliant lunch for a fun, fascinating and, at times, passionate interview. Rich wore out the bleeper covering the swear words on this one! Those who know El well know...


Interview with Councillor Kat Copsey - "The Waste Guru"

In this week’s episode, Climactic co-host Mark Spencer talks to Cr Kat Copsey of Port Phillip Council in Melbourne, Victoria. Kat chats about her “aha” moments in her rise to becoming an advocate in the ongoing battle against global warming and also talks of her love for the arts and artistic expression. However on issues as important as climate change Cr Copsey told Mark that “systemic change” was absolutely necessary and the sooner this change is implemented, the better for our society. “I...


Interview with Dugald Holmes — "Unexpected Climate Activist"

In this episode, Mark talks to Dugald Holmes, his great friend and inspiration behind the setting up of Climactic. Inspiration? Well with his organisational skill, Dug was a driving force behind the prevention of the building a massive gas power station plant in the ACT, a fascinating story you’ll hear in some detail in the interview. It was this achievement, this astonishing battle against all the odds, that has driven Mark to establish Climactic with the same passionate goals — to help...


Interview with Councillor Tim Baxter — "Combating Climate Change through Local Government"

Episode 3 sees Mark Spencer go one-on-one with Councillor Tim Baxter of Melbourne’s Port Phillip Council. Tim’s passion for the environment and determination to drive through essential policies designed to mitigate against climate change is obvious in this free-wheeling and fascinating chat. He discusses what Council’s role is in implementing green policies and how important feedback from the community is for councillors. There’s a great deal here too for local democracy enthusiasts as Tim...


Interview with Maxine Bazeley — "The Recruiter"

The first of Climactic’s interviews conducted in a professional setting at the Library at the Dock studios, our second episode is Mark’s fascinating, fun, and informative chat with Maxine Bazeley of Teal Collective. Maxine has worked in recruitment for many years and she kindly takes us through the essence of good and bad management practice in this industry, with the benefit of her experience. She also tells us her story, saying there was a point, after an accident, when she realised the...


Welcome to Climactic

Setting the scene in this first episode, Mark Spencer, founder of Climactic, and co-host Rich Bowden talk about the goals they have for their new podcast. The pair discuss the storytelling approach they will take to bringing listeners information and ideas on sustainable living. Mark and Rich also give an insight into the interviews they will be using to anchor the show as well as the importance they give to listener engagement to the success of the show. Both Mark and Rich love talking to...



Teaser episode anchoring the show. Have a listen for your first taste of the show, albeit with only the one host. First full episode coming April 22nd (Earth Day). Subscribe now to get the earliest access!