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Send us Fan Mail Justice is easy to talk about until you have to define what it looks like outside a courtroom. David sits down with author Daniel Mark Grace to wrestle with the questions true crime always circles: what do we mean when we call something evil, who carries the burden of judgment, and how does a society decide it has the right to take a human life? We dig into the uncomfortable overlap of law and religion, especially in capital punishment cases where moral belief, legal precedent, and human emotion all show up in the same room. We talk about why criminal defense attorneys matter even when the crime is monstrous, and why “fair process” is a heavy promise for jurors, investigators, and families. Along the way, we challenge the urge to flatten violent crimes into simple narratives, because context is often the part that hurts to look at. Grace also walks us through the ideas behind his novel In the Wake of Golgotha, a story that reimagines Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot in modern-day New York City. From Golgotha to Central Park, the book uses guilt, ambition, weakness, addiction, and a personified darkness to ask whether people are driven by fate or choice and whether anyone gets a second chance after an unforgivable act. If you care about true crime storytelling, the death penalty debate, and the deeper psychology of good and evil, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show. Order your copy of In The Wake of Golgotha today! https://www.amazon.com/Wake-Golgotha-Daniel-Grace/dp/B0FY3WCZWR/ David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us Fan Mail A crucifixion is a historical event, a religious symbol, and also a legal sentence carried out by real people. That’s the doorway we walk through with author Daniel Grace, a Chianti Classico winemaker who wrote a dark, modern literary thriller rooted in an ancient act of capital punishment. We talk about his debut novel, In The Wake Of Golgotha, and why he chose to reimagine Judas Iscariot and Pontius Pilate not as flat villains, but as human beings trapped in the aftermath of judgment. Daniel shares the research that surprised him most: how little we truly know about these figures, how “convenient narratives” harden into cultural memory, and why the question of who is responsible still haunts modern true crime conversations. From there, we draw sharp parallels between ancient Jerusalem and present-day New York City, between crucifixion and the death penalty, and between courtroom procedure and the spiritual rituals that surround an execution. We also explore the uncomfortable “middle hands” of justice, the people tasked with carrying out a sentence, and how juries weigh guilt when addiction, trauma, and desperation are part of the story. If you’re interested in capital crime cases, jury psychology, crime and punishment, redemption, and the overlap between faith and violence, this bonus conversation goes straight to the hard questions. Subscribe to Murder Police Podcast, share this episode with a friend who loves thoughtful true crime, and leave us a review with your take: can any sentence ever truly fit the worst crimes? Order your copy of In The Wake of Golgotha today! https://www.amazon.com/Wake-Golgotha-Daniel-Grace/dp/B0FY3WCZWR/ David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us Fan Mail A capital case turns on a quiet skill most courtroom dramas skip: building the right jury. We walk you through how careful voir dire, local insight, and patient strategy led to a strong panel—and why, eight days into testimony, the defense abruptly pled guilty and waived appeals. From there, the story jumps years ahead to a tense parole window, where two hours of focused testimony convinced the Kentucky Parole Board to impose life. What emerges is a real look at how justice isn’t a single moment but a chain of disciplined choices. We also open the hood on defense tactics and the math of reasonable doubt, the penalty-phase mindset, and why judges’ tendencies can shape a case’s path. Sonny shares how the investigation—and a promise to a victim’s mother—reshaped his policing: trust trained intuition, chase the small lead before it dies, and never let pride outrun the work. You’ll hear about a partial, lawyer-shaped statement that skirts ownership, prior serious offenses that foreshadowed tragedy, and the haunting possibility of uncounted victims along trucking corridors where mobility creates opportunity and witnesses are scarce. The conversation doesn’t stop at the criminal courtroom. We examine the civil suit that tested a carrier’s hiring practices and the realistic limits of employer liability, even as detectives weave weigh-station data, phone records, and witness timelines into proof. A striking moment—spotting a blue 1978 Ford F-250 after the parole hearing—feels like a closing loop, a nod to attention paid and a promise kept. If you care about true crime that respects victims, values craft over theatrics, and honors the grind behind big decisions, this story will stay with you. If this episode resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review. Your support helps keep victims’ names alive and brings more careful reporting to cases that deserve it. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send a text A prayer on the interstate. A family in a hotel room. An angel-shaped earring that turns a hunch into a roadmap. We take you inside a rare blend of raw humanity and rigorous police work as a young investigator faces the most difficult duty in the job—breaking unimaginable news—then steps into the fire to build a case that can stand up in court. From a guarded stretch of highway to a lab bench in Quantico, we trace how small details grow into powerful evidence. You’ll hear how a yellow-insulated wire with a blue connector, found near a guardrail, links back to a suspect’s truck through meticulous tool‑mark comparison. We unpack early medical insights pointing to rape and a fatal neck disarticulation, and we navigate the mid‑90s landscape of evolving DNA science: blood in a recovered mattress matching the victim, seminal fluid matching the suspect, and the careful chain of custody that kept it all intact. The angel earring—one at the scene, one in the truck—undergoes metallurgical testing to confirm a high‑probability pair, adding another beam to a structure of proof. The investigation widens with the FBI and Kentucky State Police at the table, a late‑night warrant, and a suspect who goes from talkative to silent. Inside the courthouse, elite defense counsel challenges every inch—preservation motions, discovery dumps, and attacks on forensic reliability—while the prosecution assembles a clear, consistent story for a thoughtful jury. Through it all, we keep focus where it belongs: honoring the victim, supporting the family, and showing the unglamorous, exacting craft that turns compassion and evidence into justice. Subscribe, share with a true crime friend, and leave a quick review to help others find the show. What piece of evidence stood out most to you—DNA, the wire, or the earring? We’d love to hear your take. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send a text A lone truck on a crowded interstate. A quick mental calculation that says, stop this one. That’s where our story turns: a roadside decision that opens a far bigger truth about the disappearance of Myra Stoboski and the precision required to find it. We walk through the stop, the small talk that doesn’t add up, and the careful strategy behind securing consent for a full search. Inside the sleeper berth, the details speak louder than any denial: long blonde hairs with apparent skin matter, a bare stained mattress flipped to hide its story, and the soft drop of a bent angel earring. Those finds point in one direction, but discipline matters. We explain why probable cause isn’t enough, why triability drives decisions. From there, the work shifts to timelines and corroboration. Subpoenaed phone records and weigh station logs lock movements to minutes, undermining the suspect’s Walmart claim and placing Myra’s final call at a truck stop six miles north. With a likely interstate crime scene, we bring in the FBI, whose resources and experience accelerate the search. An air-to-ground sweep follows the data, scanning I-71 with purpose until a helicopter call changes everything at mile marker 29.5. On the embankment, the visual facts connect back to that tiny earring and a trail of contradictions, turning a gut feeling into a case that can stand in court. Along the way, we talk about what most true crime shows gloss over: how to protect a search from suppression, why suspects are kept present, and how body language in silence can be its own interview. We share the emotional weight carried by families and investigators who have to wait one more day for the truth to hold. It’s a story about patience, evidence, and the power of small clues to cut through big lies. If this episode resonated, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a written review. Your support helps us honor victims and keep their names alive. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send a text A father’s worry, a 14.7-second call, and a grainy tape from a SuperAmerica lot set a true crime story in motion. We walk you through the final hours of 18-year-old reserve officer Myra Stalbosky—her truck trouble on I-65, a rest area encounter with a trucker, and a pickup left at Exit 22 with no sign of its driver. Then comes the sound that changes everything: a jake brake on I-71, a passing rig that looks just like the one on tape, and a radio call that turns instinct into a traffic stop. We invited Sonny Boggs to unpack not only what happened, but how he knew where to look. His path from teenage firefighter to EMT to military police laid the groundwork for a quiet kind of readiness—calm, curiosity, and the habit of asking one more question. That background explains the decisive moves in this case: recognizing value in poor video, calling the chief early, looping in media, and seizing a fleeting chance on the interstate. When the driver is stopped, his answers—forgetfulness about yesterday, an admission to falsifying a logbook—become behavioral evidence that sharp listeners will hear for what it is: a story caving in. This episode is a study in how real investigations advance without cinematic shortcuts. Small departments juggle robberies, missing persons, and scarce resources. Evidence is rarely clean; cameras are outdated, and witnesses are tired or scared. Yet people and choices still matter. A father shows grace. An officer trusts his training and his gut. A team moves fast, not reckless. If you’re drawn to cases where observation, timing, and human nature intersect, this is that story. Stay with us for part one of a case that honors the victim, respects the family, and shows how intuition aligns with hard evidence on the road to justice. If this moved you or taught you something about real police work, hit follow, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review so more listeners can find it. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text Want a straight answer on how homicide investigations actually work? We’re gathering at the Clark County Public Library in Winchester, Kentucky on Thursday February 5, 2026 at 6:00 PM, for an evening that swaps TV shortcuts for the real craft of solving serious crimes. I’ll share the nuts and bolts of building a case—from the first officer on scene to evidence processing, interview strategy, timelines, and the tight coordination with labs and prosecutors—so you can see why patience, documentation, and corroboration are the backbone of the work. We go deep on mythbusting. Expect clear talk about DNA limitations and backlogs, what a “match” really means, how interview bias creeps in and gets checked, and why airtight chain of custody beats dramatic reveals every time. I’ll walk through ethical decisions that rarely make headlines: notifying families, managing rumor storms, and balancing public transparency with the need to protect an investigation. Along the way, I’ll read short passages from my book, True Crime and Consequences, to ground the principles in real scenes and human stakes. Bring your questions. We’ll open the floor for a candid Q&A on cold cases, digital evidence, false confessions, and why some investigations stall while others move. You’ll also find discounted copies of the book and some free Murder Police Podcast swag as a thank-you to our local community and the library that makes events like this possible. If you value clear facts, careful method, and a respectful approach to victims and truth, this session is a chance to learn, challenge your assumptions, and connect with others who care about justice. Subscribe, share this with a true crime friend, and leave a quick review to help more people find the show. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text A father’s worst fear met a hard truth: remains found near a previously searched area were identified as Little Timmy Sterner. We invited Timmy’s dad, Tim, and stepmom, Ashley, to share what changed, what hasn’t, and how a family holds steady when communication from investigators goes quiet. The conversation moves from the moment the detective confirmed the ID to the agonizing weeks of no callbacks, and the practical fallout—memorial plans paused, questions multiplying, and a city’s attention drifting while a family can’t sleep. We unpack the scene details that matter for investigators: the proximity to a known house, the pet cemetery nearby, and the personal items still in his pockets, including a jail card and debit card. From there, we walk through the forensic realities of skeletal analysis—how labs assess bones for trauma, tool marks, and environmental effects to determine cause and manner of death. It’s slow work, but it’s essential, and it deserves clear, regular updates to the people who are living with the consequences. The heart of this episode is simple: respect the dead, and honor the living with information they can hold onto. Timmy and Ashley speak candidly about grief without closure, the need for accountability, and the question that haunts every parent: why. We also make a direct plea to the community. Someone knows what happened after Little Timmy walked out of custody and into that house. If you’ve heard anything, come forward—your voice may be the missing piece that moves this case toward arrest and conviction. After recording, we received one meaningful step forward: the Kentucky State Police released Timmy’s remains to the family so they can lay him to rest. If you care about true crime that centers victims and demands answers, this story needs you. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a written review. Your support helps keep victims’ names alive and pushes hard questions into the light. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text The mics are live again and the purpose is sharper than ever. After months of moving chaos, a dismantled studio, and a nasty bout of cervical nerve pain, we return with a Season 12 recap, a clear-eyed plan for Season 13, and a commitment that guides every decision: we never rush families for the sake of content. We walk through the moments that mattered last season—Linda Price’s disappearance told with her mother and son, Detective Eddie Pearson’s plain-language guide to deception detection, a documentary-style revisit to Rhonda Day’s case that helped local media reengage, and the high-voltage “Three Things” debates on Karen Read and Susan Smith. Then we look forward. The most requested story is back with a major development: Whatever Happened To Little Timmy now has a meaningful update. If you didn’t catch the news months ago, you’ll hear it here—because Tim reached out when he was ready. That’s the standard. Consent first, always. We also preview new work: an interview with a former detective on a Kentucky case involving an 18-year-old killed by an over-the-road truck driver, plus out-of-state cases we’ve been quietly building. Along the way, we celebrate the community that kept us moving—book tours for True Crime and Consequences, radio panels, local bookstore events, a classroom Q&A, and even a joyful detour with Buffett Jeep Girl and a Radio Margaritaville feature that proves light can live alongside hard truths. If you’re passionate about a case and think we’re the right fit, reach out. Subscribe on YouTube, set your podcast app to auto-download, and leave a five-star written review so more people find these stories. Share this episode with someone who cares about ethical true crime—and tell us which case you want us to cover next. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text 3 Things: Susan Smith What drives a mother to murder her own children? The Susan Smith case continues to haunt us nearly three decades later, raising profound questions about evil, justice, and the darkest corners of human nature. When Susan Smith reported that her two young sons had been kidnapped by a male black carjacker in October 1994, the nation watched in horror as the young mother made tearful television appeals for their safe return. But something about her story didn't add up. No witnesses, inconsistent statements, and behavior that struck many as performative rather than genuine. Nine days into the investigation, the truth emerged—there was no carjacker. Susan had driven her car to John D. Long Lake with three-year-old Michael and 14-month-old Alexander strapped inside, then released the brake, letting the vehicle roll into the water while she escaped. The devastating reality behind Smith's actions came into focus as investigators uncovered her relationship with a wealthy man who had recently ended their affair, making it clear he didn't want children. Rather than allowing her husband David to raise the boys, Smith chose to eliminate what she perceived as obstacles to her happiness in the most horrific way imaginable. The method of murder—drowning—inflicted terror and suffering on her children in their final moments, leaving first responders and family members with trauma that persists to this day. This episode dives deep into Wendy and David's most striking aspects of this infamous case: the initial lie and its racial component, the heartless method of murder, and the ongoing questions about justice as Susan Smith faces regular parole hearings that force her victims' family to repeatedly relive their trauma. Should someone who deliberately murdered their children ever walk free? Join us as we examine the case that changed how America views maternal filicide and consider what true justice looks like for the most vulnerable victims. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text The aching void of a missing loved one tears at the fabric of a family like nothing else. Rhonda Faye Day—compassionate soul, devoted grandmother-caretaker, avid reader, and animal lover—vanished from Kentucky on July 28, 2018, leaving her family in a nightmare that continues to this day. We trace Rhonda's story through the eyes of those who knew her best. She was the woman who stopped to move turtles from busy roads, the one who painted rocks for children to discover in parks, who sat beside hospital beds caring for ailing relatives. Despite personal struggles with addiction, Rhonda maintained deep connections with her family, especially her grandmother with whom she shared a home. The details surrounding her disappearance raise disturbing questions. After borrowing just $5 for gas to visit a childhood friend in Louisville, Rhonda called her grandmother promising to return home. She never did. Her car appeared days later, abandoned near the Ohio River, just over a mile from where she was last reportedly seen. Police told the family to retrieve the vehicle themselves instead of processing it for evidence—a critical error that may have compromised valuable forensic information. Meanwhile, the person Rhonda visited never participated in searches or reached out to check on her whereabouts. What happened to Rhonda Day? Did she suffer an overdose that someone covered up? Did something more sinister occur? Or, as some suggest but her family firmly denies, did she choose to disappear? The absence of activity on her phone or financial accounts since that July day speaks volumes. Someone knows what happened to Rhonda, and her family deserves answers. If you have information—no matter how small—please contact the Louisville Metro Police Department at 502-574-7111. Help bring Rhonda home and end this family's torment. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text The suspicious death of John O'Keefe and the subsequent trials of Karen Reed have divided communities, sparked heated debates online, and left countless questions unanswered. Was this a tragic accident, or something far more sinister? Join Wendy and David as they each share "3 Things" that they take away from this case. We dive deep into three key elements that raise serious doubts about what really happened that fateful night. First, the mysterious series of "butt dials" to O'Keefe's phone suggests someone was desperately searching for his device during critical hours. Second, the disturbing injuries on O'Keefe's arm – wounds containing pig DNA that resembled animal bites rather than car damage – coincided with the Alberts rehoming their German Shepherd shortly after the incident. Third, the suspicious Google searches asking "how long to die in the cold". Beyond the evidence itself, this case highlights systemic issues that plague our justice system. The shocking misconduct by State Trooper Michael Proctor, who sent horrifically unprofessional text messages about Karen Reed, undermined the prosecution's credibility. Meanwhile, the exceptional work of Reed's defense team exploited these vulnerabilities to create reasonable doubt. The decision to elevate charges from reckless behavior to murder may have ultimately backfired, as the evidence struggled to support such serious allegations. The Karen Reed case may well become this generation's OJ Simpson trial – legally resolved but forever questioned in the court of public opinion. Did the perfect storm of police misconduct, skilled defense work, and media attention prevent the truth from emerging? Or did the system work exactly as designed by preventing conviction when reasonable doubt existed? What do you think happened that night? Join the conversation and share your theories with us on YouTube or social media. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text David delves into the complex relationship between true crime enthusiasts and law enforcement, revealing how these two passionate communities can collaborate effectively to solve cases and support victims' families. The conversation explores the dangerous "landmines" amateur investigators must navigate - from constitutional issues to potential criminal charges. When true crime enthusiasts enter someone's property without permission or record conversations in two-party consent states, they risk not only compromising cases but facing legal jeopardy themselves. David shares wisdom gathered from decades in law enforcement, providing a crucial framework for ethical investigation. What makes this discussion particularly valuable is its dual perspective. While acknowledging the incredible resource true crime communities offer - primarily time and fresh viewpoints that overworked detectives desperately need - the conversation doesn't shy away from addressing problematic behaviors like vigilante "pedo catchers" who may actually make predators harder to catch. The podcast introduces a powerful concept: that silence from investigators doesn't mean inaction, but rather careful, methodical work happening behind the scenes. Most poignantly, David introduces the term "survivors" - the families and friends left behind after murders or disappearances - revealing how his book has already helped some navigate their frustration and grief by understanding investigation processes. This bridges the empathy gap between those who view cases as professional challenges and those who experience them as life-shattering events. Ready to become a more effective advocate for justice? Join the movement to create productive partnerships between true crime communities and law enforcement. Check murderpolicepodcast.com for upcoming tour dates, or reach out if you'd like David to visit your local bookstore or true crime club to continue this crucial conversation. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text What happens when the lines blur between true crime fascination and real murder investigations? Former homicide detective David Lyons tackles this pressing question in his groundbreaking book, "True Crime and Consequences: Does the True Crime Community Help Murder Investigations or Hurt Them?" On this special "hostile takeover" episode of the Murder Police Podcast, communication expert Scott Harvey interviews David about the delicate relationship between amateur sleuths and professional investigators. The timing couldn't be more relevant—as the true crime genre explodes in popularity, questions about ethics and responsibility have never been more important. David reveals how his book serves as an essential primer for multiple audiences. For true crime enthusiasts, it provides the "playground rules" to engage with cases responsibly. For content creators, it offers guidance on avoiding pitfalls that could jeopardize active investigations. And perhaps most surprisingly, it challenges law enforcement to recognize the value that dedicated civilians can bring to cold cases. Drawing from decades of investigative experience, David shares compelling insights about the differences between "virtue justice" (public condemnation) and criminal justice (proper legal proceedings). He points to troubling examples where social media campaigns have derailed prosecutions and potentially re-victimized grieving families. The conversation highlights a powerful paradox: while investigators are bound by legal constraints, members of the public can sometimes access information and perspectives that might otherwise remain hidden. When these two worlds collaborate effectively—with proper boundaries and mutual respect—justice becomes more attainable. Whether you're a dedicated true crimer, a law enforcement professional, or simply someone who cares about how justice works in the modern media landscape, this episode offers invaluable perspective on a relationship that continues to evolve. The question isn't whether true crime communities will influence investigations—it's how we can ensure that influence leads to justice rather than undermines it. David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available! This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere. http://truecrimeconsequences.com/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text Unlocking the secrets of deception through body language and strategic questioning—Eddie Pearson returns for the final installment of our riveting four-part series on reading what's not being said. Your body betrays your words. Despite our best efforts to control our non-verbal communication, our physiological responses—from subtle changes in breathing to unconscious movements—reveal what we're trying to hide. Pearson breaks down how investigators identify and interpret these invaluable clues during high-stakes interviews. "The feet are the most honest part of the body," Pearson explains, demonstrating how toe direction indicates true intentions and comfort levels. He shares a compelling real-case example where a suspect's inadvertent response to a hypothetical question about cell phone recording immediately exposed his deception. Pearson reveals how "barring"—the tension in jaw muscles resembling an animal's defensive posture—once helped a corrections officer avoid assault by recognizing this primal warning sign. Beyond physical cues, Pearson dissects the art of strategic questioning. Learn why "what caused this to happen?" elicits more truthful responses than asking "why," how precise language prevents suspects from exploiting ambiguity, and why seemingly casual questions can crack even the most prepared liars. His insights on creating "windows" for confessions demonstrate how skilled investigators respond rather than react to shocking admissions. Whether you're fascinated by criminal psychology, communication dynamics, or the science of truth-seeking, Pearson's decades of expertise offer valuable lessons that extend far beyond interrogation rooms. Subscribe now to access all four parts of this masterclass in reading between the lines. Did you know that the episode you are about to listen to is available on YouTube as a full multicamera experience? Search for The Murder Police Podcast channel on YouTube, subscribe and see what you have been missing. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMurderPolicePodcast See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text The human body betrays what the mind tries to conceal. From ancient Chinese techniques using rice to detect lies to modern statement analysis methods, our conversation with Eddie Pearson reveals the fascinating science behind deception detection. When someone lies, their brain experiences increased cognitive load – the mental strain of fabricating details while suppressing truth. This triggers physiological responses impossible to control: dry mouth, changed blinking patterns, and subtle shifts in posture. These involuntary reactions have provided the foundation for lie detection throughout human history. Pearson shares powerful interrogation techniques that leverage these responses. The strategic use of silence forces suspects to fill uncomfortable voids, often revealing more than they intended. Language analysis provides equally compelling insights – shifts in verb tense during narratives, dropped personal pronouns, and words ending in "-ly" often signal deception. Even the choice between articles ("a" versus "the") can reveal someone's true familiarity with people or situations they claim not to know. "The first person to speak after a question is the person who loses," Pearson notes, highlighting how patience becomes a powerful tool in uncovering truth. Through case examples, including a hit-and-run investigation where a single word ("directly") unlocked crucial information, we explore how these techniques have solved real crimes and revealed hidden truths. Whether you're fascinated by criminal psychology, communication science, or simply interested in understanding human behavior better, this episode offers rare insights into how our words and bodies reveal what we try to hide. Subscribe now to hear the next installment in our series with Eddie Pearson, where we'll continue exploring the science of detecting deception. Did you know that the episode you are about to listen to is available on YouTube as a full multicamera experience? Search for The Murder Police Podcast channel on YouTube, subscribe and see what you have been missing. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMurderPolicePodcast Lore and Crime Lore and Crime is a spine-chilling podcast that unearths historical dark tales. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text Eddie Pearson pulls back the curtain on interrogation psychology, revealing that our feet—not our faces—often betray our true feelings. "The feet are the most honest part of the body," he explains, drawing from decades of experience reading subtle cues that most people miss. Far from the Hollywood portrayal of intimidating interrogators, Pearson describes a more nuanced approach focused on building rapport, managing cognitive load, and paying attention to clusters of non-verbal behaviors. The conversation takes surprising turns, exploring how something as simple as offering water creates a psychological obligation that suspects often feel compelled to reciprocate with honesty. "I always bring them a bottle of water," Pearson notes. "Now I've given you something. Now you need to give me something." Another investigator adds, "If we had a 24-hour Burger King next to headquarters, our confession rate would probably increase." Pearson shares practical techniques like watching for "anchor point movements"—when someone shifts multiple points of physical contact simultaneously in response to specific questions—and recognizing "smoke screening," where subjects overwhelm investigators with irrelevant but verifiable details. These tactics aren't just useful in criminal investigations; they apply to everyday situations from restaurant recommendations to business negotiations. What makes this discussion particularly valuable is its balanced perspective on truth-seeking. While confession techniques are explored in depth, Pearson emphasizes that success isn't measured by getting confessions but by uncovering truth—sometimes exonerating innocent people. "My job is to get as much information as I can," he explains, highlighting cases where polygraph examinations helped clear wrongly accused suspects. Whether you're fascinated by criminal psychology or simply want to better understand human communication, this episode offers rare insights into the subtle art of reading people beyond their words. Ready to detect deception in your daily life? Listen now and discover what people's bodies reveal when their words say otherwise. Did you know that the episode you are about to listen to is available on YouTube as a full multicamera experience? Search for The Murder Police Podcast channel on YouTube, subscribe and see what you have been missing. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMurderPolicePodcast See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text Forget everything you've seen in crime dramas about slamming tables and bright lights. Former detective Eddie Pearson reveals the subtle science behind real interrogation techniques in this eye-opening conversation about body language and statement analysis. The forehead serves as the "billboard of body language," where trained investigators can read microexpressions that betray our inner thoughts. Pearson explains why watching for changes in someone's baseline behavior matters more than looking for specific "deception indicators." Context is everything—the same physical expression can represent either profound joy or devastating grief depending on the situation. Fascinatingly, Pearson reveals the cognitive load created by lying. The brain must perform six distinct mental operations to tell and maintain a lie, triggering a cascade of stress hormones that manifest physically. This explains why investigators watch for shifts in breathing patterns, hand gestures, and body posture that signal this internal struggle. Did you know women typically possess twice as many emotional receptors in their brains as men? This biological difference explains why women often excel at detecting emotional nuances and deception. Pearson shares how this gender distinction plays out in real-world interrogations and how both men and women can develop stronger observation skills. The most powerful moments in an interrogation often come when suspects adopt what Pearson calls the "ears over heart" posture—leaning forward with their body language signaling surrender. This physical shift frequently precedes confession, highlighting how our bodies often reveal truth before our words catch up. Want to sharpen your own ability to read nonverbal cues? Pearson offers a simple exercise: watch your favorite TV show with the sound off for 15 minutes, then check your accuracy. This practical technique helps develop the same observational skills that make effective investigators. Did you know that the episode you are about to listen to is available on YouTube as a full multicamera experience? Search for The Murder Police Podcast channel on YouTube, subscribe and see what you have been missing. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMurderPolicePodcast See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text A decade of unanswered questions haunts the family of Linda Price, who vanished from a small Kentucky community leaving behind only whispers, theories, and a mother and son determined to bring her home. The truth seems tangled in the complex web of small-town silence. Linda's son Chase and her mother Mary Elizabeth share their most credible theory: Linda was staying with a man in McKinney when she and another woman allegedly took money. When consequences came calling, the other woman blamed Linda entirely—potentially sealing her fate. This narrative has consistently emerged from multiple sources, including prison informants and community whispers. "It's a very tight community down there. You know everybody's got tight lips... If you're a snitch, you're going to go missing," Chase explains, describing the code of silence that has protected those with knowledge for ten years. The woman who allegedly falsely accused Linda still lives in the community, reportedly clean from drugs but "carrying a demon on her back," while the man Linda stayed with has seemingly vanished without trace. Their search has led to "the cut"—an old train tunnel in McKinney where sources suggest Linda's remains may have been discarded after being moved multiple times during decomposition. Despite numerous searches by both family and authorities, no conclusive evidence has emerged. A recent anonymous tip pointed toward Pulaski County Park Lake, offering yet another location to investigate. What's most striking is the family's perspective on justice. They've prepared a headstone with Linda's birth date but no death date, and a burial plot awaits her. "I'm not looking for revenge or retribution, just relief," says Chase. Their message to those with knowledge shows remarkable grace: "I respect why you're doing what you do, because of the world you live in, but don't make us be a part of that world and just give us what we want." If you have information about Linda Price's disappearance, please come forward—even anonymously. A family waits to bring their loved one home, offering understanding rather than judgment in exchange for the truth they've sought for far too long. Did you know that the episode you are about to listen to is available on YouTube as a full multicamera experience? Search for The Murder Police Podcast channel on YouTube, subscribe and see what you have been missing. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMurderPolicePodcast Shop for Murder Police Podcast swag by clicking HERE today! 10% of ALL swag and merch proceeds are donated to the DNA Doe Project. See what you have been missing on YouTube!

Send us a text The haunting disappearance of Linda Price tears at the heart of a Kentucky family as whispered secrets circulate but answers remain elusive. Mary Elizabeth never imagined she would hear news about her missing daughter from inmates at the Lincoln County Jail where she worked. "Miss Mary, we have family out there. We can't talk to you about anything," they told her after making cryptic comments suggesting they knew what happened to Linda. This devastating experience eventually forced Mary to leave a job she loved because she couldn't bear working "beside these people that know what's happened to my daughter." Born in 1983 in Danville, Kentucky, Linda Price was a loving mother of two who enjoyed simple pleasures – skating at the local rink, playing with dolls as a child, and surrounding herself with her favorite color, blue. As the only girl among three brothers, she learned to be tough early in life. But toughness wasn't enough to shield her from the grip of addiction that eventually led to her cycling through local jails and distancing herself from loved ones. The last confirmed contact with Linda was a phone call with her father on June 8, 2015. Her son Chase, just 12 years old at the time, initially didn't grasp the severity of his mother's disappearance given her history of being "in and out of the picture." Years later, he's still searching for answers alongside his grandmother, who carries the weight of wondering if she could have done more. "I carry a lot of blame that I wasn't there for her," Mary Elizabeth shares, her grief still raw after nearly a decade. What really happened to Linda Price? Does someone in this close-knit community know the truth? Listen as we explore this heartbreaking mystery that reveals how substance abuse, small-town dynamics, and family struggles converge into a perfect storm of uncertainty and pain. If you recognize Linda or have information about her disappearance, please contact authorities or the podcast team immediately. Did you know that the episode you are about to listen to is available on YouTube as a full multicamera experience? Search for The Murder Police Podcast channel on YouTube, subscribe and see what you have been missing. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMurderPolicePodcast Shop for Murder Police Podcast swag by clicking HERE today! 10% of ALL swag and merch proceeds are donated to the DNA Doe Project. See what you have been missing on YouTube!