Irenicast - A Progressive Christian Podcast

In Irenicast’s first full episode in over two years the team discusses Christian Nationalism. Bonnie, Casey, Jeff and Rajeev go deep on the origins and dangers of Christian Nationalism RELEVANT LINKS The New Testament as Political Documents A Campgate of the Mind: Roman Propaganda and Trump’s America (Article) What Gov. Gavin Newsom’s order to clear homeless encampments means for the people who live in them (Article) 'Invisible in our own country': Being Muslim in Modi's India (Article) The Handmaid's Tale (TV Series) J.D. Vance said parents should ‘have more power’ than people without children (Article) Ruby Sales: How we can start to heal the pain of racial division | TED (Youtube Video) IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and Haystacks Podcast. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host You can follow Casey on Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Facebook, Instagram You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host You can connect with Rajeev on Facebook, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Like Us on Facebook Listen & Follow Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud See Us on Instagram Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

We are back! Irenciast has taken many different forms over the years and after a couple year break we return in a new iteration. In this episode we take some time and catch our listeners up on where we’ve been and what we’ve been up to. In addition we provide some information on the direction of the show. We are so happy to be back and are tremendously thankful for everyone that listens. We look forward to continuing the conversation with you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Like Us on Facebook - http://www.fb.com/irenicast Listen & Follow Us on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/irenicast-a-progressive-christian-podcast/id973641238 & Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2I8ZocjK9u4d8PMEWeJFDU?si=F0PCz8RH See Us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/irenicast/ Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

Thanks for joining the conversation for 200 episodes of Irenicast! In this episode the hosts answer your questions. The topics range from the bible, hell, marriage and more. After 7 years and 200 episodes the Irenicast team is still so thankful to helping provoke the progressive Christian imagination. Here’s to 200 more! Thanks for Joining the Conversation Comments & Questions: #1 (01:58) - New Zealand Listener Audio Question #2 (08:29) - New Zealand Listener #2, Email #3 (13:24) - Recent Apple Podcast Review #4 (14:25) - Audio Question #2 #5 (25:04) - Listener Email from Former Adventist #6 (32:36) - Listener Email from Florida #7 (39:06) - Final Audio Question #8 (46:10) - Listener Email from Washington #9 (51:27) - Anonymous Listener Email #10 (59:58) - Final Message ANNOUNCEMENTS As mentioned in the episode we are taking a short break from producing new episodes to prepare for future Intersection cohorts and classes. But please stay connected while we are on another short break by subscribing to our email list. Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! RELEVANT LINKS From Our Thanks for Joining the Conversation Q&A The Generational Divide – Special Guest Co-Host Selah Cluff – 193Past episodes that are ‘salvation’ adjacentBeyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183Atonement Theology Revisited – What’s the Cross Got to Do with It? – 175The Diversity of Christian Theologies – What Straight Old White Guys Don't Tell You – 136The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086Why Did Jesus Die? – Standing at the Foot of Atonement Theology – 059Heaven and Hell – Get the Hell Outta Here – 018Haystacks Podcast(Bonnie & Rajeev’s podcast for former Adventists)Past episodes concerning the BibleCosmology Shapes Our Theology – A Chaotic Journey – 138The Nature of Biblical Texts – Wholly Scripture, Batman! – 004 Interpreting the Bible Part 1 – Literally Literature – 063Interpreting the Bible Part 2 – A Scribed Meaning – 064Interpreting the Bible Part 3 – Collecting Lenses – 065A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed AmericabyBruce Cannon Gibney(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host You can connect with Rajeev at Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback...

