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Welcome to Uncanny Valley—an insider look at the people, power, and influence of Silicon Valley—where each week, WIRED’s writers and editors bring you original reporting and analysis about some of the biggest stories in tech. On Tuesdays, The Big...

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Welcome to Uncanny Valley—an insider look at the people, power, and influence of Silicon Valley—where each week, WIRED’s writers and editors bring you original reporting and analysis about some of the biggest stories in tech. On Tuesdays, The Big Interview with WIRED’s Global Editorial Director Katie Drummond in conversation with influential figures in culture, politics, business, science, and beyond for a discussion captured through the WIRED lens. On Thursdays, WIRED writers and editors Zoë Schiffer, Brian Barrett and Leah Feiger add you to the Slack group thread to let you into what they’re hearing from sources in Silicon Valley and D.C, read you into what trends you should be watching for and how WIRED is thinking about it all.

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Artemis II Astronaut Reflects Upon Return

4/17/2026
This week, WIRED's Brian Barrett checked in with Artemis II astronaut Victor Glover to know how he feels now that he's back home — and how he and the rest of the crew experienced some of the mission's key moments. Additional Reading: Artemis II’s Breathtaking View of the Far Side of the Moon | WIREDThe Future of the Artemis Program Is Riding on Reentry | WIREDJoin WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from the newest tech ventures to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:06:28

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Kara Swisher Is Trying To Live Forever

4/16/2026
This week, we’re bringing you an exclusive conversation between WIRED’s Katie Drummond and tech journalist Kara Swisher. Kara is no stranger to fads in the tech space but the longevity industry — the one which promises to optimize health and delay death at all costs — is one that she has seen continuously grow. But what actually works? Is the industry only fueled by billionaire tech bros or is there something more to it? Katie sits down with Kara to find out. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:31:59

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April 14, 2026

4/14/2026
New York Assemblyman Alex Bores is running in a crowded race to replace longtime Democratic Congressman Jerry Nadler. Pro-AI PACs have targeted Bores, a former Palantir employee who spearheaded an AI safety law in New York and who wants to put more guardrails on artificial intelligence. Alex joins Katie to talk about his campaign, and his response to those PACs. The midterm elections may seem far off, but races across the country are already heating up. Here on Big Interview, Katie will be having a series of conversations with candidates who are shaking things up in this election cycle and we are starting in New York. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:40:41

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OpenAI and Musk Fight Again; DOJ Mishandles Voter Data; Artemis II Comes Home

4/9/2026
This week, we discuss why OpenAI and Elon Musk’s legal feud is heating up once again — and happening alongside SpaceX’s IPO filing. We also dive into how a Department of Justice lawyer misled a judge about how they’re handling voter data, and why the Artemis II’s launch captured all of our imaginations. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:31:11

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Can UpScrolled Keep Up With a Surge in Users?

4/7/2026
Last year, Issam Hijazi launched UpScrolled after users decried censorship and shadow-banning on other platforms. When TikTok transferred ownership of its US operations to American investors, UpScrolled's user base soared. Issam joins Kate to talk about his hopes for the new social media platform - and respond to controversy. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:39:59

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Iran Targets U.S. Tech; Polymarket’s Pop-up Flop; Trump's Plans for Midterms

4/2/2026
The team is back this week to discuss how top U.S tech companies are increasingly finding themselves as targets in the ongoing war with Iran. We also get an inside view into how Polymarket’s pop-up bar in D.C went sideways. Plus, we go through the steps that the Trump administration is taking to control the upcoming midterm elections. Articles mentioned in this episode: Iran Threatens to Start Attacking Major US Tech Firms on April 1 | WIREDPolymarket’s Coming-Out Party in Washington Was a Disaster | WIREDThis Is How Trump Is Already Threatening the Midterms | WIREDJoin WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:27:37

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The Myth That AI Will Replace Language Learning

