Untangled Faith

About 10 years ago, the news came out that Joshua Duggar had abused two of his sisters. And then just a few years ago, Josh was arrested and convicted of possessing and distributing CSAM. Fast forward to last month. Josh Duggar's younger brother, Joseph, was arrested on suspicion of molestation. The pattern is horrifying. In today's episode, Amy Fritz shares a conversation she had with Ryan George. Ryan escaped the Independant Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church world that's adjacent to the circles the Duggars are in. He shares how he got out and how he had to reckon with reports that his own father was an abuser. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Ryan George Resources mentioned Hurt and Healed by the Church Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

In this conversation, Angela Weszely talks about expanding the abortion conversation beyond life versus choice and why many Christians are feeling uncomfortable with the current discourse. This episode explores some better ways to approach this topic and what we might be missing. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Featured Guest Angela Weszely Resources mentioned Becoming ProGraceAbout the ProGrace organization Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Independent candidate for governor in Tennessee, Lauren Pinkston joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about faith and politics and hope for those who feel politically homeless. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Dr. Lauren Pinkston Website: Lauren Pinkston for Tennessee Governor Lauren's bio: Lauren Pinkston is a wife, mother of four, and seventh-generation Tennessean running for Governor to restore integrity, accountability, and common sense to state government. Rooted in rural Tennessee and shaped by global experience, she has built a career advancing opportunity by supporting human trafficking survivors, strengthening the workforce, and leading mission-driven organizations. Lauren is running to put Tennesseans first by improving education, supporting working families, and ensuring government serves people, not politics. She believes Tennessee's best days are ahead when leaders listen, lead with courage, and deliver real results. Lauren Pinkston for TN Make a Gift Volunteer with the Campaign Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Lydia Kaiser joins Amy Fritz for a conversation on what the Bible says about women. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Bible Truth About Women: What They Don't Tell You Featured Guest Lydia Kaiser Website: https://LydiaKaiser.com Facebook.com/LydiaGraceKaiser/ Email: LydiaKaiserBook@gmail.com Resources mentioned Bible Truth About Women: What They Don't Tell YouDr. Beth Allison Barr Episode Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

In this conversation, Shannan Martin shares her framework of "counterweights" for balancing life's heaviness. This episode explores how balancing the hard things with intentional moments of joy can get us through. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Counterweights: An Essential Practice for Holding Hope in a Heavy World Featured Guest Shannan Martin Resources mentioned Counterweights: An Essential Practice for Holding Hope in a Heavy WorldShannan Martin on InstagramShannan Martin's SubstackShannan's Website Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Join Amy and Kristina as they explore the complexities of immigration, community engagement, and faith in Minnesota. This candid conversation highlights personal stories, systemic issues, and the importance of nuanced dialogue in today's polarized climate. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com We're talking about: Minnesota's Immigration Landscape Navigating Political Conversations The Impact of Community and Group Think The Dangers of Silence in Abusive Situations Power Dynamics and Accountability Current State of ICE in Minnesota Engaging in Difficult Conversations in Faith Communities Featured Guest Kristina Kallman Resources mentioned God's Heart For Minnesota https://youtu.be/O7jisPfjDaY?si=JT0Sn2f8oHNNcpjA 86: (Part 1) Shiny Happy People: The Impact of IBLP and Bill Got… Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Aaron Armstrong joins Amy Fritzfor a candid conversation about immigration. What's the immigration process look like? How can our Christian faith inform how we engage with the topic of immigration? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode Aaron Armstrong shares his story of being an immigrant. Some misconceptions about documented and undocumented individuals and how they impact our communities Featured Guest Aaron Armstrong, Aaron Armstrong: Author, Speaker, Canadian Previous Episode with Aaron: 140: Navigating Awkward Church Transitions and Avoiding Accident… Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

In this conversation, Amy Fritz and Matt Alexander discuss the mission of the Kineo Center, which provides resources and support for pastors experiencing burnout. They explore the complexities of burnout, including its causes and the importance of preventative care. Matt shares personal experiences with burnout and highlights the significance of community support and healthy leadership in ministry. The discussion also touches on the need for sabbaticals and the journey of renewal for pastors, emphasizing the importance of self-care and discernment in leadership roles. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Some topics covered: Introduction to Kineo Center and Its Mission Personal Experiences with Burnout in Ministry The Spectrum of Burnout and Support Needs Causes of Burnout in Ministry Four Key Components of Burnout The Role of Expectations in Burnout Navigating Vocational Disappointment The Importance of Sabbaticals Loneliness and Relational Injuries in Ministry Supporting Pastors: Practical Strategies Authenticity in Healing and Accountability Featured Guest Matt Alexander, Director of Kineo Center Resources mentioned Kineo Center The KINEO Center | Renew the Soul of Your Leadership Today Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

