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It’s a lighthearted nightmare in here, weirdos! Morbid is a true crime, creepy history and all things spooky podcast hosted by an autopsy technician and a hairstylist. Join us for a heavy dose of research with a dash of comedy thrown in for flavor.




Episode 463: The Pamela Smart Case (Part 1)

Mention the Pamela Smart case to someone in New Hampshire, and they'll know exactly what you're talking about. The case captivated the nation in the early 90's and at the center of it all, of course, was Pamela. A New Hampshire native, she had big dreams of becoming somebody and making a name for herself. She moved away from her small town and almost did, but in the name of love she moved back home and settled into her career as a School Administrator. It was via that position that she would meet young sophomore in High School, Billy Flynn. Pam groomed the boy, and had him thinking they were fully in love before she asked him a question that would change both of their lives forever: Would he murder her husband? In part one we'll cover the early life of both Pam and her husband, Gregg Smart, we'll break down how Pam and Billy became involved with each other and just how Pam got Billy to believe that murdering her husband was what it would take for them to be together forever. Special thank you to the brilliant David White for research assistance References Baker, Frank. 1990. "Smart to be jailed until trial." Concord Monitor, August 14: 1. —. 1990. "Widow charged as accomplice." Concord Monitor, August 2: 14. Carton, Barbara. 1991. "The Pamela Smart story." Boston Globe, Marcg 21. 1991. NH v. Smart: Opening Statements. Directed by Court TV. Performed by Court TV. Derry News. 1990. "Family and friends puzzle over murder." Derry News, May 4: 1. Englade, Ken. 1991. Deadly Lessons. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press. Gaines, Judith, and Alexander Reid. 1991. "Jurors say tales a key to their decision." Boston Globe, March 23: 1. Hernandez, Monica. 2023. Accomplice in Smart murder asks for sentence reduction. January 10. Accessed May 1, 2023. Hohler, Bob. 1991. "3 guilty in N.H. killing." Boston Globe, January 30: 1. —. 1991. "Confidant was wired by police." Boston Globe, March 15: 21. —. 1991. "Smart is found guilty." Boston Globe, March 23: 1. —. 1991. "Smart pleaded for life, N.H. teen-ager testifies." Boston Globe, March 6: 19. —. 1991. "Tales of seduction." Boston Globe, March 12: 1. —. 1990. "Tape offered at Smart hearing." Boston Globe, August 14. —. 1991. "Witness: Smart asked for tips on reaction." Boston Globe, March 3: 27. —. 1991. "Youth says blood flowed, tears did not." Boston Globe, March 13: 35. Kilgannon, Corey. 2023. "Smart, who plotted with a teen lover to kill her husband, loses a parole bid." New York Times, March 30. Kittredge, Clare. 1991. "A verdict to take to son's grave." Boston Globe, March 23: 1. —. 1991. "Smart trial garners big TV audience." Boston Globe, March 17: 1. Richardson, Franci. 1990. "Mrs. Smart absolutely convinced husband surprised thief." Derry News, May 9: 1. Sawicki, Stephen. 1991. Teach Me to Kill: The Shocking True Story of the Pamela Smart Murder Case. New York, NY: Avon Books. Schweitzer, Sarah. 2015. "5 years later, shooter to go free: William Flynn was 16 when he was lured into murder by Pamela Smart." Boston Globe, March 13: A1. State of New Hampshire v. Pamela Smart. 1993. 622 A.2d 1197 (Supreme Court of New Hampshire, February 26). Wang, Beverley. 2005. "Pamela Smart accomplice released." Concord Monitor, June 15: 10. West, Nancy. 2016. Breaking Silence: Cecelia Pierce Speaks. October 12. Accessed April 24, 2023. West, Nancy, and David Mendelsohn. 2016. Pamela Smart: innocent of (still) guilty. October 13. Accessed April 29, 2023. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 462: Listener Tales 74 with Jon Lee Brody