One thing that tends to get left out of many conversations on deconstruction is atheism and agnosticism. Why is this? Even when it is brought up, it is rarely spoken of as an ending point. Why is that? Can our deconstruction lead us to atheism and agnosticism? Is that ‘okay’? Spoilers, we think it is. In this episode the Irenicast hosts discuss the important space atheism and agnosticism hold for so many on their journeys. Perhaps what we believe is less important than how we hold those beliefs. Fundamentalism can rear its ugly head in any ideology, god or no god. And in the spirit of irony, the hosts close out the episode by sharing the Top 3 things they are against. And in Irenicast fashion, not all of the hosts understand the assignment. Conversation on Atheism and Agnosticism (02:12) Top 3 Segment (41:31) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode! You can reach out on all of our social media platformsFacebook,TwitterandInstagramOr better yet! Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com! Please include your name and what state or country you’re from. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Atheism and Agnosticism Brian McLaren & Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon – The Age of Secular Christianity – 155(Irenicast Episode)Waking Up: A Guide to Spirituality Without ReligionbySam Harris(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Christopher Eric Hitchens(A British-American author, journalist, orator and columnist)Richard Dawkins(A British evolutionary biologist and author)Josh McDowell(An evangelical Christian apologist and evangelist) Pluralism – You Be You, Unless You’re a Hobbit – 139(Irenicast Episode) Another Conversation with Jennifer Knapp – Theology, Music and Sous Vide – 125(Irenicast Episode) From Our Top 3 Segment Tenet(2020 Film) Why Americans still avoid MSG, even though its ‘health effects’ have been debunked(article) University Of California Reaches Final Decision: No More Standardized Admission Testing SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host You can connect with Rajeev at Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our...

War and Christianity are certainly not strangers. In fact, they seem pretty friendly many of the times. In this episode Bonnie, Rajeev and Jeff discuss the complicated history of war and Christianity. A discussion that seems especially timely considering the current invasion of Ukraine. The conversation starts by acknowledging the ample examples of divine mandated war in our religious text. To which, the wide path of Biblical interpretations has come up with many theological ‘theories’ on war and peace. Bonnie specifically lays out a great overview of the history of the peace movement in America from her studies to lay the foundation for the remainder of the episode. After sharing a little about their journeys through their thoughts and beliefs about war, the discussion delves deeper into pacifism. There soon seems to be a quick distinction between theory and reality. Struggling with questions like: What amount of privilege has led to your thoughts on war and peace? What does pacifism and non-violence look like on the ground when it is no longer a thought exercise? Are there moral absolutes when discussing war and violence? Is there movement on the spectrum of violence and oppression and peace and pacifism? And speaking of things that are better in theory, we introduce a new segment called Connect the Dots to close the episode. Conversation on War and Christianity (02:44) Connect the Dots Segment (42:33) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode! You can reach out on all of our social media platformsFacebook,TwitterandInstagram Or better yet! Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com! Please include your name and what state or country you’re from. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on War and Christianity William Lloyd GarrisonLeo TolstoyJohn Howard Yoder John Howard Yoder’s Sexual MisconductSermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7 NRSV) Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Resistance and ExecutionJust War Theory West Nickel Mines School Shooting(Shooting in Amish Community) From Our Connect the Dots Segment Karate Kid(1984 Film)Beverly Hills Cop(1984 Film) What is Love? – The Space Between – 191(Listen to the segment in this episode for context on ‘Kibbles and Bits’) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith...

In this episode on queer legacy, Casey shares a recent revelation from a queer history class he has been taking. He shares the history of the term two-spirit. A term used by some to describe Indigenous North American people who fulfilled a traditional third-gender ceremonial and social role in their cultures. As someone who is both queer and has Indigenous ancestry Casey expressed his deep sense of validation in his pastoral calling. Casey also takes this revelation and challenges us to take a new look at calling and purpose. This shifts the conversation into challenging the ideas we’ve been given about calling and purpose. Is calling for the few and capable or for all? Is it something that happens to us or something we live into? The episode ends with a fun couple of rounds of Jesus Juke. Listen to the end to find out just what it means to be a ‘Hot Tub Christian’. Conversation on Queer Legacy (03:49) Jesus Juke Segment (36:59) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode! You can reach out on all of our social media platformsFacebook,TwitterandInstagram Or better yet! Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com! Please include your name and what state or country you’re from. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Queer Legacy Two-Spirit- A modern, pan-Indian, umbrella term used by some Indigenous North Americans to describe Native people in their communities who fulfill a traditional third-gender (or other gender-variant) ceremonial and social role in their cultures.LGBT history in MexicoChickasaw(An indigenous people of the Southeastern Woodlands) Texas Governor Pushes to Investigate Medical Treatments for Trans Youth as ‘Child Abuse’(NYT Article) Florida House passes controversial measure dubbed the 'Don't Say Gay' bill by critics(NPR Article) History of LGBTQ Rights Cases In IowaTed HaggardJesus Camp(2006 Documentary) Spanish Missions in California SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and...