In this conversation, Dr. Alan Godwin discusses his book 'Ties That Blind,' exploring the themes of individual and collective deception, cognitive dissonance, and the importance of attachment and identity in relationships. He shares personal experiences and insights from his practice as a psychologist, emphasizing the need for humility and compassion in understanding the complexities of human behavior and belief systems. The discussion also touches on the role of the church in fostering community and justice, and the challenges of navigating relationships with differing beliefs. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Topics: Introduction to Ties That Blind Understanding Blindness in Relationships The Shift from Individual to Collective Deception The Role of Attachment and Identity Navigating Painful Realizations Cognitive Dissonance Explained The Power of Cognitive Dissonance Five Reasonabilities for Healthy Relationships The Church's Role in Community and Justice Featured Guest Dr. Alan Godwin Resources mentioned The Ties The Blind https://amzn.to/4tswxk4 The Barn https://amzn.to/4a7qwll Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Musician and author, Andrew Osenga, joins Amy to talk about the forgotten pathways to an authentic faith, his work with developing artists, and the Anchor Hymns project. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode, we talk about Amy meeting Andrew Andrew's work in finding and developing new artists Featured Guest Andrew Osenga Resources mentioned How to Remember: Forgotten Pathways to an Authentic Faith https://amzn.to/3MlYNEm Andrew's Substack (2) Andrew Osenga | Substack Anchor Hymns Anchor Hymns Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Melissa Hogan joins Amy Fritz to give an update on the O'Connor v. Lampo Group lawsuit. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Melissa Hogan, (2) Res Ipsa with Melissa J. Hogan | Substack Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling Lawsuit Documents Previous Ramsey episodes Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Therapist and author Tammy Gustafson joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about intimate partner betrayal and healing. Whether you are a survivor of betrayal or want to be a good friend to someone who has walked through this, this is an important episode. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about Featured Guest Tammy Gustafson Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling The Life Saving Divorce https://amzn.to/3YPkn6Z Tammy Gustafson Tammy Gustafson | Betrayal Healing Betrayal healing conference Betrayal Healing Conference | Tammy Gustafson Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Podcast Host, Amy Fritz, reflects on 2025 with lessons learned, articles she's shared, favorite books and musicians, and some things she's thinking about for 2026 Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Resources mentioned Untangled Faith SubstackSuzy Flory, One Year Memoir Get the Hell Out of Dodge Open When You Drop Your Daughter Off At College For the First Time That Time Dave Ramsey Said He Might Possible Owe My Husband an Apology On Celebrations and Landmines and Reminders of the Places we Had to Leave Reckoning With Reports that Someone In Your Community Has Harmed Someone I Was Warned About the World, But Not About ThisJon GuerraSarah Kroger Becca Jordan Michael Tait allegations The Glass HouseThe TellPerversion of JusticeOrdinary TimeRemarkably Bright CreaturesBecoming the Pastor's WifeDinner for VampiresThe Quiet DamageTheo of GoldenPeril Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Journalist and author Scott Latta joins Amy Fritz to discuss Scott's new book, Gods of the Smoke Machine: Power, Pain, and the Rise of Christian Nationalism in the Megachurch, sharing stories of power, accountability, and the changing landscape of American megachurches. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore why megachurches are growing even as overall church attendance in America declines. Examine the evolution from traditional "big box" churches to franchise-style, multi-site megachurch models. Discuss the impact of megachurch growth on small churches, including the cannibalization of congregations and properties. Explore the profound loss experienced by members when megachurch scandals or abusive leaders come to light, and how that pain is multiplied by scale. Hear firsthand stories from those harmed by toxic church systems and why amplifying survivor voices is critical. Unpack the phenomenon of faux accountability and restoration processes for fallen pastors in megachurch networks. Discuss Boz Tchividjian's insights on the legal landscape, the role of financial consequences in church accountability, and why civil litigation is sometimes the only path to justice. Investigate how megachurches cultivate soft political power, their influence on Christian nationalism, and the increasing willingness of pastors to openly engage in politics. Offer practical wisdom for those seeking healthy faith communities, what real accountability looks like, and how to rethink church engagement after disillusionment. Featured Guest Scott Latta Gods of the Smoke Machine | Scott Latta | Substack Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Scott Latta's Substack Gods of the Smoke Machine | Scott Latta | Substack Scott Latta on Bluesky Scott Latta (@scottlatta.bsky.social) — Bluesky Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Author and speaker Mary DeMuth joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about the practice of surrender, what it looks like in the midst of personal trials, and the story behind her newest devotional book, The Freedom of Surrender: 40 Devotions for a Joyful Life in Christ. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Hear the origin story behind Mary’s newest book, including how she combined her writing and original art in a 40-day devotional on surrender. Discuss what it means to surrender reputation, finances, relationships, aging, and even inner cynicism—and how Mary has personally wrestled with these themes. Talk honestly about vulnerability, church hurt, and the ongoing journey of healing from trauma and moral injury. Explore the tension between discernment and cynicism, especially when coming out of abusive faith communities. Share practical encouragement for those feeling isolated or stuck in their faith, and ways we can invite Jesus into our everyday struggles. Reflect on the power of community and honesty in the process of spiritual growth. Featured Guest Mary DeMuth Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Church Hurt Checklist Bookstore - Mary DeMuth The Freedom of Surrender: https://amzn.to/4q8Nn63 Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

