The Technology Whisperers - A Technology and Innovation Podcast

This week we talk about the massive data breach over at MediSecure Australia, which after just a few weeks has left the once profitable company in administration. This begs the question - were they always thinking about the security basics? Alistair goes through what those basics are and what you can do to protect your organisation. Get Alistair on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross/ Visit Revolution InfoSec at: https://revolutioninfosec.com

The Technology Whisperers: Season 3, Episode 5 - "Current Events for April 2024" Episode Summary: Join Alistair Ross and Sean Muller in this informative episode as they delve into the latest happenings in the IT space, with a particular focus on cybersecurity and AI. The hosts provide expert insights into recent security breaches, developments in AI, and the implications of new technologies on business and security practices. Key Takeaways: Episode Highlights: Listener Engagement: Listeners are encouraged to share their experiences and thoughts on how current IT developments affect their work or personal security practices. Questions for Sean or suggestions for future topics can be submitted via social media or the podcast's website. Closing Thoughts: As technology continues to evolve rapidly, staying informed about the latest developments and security practices is crucial for everyone, from IT professionals to casual users. Join us next time as we continue to explore the fascinating world of technology, providing clarity and insights into the complex digital landscape. Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ Subscribe and Review: Support the Technology Whisperers by subscribing to our podcast on your favorite podcast app and leaving a review. Share this episode with anyone interested in the intersection of technology and diversity. On Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/the-technology-whisperers-a-technology/id1609516270 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/0Hk3B5ftWt8DQEKZpkTSwA?si=9983d5ad421d4509 Google Play https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL3RoZXRlY2hub2xvZ3l3aGlzcGVyZXJzL2ZlZWQueG1s And remember to demystify the technology world with Sean and Alistair. Subscribe and listen to every episode.

Women in CyberSecurity: The Spicy Brain Episode - Reloaded Hosts: Sean Muller and Alistair Ross Guests: Hilary Walton, Kat Lennox Steele, Sasha Mullins Release Date: Originally aired 12 Sept 2023 Episode Summary In this Reload of our most downloaded episode ever of Technology Whisperers, hosts Sean and Alistair are joined by three remarkable guests: Hilary Walton, Kat Lennox Steele, and Sasha Mullins, for an in-depth discussion on women's unique pathways into the cybersecurity field. Dubbed "The Spicy Brain Episode," this conversation sheds light on the diverse backgrounds, challenges, and triumphs these women have experienced in the tech industry. Key Points Discussed: Memorable Quotes: Connect with Our Guests: Hilary Walton hilarywalton@microsoft.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilswalton/ Kat Lennox-Steele kat.lennoxsteele@defend.co.nz https://www.linkedin.com/in/klennox-steele/ Sasha Mullins sasha.mullins@cybercx.co.nz https://www.linkedin.com/in/sasha-mullins-335325a3/ Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ Subscribe and Review: Support the Technology Whisperers by subscribing to our podcast on your favorite podcast app and leaving a review. Share this episode with anyone interested in the intersection of technology and diversity. On Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/the-technology-whisperers-a-technology/id1609516270 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/0Hk3B5ftWt8DQEKZpkTSwA?si=9983d5ad421d4509 Google Play https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL3RoZXRlY2hub2xvZ3l3aGlzcGVyZXJzL2ZlZWQueG1s And remember to demystify the technology world with Sean and Alistair subscribe and listen to every episode