How do Eschatology and Process Theology fit together? This week we try and answer that question by sitting down with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord. Dr. Oord is an expert on Process Theology, also known as Open and Relational Theology. Many days it feels as though the end of the world is upon us. This is even true for people across the proverbial aisle. Although for much different reasons. In this conversation we explore endings through a Process Theology lens. Will things get better? Will there be an ultimate ending? What is God’s role, or lack thereof, in endings? Listen and find out what Dr. Oord and the Irencast team have to say about Eschatology and Process Theology. ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode! You can reach out on all of our social media platformsFacebook,TwitterandInstagram Or better yet! Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com! Please include your name and what state or country you’re from. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Eschatology and Process Theology Dr. Oord’s Latest Book:Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-BeingbyThomas Oord(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Dr. Oord’s Book with Bonnie as co-editor:Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Church of the Nazarene(Evangelical Christian Denomination)Holiness Movement Cru(until 2011 known as Campus Crusade for Christ) (Interdenominational Christian parachurch organization) Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey Left Behind LutheranAugustine of HippoAlfred North Whitehead(English Mathematician and Philosopher)Charles Hartshorne(American philosopher) Matthew 16:24-26 NRSV(Take up cross to follow Jesus verse) ORTCon 2022 ORTLine 2022 MORE ON OUR GUEST THOMAS JAY OORD Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, he teaches around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation. Check out his website at ThomasJayOord.com SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside...

The problem with patriarchal Christianity may seem obvious to many listeners of Irenicast. It is no surprise to us that patriarchy has done perhaps irrevocable damage to not just Christianity, but the nation as well. We are seeing the ripples of that sad truth on every level in society. In this episode, three beneficiaries of the the f**ked up system we’ve come to know and loathe discuss ways we can lay aside our privilege to make room for others to lead. It is not an easy task, and sometimes it seems like it is too little too late. However, as Rajeev points out, there is still some hope left. Is it enough to make a difference? And for our segment this week, Casey introduces the team to a new one called Bunker Buddies. Since most days feel like the end of the world is here, we figure we would lean into it and share the items we would bring to the Irenicast bunker to wait out the apocalypse. Conversation on The Problem with Patriarchal Christianity (02:52) Bunker Buddies Segment (39:57) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation The Problem with Patriarchal Christianity A Conversation with Carolyn Baker, Author of Confronting Christofascism – 194(Irenicast Episode) The Generational Divide – Special Guest Co-Host Selah Cluff – 193(Irenicast Episode)Angela Dorothea Merkel(Chancellor of Germany from 2005 to 2021)Jacinda Ardern(Prime Minister of New Zealand)Malala Yousafzai(Pakistani Activist)Good Night Stories for Rebel Girlsby Elena Favilli and Francesca Cavallo (Books - Amazon Affiliate Link) Landing Spot(Non-Profit Organization Helping LGBTQIA+ Teens in Sacramento, CA)Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human ExperiencebyBrené Brown(Books - Amazon Affiliate Link)Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound(Kindle Edition) by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Healing the Evangelical Wound: The End of Religious Authoritarianismby Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Encanto(2021 Film) From Our Bunker Buddies Segment Bob’s Burgers(Fox Animated Series) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE...