We've got a listener tale up in here!! This week we are joined by Alaina's #bffAF, the one and only Jon Lee Brody. On today's installment we feature stories of spooky road adventures, badass moms, asshole friends & some demon encounters. Check out That Was Pretty Scary New episodes every Wednesday! If you have a listener tale that you would like to send in please do so and direct it to with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :) See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 461: H.H. Holmes Part 5

In the final chapter of our coverage of H.H.Holmes, we talk about the theories connecting him to Jack the Ripper, his final days on the run and a trial and execution that has gone down in history. Thank you to Dave White for research assistance. References Boston Daily Globe. 1895. "At Burlington." Boston Daily Globe, August 8: 7. —. 1894. "Believes husband dead." Boston Daily Globe, November 20: 1. —. 1894. "Believes husband dead." Boston Daily Globe, November 20: 1. —. 1895. "Hard and Selfish." Boston Daily Globe, August 7: 5. —. 1894. "In the toils." Boston Daily Globe, November 18: 1. —. 1895. "Mother's Love." Boston Daily Globe, August 6: 5. Chicago Chronicle. 1895. "Tells of one crime." Chicago Chronicle, July 30: 2. —. 1895. "Trail of the fiend." Chicago Chronicle, July 21: 1. Chicago Tribune. 1894. "Spins his own web." Chacgo Tribune, November 22: 1. —. 1895. "Holmes recognized in Toronto." Chcago Tribune, July 17: 12. Daily Boston Globe. 1895. "Good Fisherman." Daily Boston Globe, August 9: 4. Galveston Daily News. 1894. "Two Texas Girls." Galveston Daily News, November 22: 1. Geyer, Frank P. 1896. The Holmes-Pitezel Case: A History of the Greatest Crime of the Century and of the Search for the Missing Pitezel Children. Philadelphia, PA: Publishers' Union. Kerns, Rebecca, Tiffany Lewis, and Cailtin McClure. 2012. Herman Webster Mudgett: Dr. H.H. Holmes or Beast of Chicago. Lecture, Radford, VA: Department of Psychology, Radford University. Larson, Erik. 2003. Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America. New York, NY: Crown Publishers. Mudgett, Herman W. 1895. Holmes' Own Story. Philadelphia, PA: Burke and McFetridge Company. New York Times. 1895. "A boy Holmes' first victim." New York Times, July 31: 3. —. 1896. "Appeal of murderer Holmes." New York Times, February 4: 8. —. 1895. "Claims an alibi." New York Times, July 17: 1. —. 1896. "Holmes cool to the end." New York Times, May 8: 1. —. 1895. "Holmes enters a plea of guilty." New York Times, May 29: 1. —. 1896. "Holmes in a ton of cement." New York Times, May 9: 1. —. 1895. "Holmes sentenced to die." New York Times, December 1: 13. —. 1894. "May be charged with murder." New York Times, November 19: 2. —. 1895. "The Williams girls' fate." New York Times, July 21: 10. Philadelphia Inquirer. 1894. "Cause of death a mystery." Philadelphia Inquirer, September 6: 6. —. 1896. "Holmes' chronology." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 12: 18. —. 1896. "Holmes Confesses 27 murders." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 26: 1. Philadelphia Times. 1894. "All looking for Pitezel." Philadelphia Times, November 21: 1. —. 1894. "Perry's Peculiar Death." Philadelphia Times, September 5: 3. Selzer, Adam. 2017. H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil. New York, NY: Skyhorse Publishing. St. Louis Post-Dispatch. 1894. "Arrested Again." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 29: 8. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 460: H.H. Holmes Part 4