3/31/2026
Luis von Ahn, Duolingo’s co-founder and CEO, joins Katie to discuss why we should still learn languages in the age of AI translation. He also talks about how Duolingo is dealing with falling share prices, and what’s next for the company. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:47:41

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BIG INTV: Chris Hayes on Urgency and Attention

3/24/2026
For the first episode of our second season, Katie sits down with fellow journalist MS Now’s All In Chris Hayes, to talk about covering the news and capturing attention during an all-consuming news cycle. Hayes also talks about his book, The Sirens’ Call: How Attention Became the World’s Most Endangered Resource. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:40:05

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Nvidia’s “Super Bowl of AI”; Tesla Disappoints Fans; Meta’s VR Metaverse Is Over

3/19/2026
This week, Brian and Leah discuss the highlights from Nvidia’s annual developer conference, and why Tesla recently got in trouble with some of its most loyal fans online. Plus, Meta’s decision of shutting down Horizon Worlds VR officially marks the end of the metaverse dream. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:25:01

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Introducing Kill Switch Podcast: Uncovering an AI Journalist

3/17/2026
This week we are bringing you a podcast recommendation. A great tech focused weekly show called Kill Switch, hosted by Dexter Thomas. On this episode Dexter goes down a rabbit hole. When an editor at a local magazine in Toronto received a pitch from a promising new freelancer, he didn’t expect it to spiral into an obsessive investigation. What followed was a deep dive into a web of fake interviews, impossible bylines, and fake reporting. Dexter talks with Nicholas Hune-Brown to trace how he uncovered an AI journalist and what it reveals about journalism today. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:32:53

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Can Anthropic Win Its Lawsuit?; War Memes; AI Comes for VCs Jobs

3/12/2026
This week, the team discusses what’s at stake for Anthropic after the company sued the Department of Defense. They also take a look at the strategy behind the Trump administration sharing action-filled war memes on social media, and share a scoop about how a controversial company is making millions by organizing the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Plus — could AI come for the jobs of venture capitalists? Articles mentioned in this episode: Anthropic Claims Pentagon Feud Could Cost It Billions | WIREDA Trumpworld Events Company Is Raking In Millions in Federal Contracts | WIREDOpenAI and Google Workers File Amicus Brief in Support of Anthropic Against the US Government | WIREDCan AI Kill the Venture Capitalist? | WIREDJoin WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:31:08

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Iran Strikes in the AI Era; Prediction Markets Ethics; Paramount Beats Netflix

3/5/2026
This week, the team dives into why disinformation and the AI industry battles have quickly positioned themselves at the center of the ongoing conflict between the U.S and Iran. They also discuss how prediction markets like Polymarket and Kalshi are increasingly facing insider trading accusations and ethical questions. Also, how did Paramount beat Netflix in its bid for Warner Bros? Plus — Zoë, Brian, and Leah share their predictions for the future. Articles mentioned in this episode: X Is Drowning in Disinformation Following US and Israeli Attack on Iran How Journalists Are Reporting From Iran With No InternetAnthropic Hits Back After US Military Labels It a ‘Supply Chain Risk’ A Former Top Trump Official Is Going After Prediction Markets Everything Larry and David Ellison Will Control If Paramount Buys Warner Bros.Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:33:44

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BIG INTV: Open AI’s Former Safety Lead Calls Out Erotica Claims (Rerun)

3/3/2026
Steven Adler used to lead product safety at OpenAI. When Katie read his recent op-ed asking OpenAI to prove that they have and continue to address safety issues, she knew she wanted to talk to him. This week she sits down with Steven to talk about what AI users should know about their bots. Follow the UnCanny Valley feed for WIRED’s best and brightest as they provide an insider analysis of the overlap between tech and politics, from the influence of Silicon Valley on the Trump administration to how inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots fanned the fire on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:39:53

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Pentagon v. ‘Woke’ Anthropic; Agentic v. Mimetic; Trump v. the State of the Union