In this episode Bonnie sits down and has a compelling conversation with Carolyn Baker PhD mostly about her newest book, Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound. It is no secret that since 2016 the United States has felt as though it is on its last legs as a democracy. Carolyn shares with us many of her perspectives on why that is the case from her book. This conversation includes many of the things we are not supposed to talk about at the dinner table: religion and politics. Specifically the marrying of fascism and a large portion of American Christianity. Carolyn’s revolutionary mindset is on full display when she expands on a terms like religious terrorism and her books namesake, Christofascism. ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Carolyn Baker Carolyn Baker(Website)Carolyn Baker(Author Page)Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound(Kindle Edition) by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Healing the Evangelical Wound: The End of Religious Authoritarianismby Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Billy Graham(American Evangelist)Josh Hawley(American Politician)Thomas Cotton(American Politician)Christopher Hedges(American journalist, Presbyterian minister, author and television host)American Theocracy: The Peril and Politics of Radical Religion, Oil, and Borrowed Money in the 21st Centuryby Kevin Phillips (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their ReligionbyMarlene Winell(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Texas Senate Bill 8(Texas Abortion Law)George Walker Bush(43rd President of the United States)Jimmy Lee Swaggart(American Pentecostal Televangelist)Comfortable with Uncertainty: 108 Teachings on Cultivating Fearlessness and CompassionbyPema Chodron(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)The Cloud of Unknowing(an anonymous work of Christian mysticism written in Middle English in the latter half of the 14th century)New Age Jungian TherapyThe Hope: A Guide to Sacred ActivismbyAndrew Harvey(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Dietrich Bonhoeffer(German Lutheran pastor, theologian)James Finley(Clinical Psychologist and Author)The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and BelievebyRichard Rohr(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) MORE ON OUR GUEST CAROLYN BAKER Carolyn Baker’s mission is to create islands of sanity in a sea of global chaos. This mission necessitates the development of a variety of emotional tools alongside a commitment to spiritual transformation. Through her multifaceted outreach via webinars, podcasts, live workshops, books, and articles, as well as one-on-one life coaching, Carolyn is touching the lives of thousands to assist them in deeply adapting and becoming resilient in the face of the unprecedented changes confronting humanity. Hundreds of people have worked with Carolyn in recent years to receive guidance around living and loving in turbulent times. Carolyn also offers spiritual counseling to provide meaning and purpose in a time of personal and collective suffering. Carolyn believes that one of the key tools we need for navigating the global crisis is solid information. For nearly a decade, Carolyn has published a comprehensive Daily News Digest, seven days per week unless she is traveling. This amazing, subscription-based newsletter contains key stories on economics, the environment, world news, civil liberties, civil unrest, and cultural trends—and contains a unique Inspiration section that offers options for responding to our planetary predicament. Carolyn graduated from Michigan State...

The generational divide in our country feels massive. With the rise of Gen Z and the sentiment of ‘Okay Boomer’, it doesn't feel as though one generation values the other. If anything, younger generations especially are scapegoated for the direction our culture is taking. In this episode we welcome Selah Cluff and as a member of GenZ to discuss this divide and explore how we might cross it. One of the first places this discussion goes is how each generation views the future and what cultural events define the generations represented. It is a wide road of experiences and events that shapes such diverse outlooks on the world and it’s future. You won’t want to miss out on this conversation. And finally in an exercise of relevance, Selah quizzes the Irenicast hosts on current Gen Z slang. Find out which of the Irenicast team is in the know and who is stuck in a moment. Introduction of Our Guest Co-Host, Selah Cluff (02:35) Conversation on The Generational Divide (08:29) Gen Z Slang Segment (56:22) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Generational Divide Conversation TheArriving(Selah’s Podcast)Jon Batiste(American musician)MillennialsGeneration XXennialsGeneration Z September 11 Attacks: Facts, Background & ImpactGeroge W Bush(43rd President of the US)Barack Obama(44th President of the US)Cold WarGeraldine Ferraro(First Female VP Nominee)Tamil(Dravidian ethno-linguistic group who trace their ancestry mainly to India’s southern state of Tamil Nadu, union territory of Puducherry and to Sri Lanka) Space Shuttle Challenger(fatal accident in the United States' space program that occurred on January 28, 1986)Fishbone, Party at Ground Zero Attempted Assassination of Ronald Reagan The Columbine High School Shooting Sandy Hook School Shooting Oxford High School Shooting Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting in Parkland, FL Back to the Future(1985 Film)Greta Thunberg(Swedish activist) Latchkey KidsClarissa Pinkola Estés, Ph.D.,Dangerous Old Woman: Myths and Stories of the Wise Woman Archetype AIDS EpidemicMaking Due by Lake Street DiveJonah Big Trouble in Little Sanchez(Rick and Morty Episode, S2E7) From Our Gen Z Slang Segment YeetSimp Devious licks MORE ABOUT SELAH CLUFF AND HER PODCAST ‘THEARRIVING’ Selah Cluff is a UC Davis of California student majoring in sustainable Agriculture and host of a podcast called TheArriving: A Podcast for Gen Z and Other Victims of Inexperience! This podcast intends to provide food for the soul, food for thought and food for growth. At TheArriving, it will illuminate answers to the questions that have already been found and strive to answer the ones still in hiding. This podcast is created with Generation Z in mind but it's totally cool if you are older or younger. At TheArriving we recognize that no matter how much amazingness or potential we have, we just can't know it all or do it all alone. So, this podcast will harvest, and freely share, the fruits of wisdom and experience of our elders with special guests and recurring features. Join her at TheArriving and begin learning, growing and thriving. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We...

In Episode 192 Rebirthing Christmas - Virgin Mary Smashes the Patriarchy, Bonnie, Casey, Jeff, and Rajeev, discuss a broad range of feminist perspectives on Mary the mother of Jesus and virginity. Did ancient communities understand the concept of virginity through the lens of purity culture or did they hold a more sophisticated understanding of feminine power? We leaned towards the latter. The Magnificat by Mary in the Gospel of Luke is discussed with great interest and reverence. It is a most powerful passage that is often omitted from most liturgies. The conversation explores the fleshy, lived, experiences of women who have given birth, breastfed, and managed to carve out a place for themselves and their children in a patriarchal world. Ultimately we recognize the concept of virginity is a broad array of ideas and representative of feminine power that toxic-patriarchy has worked to suppress and control. The segment “Don’t Yuck My Yum” devolves into some gross recipe’s that will surely taint your views on every host. And, twizzlers, have holes in them and someone owes someone some packs…juss-sayin. Conversation on Rebirthing Christmas (01:56) Yuck or Yum Segment (47:08) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Rebirthing Christmas Critical Essays Augustine's View of SexualitySojourner Truth(American abolitionist and women's rights activist) Princess Bride(1987 Film)MagnificatVirgin MartyrsPatch Adams(1998 Film) Call the Midwife(Netflix TV Show) From Our Yuck or Yum Segment Postum SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and...

What is love? In this episode each host attempts to provide their definition of what they think love is. It quickly becomes apparent that the concept of love is more difficult to pin down than expected. Is love a feeling? Is love an action? Or is love where in between? And finally a new segment is introduced to end the show, Bad Advice Column. This segment quickly goes off the rails and hilarity ensues and fun is had by all. Conversation on What is Love (02:35) Bad Advice Column Segment (35:55) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on What is Love 1 Corinthians 13RuPaul(American drag queen, actor, model, singer, television personality, and author)Lady Bird(2017 Film) From Our Bad Advice Column Segment Kibbles n’ Bits SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What is hope? Christianity is filled with buzz words that we can easily take for granted or turn into catch phrases. In this episode the hosts discuss one of those words, hope. Hope can mean a lot of different things for different people. It can also feel like a concept that is slowly fading from view in the current world we live in. Each host shares their current definition of hope. This leads to a short detour into a discussion on hope’s connection to the afterlife. Given the hosts' evangelical pasts this is an important elephant in the room to acknowledge before a fuller view of hope can be obtained. The conversation eventually shifts to some of the more crucial elements in obtaining hope. Wonder and gratitude quickly enter the mix as strong foundations for hope. The episode ends with a new segment from the mind of Rajeev. The segment is called Buddy Bingo. Get to know the Irenicast hosts better by learning a few of their ticks and consistencies in personality and most used catch phrases. The process will 100 percent be worth it honey. Conversation on What is Hope? (00:46) Buddy Bingo Segment (46:19) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology! Can creatures actually partner with God? This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground. Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on What is Hope? Jesse Jackson(American political activist, Baptist minister, and politician)Fred Rogers(aka Mr. Rogers)Harvey Milk(American politician)The Book of Joy: Lasting Happiness in a Changing WorldbyDalai Lama,Desmond Tutu, andDouglas Carlton Abrams(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Alfred North Whitehead(English mathematician and philosopher)In Time(2011 film) From Our Buddy Bingo Segment Cold Open: Boyle Bingo Turkey Day Edition - Brooklyn Nine-Nine(YouTube Video) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture...

