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When George W. Bush created the PEPFAR program in 2003, it was celebrated by evangelical leaders and has saved more than 26 million lives in Africa from HIV/AIDS. So why weren’t evangelicals outraged when Donald Trump killed PEPFAR, which has already resulted in over 75,000 deaths since January? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn unpack the arguments for and against PEPFAR, and how evangelical support for “small government” only applies to some programs. Then, Katilyn talks to Sharon Hodde Miller about what the self-esteem movement gets wrong about insecurity, and how we can recover the Christian virtue of service and self-forgetfulness. Also this week, rotten butter ants invade Europe. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Rachel Martin: https://www.patreon.com/posts/133604080/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/133671224/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:22 - Theme Song 3:45 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 4:50 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 5:58 - Stinky Ants in Europe! 11:41 - PEPFAR and Evangelicals 21:00 - Spiritual Formation of Small Government Politics 25:35 - Addressing Anti-PEPFAR arguments 48:55 - Sponsor - Policy Genius - Secure your family’s tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 50:12 - Interview 55:54 - Insecurity and Ministry 1:08:20 - The Emptiness of Self-Esteem 1:14:30 - Transactional Relationships 1:25:14 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Super Ants Invade! https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/super-ants-germany-8wp8n83zm Why Evangelicals Turned Their Back on PEPFAR: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/pepfar-evangelical/683418/ Other Resources: Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

With Phil on vacation, Kaitlyn and Esau join Skye to talk about the Supreme Court’s ruling that public schools must allow students to opt out of gender or sexuality content that may contradict the religious beliefs of their families. At the same time, more Americans say public schools should hire chaplains to offer spiritual guidance to students. With schools increasingly becoming the front line in the culture war, can public education survive? Then, Skye talks to Rachel Martin, the co-creator of NPR’s Wild Card podcast and former host of Morning Edition, about what she’s learned from interviewing artists, actors, and activists about their beliefs. She offers an intriguing glimpse into the spirituality of secular America. Also this week—the internet is full of bad advice about “toxic” relationships. Use Promo Code “Book” to get 20% off your first subscription to Holy Post Plus! Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Rachel Martin: https://www.patreon.com/posts/133035879/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/133029177/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:30 - Theme Song 2:50 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to https://glorify-app.com/en/HOLYPOST to download the app today! 3:55 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 5:02 - LGBTQ Schoolbook Opt-Outs 27:12 - Who’s Toxic? 35:18 - Did We Jettison Forgiveness? 47:16 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 48:35 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 49:45 - Interview 55:00 - Staying Informed without Burnout 59:30 - Rachel’s Spiritual Background 1:13:52 - The Wild Card podcast and Spirituality 1:27:32 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Court’s Ruling on Parents Opting Out of LGBTQ books in Schools: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/us/politics/supreme-court-lgbtq-books.html Majority of Americans Support Chaplains in Schools: https://www.foxnews.com/media/majority-adults-support-religious-chaplains-public-schools-new-report-shows Other Resources: Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Nothing fires up the End Times industry faster than America dropping bombs in the Middle East. After President Trump decided to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities this weekend, YouTube was flooded with convoluted and contradictory videos on the biblical implications of the war. But if this really is a prelude to Christ’s return, as many online end timers claim, why are they stoking panic and fear? Shouldn’t Christians welcome this news? Skye talks to Senator Chris Coons about how his faith informs his politics, why he went to divinity school, and what the Democrats can do to close the “God gap” in politics. Also this week—courts struck down the Louisiana law requiring the 10 Commandments to be posted in every public school classroom, and the real origin of “honky dory.” Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/132203951/edit 0:00 - Show Starts 3:16 - Theme Song 3:40 - Sponsor - Policy Genius - Secure your family’s tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 4:53 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 7:11 - Protesting While in Red States 16:07 - End Times Prophecies and Iran 22:30 - Mark Driscoll and the Manosphere 26:26 - Louisiana and the 10 Commandments 37:44 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 38:52 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 40:02 - Interview 42:36 - US Involvement in the Middle East 50:20 - Divinity School and Public Service 57:37 - The God Gap 1:08:35 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Russell Moore on Why We Shouldn’t Look for End Time Implications: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/06/bible-prophecy-war-iran-apocalypse-russell-moore/?utm_medium=widgetsocial Louisiana Ten Commandments Law: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/us/politics/louisianas-ten-commandments-law-appeals-court-unconstitutional.html?searchResultPosition=17 Vox’s Article on the “New Religious Right” https://www.vox.com/politics/416042/religion-politics-trump-christian-nationalism-liberty-maga Other Resources: Read the Introduction to Skye’s new book and sign up to Holy Post Plus to follow along as the book is written: holypost.com/book Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

It was a wild weekend. Donald Trump presided over a military parade on his birthday while an estimated 5 million Americans protested around the country. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the optics of both events and ask, with America’s divided politics and media silos, is protesting still effective? They also unpack a new article by Abby McCloskey in CT that argues evangelicalism’s focus on a private, personalized faith undermines learning, curiosity, and exercising the mind. Then, theologian and Holy Post Pundit, Michael Bird, is back. He offers an outsider’s perspective on Trump’s military parade, the “No Kings” protests, and why he thinks more Christians should be concerned about the suspension of habeas corpus. Also this week: More ’50s slang and an update on Ed the zebra. Holy Post Plus: Getting Schooled - Ethics of Exile 101: https://www.patreon.com/posts/130879694/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/131691890/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:25 - Theme Song 3:50 - Sponsor - Timeless designs, great fabrics. Perfect swimwear for your kids this summer! Check out Minnow at https://www.shopminnow.com enter SHOPMINNOW15 for 15% off your first order. 4:57 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 6:18 - 50’s Slang 9:44 - Ed the Zebra’s Return! 14:35 - Military Parade 23:48 - What Does Protest Do? 32:05 - The Christian Mind Out of Practice 47:30 - Teaching Essentials of the Faith 50:21 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 51:28- Sponsor - World Relief - Join The Path as a monthly partner with World Relief! https://www.worldrelief.org/stand 52:24 - Interview 59:30 - Polarization of the Military 1:10:05 - Right to Protest 1:19:45 - End Credits Links from News Segment: A Christian Mind Out of Practice by Abby McCloskey: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/06/christian-mind-out-of-practice-mark-noll-discipleship/ Other Resources: Read the Introduction to Skye’s new book and sign up to Holy Post Plus to follow along as the book is written: holypost.com/book Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Protests in Los Angeles against the Trump administration’s immigration policies have turned violent, but will the images of vandalism and attacks on police actually help the President? And Phil asks if there is any way to prevent necessary mass protests from becoming violent. One of the most respected Bible scholars of the last century has passed away. Old Testament professor Walter Bruggemann contrasted the world’s vision of scarcity with God’s kingdom of abundance, but Kaitlyn thinks his understanding of exile is over-applied today. Skye talks with his Holy Post Media colleague, Esau McCaulley, about his vocation as a priest, professor, and podcaster, and his desire to see Christianity applied to both the beauty and brokenness of the culture. Also this week—flying zebras and burning Waymos. Holy Post Plus: My Hill to Die On - Bidets: https://www.patreon.com/posts/my-hill-to-die-130797571 Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/131158009/ 0:00 - Show Starts 4:30 - Theme Song 5:00 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 25% off sitewide for our listeners! Go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com/HOLYPOST 6:05 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 7:20 - Runaway Ed the Zebra! 14:33 - LA Protests, Self-Driving Cars 20:30 - Is Violent Protest Inevitable? 30:38 - Walter Brueggemann’s Passing 34:22 - Kaitlyn’s Disagreement with Brueggemann 43:11 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to https://www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 44:15 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 45:25 - Interview 47:32 - Why Esau’s an Anglican Priest 54:30 - Why Esau’s a Podcaster 1:04:20 - How Does Esau’s Brain Work? 1:12:38 - White Evangelicals Centering 1:19:45 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Pet Zebra Escaped! https://apnews.com/article/runaway-pet-zebra-captured-tennessee-54669b2fc2c1dffb87a09f4081d6c135 Other Resources: Check out The Esau McCaulley Podcast: https://pod.link/1770229436 Read the Introduction to Skye’s new book and sign up to Holy Post Plus to follow along as the book is written: holypost.com/book Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