2/26/2026
This week, the team dives into the feud that has been brewing between Anthropic and the Pentagon — and what it says about how the government interacts with tech companies. Later, Zoë tells us why figuring out whether you are agentic or mimetic has become the new litmus test in Silicon Valley. Plus, we discuss the key takeaways from the State of the Union address and give a farewell to the TAT-8 undersea cables — the ones that made our modern internet possible. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:31:22

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BIG INTV: Melinda French Gates on Secrets: ‘Live a Truthful Life, Then You Don’t Have Any’ (Re-Run)

2/24/2026
On this week’s episode of The Big Interview podcast, the philanthropist sits down with Katie to offer her insights on billionaire donors, kids on phones, and the importance of women’s healthcare. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:47:11

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AI Researchers Resignations; Bots Hiring Humans; Evie Magazine’s Party

2/19/2026
This week, Zoë dives into why some researchers at top AI companies have been resigning and publicly voicing their concerns around AI safety. Then, Brian tells us about Rent-A-Human — a website where AI agents hire humans to perform real life tasks — and why it has gathered attention and controversy. Finally, Leah shares her experience attending a party for the conservative magazine Evie, and how the culture around it could shape the upcoming election cycle. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:30:30

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ICE’s Secret Expansion Plans; Palantir Employees’ Ethical Concerns; AI Assistants

2/12/2026
This week, Brian, Leah, and Zoë discuss WIRED’s big scoop on ICE’s startling plans to expand to nearly every state in the US. Then, they unpack Alex Karp’s nearly-hour-long non-response to Palantir employees with ethical concerns about collaborating with ICE. Plus, a WIRED writer lets the viral AI assistant OpenClaw run his life for a week to give listeners a peek into what AI agents can and can’t actually do. Articles mentioned in this episode: The Shoes and Brooms Transforming Curling at the 2026 Winter OlympicsI Loved My OpenClaw AI Agent—Until It Turned on MePalantir CEO Alex Karp Recorded a Video About ICE for His EmployeesICE Is Expanding Across the US at Breakneck Speed. Here’s Where It’s Going NextThe ICE Expansion Won’t Happen in the DarkJames Holzhauer's Jeopardy! Greatness, in Charts Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:37:24

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Tech Elites in the Epstein Files; Musk’s Mega Merger; Crypto Scam Compound

2/5/2026
This week, Brian and Leah dive into the key tech industry figures who show up in the final batch of the Epstein Files. Then, they discuss SpaceX and xAI’s blockbuster merger, and what it says about the future of Elon Musk’s companies. Plus, we share the story of how a whistleblower revealed — and fled — the inner operations of crypto scam compound in Laos. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:35:08

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Big Intv: Fallout Director Jonathan Nolan Says He's Still a Techno-Optimist

2/3/2026
Katie sits down with the Westworld showrunner, Jonah Nolan for a wide ranging conversation about what keeps him coming back to sci-fi storytelling about technology and human nature. After decades of writing about Ai, Nolan explains why Ai may be good for burgeoning filmmakers, but won’t replace Hollywood as we know it. Nolan’s past work includes Memento, The Prestige, The Dark Knight, Interstellar and Westworld. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:48:55

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BIG INTV: Silicon Valley Tech Workers’ Campaign to Get ICE Out of US Cities

1/30/2026
In the wake of the shooting of ICU nurse Alex Pretti in the streets of Minneapolis, several prominent tech executives attended a private White House screening of Melania, a documentary being released by Amazon MGM Studios. The timing was not lost on the group of Silicon Valley workers who recently launched ICEout.tech, essentially an open letter to their bosses. The letter, posted following Renee Nicole Good’s killing earlier this month, has now been signed by more than 1,000 tech employees. Those workers, who come from across the spectrum of Big Tech companies and startups, are asking that executives use their clout to demand Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents leave American cities, that they cancel company contracts with the agency, and that they speak publicly about ICE’s violent and deadly tactics. Katie talks to two of the signatories in this week's episode. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Duration:00:31:32