Episode Summary: In this riveting episode of The Technology Whisperers, hosts Alistair Ross and Sean Muller are joined by David McDonald, a serial entrepreneur, futurist, and expert in Artificial Intelligence. Together, they dive deep into the current state and future potential of AI technologies, debunking myths, exploring opportunities, and addressing some of the most pressing concerns surrounding AI's impact on society and business. Guest Bio: David McDonald: With decades of experience in the tech industry, David has been at the forefront of leading-edge technologies, especially in AI and blockchain. His career includes significant roles such as CEO of Centrality Japan and leading various ventures and startups to success. David is passionate about the transformative power of AI and its application across different sectors. Key Takeaways: The Role of a Futurist: David shares his insights into what it means to be a futurist in today's rapidly evolving technological landscape, emphasising the importance of anticipating technology trends and their practical applications. AI Transforming Businesses: Discussion on how AI is revolutionizing industries, with a focus on its application in enhancing efficiency, creating new opportunities, and the challenges of integrating AI into existing business models. Ethical and Security Concerns: The episode delves into the ethical considerations and security implications of AI, including data privacy, the potential for bias in AI models, and the importance of open-source models for transparency. Future of Work: David and the hosts explore the impact of AI on the job market, discussing the potential for AI to replace certain jobs while also creating new opportunities and industries that we can't yet imagine. The Next Big Thing in AI: Predictions for the near future of AI technology, including the rise of generative AI, code abstraction, and the potential for AI to develop applications on demand for personalized user needs. Episode Highlights: Listener Engagement: Listeners are encouraged to share their thoughts on AI's impact on society and their own industries. Questions for David or suggestions for future topics can be submitted via social media or the podcast's website. Connect with David McDonald: Closing Thoughts: AI is not just shaping the future; it's actively transforming the present. As technology continues to evolve at an unprecedented pace, staying informed and open to change will be crucial for individuals and businesses alike. Join us next time as we continue to demystify the world of technology, one episode at a time. Contact Details for Alistair and Sean: Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ X 'Formerly Twitter': @seangmuller

The Technology Whisperers Podcast Season 3, Episode 2: "SOC(s)/SIEM(s) Demystified" Hosts: Alistair Ross and Sean Muller Release Date: 11 March, 2024 Duration: 58:02 Episode Summary: "The Technology Whisperers," hosted by Sean Muller and Alistair Ross, delves into the intricacies of Security Operations Centers (SOCs) and Security Incident Event Management (SIEM). They begin by clarifying the acronyms SOC and SIEM, discussing their evolution from Network Operations Centers (NOCs) due to the increasing importance of security. They explore the roles and responsibilities within a SOC, emphasising the human element in monitoring, detecting, investigating, and responding to cyber threats. The discussion extends to various SOC models, including in-house, fully managed, and hybrid SOCs, and the challenges of managing a SOC, such as dealing with false positives and negatives, and the importance of well-defined processes. They highlight the significance of integration with business processes and threat intelligence, touching upon the use of SIEM software and the potential of SOAR (Security Orchestration, Automation, and Response) technologies. The conversation also covers vulnerability management, the value of consulting for SOC setup, and the importance of clear communication with the business to secure necessary resources and support. In This Episode: Connect with Us: https://thetechnologywhisperers.podbean.com/thetechnologywhisperers@gmail.com Subscribe and Leave a Review: Your support means the world to us. If you enjoy diving deep into the world of technology with us, please subscribe, leave a review, and share our podcast with your friends and colleagues. Next Episode Preview: Don't miss our next episode where we'll explore technologies and how they can best help your business. Contact Details for Alistair and Sean: Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ X 'Formerly Twitter': @seangmuller

The Technology Whisperers Podcast Season 3, Episode 1: "Welcome Back and Happy New Year!" Hosts: Alistair Ross and Sean Muller Release Date: 26 February, 2024 Duration: 40:31 Episode Summary: Join us as we kick off Season 3 of the Technology Whisperers! In this celebratory return, Alistair and Sean dive into what's in store for the podcast and share their personal anecdotes of diving headfirst into the busy new year. With new insights, exciting topics, and the same passion for demystifying technology, this season promises to be the best one yet. In This Episode: Connect with Us: https://thetechnologywhisperers.podbean.com/ Subscribe and Leave a Review: Your support means the world to us. If you enjoy diving deep into the world of technology with us, please subscribe, leave a review, and share our podcast with your friends and colleagues. Next Episode Preview: Don't miss our next episode where we'll explore SOCs and SIEMs. Contact Details: Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ X 'Formerly Twitter': @seangmuller

