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Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully.

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Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully.

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English


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CIO of Sportradar, Ian Poland: How to manage your cloud spend well, career journey to CIO | Episode 38

6/26/2024
Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, and have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully

Duration:01:09:46

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GitOps: The gaps it has and what can be done about it! | Episode 37

6/12/2024
In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Mark and Lewis join Jon to discuss the challenges of the Gitops model, what's good about it and where it is lacking! Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, and have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully.

Duration:00:44:29

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Open Source: Tesla car takeovers and rogue washing machines with Lewis Marshall and Mark Hughes Open Source: Tesla car takeovers and rogue washing machines | Episode 36

5/30/2024
In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Mark and Lewis join Jon in the unknown of Open Source, Cyber Security and the takeover of cars and rogue washing machines! Is Open source a risk for companies to adopt? What assurances are there around it? And What are we doing collectively to help support the maintenance of open-source projects that don't have enough maintainers? Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, and have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully.

Duration:00:39:43

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Head of Engineering of Moonpig, Richard Pearson: Career Progression, Leadership and Enablement teams | Episode 35

5/15/2024
Richard Pearson joins The Cloud Unplugged podcast to talk discuss his career journey to become Head of Engineering at Moonpig. We take a look at how he began his career, from studying AI to working for an ISP and now heading up Engineering at Moonpig. We also discuss what the engineering function at Moonpig looks like, how the teams are structured and what technologies are being adopted in AWS. Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, and have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully.

Duration:00:58:24

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Product vs. Program, what's the difference and do you really need them? | Episode 34

12/13/2023
Jon and Jay sit down to discuss what a program is, what a product is and what the difference between the two is. Are they company-specific and completely unrelated, or, are they reliant on each other? This light-hearted episode covers the ins and outs of products and programs. Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:34:21

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The importance of consistency in cloud infrastructure: Cloud Landing Zones | Episode 33

11/29/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:27:21

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Rafe Colburn, Depop (owned by Etsy). Pitfalls of measuring engineering productivity | Episode 32

11/15/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:51:54

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Dean Bryen, CTO of Cloud UBS maintaining innovation with new technologies | Episode 31

11/1/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:59:16

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Idriss Selhoum, Marks & Spencer's cloud adoption journey | Episode 30

10/18/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:42:27

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David Heinemeier Hansson, 37 Signals & Ruby on Rails. Rent vs buy: do cloud providers really save companies money? | Episode 29

10/4/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:40:15

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Matthew Skelton, Team Topologies, the complexities of managing team in the modern workplace | Episode 28

9/20/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:51:47

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What is Culture in the Modern Workplace? | Episode 27

9/6/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:31:01

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Viktor Farcic, Upbound. Platform Engineering, Role Evolution and Optimisation | Episode 26

8/23/2023
CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:43:40

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Product Manager vs. Product Owner, is there a difference and do you need one? | Episode 25

8/9/2023
Product management versus delivery management... two distinct but complementary roles within a company, each serving essential purposes. Understanding their significance can shed light on their importance to an organisation. Some may argue that both are essential, while others might contend that product management alone is enough. Let's explore and determine their significance. In this episode of the Cloud Unplugged podcast, Jon Shanks and Jay Keshur share their thoughts on product management and delivery management. They discuss how these roles contribute to efficient product development and when they become crucial, the challenges and importance of having a clear vision for your product, and how to settle the potential conflicts between these roles. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:32:55

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Nicholas Chang & Steve Nicholl, Kainos. Navigating Cloud Adoption | Episode 24

7/27/2023
In this episode of The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, Nicholas Chang, and Steve Nicholl, from Kainos, join Jon to share insights on the challenges of navigating cloud adoption framework, platform engineering, and the significance of collaboration in the industry. They cover keeping up with the rapidly evolving cloud technologies through social networking, choosing the right platform and service for creating applications, and giving autonomy to developers while implementing the necessary guardrails to prevent damage. Nicholas Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-chang-41b83052/ Steve Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-n/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:32:56

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Chris Stura, PwC UK. Platform Engineering & Business Success | Episode 23

7/12/2023
Jon sits down with Chris Stura, Director of Financial Services at PwC. Together, Jon and Chris delve into the realm of cloud computing and software development, highlighting the challenges that businesses in the technology sector face. Gain valuable insights on leveraging technology for business success and the crucial role of integrating technology into effective business strategies. Chris Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-humphreys-80691322/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:47:28

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Colin Humphreys, Syntasso. Anti-Patterns Exposed: Building Platforms the Right Way | Episode 22

6/28/2023
In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Jon sits down with Colin Humphreys, CEO & Co-Founder of Syntasso. The two tackle the confusing jargon prevalent in the cloud industry and its impact on effective communication, they delve into the significance of product management and design as crucial elements of platform engineering, and they relive the challenging times when Dev and Ops used to be separate entities. Haseeb Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/budhani/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:51:10

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Haseeb Budhani, Rafay Systems. Bridging the Gap: Development and Developer Experience | Episode 21

6/14/2023
In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, host Jon is joined by Haseeb Budhani, the Co-founder and CEO of Rafay Systems. Rafay Systems is at the forefront of delivering cloud-native Kubernetes management and operation solutions to corporations and managed services. Jon and Haseeb explore the thought-provoking topic of build vs. buy in the platform engineering world, shedding light on the advantages and challenges associated with this approach. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Haseeb Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/budhani/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:34:11

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Richard Simon, T-Systems. Every Cloud Migration Has a Silver Lining | Episode 20

5/31/2023
Jay is joined by Richard Simon, CTO at T-Systems, a business that drives digital transformation for companies by offering integrated end-to-end IT solutions. Jay and Richard discuss the four stages of cloud migration, how to establish a Cloud Centre of Excellence, what polycloud is, and why you need more than a hammer to build a house. Richard Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-simon-0272768a/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:34:01

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Charles Humble, Container Solutions. Technical Writing in the Cloud Era | Episode 19

5/17/2023
In this episode, Jay is accompanied by Charles Humble, the Editor-in-Chief at Container Solutions, a cloud native consultancy. Having the benefit of being a writer in such a technical field, Charles brings a fascinating perspective to cloud discussion. Together, Jay and Charles discuss working remotely in the cloud space, why some companies fail at cloud adoption, and draw parallels between programming and writing. Finally, they wrapped up their discussion by exploring what part AI shall play in the future of technical writing. Charles Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleshumble/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Check out our three most downloaded episodes: What Makes a Successful Platform Team? with Bryan Ross, Executive Advisor at VMware TanzuCommon Cloud Struggles with your DevOps Team w/ Richard Smith from Codification.ioBorn To Run: All Things Kubernetes Adoption

Duration:00:45:26