In the past, debates over worship styles were often marked by generational differences; however, a new article suggests that this is changing. For Gen Z, worship preferences may be dividing along gender lines instead. For younger Christians, is CCM from Venus and liturgy from Mars? Drew Dyck joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the evidence, the implications, and the solution for the worship gender divide. Then, Kaitlyn interviews Patrick Miller about his new book with co-author Keith Simon, “Joyful Outsiders.” He says there are six different ways we can respond to the loss of Christian cultural power, but all of them should be marked with joy rather than fear or anger. Also this week—listeners react to our criticism of “asking Jesus into your heart,” and pigeons on a plane. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/130626611/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/130628699/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:55 - Theme Song 3:18 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 4:25 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 5:36 - Animal News 13:07 - Jesus in Your Heart Response 25:27 - The Gen Z Worship War 36:23 - Low Church to High Church 51:50 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 53:06 - Sponsor - World Relief: The Path - Get your FREE prayer guide: Prayers for Such a Time as This. If you want to go beyond prayer, you can also learn more about joining The Path as a monthly partner with World Relief! https://www.worldrelief.org/holypost 54:15 - Interview 55:55- What Does it Mean to Be Joyful Outsiders? 1:00:20 - Are Christians Always Outsiders? 1:14:20 - Prophets and Hope 1:20:08 - Approaching Joyful Living 1:31:00 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Pigeons on a Plane! https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/delta-flight-erupts-chaos-pigeons-fly-main-cabin-rcna209400 Gen Z Gender Worship War: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/05/gen-z-worship-war-men-women-ccm-liturgy-tradition/ Other Resources: Joyful Outsiders: Six Ways to Live Like Jesus in a Disorienting Culture: https://a.co/d/9ouoDCT Read the Introduction to Skye’s new book and sign up to Holy Post Plus to follow along as the book is written: holypost.com/book Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye respond to questions from the listeners, including whether lay people should go to seminary, how important is attending a church after being hurt by one, and whether Christians should make violent video games. They also venture into theological topics like what pronouns are appropriate for God, what doctrines do we emphasize too much, and why they all think telling kids to “ask Jesus into your heart” is a bad idea. The crew also revisits the topic of Project 2025 and whether they regret their dismissive opinions about it from before the election. Also this week—Skye reveals plans for his new project with Holy Post Media, and one listener's question prompts Kaitlyn to make a big announcement. Holy Post Plus: Hill to Die On (Phil on Swearing): https://www.patreon.com/posts/130018518/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/130022144/ 0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief - Get your FREE prayer guide: Prayers for Such a Time as This. If you want to go beyond prayer, you can also learn more about joining The Path as a monthly partner with World Relief! https://www.worldrelief.org/whatisarefugee 1:09 - Show Starts 2:30 - Theme Song 2:51 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 3:56 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 5:04 - Is Protesting in Rotunda Illegal? 7:04 - Skye’s Next Book? 11:35 - Should Laypeople Go Into Seminary? 16:00 - What Do We Mean “Jesus in My Heart?” 24:00 - Project 2025 32:00 - Clarifying vs Changing Scripture 39:00 - Christians Making Video Games? 49:00 - What Theological Issues Do We Overrate? 55:00 - Church Community 59:33 - Special Question 1:06:01 - End Credits Other Resources: Read the Introduction to Skye’s new book and sign up to Holy Post Plus to follow along as the book is written: holypost.com/book Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Why are more churches rediscovering and reciting the Nicene Creed? And what can the ancient articulation of Christian belief offer the church in these divided times? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the 1700th anniversary of the creed and its place in the modern church. The Bible is critical to our faith, but have we been taught to worship the Bible rather than the God of the Bible? Dave Ripper, the author of “Experiencing Scripture as a Disciple of Jesus,” explains how Dallas Willard engaged the Bible and how it can become a source of transformation, not just information. Also this week: What qualifies as anti-Christian behavior, an update on Afghan and Afrikaner refugees, and scientists discover auras are real. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/129442102/ Bonus Interview with Dave Ripper: https://www.patreon.com/posts/129463513/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:35 - Theme Song 3:55 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 5:15 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 7:45 - Do Mice glow? 19:30 - Shane Claiborne Arrested 25:20 - The Nicene Creed’s Birthday! 31:30 - Why’s the Creed Popular Right Now? 52:12 - Sponsor - Timeless designs, great fabrics. Perfect swimwear for your kids this summer! Check out Minnow at https://www.shopminnow.com enter SHOPMINNOW15 for 15% off your first order. 53:20 - Sponsor - Policy Genius - Secure your family’s tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 54:32 - Interview 56:55 - How Did Ripper First Meet Willard? 1:03:50 - Jesus is a Genius 1:10:20 - Sin Management 1:22:50 - Memorizing Scripture 1:29:38 - End Credits Links from News Segment: People Glow Til They Die! https://nationalpost.com/news/calgary-researchers-discover-that-life-has-a-literal-glow Shane Claiborne Arrested! https://religionnews.com/2025/05/05/shane-claiborne-four-other-faith-activists-arrested-while-prayerfully-protesting-gop-budget-bill/ Popularity of the Nicene Creed https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/05/nicene-creed-anniversary-conference-ancient-christianity-trinity-theology/ Fox News and Christian Refugees https://www.foxnews.com/politics/afghan-christian-pastor-pleads-trump-warns-taliban-revenge-after-admin-revokes-refugee-protections?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user%2FFoxNews Other Resources: Experiencing Scripture as a Disciple of Jesus: Reading the Bible like Dallas Willard by Dave Ripper: https://a.co/d/8oWLI3i Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

We have a pope and he’s American! Cardinal Robert Prevost from Chicago is now Pope Leo XIV, and his connection to The Holy Post is closer than anyone imagined. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss reactions to the new Pope and the significance of his name. Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss the evolution of the Q Conference, led by Gabe and Rebekah Lyons. Why has an event that started almost 20 years ago with a positive vision of Christian cultural engagement for the common good now shifted to embrace the culture war? And what does it reveal about larger changes within American evangelicalism? Also this week—The Trump administration is accepting refugees into the U.S. again (as long as they are white), the Quakers are on the move, caterpillar flair, and baby girl Bible names. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/128874502/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:25 - Theme Song 3:45 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:50 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 6:40 - Bone Collector Caterpillar 12:10 - What Did Tariffs Do? 22:50 - Quakers are on the Move! 27:17 - Chicago Pope! 45:47 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 46:56 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 30% off sitewide for our listeners when you use promocode HOLYPOST! Go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com/HOLYPOST 48:00 - Interview 52:40 - What is the Q Conference? 1:02:44 - How Has the Q Conference Shifted? 1:12:18 - Ethics vs Pragmatism 1:21:23 - Responding to the Change in Evangelicalism 1:32:55 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Bone Collector Caterpillar! https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carnivorous-bone-collector-caterpillars-wear-corpses-as-camouflage/ Quakers on the March! https://apnews.com/article/quakers-protest-march-trump-immigration-crackdown-af1ae4a3a608e59f97c96c8b7cf660a2?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/religion Other Resources: What Happened to the Q Conference: https://katelynbeaty.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-q-conference-thinq-media-speakers Quakers March to Protest Trump’s Immigration Crackdown https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/11/quakers-march-protest-trump-immigration-crackdown Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The White House is facing backlash for posting an AI image of Donald Trump as the Pope. Was it a careless joke or a calculated distraction? The most extensive study of its kind finds that the world’s largest Muslim country far outranks the United States in human flourishing, and also explains why secular elites are discovering a new respect for religion. But is there more than a practical purpose behind faith? Historian Beth Allison Barr is back to discuss her latest book, “Becoming the Pastor’s Wife.” She says expectations for ministry spouses aren’t rooted in Scripture but in a reaction to feminism in the late 20th century, and Barr explains how marriage replaced ordination as the way for women to serve the church. Also this week—listener questions, and a whole new look for Holy Post Media. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/128303247/ Bonus Interview with Beth Allison Barr: https://www.patreon.com/posts/127935443/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:40 - Theme Song 3:00 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 4:10 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 15:10 - Comparing two recent interviews: Gillibrand and Kasich 28:10 - Pope Donald? 34:24 - Human Flourishing Study in Indonesia! 54:53 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 56:00 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to https://glorify-app.com/en/HOLYPOST to download the app today! 56:50 - Interview 1:02:24 - Danver’s Statement 1:09:09 - Rooted in America, not Scripture 1:19:19 - Honoring Responsibility 1:32:55 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Religion and Happiness in Indonesia: https://providencemag.com/2025/05/largest-longitudinal-study-of-human-flourishing-ever-shows-religions-importance/ Young People and Unhappiness: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/05/young-people-global-unhappiness/682632/ Tiktok Trend “Jesus Glow:” https://www.salon.com/2025/05/05/tiktoks-jesus-glow-trend-exposes-the-emptiness-of-social-media-religion/ Other Resources: Becoming the Pastor’s Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman’s Path to Ministry by Beth Allison Barr: https://a.co/d/7kDNo1I Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