In Part 4 of H.H. Holmes, it gets even wilder. This man has now headed to Texas with his 500th wife and is ready to join his partner in crime, Benjamin Pitezel to steal Minnie Williams' inherited land. He has plans. He plans to now build a Texas murder castle like the one he created in Chicago. But first, Pitezel and Holmes need to scheme their way into a payday, using an insurance scam and faking Pitezel's death. When it looks like Pitezel might back out, things go sour and Holmes goes on a murder spree that brings him to several states and even Canada. Strap in, friends. It's complicated and horrific here. Thank you to Dave White for research assistance. Resources: Philadelphia Inquirer. 1894. "Cause of death a mystery." Philadelphia Inquirer, September 6: 6. —. 1896. "Holmes' chronology." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 12: 18. —. 1896. "Holmes Confesses 27 murders." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 26: 1. Philadelphia Times. 1894. "All looking for Pitezel." Philadelphia Times, November 21: 1. —. 1894. "Perry's Peculiar Death." Philadelphia Times, September 5: 3. Selzer, Adam. 2017. H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil. New York, NY: Skyhorse Publishing. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 459: H.H. Holmes Part 3

In Part 3 H.H. Holmes isn't done being adulterous and he's taking evil to another level. He's conning wives left and right and then takes to arson to earn a quick buck. Today, we go deeper into the design of his "murder castle" while also watching this con man/killer descend further into madness. What will be his undoing? Stay tuned... See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 458: H.H. Holmes Part 2

In part 2 we talk about the infamous "Murder Castle" and begin to dive into the crimes committed there. Holmes' brutality and savagery knew no bounds and now he has a whole building to do it in. Thank you to Dave White for research assistance! See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 457: H.H. Holmes Part 1

When Boston police arrested Dr. Henry Howard Holmes in a West End boarding house on November 17, 1894, they assumed they had apprehended an interstate criminal guilty of defrauding the Fidelity Insurance company of $10,000 and of being a horse thief in Texas. Holmes had been tracked to New England by the Pinkerton Detective Agency, who had suspected him of other crimes in various cities across the country; yet even the most seasoned and creative detective couldn’t have imagined the horrific scope and magnitude of crimes he’d committed. Thanks Dave for this magnificent synopsis! Thanks to Care/of for being a sponsor of this episode. For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to and enter code MORBID50. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 456: The Bonebreaker Case

When the body of fourteen-year-old Chris Steiner was discovered floating in the Wisconsin River on July 10, 1994, it brought a heartbreaking end to the search for the boy who had mysteriously disappeared from his Baraboo, Wisconsin home a week earlier. Officially, the cause of death was drowning. His death was a tragic accident, and nothing more. But was it? A year later, a harrowing 911 call from 14 year old Thad Phillips would bring to light a monster in the boys' own neighborhood, one that would change the ruling in Chris Steiner's death and horrify the community forever. References Associated Press. 1997. Court awards $21M in torture case. October 14. Accessed April 6, 2023. —. 1995. "Teen-age suspect in kidnapping-torture was taunted by peers about 1994 death." Wisconsin State Journal, August 11: 24. Chickering, Pam. 1994. "Baraboo teen-ager missing." Baraboo News Republic, July 8: 1. Clark, Anita. 1996. "Expert: Clark is a sadist, not insane." Wisconsin State Journal, September 18. Dvorak, Rich, and Troy Laack. 1994. "Clue's sought in teen's death." Baraboo News Republic, July 13: 1. —. 1994. "Missing youth's body found." Baraboo News Republic, July 12: 1. Elbow, Steven. 1997. "Expert witness denied voice at Clark trial." Baraboo News Republic, November 7: 1. —. 1996. "Formal charges filed in Steiner case." Portage Daily Register, September 26: 1. Grunig, Tara. 1995. "Clark charged as adult in Phillips case." The Daily Register, September 8: 1. Jaeger, Richard. 1995. "Autopsy discovers broken bones." Wisconsin State Journal, August 5: 1. —. 1995. "Kidnapping-torture similar to year-old case." Wisconsin State Journal, August 3: 1. —. 1995. "Teen questioned in '94 drowning." Wisconsin State Journal, August 4: 1D-2D. O'Connell, Mike. 1995. "13-year-old boy kidnapped, tortured." Baraboo News Republic, August 2: 1. —. 1996. "Clark's defense." Baraboo News Republic, September 17: 1. —. 1996. "'Do you know Chris Steiner'." Baraboo News Republic, September 17: 1. —. 1996. "Jurors bring swift decision; Clark faces 110 hard years." Baraboo News Republic, September 19: 1. —. 1995. "Report confirms incident details." Baraboo News Republic, August 2: 1. Seely, Ron. 1994. "Teen's parents left to wonder." Wisconsin State Journal, August 7: 21. State of Wisconsin v. Joseph C. Clark. 1998. 97-3584-CR (Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, September 3). State of Wisconsin v. Joseph C. Clark. 1999. 98-2402-CR-NM (Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, March 25). Wisconsin State Journal. 1996. "Broken-bome assault case brings plea of no contest." Wisconsin State Journal, September 6. —. 1996. "Shooting delays murder hearing ." Wisconsin State Journal, October 11. —. 1997. "Teen killer who tortured victims gets life in prison." Wisconsin State Journal, November 21. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 455: The Amato Family Murders

On the morning of January 25, 2019, Seminole County sheriff’s deputies were dispatched to a home in Chuluota, Florida to conduct a well-being check on thirty-one-year-old Cody Amato, who failed to show up for work that day. Upon entering the home, officers discovered the bodies of Cody, Chad, and Margaret Amato, all dead from apparent gunshot wounds—there were no signs of a break-in and nothing was missing. The crime scene looked as though it had been staged to look like a murder-suicide and suspicion quickly fell on the Amato’s youngest son, Grant, who was missing from the home. Thank you so much to the lovely David White for research assistance References Dukes, Amanda. 2019. Grant Amato, man found guilty of killing family members, sentenced to life in prison. August 13. Accessed March 22, 2023. Seminole County Sheriff's Office. 2018. CJIS Report. Missing Person; Well-Being, Chuluota, FL: Seminole County Sheriff's Office. State of Florida vs. Grant Tiernan Amato. 2019. 20190000740 (Circuit Court of the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit in and for Seminole County, Florida, January 28). Swenson, Kyle. 2019. "He spent $200,000 on a Bulgarian 'cam girl.'." Washington Post, January 29. Williams, Michael. 2019. "Accused killer seeks millonaire for help with jail bond, emails reveal." Orlando Sentinel, May 15: A1. —. 2019. "Amato's lawyers ask judge to sequester jruy." Orlando Sentinel, June 12: B2. —. 2019. "Grant Amato verdict: Guilty of first-degree murder in killings of family." Orlando Sentinel, July 31. —. 2019. "'I have become somewhat of a celebrity,' accused killer Grant Amato says in letter." Orlando Sentinel, April 27: B2. —. 2019. "'I want to believe you,' surviving sibling says." Orlando Sentinel, March 28: A1. —. 2019. "Judge grants $750k bond for suspect in family murders." Orlando Sentinel, April 26: B1. —. 2019. "Obsession, money, lies tore this family apart." Orlando Sentinel, July 14: A1. —. 2019. "Records give glimpse into Chulota man's relationship with model." Orlando Sentinel, May 30: B1. Williams, Michael, Jeff Weiner, and Gal Lotan. 2019. "'I hate myself for what I did"." Orlando Sentinel, April 16: A1. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 454: That Time I Met A Murderer II ft. Bailey Sarian

We have another fantastic batch of listener tales about the time some of our listeners MET a MURDERER!!! Only this one is super special because we are joined by the exquisite Bailey Sarian!! How fucking exciting. This batch of tales includes a tattoo from a murderer, a present from a murderer and oh no... a date with... a SERIAL KILLER! Check out Murder, Mystery & Makeup & listen to Dark History anywhere you get your podcasts! See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 453: Curses: Micah Rood & The Omen

Today we are looking at CURSES. We talk about the curse of Micah Rood and his bloody apples which stems from murder, execution and a haunting! Then, we get into the truly real, fatal and terrifying events surrounding the production of the horror film, The Omen. Deaths, plane crashes and bombings? Was it really the wrath of the devil or something else entirely? See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 452: Doris Duke and the Murder of Eddie Tirella

On a cold October afternoon in 1966, billionaire heiress Doris Duke returned to her palatial Newport estate in the company of friend and interior decorator Eduardo Tirella, stopping her car just outside the large iron gate that barred entrance to the driveway. Having offered to open the gate, he stepped out of the car and walked toward the gate, when the car began rolling forward, knocking Eduardo to the ground and crushing him under the two-ton weight of Duke’s station wagon. Within four days of Tirella’s death, the Newport Police had closed the case, calling it an “unfortunate accident,” but the residents of Newport, Rhode Island weren’t as convinced. Thank you so much to the remarkable David White for research assistance! References Duca, Rob. 2021. "Newport police closed Doris Duke case, again." Newport This Week, November 24. Duke, Pony, and Jason Thomas. 1996. Too Rich: The Family Secrets of Doris Duke. New York, NY: Harper Collins. Lance, Peter. 2021. Homicide at Rough Point: The Untold Story of How Doris Duke, the Richest Woman In America, Got Away with Murder. Auburn, NH: Tenacity Media. —. 2021. The triple 'murder' of Eduardo Tirella, gay confidant of Doris Duke. November 29. —. 2021. "The Doris Duke Cold Case Reopens: The Only Known Eyewitness Speaks for the First Time." Vanity Fair, August 5. Mansfield, Stephanie. 1992. The Richest Girl in the World: The Extravagant Life and Fast Times of Doris Duke. New York, NY: G.P. Putnam & Sons. New York Times. 1964. "Divorce suit filed against Doris Duke." New York Times, January 11: 14. —. 1935. "Doris Duke is wed to J.H.R. Cromwell." New York Times, February 14: 23. —. 1966. "Duke estate death ruled an accident." New York Times, October 12: 25. Newport Daily News. 1967. "Crash victim's kin asks $2.5 million of Doris Duke." Newport Daily News, December 8: 1. —. 1966. "Death of Miss Duke's friend ruled 'unfortunate accident'." Newport Daily News, October 10: 1. —. 1966. "Doris Duke kills friend in crash." Newport Daily News, October 8: 1. —. 1966. "Press blasts police chief Radice on handling public information." Newport Daily News, November 3: 1. Schwarz, Ted, and Tom Rybak. 1997. Trust No One: The Glamorous Life and Bizarre Death of Doris Duke. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 451: The Legend of Lavinia Fisher with RedHanded

Some say Lavinia would lure men to the inn and lull them into a false sense of calm, before robbing and killing them, then dumping their bodies in the cellar under Six-Mile House. Others say Lavina would drug the weary travelers with a special tea, before pulling the lever on a trap door and dropping the men into the basement, where they would be robbed and killed by John Fisher. And still others believed Lavina guilty of much darker practices involving the devil. But stories—especially local legends—have a way of shifting and changing over time, exchanging mundane facts for sensational speculations, and in this case, begging the question, who was the real Lavinia Fisher and just what was she guilty of? Thank you Dave White for research assistance. Special thanks to Suruthi and Hannah from RedHanded for joining us today! Listen to RedHanded wherever you get your podcasts, or listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music: See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 450: Arthur’s Seat Coffins

In late June 1836, a group of boys hunting rabbits on a hillside on Arthur’s Seat, Edinburgh, discovered a small cave hidden behind three slabs of slate, each piece carved into a rough conical shape. When they moved the pieces of stone, they found hidden within seventeen hand-carved miniature coffins, each containing hand carved figures. For nearly two hundred years, the mystery of the miniature coffins has baffled and delighted tourists and locals alike, all wondering who carved the coffins and why. Theories have been put forth claiming they’re everything from a satanic spell or witchcraft to an ancient custom or even the work of notorious Scottish serial killers and body-snatchers Burke and Hare. Many thanks to the smashing David White for research assistance :) References Blackburn Standard. 1836. "Strange discovery." Blackburn Standard, 07 27. Brown, Allan. 2000. "Coffins that came back from the grave." Sunday Times, September 17. Chapman, Robert. 1958. "Seventeen Tiny Coffins." Derby Evening Telegraph, July 04: 18. Dash, Mike. 2013. Edinburgh’s Mysterious Miniature Coffins. April 15. Accessed March 18, 2023. Dundee Courier. 1836. "The Lilliputian coffins." Dundee Courier, August 25. Harrison, Jody. 2018. "Edinburgh coffin-doll mystery 'cracked at last', claims writer." The Herald, April 17. Horton, Julia. 2005. "Buried secrets of the city murder dolls." Edinburgh Evening News, December 2. National Museums of Scotland. n.d. The mystery of the miniature coffins. Accessed March 18, 2023. O'Neill, Emma. 2019. Sevene facts you may not know about Arthur's Seat. February 28. Accessed March 19, 2023. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 449: The Murder of Daniel Brophy

On Saturday June 2, 2018, students at the Oregon Culinary Institute (OCI) arrived at class that morning to find their instructor, sixty-three-year-old Daniel Brophy, dead from gunshot wounds to the back and chest. With more than fifty years’ experience in the culinary field, Brophy was a popular chef and instructor and, while detectives couldn’t rule out a disgruntled student, no one could imagine his killer was a member of the OCI community. A massive thank you to Caleb for joining Ash on today's episode! Go check out Scream! and Horrorsoup anywhere you listen to podcasts. Thank you to the incredible David White for research assistance! References Court TV. 2022. OR v. Crampton-Brophy: Romance Novelist Murder Trial. June 15. Accessed March 8, 2023. Flynn, Meagan. 2018. "Novelist who wrote about 'How to Murder Your Husband' charged with murdering her husband." Washington Post, September 12. Green, Aimee. 2019. Details of murder case against romance writer should become public in 2 weeks, judge rules. April 5. Accessed March 12, 2023. Karimi, Faith. 2022. "This romance novelist is on trial in her husband's killing. It's like a plot twist from one of her books." CNN Wire, April 7. Kavanaugh, Shane Dixon. 2019. Gun parts bought online at center of Oregon romance novelist’s suspected spouse slaying. April 4. Accessed March 12, 2023. —. 2018. "Romance novelist suspected of slaying husband." Longview Daily News, September 7: B2. —. 2020. No coronavirus ‘guest house’ for Oregon romance writer charged with murdering husband, judge rules. April 10. Accessed March 12, 2023. NBC News. 2022. Dateline. Television, New York, NY: NBC News. O'Rourke, Ciara. 2019. A Beloved Culinary Instructor Was Murdered. What Happened Next Was Stranger Than Fiction. May 31. Accessed March 10, 2023. Paul, Maria Luisa. 2022. "'How to Murder Your Husband' writer sentenced to life for." Washington Post, June 14. Sparling, Zane. 2022. Love vs. money: Lawyers make final arguments in Oregon romance writer’s murder trial. May 22. Accessed March 12, 2023. —. 2022. Oregon romance novelist grilled on amnesia claim, missing gun barrel on crucial day in her murder trial. May 18. Accessed 2023 12, 2022. —. 2022. Spotlight shines on Oregon romance novelist accused of killing chef husband. May 23. Accessed March 8, 2023. Voorhees, Carolyn. 2018. Former students, friends mourn loss of Oregon Culinary Institute chef killed in shooting. June 3. Accessed March 8, 2023. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 448: Burke & Hare Part 2

