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Siblings in Zion

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Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormonism, LDS culture, religiosity, atheism, mortality, personal growth & the examined life.

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United States

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Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormonism, LDS culture, religiosity, atheism, mortality, personal growth & the examined life.

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English


Episodes
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It's Feeling a Bit Culty

2/11/2024
Sister Lisa shares her struggles and thoughts on her grad school experience as she prepares to be a therapist, and how her religious past informs her approach and understanding of the system. The siblings read some *fascinating* articles on tithing from the most recent issue of Liahona, and discuss how much they think about this whole Mormonism thing these days and how much they really need to talk about it going forward … --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:49:01

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Marriage Is for Losers | More Sh*t From BYU-I

12/23/2023
Sister Lisa shares more eyebrow-raising notes from her BYU-Idaho classes. Dating, sexuality, gender and marriage roles, revelation, ’NCMO’, suppressing desire, boundaries, bogus statistics, terrible advice & more! — Christopher Columbus episode of Everywhere You Go is Bullsh*t: http://tinyurl.com/ymnp8aw8 http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:58:24

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Sh*t My BYU Professor Said | Temple Marriage Prep

11/12/2023
Sister Lisa shares highlights from her notes taken during several classes at BYU-Idaho, including some real whoppers from ‘Prep for Temple Marriage’ that drive Brother Dan to bewilderment and the both of them to giggles. --- The ExMo Candle Co. - https://exmocandles.com/ --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:58:49

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Do You Want to Sing a Hymn?

7/29/2023
Bonus material from our episode ‘Christian & Atheist Walk Into a Bar’ - Comparing Christian and Mormon hymns, the power of music and art in relation to faith in God, as well as a Christian perspective on Stoicism and the precariousness of interpreting the Bible. Bonus points to those who have seen SLC Punk! - https://youtu.be/6qr-wDh95TM

Duration:00:21:13

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Christian & Atheist Walk Into a Bar

5/21/2023
Dan and Lisa welcome Brother Bryan, a Christian who was previously involved with the Four Square church and now associates with the Church of the Nazarene. Bryan and Dan have had several fruitful discussions around Faith, Atheism, Christian denominations, biblical literalism, similarities and contrasts in their respective religious experiences, and have have found friendship and comradery in them. So, we gave him an open invite to have one of those discussions on the show. We also welcome our mutual friend Brother Armando, a former Christian who told his story on the previous episode ‘Confessions of a Former Shi**y Youth Pastor’. We appreciate Bryan’s willingness to express his faith, his vulnerability in sharing his personal experience, and his willingness to recognize the shortcomings in religious organizations and inappropriate applications of personal beliefs. We hope anyone who cares to comment on our discussion will show the same courtesy and respect we show each other. ‘Instead of coming from the gratitude and the place of - God loves me, and taking that love and sharing that with other people, they beat them over the head with a Bible and say - God hates you! It’s terrible irony. And that breaks my heart more than anything’ — Church_of_the_Nazarene http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:01:39:58

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King Follett Discourse (Abridged)

1/22/2023
For those who have already read or are quite familiar with the 'King Follett Discourse', this episode of our reading and commentary is abridged to contain less of the text read aloud. You can find the complete version previously published ... --- In this episode the siblings read and comment on 'The King Follett Discourse', its theological significance, and its influence on Mormonism. In April of 1844, Joseph Smith spoke to a crowd of many thousands (saints and detractors alike) and delivered what would be the most directly recorded public address of his life, and the last such address he would give before his death in June. The sermon is also one of the most consequential and controversial in regards to the unique doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as it contains the theology of man’s potential progression to Godhood, the origin of our Heavenly Father as a man and not an otherwise eternal entity, the council of Gods that planned this world and its salvation, the physical stature of those in the afterlife who died as children, and the eternal nature of matter and intelligence. However, despite its significance and pedigree of record, it has never been canonized by the church and it seems many members are unaware of the event or the origin of these themes … In this episode, we read the amalgamated text published by BYU Studies in its entirety and commentate throughout. The King Follett Sermon (BYU Studies) - https://bit.ly/3H6VlYZ LDS Church History Topics essay - https://bit.ly/3H4HPoG 1960s pamphlet version - B001L3RLPW --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:44:35