What is Faith? Bonnie, Jeff, Casey, and Rajeev share perspectives that are found just beyond the edge of clarity - “objects” are visible but there is little certainty about what those objects might be. After all, faith is murky and shifty. As the crew discusses the evolution of their personal faith journeys they confront each other by what is meant by faith and how the misunderstanding and misuse of the term has caused a lot of confusion within, and between, people. The hosts delve into the realities, and tensions, of whether faith is a personal thing, a communal thing, neither, or both. True to the Irenicast way - you may have to decide this for yourself. After a winding and personal conversation on faith, the team finishes off this episode with a round of “Faith Songs.” Brace yourself for some cringes, some “oh yea, that’s my jam,” and “oh, hell to the no.” And - if you are up for it, the hosts would love to hear your definition, understanding, experience, of faith. You can contact them at irenicast.com. Thanks for listening. Conversation on What is Faith (00:52) Playlist Segment (36:56) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology! Can creatures actually partner with God? This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground. Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our What is Faith Conversation James 2:14-26 - New Revised Standard Version(Faith without Works Is Dead) Enneagram Hebrews 11 - New Revised Standard VersionHebrews (Wisdom Commentary Series Book 54)by Mary Ann Beavisand HyeRan Kim-Cragg(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Genesis 32 - New Revised Standard Version(Jacob Wrestles)Inspired: Slaying Giants, Walking on Water, and Loving the Bible Againby Rachel Held Evans(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Playlist Segment You can get the fully crafted playlist on Apple Musicand Spotify. Note that Rajeev’s pick,This is the Year of Losing Thingsby Tom Pradsa-Rao is not available on these music platforms. To hear every song, below are YouTube links for all the songs mentioned in the episode.Rajeev’s Picks Amazing Grace by Aretha Franklin He's Got the Whole World In His Hands by Mahalia Jackson We Are by Jon Batiste The Year of Losing Things by Tom Prasada-RaoHonorable Mention - Faith by George MichaelHonorable Mention - Like a Prayer by MadonnaHonorable Mention - Pray Enough by The Wood BrothersCasey’s Picks Jesus Take the Wheel by Carrie Underwood I Hope You Dance by Lee Ann Womack Ironic by Alanis Morissette Everywhere by Tim McGrawHonorable Mention - Another Day from RentJeff’s Picks Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay by Otis Redding The Day I Tried To Live by SoundGarden Somewhere Only We Know by Keane Cult of Personality by Living ColourHonorable Mention - I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For by U2Bonnie’s Picks Landslide by Fleetwood Mac Unwritten by Natasha Bedingfield Roar by Katie Perry Hold On by Alabama Shakes Bandleader Jon Batiste(Fresh Air Podcast Episode) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at...

In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Six the co-hosts explore the diversity of what community can be: quilting club, birdwatchers, family-groups (biological or chosen), faith community, and so many more. While there is agreement that what a community looks like can vary greatly, the hosts have differing thoughts on the importance of belonging, responsibility, and duty. Ultimately there is a recognition that there is no singular way to integrate past connections, present realities, and future possibilities, when it comes to community - but it is important work to do. In the segment, Two Truths and a Lie, we learn a little about the past lives of the community involvements of each host. In the process we learn who is the best at lying. Spoiler alert, it’s Jeff. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Six (01:18) Two Truths and a Lie Segment (45:28) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology! Can creatures actually partner with God? This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground. Get Your Copy Today! RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Six Rev. Rosemary McCombs Maxey Seventh Day Adventism From Our 2 Truths and a Lie Segment YWAMSacramento Leather CommunityMOPS SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENICAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and...

In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five, the multiverse of self, co hosts, Bonnie, Casey, Jeff, and Rajeev dive into the most uncomfortable and awkward of spaces “the self.” The work and interview with Debbie Glander is referenced to remind us that our formation (childhood, puberty, adolescence) was not a solo project but many, in trusted positions, had major impacts on who we have become. Each co-host still feels the lingering stings of being told we were sinful-to-the-core and the profound difficulty that creates when trying to trust oneself. This results in a reduction of the idea of self and a rejection of self as complex. “It takes a lot of work to become truly oneself.” Bonnie The conversation explores the problems when “trusting self” is claimed in the “alternate facts, anti-vax, crowd;” and the difficulties social media imposes on all people. Facing the “facts” about why we have come to certain conclusions may be the first real step to self discovery. It is essential for many of us to get professional therapy, not the “christian” counselor in the church basement. A necessary developmental ingredient is the “deliciousness of adolescence” that many of us in the evangelical/fundamentalist world were denied. How were the decisions you made shaped? A possible way forward isn’t a hollow reclamation of a rebellious youth but instead a wholly-process-of-grieving and of forgiveness of younger selves. Sometimes, the shadow side should be brought forward in order to disperse the controls in place that force us into gender roles and relational dynamics that serve to uphold the toxicity of “men as the head of everything.” A primary fallacy is that the self is fixed. We are not the sum total of our stories. And while Enneagram is helpful to self discovery, we must not be defined by our number. Self is a process, a moment by moment discovery. The journey should reject “conformity equals unity” and lean into respectful conflict between authentic self-moments in order to get anywhere real. And maybe find things to have gratitude for along the way. And finally, ever wonder what a “train wreck of a segment” sounds like - take a listen. Each host takes a well known and well loved story and shares a synopsis - the other hosts try to guess the title of the work. “Dazed and Uncomprehending” is suggested as the title for a handbook on men. Ya...it’s a mess but an endearing mess. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five (02:08) Title Me This Segment (42:21) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Join Casey’s Enneagram Class starting TOMORROW, October 6th at 7pm PT via ZOOM. This 3-week class is absolutely free, just sign up by emailing Casey at pastor@loomisucc.org. Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology! Can creatures actually partner with God? This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground. Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five The Series So Far…Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183(Part 1 also includes a portion of our interview with Debbie Glander mentioned at the beginning of this episode)Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two – Becoming Less Dangerous – 184Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three – Flying Through the Soup On a Treasure Hunt – 185Beyond the Binary of...