This week we get to do a deep dive on one of Alistair's favorite topics with a truly great guest. Join us as we take a look at the challenges and opportunities in risk analysis and how to make sure your business is safe for the future. Agile https://www.agilealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Agile-Risk-Management-Agile-2012.pdf CSF https://www.nist.gov/cyberframework NIST https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/sp/800/30/r1/final https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/sp/800/37/r2/final https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/sp/800/39/final https://www.nist.gov/cyberframework https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/legacy/sp/nistspecialpublication800-39.pdf OWASP https://owasp.org/ https://owasp.org/www-community/Threat_Modeling https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-dileo/ https://www.holloway.com/g/security-for-everyone/preview Security Book written by Laura Bell & Erica Anderson https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauradbell/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-anderson-sputnik/ Anna Lezhikova LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annalezhikova/ List of Anna's talks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annalezhikova/details/publications/ https://www.defend.co.nz/ Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ X 'Formerly Twitter': @seangmuller

Oh the Drama, Is this the next Netflix limited series?. In this special 'early release' episode Alistair and Sean take a look at the last 2 weeks and the significant corporate drama around what may arguably be the biggest tech company in the world right now, OpenAI, and their embattled CEO, Former CEO, again CEO Sam Altman. Hot off the presses a OpenAI press release, made after our recording https://openai.com/blog/sam-altman-returns-as-ceo-openai-has-a-new-initial-board For a breakdown of events witha. timeline and some of the personalities involved: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-26/openai-sam-altman-board-inside-the-chaotic-week/103149570 A deeper dive into the makeup of OpenAI: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/what-is-openai OpenAI: https://openai.com/ ChatGPT: https://openai.com/chatgpt Q* (QStar): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q* NVIDIA: https://www.nvidia.com Microsoft: https://microsoft.com/ai And for those interested a speculative deep dive into what Q* might actually be and why it really matters: https://www.interconnects.ai/p/q-star Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

This week Alistair and Sean start trying to demystify DevSecOps. They pull it apart from the business value perspective and discuss the why and what of it in a way that is easy to relate to. There will be a followup Part 2 where they dive deeper into the how of making DevSecOps work and moving left in the development pipeline. Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

This week Alistair and Sean tackle the big hairy technology Quantum Computing and start the process of demystifying what it is how it works and why we would should care. Links: https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-11-09-IBM-Unveils-400-Qubit-Plus-Quantum-Processor-and-Next-Generation-IBM-Quantum-System-Two https://newsroom.ibm.com/IBM-research?item=32425 https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tswarren_ais-social-responsibility-plot-twist-doing-activity-7124838672121704449-zuBZ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop https://www.spinquanta.com/products - 2Qubit desktop computer Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

This episode Alistair and Sean do something a bit different. We bring Bernard Hickey in to talk about politics and economics and we try and demystify the why of technology under investments in New Zealand. Bernard is an independent speaker and writer about economics & politics. He produces email newsletter + podcast for subscribers via thekaka.substack.com & 5in5withANZ.substack.com and Podcasts weekly via The Spinoff's When the Facts Change. Bernard Hickey Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernard-hickey-44334a14/ https://thekaka.substack.com/ https://5in5withanz.substack.com/ https://thespinoff.co.nz/podcasts/when-the-facts-change Contact Details for Alistair and Sean Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

This episode we dive into the rise of AI, ChatGPT and some of the risks and benefits AI can provide along with the brilliant commentary of Tim Warren. Tim Warren is the CEO and Co-Founder of Ambit, a leading NZ AI software company specialising in GPT Conversational AI for customer service automation. He presents regularly on AI and leadership. With a background in Software and Finance, including roles at Goldman Sachs and JBWere, Tim is also an angel investor with 15+ investments. He's a drummer, music enthusiast, and a dad of twin boys. Ambit https://www.ambit.ai/ ChatGPT https://chat.openai.com/auth/login Open AI https://openai.com/ Contact Details Tim Warren Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tswarren/ Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

