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What can sporting success teach us about ordinary life? Simon Mundie sits down each week with an expert to explore the deeper aspects of sport that mean more than the score.

What can sporting success teach us about ordinary life? Simon Mundie sits down each week with an expert to explore the deeper aspects of sport that mean more than the score.
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What can sporting success teach us about ordinary life? Simon Mundie sits down each week with an expert to explore the deeper aspects of sport that mean more than the score.




Episode 8: Ben Ryan: Motivation

What does it take to motivate a team of people? Offer a carrot or wield a stick? One man who has a fair idea is Ben Ryan, the most successful rugby sevens coach in the world. After a successful stint in charge of England, he upped sticks and moved to Fiji where he was initially met with some suspicion, before leading them to a first ever Olympic gold and being hoisted onto the team's shoulders after the medal ceremony. As well as his keys to motivation, Simon and Ben discuss black magic,...


Episode 7: Mike Brearley: Leadership

What makes a good leader? Is it all about inspirational speeches, or a nurturing arm around the shoulder? One man who knows better than most is Mike Brearley, considered by many to be the greatest ever England cricket captain, who kindly invited Simon to his house for this episode of DTMTS. Mike was in charge for England’s legendary comeback against Australia in the 1981 Ashes, and he lays bare the approach that got the best out of Ian Botham. Mike also went on to become a successful...


Episode 6: Rebecca Symes: Identity

Losing your job is hard to stomach, but for athletes it can be particularly tough. More than half of former professional sportspeople have had concerns about their mental or emotional wellbeing since retiring, according to a 2018 BBC survey. This week Simon sits down with sports psychologist Rebecca Symes to explore what makes up someone’s identity or ‘self’, and uncover the reasons why people- and sportspeople in particular- have emotional difficulties when their career finishes. Their...


Episode 5: Dr Sherylle Calder: Vision

Everyone knows the importance of training the body. Some people value training the mind. But how many of us train our eyes? This week Simon sits down with Dr Sherylle Calder, creator of the ‘eye gym’ and the world’s top visual skills coach who helped England lift the Rugby World Cup in 2003 and South Africa win it in 2007. She’s now back with England rugby, and has noticed a radical drop in the skills in elite athletes over the last six years, which has coincided with the increased use of...


Episode 4: Clay Routledge: Tribalism

Most people know someone else who exaggerates their support for a football team. David Cameron may be the most famous example after forgetting whether he was meant to be supporting West Ham or Aston Villa, but he's far from alone. So what’s that all about? Simon talks to behavioural scientist, Professor Clay Routledge to explore tribalism, which may well explain why exaggerating an interest in football is actually a rational thing to do. They trace the roots of tribalism back to the...


Episode 3: James Kerr: Legacy

Better people make better All Blacks. This is the mantra that underpins the statistically most successful sporting team in human history. New Zealand have always been the gold standard when it comes to rugby, but in the early 2000s they also had a reputation for bottling the big moments. That prompted a radical overhaul of their values, which led to a stunning run of success that included back to back World Cup wins. Simon sits down with best selling author James Kerr, who spent 5 weeks...


Episode 2: Ian Price: Resilience

As you may have noticed, life isn’t all sunshine and rainbows. It’s tough at times, but how you deal with setbacks as and when they arise largely dictates how successful you will be. That’s what performance psychologist Ian Price reckons anyway, and Simon sits down with him to uncover how to build a positive mindset, and asks whether resilience is actually more important than talent. This is all scientifically proven stuff from credible fields like sports psychology and neuroscience, and are...


Episode 1: Kelly Holmes: Power of Belief

The placebo effect and Roger Bannister’s 4 minute mile are just two examples of the amazing power of belief. In this episode of DTMTS, Simon Mundie talks to Colonel Dame Kelly Holmes about self-belief, and asks whether it is the single most important factor in success. Kelly was 14 when she decided she was going to be an Olympic champion, and that belief never wavered. She eventually won double gold in Athens 20 years later. So what did she learn about the power of belief during that epic...


Don't Tell Me The Score

Simon Mundie finds out what sport can teach us about life.