In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part 4 the hosts discuss the voices that helped them reconstruct some semblance of belief… or non-belief. The legend and public persona of Rob Bell unexpectedly becomes the yardstick that each host measures their rebuilding experiences against. Each host shares a ton of resources and voices that helped them in their movement away from fundamentalist authority. Some that became irrelevant and others that still ring true today. The episode finishes with the revival of an old segment formerly known as Jesus or Jay-Z and now rebranded as Friday Night or Sunday Morning. Each host guesses if a set of lyrics is from a ‘christian’ or ‘secular’ musician. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Four (01:26) Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment (44:07) ANNOUNCEMENTS Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology! Can creatures actually partner with God? This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground. Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Four Rob Bell(American author, speaker and former pastor)N.T. Wright(English New Testament scholar, Pauline theologian and Anglican bishop)Walter Brueggemann(American Protestant Old Testament scholar and theologian)Harold Camping(​​American Christian radio broadcaster and evangelist)Bart Ehrman(American New Testament scholar)John Dominic Crossan(Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity, and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of theJesus Seminar) Frontline Series from Jesus to ChristDonald Miller(American author, public speaker, and business owner)Philip Yancey(American author)What’s So Amazing About GracebyPhilip Yancy(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)Anne Lamott(American novelist and non-fiction writer, progressive political activist, public speaker, and writing teacher)Paul Ricœur(French philosopher)John Milbank(English Anglican theologian)Radical orthodoxy(Christian theological and philosophical school of thought which makes use of postmodern philosophy to reject the paradigm of modernity)Renita Weems(Ordained minister, a Hebrew Bible scholar, and author)Gustavo Gutiérrez(Peruvian philosopher, Catholic theologian, and Dominican priest, regarded as one of the founders of Latin American liberation theology)We Drink from Our Own Wells: The Spiritual Journey Of A PeoplebyGustavo Gutierrez(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment Christian Rock Hard(ninth episode of the seventh season and the 105th overall episode of the American animated seriesSouth Park) Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind Touch Me Lord Jesus Medicine Man by Keb’ Mo’ Deconstruction by Justin McRoberts Life Is Sweet by Natalie Merchant Holy by Justin Beiber Jesus, Baby - South Park SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider...