In the conclusion of the horrific crimes of William Burke and William Hare, we see them get somehow even more brutal. As time went on and they kept profiting off their violent tendencies, they began to get reckless and put their entire scheme and freedom at risk. In the end, only partial justice was served. Get ready, it's wild in here. Thank you Dave White for research assistance. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 447: Burke & Hare Part 1

Throughout the first three decades of the nineteenth century, doctors and medical schools across Europe struggled to find adequate supplies of bodies that could be used for the purposes of teaching in a medical theater. The outsized demand for fresh cadavers led to the rise of “resurrection men", AKA Graverobbers. Disgusting duo William Burke and William Hare found what they believed to be a wildly easy way to provide doctors with a steady stream of recently deceased bodies. In the end, they brutally killed at least sixteen people. The crimes left an chilling mark on Edinburgh specifically, and all of Scotland in the end. Thank you to Dave White for research assistance. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 446: Listener Tales 72: Dream, Astral Projections & Alternate Dimensions

Sweet dreams are made of this.... episode! Or maybe not because some of y'alls dreams are wildin'. But who am I to disagree? ANYWAY! We got a folder full of all your craziest dream stories and alternate universe experiences and we're devouring them this episode. There are roads that exist and then don't, prophetic dreams, and a shared dream experience. The grand finale will blow your mind with an entire village/life/murder conviction. If you have a tale that you'd like to share please send it on in to with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :) See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 445: The Murder of Kelly Ann Tinyes

Kelly Ann Tinyes was at home babysitting her eight-year-old brother, Richie, on the afternoon of March 3, 1989 when the phone rang. Richie answered, talking briefly to the man on the other end of the line, before handing the phone to his sister, telling her it was someone named “John.” After a short conversation with “John,” Kelly hung up the phone and left the house around 3:15 pm, telling her brother she was going to her friend’s house down the street and would be right back. It was the last time Kelly’s family would see her alive. Thank you to the prodigious David White for research assistance :) References Associated Press. 1990. "Sex motive charged in girl's slaying." The Journal News, February 16: 18. Bessent, Alvin. 1989. "Defense lawyer thrown off LI murder case." Newsday, October 3: 47. Danney, Micah. 2015. "Tinyes girl's killer denied parole." Long Island Herald, November 18. Lyall, Sarah. 1990. "Blood tests link Golub to crime scene." New York Times, March 1: B2. —. 1990. "Golub Case: Main Puzzle Is the Suspect." New York Times, March 5: B1. —. 1990. "Marks on body not from bites, dentist testifies." New York Times, March 23: B4. Milton, Pat. 1989. "Teen's murder transforms quiet L.I. neighborhood." The Journal News, March 26: 77. Mulugeta, Samson. 1997. "Drug case brings echo of murder." Newsday, March 23: 29. New York Times. 1978. "Not guilty verdict finds killer insane." New York Times, April 27: D21. Nieves, Evelyn. 1998. "What Happened on Horton Road." New York Times, May 31. Pearlman, Shirley, and Elizabeth Wasserman. 1989. "Tempers flare as murder hearing begins." Newsday, August 15: 61. Pearlman, Shirley, and Phil Mintz. 1989. "What cops say Golub told them." Newsday, August 15: 3. People v. Robert Golub. 1993. 196 A.D.2d 637 (Nassau County Appeals Court, August 23). Watkins, Ronald J. 2000. Against Her Will: The Senseless Murder of Kelly Ann Tinyes. Syracuse, NY: Pinnacle Books. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at


Episode 444: Rebecca Aylward

On the afternoon of October 22, 2010, fifteen-year-old Rebecca Aylward left her house in Maesteg, Wales. She had plans to meet her ex- boyfriend in a wooded area just outside of Aberkenfig, under the guise that they were reconciling. She told her mother, “Bye Mam, I love you,” as she grabbed her purse and walked out the door—it was the last time her mother would see Becca alive. Thank you to the ravishing David White for research assistance :) See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at