This episode we demystify the Alistair's journey into the IT space and how he became a thought leader in security, risk and governance. It is a great story and worth a listen to. Bulletin board documentary https://youtu.be/n0OwGSX2IiQ?si=2moXKTFOHK-f1ubh Al's Geek Lab https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpa_ZxyIl8u1TS3-rS1bTrg Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

The Spicy Brain Episode This episode we welcome 3 wonderful women leading in Cybersecurity and governance. We hear about their journey and what worked and what didn't. Along the way we get to talk about some great different perspectives and how a Spicy Brain can make the work better. If anything resonates with you don't hesitate to reach out to them. Women in CyberSecurity Panel Hilary Walton hilarywalton@microsoft.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilswalton/ Kat Lennox-Steele kat.lennoxsteele@defend.co.nz https://www.linkedin.com/in/klennox-steele/ Sasha Mullins sasha.mullins@cybercx.co.nz https://www.linkedin.com/in/sasha-mullins-335325a3/ Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/

Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ In This Episode we demystify: Security and the recent security events Risk and how risk is measured What exactly is a CISO and a vCISO Why Cloud Knowledge needs to be part of a Pen Testers skillset And our upcoming panel discussion with 3 great women in Security External Links: What is a CISO and what do they do: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/revolutioninfosec_ciso-vciso-activity-7090130958212878336-zqpG?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android Revolution InfoSec Website Link: revolutioninfosec.com The CISO that BORED the BOARD Room Video by Alistair: https://lnkd.in/g2AqtZyc Criminals go full Viking on CloudNordic, wipe all servers and customer data https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/23/ransomware_wipes_cloudnordic/ CyCognito State of External Exposure Management Report https://www.cycognito.com/resources/analyst-report/cycognito-state-of-external-exposure-management-report Referring Episodes Zero Trust Networking https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-wydew-124d0b4 Women in Technology episode with Amanda Watson https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-tg9k5-11c1065

Contact Details Alistair Ross alistair@revolutioninfosec.com Web: https://revolutioninfosec.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolutioninfosec Sean G Muller seangmuller@technologyleader.co.nz Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ Show Notes: 1) OpenAI are being sued. Since the inception of ChatGPT back in November 2021, controversy has never been far away, and smaller legal battles have always been looming, however, at the end of June, A firm in California filed a class-action lawsuit for "stealing" personal data in order to train ChatGPT. What is interesting about this case is that depending upon how well prepared the complainants are, OpenAI may be required to fess up to how they trained their model. The only public information about OpenAI's ChatGPT that we really know is that OpenAI scraped 300 billion words from the Internet. We don't know how they scraped them and where they scraped it from. The complainant states that OpenAI trained its model partially with personal information, some of it from social media accounts, including Twitter and Reddit. The complainant goes on to state that OpenAI did so in secret, without registering as a data broker as was required to do under applicable laws. The most interesting aspect for me is by how much OpenAI are profiting from these sources, or whether they in fact are profiting, OpenAI have oft stated that they do not (yet) turn a profit. Certainly, on paper, OpenAI are worth many billions in unrealised value, and recently Microsoft made a $10B USD stake in them, so that might have turned them into a profit making machine. The fifteen counts in the complaint include privacy violations, negligence in failing to protect personal information, as well as larceny by obtaining large amounts of personal data to train its models by illegal means. The lawsuit has stretched as far as to seek injunctive relief in the form of a temporary freeze on commercial use of OpenAI's products. If granted, this could have vast reaching effects on organisations that currently use OpenAI's model on their own applications or services. Where do you sit on this Sean? It could be argued that the information that is publicly accessible on the Internet is free for anyone to see, including OpenAI, regardless of whether that is ethically responsible, it certainly is 'freely available'. On the other hand, it could be argued that people have a right to be guardians of their own content. If it is to be used in a wholesale manner by another corporation (potentially for profit), then they must seek permission from the original content author. Doing otherwise could be seen as a violation of privacy. 2) Elon Musk launches new AI company called xAI. A team around of 12 engineers. His mission he states to 'Understand the true nature of the Universe'. On the website, it states that more information is coming in the following weeks and months, so I won't expect to see anything like an OpenAI or Bard competitor for the foreseeable future. However, they certainly have the chops to do it, remembering that Musk was one of the original founders of OpenAI. What is interesting is that Musk was also one of the people who recently spoke out about AI as a whole, and took issue with the rapid pace of development (mainly pointed at OpenAI), stating that we should press the pause button on AI development. By launching this startup, it's clear that he's made a u-turn on that decision! The website states that it is a standalone company, unrelated from Tesla and other Musk companies including Twitter (now called X corp), however Musk states that he will work closely with them to make progress towards xAI's mission. From a privacy perspective, will this mean that it could use tweets (including DMs) as a training model for xAI? Obviously this is possibly where OpenAI are in hot water, as per my previous story, so it will be interesting to find out how...