In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three, the Irencast crew try desperately to come up with suitable metaphors for the ‘Dark Night of the Soul’ stage in deconstruction. Since each host had such different experiences the task becomes difficult, which leads to a beautiful discussion on why these moments cannot be boiled down to a formula. We all experience our faith journey differently, and while there are some commonalities, we cannot prescribe a specific way out for any one person. Sometimes we need to sit, listen and just experience certain moments in life. This conversation is emblematic of that truth. The episode ends with the return of an old segment, formerly known as Jesus or Jay-Z. Rebranded as Friday Night or Sunday Morning. Each host shares some song lyrics that could be taken as either ‘Christian’ or ‘secular’. The other hosts decide where they stand and per usual the segment degrades into some good old fashion banter. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three (02:16) Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment (43:03) ANNOUNCEMENTS Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology! Can creatures actually partner with God? This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground. Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff. Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT. Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three St John of the Cross(Spanish Catholic priest, mystic, and a Carmelite friar of converso origin)Dark Night of the Soul(Poem by St John of the Cross)Smallville(CW Television Show)Hook(1991 Film)Healing Through the Dark Emotions: The Wisdom of Grief, Fear, and DespairbyMiriam Greenspan(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment DC Talk(Christian Rap/Rock Group)Audio Adrenaline(Christian Rock Group)The O.C. Supertones(Christian Ska Band) Uh, Did a Former Member of Audio Adrenaline Threaten a Doctor Because He Called for Mask Mandates?(Article)Michael W. Smith(Contemporary Christian Singer)Bad Motorfinger(1991SoundgardenAlbum) Casey’s Worship Playlist The Young MessiahFive Iron Frenzy(Christian Ska Band)Insyderz(Christian Ska Band)Switchfoot(Christian Rock Band)Third Day(Christian Rock Band) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can...

In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two, the discussion centers around the aftermath of waking up. What do you do with the shame, regret and anger of living in a high control environment? Each host shares their journey through that cloud of emotions. Being gracious with yourself, finding a safe place to express anger and learning to listen are some of the lessons learned by our hosts in their waking up aftermaths. They also explore how those manifestations of waking up can be connected to our place in this world. Race, gender and sexual identities can play a big part in what we feel we are “allowed” to feel or express. Triggers are also talked about as important revelations about our own assumptions. The episode concludes with our Overrated/Underrated segment. The segment leads into a detailed tiered system that Jeff has devised on restaurants. Some lines are drawn in the sand during this segment and we hope that in the end you will stay with us :) Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two (00:59) Overrated/Underrated Segment (32:12) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign up for our email list and get the full interview Bonnie conducted with Debbie Glander, LMFT. To learn more about Intersection and sign up for our next session go to TheIntersections.Space RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183(First Irenicast Episode in This Series)The Velvet Rage: Overcoming the Pain of Growing Up Gay in a Straight Man's World, Second EditionbyAlan Downs(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Overrated/Underrated Our Segment In-N-Out BurgerFive GuysShake ShackDenny’sWaffle HouseZaxby'sDavid Makes Man(OWN TV Show) The Handmaid's Tale(Hulu TV Show)The Mandalorian(Disney+ TV Show)Ted Lasso(Apple TV+ Show)Divine Cinema(Podcast)BrisketTri Tip 'Revenge Travel' Will Be All The Rage Over The Next Few Years SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to...

Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One explores the first movement in someone’s journey toward change, waking up. To lay the groundwork, not only for this episode but the episodes to come in this series, each host shares some of the experiences that put them on the path of deconstruction. Because of the benefit of highsight, insight is given into the difficulty and eventual freedom in the deconstruction process. Toward the end of the main conversation we share a relevant portion of an interview with Debbie Glander, LMFT. Debbie’s insights into the negative effects of many fundamentalists communities is invaluable. The episode closes with a segment called This or That. Once again during the segment Jeff and Rajeev enter into their timeless battle about what makes pizza pizza. Progressivism and Fundamentalism once again do battle on the cheesy field of goodness. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One: Waking Up (01:06) Portion of Interview w/ Debbie Glander, LMFT (30:14) This or That Segment (41:52) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign up for our email list and get the full interview Bonnie conducted with Debbie Glander, LMFT. To learn more about Intersection and sign up for our next session go to TheIntersections.Space RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One: Waking Up Saved(2004 Film)Matrix(1999 Film) Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113(Irenicast Episode)More about Intersections Mr. Burns(Simpsons Character) From Our This or That Segment Every Night is Pizza Night by Kenji Lopez-Alt(Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) MORE ON DEBBIE GLANDER, LMFT Debbie is a licensed marriage and family therapist maintaining a private practice in Davis, California. She has received her undergraduate degree in Social Work at California State University of Sacramento and graduate degree in counseling from The University of San Francisco. Personal commitment to her own growth and transformation has inspired her to specialize in working with individuals and families as a Psychotherapist. Her therapeutic approach is to provide support and feedback to help clients regulate their emotions and express their needs in healthy and adaptive ways. Her practice is dedicated to building a relationship with clients that is based on respect, empathy, professionalism and honesty. Visit Debbie's website for more on her work. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter,...