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The R&D Tax Credit still exists, and it might be able to help you offset the Section 174 changes. Michele talks to R&D Tax Credit expert Jonathan Cardella of Strike Tax Advisory to learn more. Learn more: What is the R&D Tax Credit?IRS R&D Tax Credit rulesPlease note: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not tax advice. Talk to your tax preparer for advice about your specific situation.

CNBC article: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/software-firms-face-huge-tax-bills-that-threaten-tech-startup-survival.html Politico Morning Tax: https://twitter.com/mjwhansen/status/1648329709774684165

Michele gives another update on the Section 174 effort and chats with Tyler Tringas and Arvid Kahl. Huge thanks to Justin Jackson and Corey Haines for sending out the letter to their newsletters! Subscribe to their newsletters: Corey's newsletter: https://www.corey.co/ Justin's newsletter: https://justinjackson.ca/newsletter

Numbers update on the letter to Congress + crossover with Made with Grit.

An update from Michele on what she and Colleen have been doing for the past few months, and an urgent call to action to sign the Small Software Business Alliance Coalition letter to Congress: https://ssballiance.org/ Tweet thread FAQ on Section 174: https://twitter.com/mjwhansen/status/1640696365637419008

Colleen and Michele talk about their hopes and plans for 2023, and make an announcement about this show. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who became Software Socialites and supported our show! We genuinely appreciate your enthusiasm and support. Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.pageLynn RomichKonbiniArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Michele talked to Christian Genco on December 1 about what he needed to do to launch his new SaaS, TheVideoClipper, with a deadline of having it done before this episode was released. So... did he do it? Follow Christian! https://twitter.com/cgenco Check out TheVideoClipper: https://thevideoclipper.com/ Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.pageLynn RomichKonbiniArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Michele and Colleen reflect on the year. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show <3 Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.pageLynn RomichKonbiniArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Michele shares her takeaways from the book The Culture Map and what it might mean for getting product feedback and building products across countries. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.pageLynn RomichKonbini ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Colleen recaps her learnings from her first TinySeed meetup/MicroConf: Local Austin. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.pageLynn RomichKonbiniArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Colleen is ready to go all-in on Refine... and that means moving on from Simple File Upload. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters New supporters! Lynn RomichKonbini Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.page ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Colleen and her business partner Aaron give an update on Hammerstone (Refine) in this crossover episode. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Lynn RomichKonbiniChris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesFeederloopPascal sharpen.page ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Talking to other entrepreneurs made Michele realize that she hasn't talked about interplay of qualitative *and* qualitative data enough. Michele and Colleen talk about what that means in the context of feature requests and high-touch sales. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters New supporters! FeederloopPascal sharpen.pageLynn RomichKonbini Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabelles ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Colleen's company was accepted to TinySeed, which means she now gets to work on Refine full time. That means she can finally make some hard decisions and push. (Note: Colleen and Michele were actually in the same place last week, so that's why the audio quality is different than normal!) Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Special thanks to our new supporters! FeederloopPascal sharpen.pageChris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabellesArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Michele chats with indie developer Benedicte Raae about getting into public speaking through streaming. Follow Benedicte on Twitter! https://twitter.com/raae Benedicte's website: https://queen.raae.codes/ StreamYard: https://streamyard.com/ A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for entrepreneurs lately! Check them out: Ship SaaS Faster (Simon Bennett + Volkan Kaya): https://shipsaasfaster.com/ Marketing Retro (Adrienne Barnes + Josh Ho): https://marketingretro.substack.com/ The Weekly Build (Marie Ng + Jesse Anderson): https://www.theweeklybuild.com/ This Indie Life (James McKinven + Dagobert Renouf): https://indielife.fm/ The Non-Tech Founders Podcast (Laura Elizabeth and Nathan Powell): https://nontechfounders.transistor.fm/ Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabelles ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Should indie founders take sick leave? Michele and Colleen discuss. A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for entrepreneurs lately! Check them out: Ship SaaS Faster (Simon Bennett + Volkan Kaya): https://shipsaasfaster.com/ Marketing Retro (Adrienne Barnes + Josh Ho): https://marketingretro.substack.com/ The Weekly Build (Marie Ng + Jesse Anderson): https://www.theweeklybuild.com/ This Indie Life (James McKinven + Dagobert Renouf): https://indielife.fm/ The Non-Tech Founders Podcast (Laura Elizabeth and Nathan Powell): https://nontechfounders.transistor.fm/ Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabelles ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Michele continues her chat with Summit founder Matt Wensing about ways indie SaaS founders can think about moats and competitive advantages. This episode: cost advantages, size advantages (big and small), and false moats. Recommended reading on competitive advantages: The Little Book That Builds Wealth A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for entrepreneurs lately! Check them out: Ship SaaS Faster (Simon Bennett + Volkan Kaya): https://shipsaasfaster.com/ Marketing Retro (Adrienne Barnes + Josh Ho): https://marketingretro.substack.com/ The Weekly Build (Marie Ng + Jesse Anderson): https://www.theweeklybuild.com/ This Indie Life (James McKinven + Dagobert Renouf): https://indielife.fm/ The Non-Tech Founders Podcast (Laura Elizabeth and Nathan Powell): https://nontechfounders.transistor.fm/ Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabelles ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Michele chats with Summit founder Matt Wensing about intangible assets, switching costs, and network effects, and how they apply to indie software companies. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy HovercodeRocket GemsJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabelles ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Aaron Francis, Colleen's co-founder, swings by to chat about Refine. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy Memo.fmJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamaticLarabelles ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit

Four things Colleen is super pumped about... and one thing she's not. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris Chipper CI Kevin GriffinMike Gently Used DomainsDave RecutMax OnlineOrNotStefan Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade Bright BitsTupleAlex Hillman The Tiny MBARamy Memo.fmJane and Benedikt UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez SignWellCorey Haines SwipeWellMike Wade Crowd SentryNate Ritter Room StealsAnna Maste Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis Fathom AnalyticsMatthew from Appointment ReminderAndrew Culver Bullet TrainJohn KostorAlex Corso SystemsRichard StunningJosh,the annoyingly pragmatic founderBen Consent KitJohnCredoEditorNinjaCam SloanMichael KoperNusii ProposalsChrisUrlboxCaeli TossletGreg ParkTraitLabAdam Rails AutoscaleLana and AlexRecapsyJoe Masilottirailsdevs.comProud MaMaAnna KradlMoncef Ruby on MacSteveBe InclusiveSimon BennettSnapShooter BackupsJosh SmithKeyhero.ioJesper ChristiansenFormBackendMatthew Wojtowicz WorkCited Chris Jetboost.ioDaryl ShannonDocamatic ArvidKahlJames Sowers from Castaway.fmJessicaMalnikDamian MooreAudio Audit Podcast CheckerEldon NodleStudiosMitchell DavisRecruitKit