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The King Follett Discourse (Reading & Commentary)

1/15/2023
In this episode the siblings read and comment on 'The King Follett Discourse', its theological significance, and its influence on Mormonism. In April of 1844, Joseph Smith spoke to a crowd of many thousands (saints and detractors alike) and delivered what would be the most directly recorded public address of his life, and the last such address he would give before his death in June. The sermon is also one of the most consequential and controversial in regards to the unique doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as it contains the theology of man’s potential progression to Godhood, the origin of our Heavenly Father as a man and not an otherwise eternal entity, the council of Gods that planned this world and its salvation, the physical stature of those in the afterlife who died as children, and the eternal nature of matter and intelligence. However, despite its significance and pedigree of record, it has never been canonized by the church and it seems many members are unaware of the event or the origin of these themes … In this episode, we read the amalgamated text published by BYU Studies in its entirety and commentate throughout. For those who are already familiar with the sermon, or don’t have the patience to hear the entirety of a mid 19th century ‘prophet’ in fear of losing his power or his life (we can’t blame you), there will be an abridged version published as well. The King Follett Sermon (BYU Studies) - https://bit.ly/3H6VlYZ LDS Church History Topics essay - https://bit.ly/3H4HPoG 1960s pamphlet version - B001L3RLPW --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:01:11:25

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What's Working for You?

9/25/2022
The siblings return to kick off Season 5! No plan, just going for it. They talk about what is 'working for them', current events in Mormon world, 'Keep Sweet' and the FLDS, Book Reports!, how they've changed since starting this podcast, and how they will be approaching this season's content and schedule. --- AP article on abuse in the LDS church - https://bit.ly/3dHuQNE LDS donation - https://bit.ly/3SoI8gP Columbia MTC closing - https://bit.ly/3BzIA5b The Hero with a Thousand Faces - https://bit.ly/3S5RUVz No Man Knows My History - https://bit.ly/3R3sLcv Rm Brown - https://bit.ly/3DJ7y4P Keep Sweet - https://www.netflix.com/title/81292539 Jon Heder on You Made it Weird! - https://youtu.be/H70ZXdIbC1I Rina Sawayama: This Hell - https://youtu.be/ekauErew4Bs Duncan Sheik: There's No Telling - https://youtu.be/IZL-XeZvv5k Leave a review on Apple Podcasts - https://bit.ly/sizapple Subscribe to SIZ on YouTube - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:40:24

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Mormonism to Mushrooms | A Conversion Story

6/19/2022
In this season’s finale, the siblings welcome special guest Brother Jordan to tell his story of converting to the LDS church at 18, going the Missionary Training Center *twice*, serving a mission in Buenos Aires where he was held at gunpoint multiple times and suffered from ‘Jeep Butt’, attended BYU for a year before finally deciding to stop playing the game, how he eventually befriended Brother Dan, and how they recently reconnected via the influence of ‘caps’! This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube * Seventh-day Adventist episode of Everywhere You Go is Bullsh*t - https://bit.ly/3yd4Z7W --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:01:32:06

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Mormon Mary Poppins & The Mission President

6/5/2022
Sister Lisa concludes the journey of reading from her past as she shares exchanges between herself and the President of the Florida Jacksonville Mission, where she devoted 18 months to proselytize for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Stress, fear of failure, indoctrination, cognitive dissonance, rejection, judgement, repression, and 'love' ... Lisa also has Brother Dan read a ridiculous document entitled 'The Fellowship of the Unashamed'. This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:50:00

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'Dying' in Florida | Mormon Missionary

5/22/2022
Sister Lisa concludes sharing excerpts from the many emails she sent to family and friends each 'Preparation Day' while she served a mission for the LDS church. Training other missionaries, feelings of inadequacy, ‘dying’ a missionary death, explaining the mormon slang term ‘trunky’, and convincing herself that it all was worth it … somehow … This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:39:30

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Letters From a Young Companion | Mormon Missionary

5/8/2022
Sister Lisa shares excerpts from the many emails she sent to family and friends each 'Preparation Day' while she served a mission for the LDS church. Stories of drunk men giving blessings, flat tires, slammed doors, cognitive dissonance, snake bites, and stalking the local Florida population. This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:38:29

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Leave it in Dan! with Latter-Day Lesbian

4/24/2022
In this bonus episode you will hear a special presentation of the Latter-Day Lesbian podcast on which Brother Dan was a guest! LDL is a podcast about an 'Ex-Mormon gay girl trying to figure out her life'. That girl is Shelly and her partner and co-host is Mary, a former evangelical christian. For more than three years Dan has been the audio producer for the show. In episode 108 (January 2021) he joined them to talk about how they ended up working together, his relationship with Mormonism past and present, navigating family relationships, and how he became known to their audience as 'Leave it in Dan'. https://latterdaylesbian.org/ LDL on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Mp9z7l LDL on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3k5K9j1 --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:49:36

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Sister Missionary in Florida

4/10/2022
We return to Sister Lisa's journals as she shares from her time serving a mission in Jacksonville, Florida for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Many companions, many breakdowns, many prayers, many letters, many tears. Much indoctrination ... This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:41:26

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We Are All Tomorrow's Food

3/27/2022
In this episode, Brother Dan concludes in sharing his written ‘Shower Thoughts’ beyond Mormonism. This set of musings trend towards mortality, atheism, philosophy, religiosity, logical fallacies, nature, humanism, and the future. ‘Religion really is a further complication on top of something we don’t understand truly, but we as humans have a problem with that. We gotta explain it somehow. And for a lot of people the easiest answer is that there is a God who made me and that I am beholden to. How could you believe in a god that created all that is, love him, and hate ANYTHING he created?’ This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:39:19

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This Is Not the Place

3/13/2022
In this episode, it is Brother Dan’s turn to share his own writings - ‘Shower Thoughts’ you might call them. This set of musings came while studying The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its history and doctrine, and contemplating its validity in the real world as well as its role in his life. ‘I want to study Joseph Smith because I want to know him, and understand how he got away with being ‘Joseph Smith, the prophet’. Because if I am ever around a Joe in my life, I want to know it before he knows me.’ This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:45:02

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Mormon Missionary Training Center

2/27/2022
As we continue in Sister Lisa’s journals, we arrive at the Missionary Training Center in Provo, Utah - where young men and women encounter a kind of ‘indoctrination bootcamp’ before heading out for 1.5-2 years to spread 'the gospel' 24/7. She shares her experience of acquiescing to the control over her life including her communications, reading materials, schedule, talking points, and especially her privacy. This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more - https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:54:40

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The Walls of BYU | Mormon Indoctrination

2/13/2022
Sister Lisa continues her journey through the many journals she kept during her young life as a Mormon. She recalls her time at BYU-Idaho, the insulation it encouraged, her decision to leave and serve a mission for the church, and her first experience with the LDS temple endowment. ‘They have you surrounded on all sides, so you might as well surrender.’ This episode is also entirely on video! It is available on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more : https://bit.ly/sizyoutube --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:49:10

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The Husband List | Mormon Indoctrination

1/30/2022
The first in a series of episodes in which Sister Lisa presents entries from the many journals she kept during her young life, essentially documenting her indoctrination in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Girl’s summer camp, Personal Progress, Seminary, Father’s blessings, and the intervention that convinced her to go to BYU Idaho instead of following her intuition. This episode is the first to be produced entirely on video! It is available on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for more : https://youtu.be/u17uoQu6CN4 --- http://siblingsinzion.com http://facebook.com/siblingsinzion http://instagram.com/siblingsinzion http://twitter.com/siblingsinzion YouTube: https://bit.ly/sizyoutube Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

Duration:00:54:28

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Freaky Geeky Christmas

12/19/2021
Before the next season starts, the siblings present a bonus chat to get things rolling: What they’ve been reading, watching, thinking about … Talking their way through the cognitive reframing of Christmas traditions outside of religion, and a preview what’s ahead in Season 4! --- Alan Watts 'The Book' - https://bit.ly/3GOxQkn Freaks & Geeks - https://bit.ly/3GN5vLe Undeclared - https://bit.ly/3se0zLw Why We Sleep - https://bit.ly/32c04Gx

Duration:00:41:28