A slate of new articles analyzes Pope Francis through America’s progressive-conservative polarization, but are they confusing political categories with theological ones? Surprising data show that Gen Z is returning to religion, and belief in an afterlife is on the rise, but what's the explanation? Are young people returning to the church to rebel against their secular parents? Former Ohio Governor John Kasich believes America is on the cusp of a spiritual revival, and his new book, “Heaven Help Us,” explores how religious institutions are leading the way. He talks to Skye about how God used tragedy to awaken his own faith, and why he thinks this present era of greed and cowardice will pass. Also this week—a bunny, a Boeing, and a Bible illustration. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/127757278/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:40 - Theme Song 3:00 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 4:10 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 6:22 - Rare Rabbit Strike! 14:10 - Progressive Christians and the Pope 21:50 - What Even is Progressive Christianity? 32:44 - Is Gen Z Becoming Religious? 51:42 - Sponsor - Timeless designs, great fabrics. Perfect swimwear for your kids this summer! Check out Minnow at https://www.shopminnow.com enter SHOPMINNOW15 for 15% off your first order. 52:50 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://www.meetfabric.com/HOLYPOST 53:50 - Interview 56:15 - Kasich’s Testimony 1:03:15 - Institutions to Help the Individual 1:11:30 - Religious Division 1:22:00 - What Will Kasich Do Next? 1:28:45 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Rabbit in a Jet Engine! https://people.com/rabbit-causes-fire-on-united-airlines-flight-after-animal-is-sucked-into-engine-11716879 The Atlantic Article on Progressive Christianity Post-Pope: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/pope-francis-future-church/682543/?utm_medium=offsite&utm_source=flipboard&utm_campaign=ideas The New York Times Article on Progressive Christianity Post-Pope: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/24/us/pope-christians.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=newyorktimes/magazine/U.S Belief in an Afterlife is Increasing: https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/belief-in-an-afterlife-is-increasing Other Resources: Heaven Help Us: How Faith Communities Inspire Hope, Strengthen Neighborhoods, and Build the Future by John Kasich: https://a.co/d/dKAgkBj Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Pope Francis died on Monday. Will the Catholic Church continue to move in the direction of inclusion and reform, or will it elect a more traditional leader in reaction to the last papacy? Mike Cosper is back to talk about his new podcast from Christianity Today about the Satanic Panic, “Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.” In the 1980s and 90s, the FBI investigated 11,000 reports of satanic ritual abuse, but did not uncover a single credible story. So, why were parents throughout the country worried that heavy metal music, board games, and the Smurfs would lead their kids into devil-worshipping cults? Cosper explains how hucksters leveraged fears over cultural change to create mass hysteria, and why lessons from the Satanic Panic are still relevant today. Also this week, Medieval art reveals the sounds and smells of hell. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Mike Cosper: https://www.patreon.com/posts/127227607/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/127232165/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:50 - Theme Song 4:12 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 5:22 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 12:12 - News of the Butt, Medieval Art Edition 18:46 - Bosch Painting Translated into Music 24:24 - The Legacy of the Pope 32:35 - America vs. The Pope 41:42 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 42:50 - Sponsor - Policy Genius - Secure your family’s tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 42:00 - Interview 46:23 - Why’s the Satanic Panic Relevant? 53:00 - What is the Satanic Panic? 1:01:03 - Hucksters Behind It 1:11:09 - Did People Want it to Be True? 1:28:45 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Reddit Discusses Medieval Face-Butts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Medievalart/comments/rly22w/can_someone_please_explain_why_medieval_artwork/ Bosch Painting Translated to Music https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/periods-genres/renaissance/hieronymus-bosch-painting-naked-bum-music/ Other Resources: Devil and the Deep Blue Sea from Christianity Today: https://pod.link/1778512810 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

It’s Holy Week, and an article in the New York Times argues that Palm Sunday wasn’t a worship procession; it was a protest march. With that theme in mind, Christians held peaceful rallies over the weekend in Philadelphia and San Diego to protest inhumane immigration enforcement policies, including the order allowing government agents into churches during worship gatherings to arrest people. Skye talks to Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) about how her faith informs her politics, what lessons the Democrats have learned from their losses in 2024, and why more religious Americans view her party’s brand as “toxic.” Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn then debrief the interview and discuss whether the Democrats’ struggle is just messaging or something deeper. Also this week: the problem with purple. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/126742149/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:35 - Theme Song 3:55 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 5:15 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 7:15 - Purple Isn't Real? 17:40 - Christians Protesting ICE 25:05 - Was Palm Sunday a Protest? 34:50 - Why’re We Interviewing a Senator? 36:00 - Sponsor - Public Good Generation - One week immersive program for high school students to https://www.ccpubliclife.org/high-school 37:00 - Sponsor - World Relief: The Path - Join a monthly giving community to help people all around the world! Go to https://www.worldrelief.org/stand 38:05 - Interview 43:50 - Is the Republican Party Faith-Driven? 53:05 - Is the Democratic Brand Toxic? 1:10:30 - Debrief 1:16:20 - Trump Administration Holy Week Statement 1:28:45 - End Credits Links from News Segment: World Relief: https://www.worldrelief.com/advocate Purple Isn’t Real! https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a64393667/purple-is-fake/ Faith Groups Protest Ice: https://religionnews.com/2025/04/07/pennsylvania-faith-groups-build-altar-at-ice-office-in-protest-of-immigration-arrests/?utm_medium=social Palm Sunday was a Protest, Not a Procession: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/opinion/palm-sunday-protest.html?searchResultPosition=5 White House Presidential Holy Week Message https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/presidential-message-on-holy-week-2025/ Other Resources: Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Donald Trump launched a global trade war because he thinks America’s trade deficit makes us “losers,” but does he even understand what a trade deficit is? Phil introduces a new segment full of statistics that make Kaitlyn and Skye groan. And they discuss David Brooks’ new article in The Atlantic, which compares this moment in U.S. history to the era of Andrew Jackson, and offers hope for what may come after MAGA. Skye interviews Jonathan Rauch about his new book, “Cross Purposes.” Rauch, an atheist, says his antagonism toward Christianity changed when he came to see how vital it is to American democracy and why evangelicals’ failure to follow Jesus is putting the whole country at risk. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Jonathan Rauch https://www.patreon.com/posts/125941930/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/126225451/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:05 - Theme Song 3:30 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 4:35 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 7:12 - Stock Market Crash! 15:49 - How Idols Steal from Us 20:36 - DEI Removal 27:50 - Nihilism 41:20 - How Do Things Get Better? 48:18 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to https://www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 49:22 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 50:30 - Interview 55:04 - Secularization’s Consequences 1:06:22 - Christianity as an Exilic Religion 1:15:20 - Evangelism as Market-Driven Religion 1:26:52 - End Credits Links from News Segment: David Brooks Article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/05/trumpism-maga-populism-power-pursuit/682116/ Other Resources: Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy by Jonathan Rauch: https://a.co/d/8Zl4bvs Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Disney’s new live-action remake of Snow White has been a disaster with people on all sides of the political divide and culture wars finding something to hate about the film, but could it also be full of important Christian theology? Phil and Skye are joined by Mike Erre to examine the biblical theme of abundance versus scarcity, how it applies to Christians, and why so many evangelicals have accepted a zero-sum vision that is contrary to the kingdom of God. Kaitlyn Schiess interviews Bri Stensrud, director of Women of Welcome, about her journey from being a pro-life advocate to also being pro-immigrant and the false narratives too many Christians believe about this issue. Also this week—Franklin Graham criticizes Donald Trump (for his language), and did the CIA find the Ark of the Covenant in 1988? Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Bri Stensrud: https://www.patreon.com/posts/125693313/ Ad-free Version of this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/125704877/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:30 - Theme Song 3:50 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 5:00 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://www.meetfabric.com/HOLYPOST 8:20 - Declassified CIA Files 17:05 - Foreign Students Status Revoked 21:00 - US vs. Europe on DEI 28:30 - Franklin Graham on Trump’s Language 41:02 - Snow White Movie and Scarcity Mindset 49:15 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 51:35 - Sponsor - World Relief: The Path - Get your FREE prayer guide: Prayers for Such a Time as This. If you want to go beyond prayer, you can also learn more about joining The Path as a monthly partner with World Relief! https://www.worldrelief.org/holypost 52:42- Interview 54:44 - Consistent Pro-Life 59:46 - The Effect of First-Hand Experience 1:09:17 - Misconceptions About Immigration 1:17:54 - Tough Conversations 1:27:14 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Declassified CIA Files on Ark of Covenant: https://www.uniladtech.com/news/declassified-cia-files-ark-covenant-may-be-found-337110-20250328?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/christianity Government Revoked Student Visas: https://www.npr.org/2025/03/28/g-s1-56780/trump-administration-advances-immigration-crackdown-on-foreign-student-protesters Snow White and Abundance Over Scarcity: https://www.ncronline.org/culture/snow-white-paints-vision-abundance-over-scarcity?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/entertainment Other Resources: Start with Welcome: The Journey toward a Confident and Compassionate Immigration Conversation by Bri Stensrud: https://a.co/d/hYNvaEw Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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It’s become popular to compare our current political moment with the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany in the 1930s, but what if the better comparison is Germany in the 1920s? A new article by Paul Miller argues that to avoid the rise of authoritarianism, Christian in the United States should do the hard work now of creating an alternative political narrative rather than the easy work of demonizing one side or the other as “Nazis.” Skye talks to Lee Camp, the creator and host of “No Small Endeavor,” about creating spaces for diverse people to have important conversations and why fear is the barrier to practicing godly hospitality. Also this week—evangelicals aren’t entirely opposed to science. But, just like everyone else, they reject the science that contradicts their politics. Holy Post Plus: An Evening with the Holy Post: Kaitlyn Schiess and Shane Claiborne https://www.patreon.com/posts/124791463/ Ad-free Version of this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/125154482/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:56 - Theme Song 4:15 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 5:25 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to https://glorify-app.com/en/HOLYPOST to download the app today! 7:20 - Politics and Believing Science 21:43 - America’s Weimar Moment 49:15 - The Leader’s Way Podcast - Want to enrich your ministry to bring hope to the world? Listen to Christian thinkers and leaders at https://berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast/holypost 50:05 - Sponsor - Bushnell University - Equip yourself to be transformative in your community! Go to https://www.bushnell.edu 50:55- Interview 57:40 - When Did No Small Endeavor Become so Broad? 1:03:02 - Hospitality vs Fear 1:15:25 - Hospitality Across the Spectrum 1:23:13 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Are Evangelical Clergy Outliers on Science? Yes and No https://religionnews.com/2025/03/20/are-evangelical-clergy-outliers-on-science-yes-and-no/?utm_medium=social A Confessing Church for America’s Weimar Moment: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-faith/christians-confessing-church-america2/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=A%20Confessing%20Church%20for%20America%20s%20Weimar%20Moment&utm_campaign=A%20Confessing%20Church%20for%20America%20s%20Weimar%20Moment Other Resources: No Small Endeavor Tour: https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/events Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

A new slate of Christian movies and television shows is managing to draw both acclaim from critics and the attention of non-believers. Are the days of cringy Christian media finally behind us? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the impact of “The Chosen” and the new Amazon series, “House of David.” What do these shows get right that so many past faith-based projects got wrong? The Oscar-winning documentary, “No Other Land,” cannot find a distributor in the U.S. because critics say it’s antisemitic, but Phil managed to watch it anyway. He offers his take on the movie, why it’s controversial, and how we can distinguish between sinful antisemitism and legitimate criticism of the Israeli government. Then, Kaitlyn interviews Glenn Packiam about his new book about the Nicene Creed, “What’s a Christian Anyway?” Packiam says the creed can be a beautiful lifeline to people caught in the crosswinds of church corruption and cultural confusion. Also this week: Animal news TSA edition. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview: https://www.patreon.com/posts/124207660/ Ad-free Version of this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/124640646/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:00 - Theme Song 3:20 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 4:37 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 8:20 - Sneaking a Turtle Past TSA 13:10 - Non-cringy Christian Shows? 28:45 - Other Land Documentary 41:24 - Anti-Semiticism vs Criticizing Israel 47:50 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://www.meetfabric.com/HOLYPOST 49:00 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 50:00 - Interview 1:22:03 - End Credits Links from News Segment: TSA Finds Turtle in Man’s Pants https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2025/03/11/tsa-stops-man-turtle-concealed-his-groin Other Resources: What’s a Christian, Anyway?: Finding Our Way in an Age of Confusion and Corruption by Glenn Packiam: https://a.co/d/edrJMmB Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

With declining church attendance and shifting values, there’s no denying that our culture’s posture toward Christianity has changed. Some say America is now “post-Christian,” but author Aaron Renn believes it is downright “anti-Christian.” In a recent NY Times profile, Renn explains why he thinks Christianity now occupies a “negative world,” and why the winsome approach of leaders like Tim Keller should be abandoned for more aggressive tactics. Then, Phil talks with legendary musician, songwriter, and producer Charlie Peacock about his new memoir, “Roots in Rhythm: A Life in Music.” Also this week, a leaked memo reveals the real impact of Trump’s foreign aid cuts and immigration policy, and what exhibits would you add to the Museum of Failure? Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview: https://www.patreon.com/posts/124128840/ Ad-free Version of this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/124154267/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:35 - Theme Song 2:00 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit https://worldrelief.org/STAND to join The Path to support vulnerable communities around the world! 3:10 - Sponsor - Bushnell University - Equip yourself to be transformative in your community! Go to https://www.bushnell.edu 5:10 - Museum of Failure 10:35 - Trump Cutting Funding—to the US? 24:30 - Negative World 32:57 - Crotch Christianity? 53:00 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 54:10 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 55:20 - Interview 1:06:00 - Personal Spirituality and the Music Industry 1:14:22 - Death on the Mountaintop 1:31:30 - End Credits Links from News Segment: Museum of Failure: https://abc7news.com/post/museum-failure-look-legal-challenges-surrounding-what-could-san-franciscos-newest-attraction/15955141/ Article on Aaren Renn by Ruth Graham and Madeleine Hordinski: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/06/us/aaron-renn-christianity-conservative-negative-world.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c&pvid=37FBD019-9B01-4CB8-B85C-587FBFCB4794# Other Resources: Roots and Rhythm by Charlie Peacock: A Life in Music: https://a.co/d/2lwSYE2 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

After a made-for-T.V. meltdown in the Oval Office between President Trump and President Zelensky of Ukraine, the administration cut all military aid to Ukraine and sided with Russia instead. Will this cause some evangelicals to rethink their support for Trump, and if so where will they go? Two popular Christian books are saying that empathy is manipulative at best, or downright sinful at worst. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn examine their arguments. Most Christians probably believe that racism is rooted in hate or ignorance, but historian Malcolm Foley says it’s really all about greed. Until we understand the economic origins of racism, he says, the church won’t be equipped to fight it. Also this week—name five things you did last week to justify your existence. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview: https://www.patreon.com/posts/123640386/ Ad-free Version of this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/123640061/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:57 - Theme Song 3:18 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 4:13 - Sponsor - Pique - Pique’s tea is a superfood in a cup! Comes with a frother and glass beaker—get the starter kit at https://piquelife.com/HOLYPOST 5:50 - Five Things to Justify Your Existence 9:24 - Zelensky and Trump 19:26 - Cutting Off Therapeutic Food 26:35 - The Divide of Politics and Personal Ethics 30:20 - The Sin of Empathy 40:35 - Misidentifying the Problem 55:19 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 56:25 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 57:42 - Interview 59:50 - What Links Theology and Finance? 1:03:35 - How Greed Leads to Racism 1:18:00 - Love as a Material Relationship 1:30:52 - End Credits Resources: The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money in the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward by Malcolm Foley: https://a.co/d/cSlX28G Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.