This fortnight we dive deep into demystifying the migration to cloud journey that many of you are going through. Apologies for missing the 1st of July episode and Alistair and Sean are working on the coming episodes so let us know if you have a suggestion or want to be a guest. Your hosts on this intrepid journey to demystify technology can be found across the internet: Alistair Ross LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/alistairjross/ Email: alistair.ross@servian.com YouTube: youtube.com/AlsGeekLab Sean Muller Instagram https://www.instagram.com/seangmuller/ Twitter @seangmuller Facebook https://www.facebook.com/seangmuller LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ Email: sean.muller@servian.com Discord: seangmuller#1887 Clubhouse: @seangmuller

Zero Trust Security Traditionally, our networks have been castle and moat style. We trust everything in our castle, and everything after the moat (or in the moat to a lesser extent, ie the DMZ), is untrusted. This was a decent model when all of our infrastructure was based on our own physical networks, in our own server rooms, running our own software that we had the CDs for. But most of the time we are on the Internet. A lot of software runs in the cloud, either as a service, or connects to the Internet for a lot of its services. Today, we can’t trust the stuff on our network anywhere. Internally, externally, or on a DMZ. Thus a ‘perimiterless’ or zero-trust security model has started to become an often-talked about concept. In this episode Alistair and Sean demystify what "Zero Trust" is, why an executive at an organisation should care and what they should understand about it. In addition, they dive into a little of the technical 'how' to be successful implementing a "Zero Trust" security model. Reference link https://www.nccoe.nist.gov/projects/implementing-zero-trust-architecture Your hosts on this intrepid journey to demystify technology can be found across the internet: Alistair Ross LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/alistairjross/ Email: alistair.ross@servian.com YouTube: youtube.com/AlsGeekLab Sean Muller Instagram https://www.instagram.com/seangmuller/ Twitter @seangmuller Facebook https://www.facebook.com/seangmuller LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ Email: sean.muller@servian.com Discord: seangmuller#1887 Clubhouse: @seangmuller

This Episode the Technology Whisperers welcome back Amanda Watson to try and Demystify what it means to return to work, whether it is from a sabbatical, maternity leave, going back to school or just some downtime. How should you share what you have learned in your time away from work on your CV? What should employers look for in these non-work periods of time and how valuable are they to the health of a business? We try and tackle these and many other challenges in the discussion about returning to work. https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-watson-38b2132/ amanda.watson@servian.com Tech Women Page: https://techwomen.nz/ Tech Women Membership https://techwomen.nz/join-techwomen/ Tech Women Return to Tech page https://techwomen.nz/return-to-tech/

In this episode Alistair and Sean demystify the concepts of Cloud Native development and try and define it in a way that allows business to invest wisely and helps technologists communicate the realities of development Cloud Native. Along the way they debunk several myths and try and bring a little light humour to a topic that will make or break many organisations in the coming years. If you have would like to join either Alistair, Sean or both on a future episode or if you would like to invite either onto a podcast of your own please reach out as both of them are always open to chat about technology. https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairjross/ alistair.ross@servian.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgmuller/ sean.muller@servian.com