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Join us in this episode as we explore how DoraHacks advances the hacker movement. Learn about Dora Factory's innovative public good staking and decentralized funding infrastructures. We also discuss Dora Vota's role in enabling fair and private community governance through Anonymous Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure (aMACI). Additionally, we deep dive into the appchain thesis and how projects benefit from running their own sovereign chains over building on monolithic L1s. Consider staking with Interop Ventures TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:22 DoraHacks Overview 00:10:51 Appchain Thesis 00:20:11 L2s Thesis 00:30:00 Cosmos SDK Evolution 00:37:34 Solana Appchain Thesis 00:45:58 Dora Factory & Dora Vota 00:52:08 MACI & aMACI Voting 01:03:21 DoraHacks Roadmap LINKS DoraHacks Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure Vota: Special Purpose Blockchain for Voting What Will aMACI Unlock? Inevitability of UNIchain GUESTS Eric Zhang on Twitter Brian Breslow on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture on Twitter The Interop on Twitter

Join us as we explore the innovative integration of AI in DeFi with Daniel Machlup from FortyTwo. FortyTwo is building the interface layer for cross-chain DeFi, tackling a critical challenge in the rapidly growing multi-chain ecosystem. The goal is simple, make cross-chain user experience easy for both users and protocols. Tune in to see how AI is reshaping crypto asset management, making it as simple as expressing your intention. Consider staking with Interop Ventures TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:25 Building on Cosmos 00:05:45 Cosmos SDK Advantages 00:08:33 Exploring FortyTwo 00:16:03 Infrastructure Providers 00:17:38 Solver Marketplace 00:38:31 Architecture 00:39:53 Wallet UX Enhancements 00:42:04 Osmosis Smart Accounts 00:44:14 Beta Launch Overview LINKS FortyTwo GUESTS Daniel Machlup on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture on Twitter The Interop on Twitter

Join us as we delve into the complexities of risk management in decentralized finance (DeFi), where Alterscope pioneers with its risk ZK coprocessor and zero-knowledge proof technology to tackle unique challenges such as liquidity and protocol risks. Uncover how Alterscope's advanced tools not only quantify new kinds of risks but also offer a dynamic platform for effectively modeling and managing them, including a detailed look at the crucial data sets used for assessing oracle risks to ensure DeFi's data reliability. Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩 TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:16 Crypto Risk Management 00:10:13 Pricing Web3 Risk 00:13:22 TradiFi vs DeFi Risk Management 00:15:16 Understanding Alterscope 00:21:42 Oracle Risks 00:27:26 Risk Marketplace Participants 00:37:41 Enhancing DeFi Yield Strategies 00:40:53 Restaking 00:46:08 Staking Providers Risks 00:51:06 Impact on Future of DeFi 00:55:30 Product Roadmap LINKS Alterscope GUESTS Marijo on Twitter Benedikt on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Discover Jackal Protocol in this episode as we delve into its decentralized storage solution, enhancing blockchain interoperability and real-time data access through its Cosmos Layer 1 platform. Learn how Jackal ensures data reliability with advanced redundancy and frequent verification, supporting a wide array of Web3 applications. Consider staking with Interop Ventures TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:06:58 Decentralised storage 00:13:45 DePIN is a hot topic 00:16:06 Jackal - how it works 00:25:47 Role of the Cosmos SDK module 00:27:09 EVM Contracts 00:28:37 Jackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP) 00:41:13 Most exciting use cases 00:46:44 Tokenomics & Economics of Perpetual Storage 00:57:51 Interoperability & IBC LINKS Jackal Protocol Jackal Labs Jackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)​ GUESTS Patrick on Twitter Marston on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Electron Labs aggregates zero-knowledge proofs across protocols into a single superproof, which is then verified on Ethereum. Thanks to the use of recursive ZK proofs, this collective approach lowers verification costs to less than 1% of current rates. This is a huge unlock for applications leveraging ZK: Privacy, micro rollups, DA bridges, IBC, and more. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:56 Cost of ZK proof verification 00:07:10 ZK proofs & Rollups 00:14:36 ZK light client 00:16:52 Superproofs 00:22:28 Electron trust assumptions 00:24:14 Electron's Architecture 00:31:27 Challenges 00:34:38 Electron SDK 00:44:00 Interoperability and IBC 00:48:43 Union & Polymer approach 00:52:55 ZK Proof endgame LINKS Electron Labs Electron Labs on Twitter GUESTS Garvit on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture on Twitter The Interop on Twitter

Rollchains introduce new ways to build, maintain and scale Cosmos chains. New and existing Cosmos SDK chains can enable the Rollchains module to post block data to Celestia. Built with POA chains in mind, Rollchains promises to reduce the cost of securing chains while maintaining a high Nakamoto coefficient, potentially transforming the tokenomics of chains that struggle to cover the inflationary cost of maintaining a validator set. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:46 Blockchain gaming 00:05:41 Cosmos design philosophy 00:12:15 Cosmos Alignment 00:17:58 Why build a rollchain 00:25:37 IBC & interoperability 00:30:34 Rollchain Cosmos SDK module 00:37:27 Rollchain DA support 00:39:12 Roll Apps Vs. Rollchains 00:41:41 Working with Ethos 00:47:06 Long-term future of Ethereum 00:48:58 Thoughts on Movement 00:53:18 Polymer and Union 00:54:16 Skip: Unsung Heroes of Cosmos GUESTS Jack on Twitter LINKS Rollchains Strangelove SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Q protocol is a decentralized governance layer for Web3 that allows developers to build organizational constitutions that are enforced by smart contracts and include off-chain avenues for resolving disputes the code can't deal with. Built as a fully EVM-compatible Layer 1 for maximum security, the protocol is live with a full set of infra and applications supporting the ecosystem. It prevents governance exploits and reduces legal and regulatory risks associated with centralized decision making. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:06:52 Governance by code 00:10:44 Practical cases where DAO governance has failed 00:19:30 What is Q and how does it make a difference 00:22:58 Beyond Code is law 00:27:15 The Q Consititution 00:34:41 Stakeholders in the Q blockchain 00:37:21 The role of the token holders 00:40:57 Difference between validators and root nodes 00:45:29 Expert panels and their roles 00:47:58 Q Token holders' competence to vote 00:49:52 The practical steps in this mechanism 00:55:25 Do you need to build your DAO on Q 00:57:16 Integration with Q 00:59:53 Network stakes 01:02:38 The worrying US tax system 01:05:20 Discussion on decentralised AI 01:08:02 DeFi is going nowhere 01:12:47 Learn more about Q GUESTS Nicolas on Twitter LINKS Q Whitepaper SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Informal Systems is a Cosmos contributor that works on the Cosmos Hub, which is the first blockchain in the Interchain. The Cosmos Hub is one of thousands of blockchains that will eventually make up the Cosmos Network. The Hub's primary token is ATOM, but it will support many other tokens in the future. Interchain Security is one of the main services the Cosmos Hub provides. It enables other blockchains to be secured through Proof-of-Stake (PoS) by the ATOM token, which holds one of the largest market capitalizations in the interchain ecosystem. TOPICS 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:02:20 - 5th anniversary of the hub 00:04:13 - Shift in the vision of Cosmos SDK 00:07:59 - The role of a Cosmos Hub Lead 00:12:44 - Business development and its role under Informal Systems 00:19:32 - Shared security on the hub - Interchain Security 00:26:19 - The shift in vision 00:31:20 - The subset problem 00:38:41 - The old way vs the new 00:42:15 - The babylon partnership - additional security 00:48:20 - How the hub competes in the landscape 00:50:21 - Ethos and what they're building 00:53:24 - Cosmos Alignment and how it's perceived 00:55:46 - The end game LINKS Babylon Bitcoin Security Interchain Security: Partial Set Security Comos-Ethereum Converging Atomic composability - IBC Atom Wars SOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter) Sebastien Couture The Interop

Eclipse Fi is a revolutionary hub for interchain token launches, bringing the value back into the hands of early communities. Eclipse Mainnet, launching in Q1 2024, is the fastest Ethereum L2, powered by the SVM. With an architecture that combines the best pieces of the modular stack, developers get all the benefits of dedicated throughput with none of the downsides. Eclipse makes it possible to build applications that can coordinate masses of people and scale with any developer’s needs. TOPICS 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:06:46 - Terra's Collapse 00:10:27 - the next cycle of token launches 00:20:23 - Centralised vs Decentralised platforms 00:22:49 - Implementing KYC & compliance for projects 00:27:15 - The vision for eclipse 00:31:32 - Benefits of launching projects on Eclipse 00:35:16 - Supported launch mechanisms 00:37:47 - Reputation on the user side 00:41:07 - CIBIL 00:43:11 - How zkKYC works 00:47:17 - Liquidity hub 00:54:20 - Why Eclipse was built on Neutron 00:57:29 - Roadmap for Eclipse Fi GUESTS Simon on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter) Sebastien Couture The Interop

Skip Protocol helps sovereign blockchain protocols supercharge their blockspace to improve user experience, enhance interoperability, and enrich network stakeholders. The protocol has recently unveiled Slinky, an “Oracle” aggregator designed for perpetual markets and DeFi as a whole. TOPICS 00:02:10 - Major Developments at Skip 00:04:40 - The slinky announcement 00:14:15 - Use cases for Slinky 00:21:10 - The architecture and how validators are coordinating 00:25:11 - Levana Attack in relation to the architecture 00:27:14 - Pricing and Slashing 00:35:18 - Is there a compromise? 00:38:16 - What vulnerabilities and attacks can Slinky prevent 00:45:15 - The opportunity cost of using Skip 00:48:36 - How it fits in the modular stack 00:53:51 - Slinky:The Rolls Royce of Oracles 00:59:18 - Slinky's origin and potential customers 01:03:02 - Conclusion LINKS GitHub - Skip-mev How Slinky can prevent Oracle Manipulation Attacks Slinky: Twitter Announcement GUESTS Maghnus on Twitter Skip's Website SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

MilkyWay is a liquid staking solution for the Celestia ecosystem, initially starting its deployment and operation on Osmosis. When individuals liquid stake their TIA coins through MilkyWay, they obtain an on-chain representation of their TIA staking position, termed as milkTIA. This allows Celestia token holders to access liquidity for their staked assets, facilitating trading or their utilization as collateral in different DeFi products. TOPICS 00:06:27 - When did the protocol launch? 00:07:43 - Growth and support from the community 00:08:25 - Liquid staking 00:10:09 - What is liquid staking evolving into 00:12:25 - What is Milky Way? 00:14:38 - Where can people use their MilkTIA 00:17:23 - The design 00:26:13 - The agent and how it interacts with the multisig 00:31:59 - Fudding the multisig 00:34:22 - Purpose of the contract 00:38:23 - How the validators are chosen 00:47:56 - Milky Way's position in the liquid staking space 00:51:54 - Endgame for Milky Way in the Celestia ecosystem 00:55:38 - The roadmap LINKS Milky Way AuthZ Delegated Multisig GUESTS JayB on LinkedIn Fabo on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Lava is a modular data network for scaling access to any blockchain. The network can flexibly support any RPC and API. Lava works with rollups and blockchains to consolidate and improve their node infrastructure. Providers are rewarded for their quality of service, so your users can fetch data and send transactions with speed, data integrity and uptime. Lava helps developers build web3-native apps on any chain. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:05:48 Lava's USP 00:10:22 Uber for blockchain data 00:13:39 RPC and Relayers 00:23:26 Lava's paradigm and how it works 00:31:47 How does the matching happen? 00:39:48 Clustering mechanism 00:42:29 Participants in Lava functionality 00:51:55 Modular Stack - Lava's contribution 00:56:10 Light Clients 01:01:04 Road to mainnet LINKS Lava on Twitter GUESTS Omer Mishael on Linkedin ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Movement Labs is a modular framework to build and deploy Move-based infrastructure, applications, and blockchains in any distributed environment. They offer an open network for creators to build and grow. The team is building a suite of products and services that empower non-Move protocols to leverage the power of the Move Programming Language without writing a single lineof Move code. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:58 EVM is going to zero 00:12:33 Overview of Movement 00:16:25 M2: Roll up framework 00:18:27 Decision tree for a developer 00:20:51 Noble and Union Partnership 00:25:41 Fractal module: Backwards Compatibility 00:28:50 Risky Opcodes in Ethereum 00:31:50 Native USDC 00:33:36 How move benefits IBC 00:35:12 Future of Cosmos 00:40:08 Long term compatibility between VMs 00:42:55 Movement Labs: Parthenon Roadmap 00:44:35 Decentralised Share Sequencer 00:47:24 Validators for M1 00:48:30 Token and Air Drop? 00:48:59 Community program 00:51:33 ETF Approval LINKS M2 Announcement Movement + Noble + Union Partnership Movement Roadmap Ethereum Opcodes GUESTS Rushi Manche on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture on Twitter The Interop on Twitter

Levana is a decentralized exchange protocol designed to enable leveraged positions for any asset. Levana enables permission-less, censorship-resistant Capital efficient markets. Levana is the only platform with zero insolvency risk, so your PnL is always safe. Currently market launches and configuration is permissioned, but Levana's goal is to create a permissionless protocol which enables anyone to be able to launch a leveraged market for any asset. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:55 The ETF Approval 00:06:28 Ben Franklin with laser eyes 00:12:30 The token launch 00:24:23 Attack timeline 00:28:30 Details of the attack 00:29:04 Targeted pools 00:34:09 Oracle Exploitation & how it works 00:42:16 Other oracle solutions 00:46:55 Learnings from the attack 00:49:50 Mitigation and relaunch 00:57:42 Thoughts on adding LVN tokens & Staking 01:00:22 Positive outlook for Levana LINKS Initial Security Alert Levana exploit postmortem Delta price attack explained Jacob Gabikian post on p2p storm GUESTS Jonathan on Twitter Levana on Twitter SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture The Interop

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures XION is the first L1 purpose built for mass consumer adoption through its Generalized Abstraction layer. It is a paradigm shift, paving the way for mainstream adoption of Web3 by enabling seamless user experiences for everyday users through protocol-level implementations. It focuses on accounts, signatures, payments, interoperability, devices, and pricing. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:09 Burnt Banksy 00:05:12 Early NFT Projects 00:07:34 Nobody gives a shit about crypto 00:12:06 What is XION 00:13:30 XION in comparison to other protocols 00:15:51 Generalized Abstraction 00:18:37 Integration with other chains 00:21:19 Advantage of integrating with XION 00:23:28 Meta accounts and how it works 00:27:50 Abstraction 2.0 do we need a wallet anymore? 00:30:59 Onboarding legacy accounts 00:38:15 Too much power to Apple and Google 00:40:20 Parameterised Fee Layer 00:47:13 The Mint module 00:54:53 Why XION chose Cosmos LINKS https://linktr.ee/burnt_ XION Whitepaper: https://xion.burnt.com/whitepaper.pdf GUESTS Burnt Banksy: https://x.com/burntbanksy ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop

Binary Builders is a leading group of builders in the Interchain ecosystem providing a range of services with the goal to help build the future of Web3. They serve as the primary maintainer of the Cosmos SDK. Binary Builders authored the Atom Alignment thesis posted to the Cosmos Hub Forum which focuses on AEZ Growth, financial alignment w/ consumer chains, and increasing decentralization of the Hub's voting power. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:05:20 What is Binary Builders? 00:08:54 Interchain Builders Program 00:11:28 Business development in Cosmos 00:16:52 Areas of research 00:21:51 Atom Alignment - 3 modules 00:26:02 Growing Atom & AEZ 00:30:15 KPI's to look for 00:33:41 Details of the treasury 00:39:02 Should all proposals go through governance? 00:45:54 Voting on Telegram - IBC Bot 00:48:01 Drip Module - How it works 00:51:32 Building on Cosmos SDK vs Cosmwasm 00:56:13 The Hub, AEZ & the future 01:00:11 Chain features & Atom as money 01:00:58 The Hub's most valuable attribute 01:02:26 Thoughts on Sunny's take? 01:07:56 Next steps with alignment treasury LINKS Binary Buildershttps://messari.io/report/state-of-cosmos-hub-q3-2023https://forum.cosmos.network/t/discussion-aez-growth-the-atom-alignment-treasury/11467https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/proposals/864https://ibc.bot GUESTS Creators & Guests Noam CohenSebastien Couture

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Osmosis is an Interchain DEX that lets you swap, earn, and build on the leading decentralized Cosmos exchange. Building Interchain-native apps and smart contracts, as well as analyzing assets and liquidity, are all made possible by Osmosis's tools. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:38 The Mars-Neutron merger 00:12:10 Sunny’s take on Mars leaving Osmosis 00:17:01 Competition & stealing liquidity 00:21:33 Osmosis and Umee’s merger 00:23:05 Appchains merging & becoming rollups 00:25:03 Proposal #858 & AEZ 00:33:27 Community’s reaction to the proposal 00:34:40 Atom is money 00:44:46 What’s the vision & the plan? 00:50:18 Views on Atom1 & LSDs 00:57:07 Osmosis 2.0 - CL hooks & smart accounts 01:04:48 Exciting Osmosis applications LINKS Osmosis: https://osmosis.zone Proposal #858: https://wallet.keplr.app/chains/cosmos-hub/proposals/858 GUESTS Sunny on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sunnya97 ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Celestia is a modular data availability (DA) network that securely scales with the number of users, making it easy for anyone to launch their own blockchain without having their own validator set. Celestia recently launched on Mainnet, going from white paper to protocol. Many exciting applications are being built with Celestia and new primitives are being discovered in the realm of Data availability sampling (DAS), Light nodes, DA narratives and more. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:38 Celestia's Launch: white-paper to protocol 00:03:35 Crypto community's reaction to the launch 00:07:39 Will app-chains supplement security with Celestia? 00:11:23 What's the deal with "build whatever"? 00:16:06 Light node meme 00:28:03 The two other nodes that exist in Celestia 00:31:55 Name spaces - what are they? 00:35:49 Ethereum x Celestia - Blobstream 00:41:32 Can Existing L2's leverage this DA? 00:49:49 Future of modular security 00:59:00 The DA narrative with relation to security 01:04:28 Exciting things being built on Celestia 01:10:53 The modular era & sovereign rollups LINKS Celestia: https://celestia.org/ Introducing Blobstream: https://blog.celestia.org/introducing-blobstream/ GUESTS Nick on Twitter: https://twitter.com/nickwh8te/media ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Atom Accelerator DAO (AADAO) is a grant focused DAO for the Cosmos Hub, funded by the Hub. AADAO currently focuses on ecosystem initiatives and public goods with the goal of aligning the ecosystem and driving value for ATOM. AADAO has been around for 9 months and been giving grants for 6 months. AADAO is also actively working towards wrapping the DAO in a legal structure in order to have a cohesive onchain and offchain existence. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:28 Youssef's background 00:05:30 Atom 2.0 whitepaper and lessons learned 00:14:04 What is AADAO? 00:18:41 Mandate and funding of AADAO 00:22:23 AADAO's objectives and accomplishments 00:25:25 AADAO's grants 00:39:19 Research areas of AADAO + outcomes 00:50:05 Prop 848 00:54:40 Is the Cosmos Hub overpaying for security? 01:03:47 Should the ICF be funding AADAO? 01:08:55 Hot take - will ATOM be a top 5 chain? LINKS Website: https://www.atomaccelerator.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ATOMAccelerator 2024 Funding Proposal for AADAO: https://forum.cosmos.network/t/funding-atom-accelerator-dao-for-2024/12249 Atom Accelerator 2023 Impact Report: https://www.atomaccelerator.com/blog/2023-impact-report Grants issued by AADAO: https://www.atomaccelerator.com/grant-issued GUESTS Youssef Amrani, Co-Founder: https://twitter.com/youssef_amrani ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop