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A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar

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The podcast where we mix a sometimes weird but always delicious cocktail of theology, philosophy, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is a philosophy PhD and an expert in disagreement and philosophy of religion. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.

The podcast where we mix a sometimes weird but always delicious cocktail of theology, philosophy, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is a philosophy PhD and an expert in disagreement and philosophy of religion. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.

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United States

Description:

The podcast where we mix a sometimes weird but always delicious cocktail of theology, philosophy, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is a philosophy PhD and an expert in disagreement and philosophy of religion. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.

Language:

English

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Episodes

The Truth Will Set Us Free: An Interview w/ Lisa Sharon Harper

7/1/2022
Buckle up, friends...this is a major episode. Lisa Sharon Harper wrote Fortune, which dives into and details the history of her ancestors from Africa, to slave ships, to plantations and displaced and colonized Native Americans, all the way through to her own lived experience and the trauma, bravery, and resilience she carries in her own body through her ancestors. The book details the history and making of America in brutally honest ways...ways we all need to hear. This interview is raw,...

Duration:01:12:01

Miracles and Unanswered Prayers with Craig Keener

6/17/2022
Does God move supernaturally in our world today? Should we expect miracles? These are questions that New Testament scholar Craig Keener investigated, documented, and wrote about in his book Miracles Today. The book is fascinating...and a bit frustrating, but also compelling and deeply researched. Dr. Keener has also written a ridiculous amount of scholarly work on the New Testament, and we go into some of that expertise for our Patreon supporters, so subscribe if you're interested in some NT...

Duration:00:57:08

Understanding Unconscious Bias: Interview with Jessica Nordell

6/3/2022
In this episode, we speak with science writer and award-winning journalist Jessica Nordell about her book The End of Bias: A Beginning. It's an extraordinarily well-researched and compellingly written explanation of the science of implicit bias, covering its manifestations in many areas, including sexism, racism, policing, and more. Our conversation tackles how to understand implicit bias, as well as evidence-based methods of attempting to solve the problems it creates. Along the way, we...

Duration:01:11:10

Oceans of Problems: Hillsong Exposed Exposes Us All

5/20/2022
In this episode, we reflect on the documentary from Discovery Plus, Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed. If you haven't watched the three part miniseries, it's gross, tragic, and maddening, and yet it feels like many of us in the church find a part of our story in this broken story of manipulation, abuse, and consumerism. We talk about the fine line between being welcoming and being manipulative, how easy it is to abuse "volunteers," and how easy it is to throw anything and anybody under the bus...

Duration:01:07:34

When Pastors Critique Scholars: An Interview with Scott Coley

5/6/2022
We speak with philosopher Scott Coley about the phenomenon of pastors and internet theobrogians publicly critiquing the work of credentialed scholars. Why is this so popular, how are those that do it so confident, and how are normal people fooled by it? As Scott asks in an article, "What conditions make it possible for otherwise reasonable people to believe that the carefully considered arguments of accomplished scholars are vulnerable to obvious and devastating objections raised by...

Duration:00:59:42

A Rabbi, A Pastor, and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar

4/21/2022
We've been excited to talk to a Jewish scholar for some time now...and not just for the obvious episode title opportunity, either. For those of us who consider ourselves Christians, to understand Judaism is to understand the roots of our faith tradition. In this episode, we interview Rabbi Or Rose from Hebrew College in Boston, MA. Rabbi Rose specializes in inter-religious studies and takes us into the world of inter-religious dialogue, the value of it, along with ancient Jewish practices...

Duration:01:11:40

What Pastors Wish They Could Say

4/8/2022
There's a little secret pretty much every pastor has that they can't share with their congregation. Well, actually, a number of secrets. We're not talking about dark and hidden sins (hopefully, at least). We're talking about things your pastor believes or thinks that they don't feel safe enough to share with your church. Pretty much all pastors have beliefs and opinions that they feel passionate about, but if they said them publicly, they'd worry about losing their jobs, or losing a major...

Duration:00:42:16

LGBTQ Christians, Shame, and Love: Interview with Dawne Moon and Theresa Tobin

3/25/2022
In the conclusion of our four-part series on LGBTQ people and the church, we speak with Drs. Dawne Moon, a sociologist, and Theresa Tobin, a philosopher, who research and write collaboratively about the experiences of LGBTQ Christians in non-affirming church spaces. This conversation is frank, profound, heartbreaking, and, somehow, funny. We discuss their concept of "sacramental shame" and how it's used against LGBTQ people, what binary gender has to do with sexuality, the origin of gender...

Duration:01:18:22

Heavy Burdens: Interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera (Part 2)

3/11/2022
We return for part two of our interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera, the author of Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways LGBTQ Christians Experience Harm in the Church. In the conclusion, we discuss the common claim that the Bible is "clear" when it comes to LGBTQ issues, when (and why) the word "homosexual" was added to the Bible, what the Greek actually does and doesn't say, how sex was understood in the Roman world, trans issues and where the idea of binary gender categories comes from, whether...

Duration:00:46:52

Heavy Burdens: Interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera (Part 1)

2/24/2022
Bridget Eileen Rivera wrote one of the most important books we've read. Period. The book is Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways LGBTQ Christians Experience Harm in the Church, and it's a doozy. We had so much important stuff to talk about that we made this episode a two parter. We chat about the awful stories of trauma and abuse that Queer Christians experience on a regular basis in the church, how the Protestant Reformation changed everything about the way the church saw sex, and the many double...

Duration:00:51:07

LGBTQ, the Church, and Why We're Affirming

2/10/2022
Finally, we talk about sexuality, the queer community, and why we're affirming. This is a very personal episode (as much as it can be for a couple of straight white dudes). In this episode, we chat about where we came from, where we are now, and how we got there. Within that conversation, we touch on the Bible, philosophy, science, reason, the beauty in the LGBTQ community, and much more. This episode begins a four episode mini-series on human sexuality and LGBTQ issues. The beer we...

Duration:01:09:48

Porn, Games, and Echo Chambers: An Interview with Dr. C. Thi Nguyen

1/27/2022
This one's fun. Thi Nguyen is a philosopher from the University of Utah and studies epistemology and philosophy of art, community, and games. He also used to be a food critic and enjoys great whiskey. A man after our own hearts. In this episode, we'll talk about things like the seduction of clarity, moral outrage porn, epistemic bubbles, echo chambers, expertise, and our gamified world. Seriously fascinating stuff. You can find Thi's work at his website: https://objectionable.net/. His...

Duration:01:08:51

Subversive Witness: An Interview with Dominique DuBois Gilliard

1/14/2022
Buckle up for this one, friends, because Dominique DuBois Gilliard brings straight fire. Dominique's book is, "Subversive Witness: Scripture's Call to Leverage Privilege", and it's a good one. In this episode, we talk about using privilege on behalf of the marginalized, giving power away, what it's like to be Black in America (and in the Church in America) and many more topics. Make sure to share this on the socials...everyone needs to sit in this with us. The podcast with Willie Jennings...

Duration:01:17:53

Self-care, Mental Health, and COVID-19 - Interview with Jenny Heckman (Re-Release from S01E03)

12/28/2021
For New Year's, we're revisiting an episode from early in Season 1. We spoke with professional counselor and former pastor Jenny Heckman (MS, LPC, NCC) about dealing with anxiety and staying mentally healthy during the pandemic. We think her insights here are important and every bit as relevant as they were last year. We'll be back on our regular schedule with new content on January 12. The beer featured in this episode is Strawberry Rhubarb Wild Fruit Ale by New Glarus Brewing...

Duration:00:59:06

Shane Claiborne on How to Be a Christian in America

12/16/2021
Shane Claiborne...what a gem. Shane has written a number of incredible books including The Irresistible Revolution and Jesus for President, and we got the opportunity to chat with him about a whole bunch of things. The cult (and possible heresy) of Christian nationalism, trying to embody the Sermon on the Mount as an American, the death penalty, and a number of other things. Shane is a delight and has such a knack for centering every topic of every conversation back to Jesus. The beer we...

Duration:01:18:37

Theology From the Margins: An Interview with Kat Armas

12/2/2021
Where does real theology and spirituality happen? Should we continue looking to the academy and pulpits or might we find a more embodied and lived theology and spirituality in the kitchens and homes of marginalized women? Kat Armas calls us and our theology to the marginalized and colonized women in her book Abuelita Faith. It's a powerful book that is delightfully decentering and challenges our theology and spirituality that has been formed by people in power. She draws us to the forgotten...

Duration:00:58:22

Converging Traditions, Toxic Environments, and Healthy Spiritual Practices: An Interview with Aaron Niequist

11/17/2021
Aaron Niequist has been to the top of the evangelical mountain and has experienced first hand the goodness and the toxicity and the pain that is often a byproduct of that world. He's come out of the belly of the evangelical beast without the bitterness and cynicism that many of us fall victim to. He doesn't want to label himself an Ex-vangelical. He's dreaming of living in and creating spiritual places and practices that are a convergence of the best of a number of Christian traditions, and...

Duration:01:14:06

How to Be Happy: A Conversation with Frank Schaeffer

11/3/2021
We cover a lot of ground in this one folks. You may know Frank Schaeffer as the son of famed evangelical author Francis Schaeffer, but since helping his father found the religious right in America (we're not kidding), Frank has had a dramatic personal transformation and a fascinating career. We talk with him about his new book Fall in Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. The conversation covers Frank's role in abortion becoming the cause célèbre of the American...

Duration:01:09:39

Shoutin' in the Fire: Interview with Danté Stewart

10/21/2021
Danté Stewart's book Shoutin' in the Fire: An American Epistle is one of the most stirring and powerfully written that we've encountered on the podcast. This conversation with him is comparable. He's engaging, funny, and erudite all at once, and he has critical things to teach the white church if we'll listen. He's also super well-read, and he wants you to be too. Here are the five authors/books he mentions in the episode: The ProphetsThe Secret Lives of Church LadiesHeavyLook Both...

Duration:00:56:03

What Happens When We Die?

10/6/2021
Heavy. Weighty. Decentering. In this episode we discuss the afterlife. What happens when we die? Kyle takes us on a journey through historic philosophical thinking about afterlife and why we just don't know what happens when we die. Randy mixes in some pastoral and spiritual insights here and some possible heresy there...delicious. Content Warning: If the idea of the possibility of there being no life after death is too disturbing at this moment to consider, please don't listen to this...

Duration:01:09:18