This episode contains content that may be difficult for those who have experienced violence or who are sensitive to mentions of abuse or intimate partner violence. Please take care when listening. In 2007, Pastor Neil Schori sat down with a woman who had come to him for marriage counseling. You probably recognize her name: Stacy Peterson. Not long after that conversation, Stacy when missing and still has not been found. Her husband, Drew Peterson, is serving time in prison for being convicted of murdering his previous wife. Pastor Neil joins the Untangled Faith podcast to share his thoughts on the Steven Crowder video, what he wishes he had known about intimate partner violence and what friends and faith community leaders need to know to be safe places for those who may not even know they are in danger. In this episode, we talk about: The multiple facets of abuse go beyond bodily injury. The necessity of pastors to possess the right skills to manage abusive scenarios. Red flags the signal abuse situations. Empowering victims How incorrect theology is harming those being abused. Links: Document the Abuse website: https://documenttheabuse.com Neil Schori on Twitter: https://twitter.com/neilschori Neil Schori coaching: https://www.facebook.com/SchoriCoaching Sign up for Amy's email list and get her weekly podcast updates and monthly newsletter: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/05/11/43-what-weve-gotten-wrong-about-divorce-guest-gretchen-baskerville/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

Hillary McBride joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to unpack spiritual trauma, healing, and how we can create faith communities that avoid replicating unhealthy patterns. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore who McBride’s new book, Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing, is for and how different groups relate to spiritual trauma. Define spiritual abuse and spiritual trauma, and unpack the common misconceptions surrounding these terms. Discuss how curiosity and hope can bridge the gap between those who have and haven’t experienced spiritual trauma. Address the accusation that spiritual trauma is a “fad” and reflect on the history and reality of spiritual harm, especially for marginalized communities. Consider the ethical complexities of sharing stories—both for survivors of spiritual trauma and those hosting podcasts or creating resources. Talk through practical ways new communities and organizations can avoid recreating harmful power dynamics and foster safety and agency. Reflect on the role of conflict, repair, and personal healing in faith spaces and survivor communities. Touch on generational differences in openness to processing and naming spiritual harm and why resources matter for healing. Featured Guest Hillary McBride Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing Hillary L McBride - Therapist, Researcher, Speaker and Writer Hillary L McBride (@hillaryliannamcbride) • Instagram photos and videos Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Chris Staron, host of the Truce podcast joins Amy to talk about the importance of looking at history to make sense of this current moment. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Talk about the origin story of the Truce podcast and Chris’s approach to using history to illuminate today’s faith questions. Discuss the power of curiosity and humility in addressing gaps in our knowledge. Reflect on the importance of surrounding ourselves with experts—and being open to their feedback. Examine how historical context can reshape our assumptions about gender roles, especially in the context of "biblical womanhood." Challenge the idea that “this is the worst it’s ever been” by exploring history’s patterns and precedents. Talk about identifying trustworthy sources—and red flags—in historical writing, including the importance of bibliographies and the dangers of consuming information solely from those who share our theological or political biases. Analyze the work (and controversy) surrounding figures like David Barton and the misinterpretation of America’s Christian roots. Highlight the value of reading outside our usual bubbles and expanding our knowledge beyond World War II or familiar American history. Encourage listeners to approach new information, especially history, with a willingness to be challenged and changed. Featured Guest Chris Staron www.trucepodcast.comhttps://x.com/trucepodcast/https://www.facebook.com/trucepodcasthttps://bsky.app/profile/trucepodcast.bsky.socialwww.instagram.com/trucepodcasthttps://www.threads.com/@trucepodcast Resources mentioned Robert Caro’s "The Years of Lyndon Johnson" series Isabel Wilkerson’s The Warmth of Other Suns" Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Amy Fritz shares an update on what's happening with the Amos v. Lampo Group and O'Connor v. Lampo Group lawsuits and a brief summer update. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Resources mentioned Substack Update https://untangledfaith.substack.com/p/finding-my-podcast-rhythm Amos v. Lampo Group filings https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61614266/amos-v-lampo-group-llc-the/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc O'Connor v. Lampo Group filings https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17372107/oconnor-v-the-lampo-group-llc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc You can find more Ramsey Episodes here: https://www.untangledfaithpodcast.com/categories/ramsey-solutions-dave-ramsey/ Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Dr. Camden Morgante joins Amy Fritz to talk about all the awful metaphors and false promises of purity culture, and a better way forward. If you grew up reading Josh Harris and Elisabeth Elliot, you're going to love this one! Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Dr. Camden Morgante https://drcamden.com/press/ Resources mentioned Dr. Camden's site: https://drcamden.com/press/ Dr. Camden's Substack: https://drcamden.substack.com/ Recovering From Purity Culture https://amzn.to/4kQmSPN Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky