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That's What She Said with Sarah Spain


Sarah Spain profiles guests from the world of sports, comedy, music and beyond to share the stories of their lives and their journeys to success.

Sarah Spain profiles guests from the world of sports, comedy, music and beyond to share the stories of their lives and their journeys to success.


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Sarah Spain profiles guests from the world of sports, comedy, music and beyond to share the stories of their lives and their journeys to success.




354: Dr. Kate Ackerman

Sarah talks to Dr. Kate Ackerman about why there is such a dearth of research into women's sports, the new investments and initiatives to change that, why women tear their ACLs more than men, the effects of Dobbs on female athletes and competition, the potential of the Wu Tsai Human Performance Alliance, and how the boat named after her won gold at the World Rowing Championships in Italy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


353: Andrew Maraniss

Sarah talks to NY Times best-selling author Andrew Maraniss about his most recent book Singled Out, which tells the story of Glenn Burke- the first openly gay MLB player who helped bring the Nike brand to baseball, invented the high five, and was beloved in the clubhouse by his teammates, but was run out of baseball by cowardly executives. Sarah also asks Andrew about his path to sports writing, why he writes about the intersectionality of sports and culture, the success of his first book,...


352: Kathryn Bertine

Sarah talks to Kathryn Bertine, a former espnW editor and pro cyclist, about spearheading the movement to bring back a women’s Tour de France, her new book "Stand,” which chronicles the toll the fight for equality has taken on her and her life, and how she has found the strength to carry on through adversity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


351: Mt. Joy's Matt Quinn

Sarah talks to Mt. Joy's Matt Quinn about what it's like to be the front man, the Miami Heat like chemistry of the band, how a trip to Joshua Tree helped shape the tenor of their new album Orange Blood, and the band's relationship with Creed from The Office. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


350: Brianna Madia

Sarah talks to author and social media influencer Brianna Madia, whose new book, nowhere for very long, is a New York Times bestseller. It's about her life as a nomad and explorer, her childhood in Connecticut, how her parents' divorce and her father's absence affected her views on life and place, her time living on a boat, the decision to buy a giant beat-up bright orange van and move out west to live in the canyons of Utah with her husband, their dogs, their adventures, their struggles and...


349: Lucia Aniello

Sarah talks to Emmy winning writer and director Lucia Aniello about the thrilling success of Hacks, meeting her future husband and creative partner at Upright Citizens Brigade, a pivotal arrest, cutting her teeth on Broad City, and how she managed to squeeze in a wedding, the Emmys and a new baby while making Season 2 of Hacks, which is out now on HBO Max. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


348: Abby Wambach

Sarah talks to soccer legend turned Angel City FC owner Abby Wambach about growing up in a big family, reflecting on big decisions she made during her soccer career, the great perspective she has on the past, the future of women's sports, how we can unlearn societal conditioning, Title IX, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


347: 37 Words

Sarah talks to Dawn Porter and Nicole Newnham, co-directors of 37 Words, a four-part documentary that tells the inspiring story of Title IX- the hard fought battle to push for equal rights in education and athletics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


346: Title IX Compliance

Sarah talks to Duke AD Nina King about the three prongs by which a school can remain compliant with Title IX and the difficulties in meeting those requirements, Then she talks to sports historian and professor Victoria Jackson about the many ways schools cook the books, why Title IX was so important for education and sports, and what a new model for college sports could look like, Finally, Sarah talks to Honest Game co-founder Joyce Anderson about the challenges many high schools face in...


345: Mental Health

Sarah explores mental health in sports by having conversations with three experts. First, NYT best-selling author Kate Fagan, whose book What Made Maddy Run covers mental health and suicide. Then Sarah talks to Jessica Bartley, the Senior Director of Psychological Services for the US Olympic and Paralympic committees, about working with elite athletes and how the Ben Simmons situation can inform conversations about mental wellness. Finally, Sarah talks athlete moms and the "motherhood...


344: Arshay Cooper and Mary Mazzio

Sarah talks to author Arshay Cooper about his book A Most Beautiful Thing, which details his childhood on the west side of Chicago and becoming a member of the first African American high school rowing team in the country. Then Sarah chats with documentarian and former US Olympic rower Mary Mazzio about turning Arshay's story into a film. Plus, an update on the Do Crew. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


343: Quentin Richardson

Sarah talks to former NBA player Quentin Richardson about growing up in Chicago, losing three people close to him while in the 7th grade, going to DePaul, getting drafted by the Clippers, signing with Team Jordan, being engaged to Brandy, getting traded four times in one off-season, the Godfather vibes that Pat Riley gives off, and Knuckleheads, the podcast he co-hosts with former teammate Darius Miles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


342: Shermann Dilla Thomas

Sarah talks to budding Chicago historian Shermann Dilla Thomas who has gained popularity for highlighting the history of Chicago places, events, inventions, and more on his TikTok page (@6figga_dilla). He explains how he originally pitched this idea to his daughter, how his day job at ComEd has gotten him into some places most can't go, where the basis for his deep knowledge about the history of Chicago comes from, and his Netflix pilot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...


Chicago Party Aunt: Chris Witaske

Sarah talks to actor/comedian Chris Witaske about how he turned a Twitter account into a TV show, what it was like working on Curb Your Enthusiasm and Arrested Development, an epic Ditka strip club story, his early roots in comedy, performing magic at birthday parties as a teenager, and his awkward interaction with the comedian he named his dog after. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Amanda Balionis Renner

Sarah talks to CBS' Amanda Balionis Renner about what it's like to interview Tiger Woods, how her two most embarrassing on-air moments happened on the same day with Dustin Johnson and Phil Mickelson, her early interest in broadcasting and her admiration for Bonnie Bernstein, her make or break moment as a sideline reporter for a Princeton football game, her path to becoming "the golf girl", her recent wedding, and her foundation Puppies and Golf. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...


Becky Lynch

Listen to Sarah's interview with WWE super star Becky Lynch from 2019. Becky discusses growing up in Ireland, failing P.E. class, how she got into wrestling, the six year break from wrestling she was forced to take, and why she once cried in a grocery store. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Grand Canyon Adventure

Sarah recaps her Grand Canyon hike by talking with two people who joined her along on the way. First, a fellow hiker named Randall who did not disclose his triad of medical conditions until the journey was in full force. Then their trusty guide Jeremy, who shares stories of scorpion bites, helicopter rescues, and walking on a broken foot for 18 miles. Plus, an update on the do-crew. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


A Different Kind of Dude: River Butcher

Sarah talks to actor, comedian, and podcaster River Butcher about transitioning during the pandemic, legally changing his name, deciding to get top surgery, and the issues facing the trans community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Hall of Famer: George Karl

Sarah talks to former NBA coach George Karl about learning that he'll be inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, who he plans to ask to induct him, what it was like facing Michael Jordan and the Bulls in the NBA Finals, the reaction to his book Furious George, his relationship with Carmelo Anthony, his multiple bouts with cancer, and why he's hopeful that the NBA will return to Seattle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Smooth: CJ McCollum

Sarah talks to Pelicans guard CJ McCollum about the early development of his self-belief, how Lehigh prepared him for his career in the NBA, beating Duke in the NCAA Tournament, going to shopping malls across America with Damian Lillard as young players in the league, getting traded to New Orleans this season, his relationship with Zion Williamson, his podcast, his wine label, and his unpaid role as the president of the NBAPA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit