Our Strange Skies: UFOs Throughout History

Pull out your humanoid catalogs and put your flaps on a map, it’s time for the season (maybe series?!) finale of Our Strange Skies. On this episode Nicole and Noëlle from The Quite Unusual Podcast stop by to talk about the landmark publication, The Humanoids. With the even longer subtitle of “a survey of World-Wide reports of landings of unconventional aerial objects and their alleged Occupants…” this special edition of Britain’s Flying Saucer Review was the first of its kind, devoted solely to the humanoids that UFO investigators and the press had largely ignored to this point. We dive into this document, the larger implications it offers, what the true meaning of alien contact is, and we put all of these flaps up on map. Is Earth basically just a timeshare for aliens? Do they visit us at our most mundane moments? Are the Men in Black real estate brokers and did they pay Ed Walters to make Gulf Breeze more attractive to alien tourists? Why is the onesie the most efficient form of clothing? We explore this and so much more! Source: “The Humanoids” edited by Charles Bowen, Flying Saucer Review, Special Issue #1, October-November 1966 Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast!

We're going to be taking a break from the Great UFO Conspiracy series, but before we do, I wanted y'all to hear this episode I recorded with Adam Gorightly (Historia Discordia), the author of Saucers, Spooks, and Kooks: UFO Disinformation in the Age of Aquarius. We discuss Tal Levesque, and the origins of the Dulce Base myth, Bill Moore's role in disseminating disinformation, the Pratt Tapes, the UAP Hearing, Myrna Hanson, how some groups in ufology are becoming more militarized, and much much more. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emily Louise from Weird Reads with Emily Louise joins the pod to unleash a torrent of paranoid skepticism. This episode contains a fair amount of shit talking about David Paulides, Leo Sprinkle, Rick Doty, and Bill Moore. We question how trustworthy Jacques Vallee and J Allen Hyenk were, the unreliability of hypnosis, and so much more! "When that synth comes on, and you're going inside the cow's ass... beautiful..." - Emily Louise Think Anomalous has lots of fun videos and you should check them out. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Here is our uncut interview with David Riedel, son of Pat McGuire and author of "My Dad Was A Famous Alien Abductee. I Thought He Was A Joke — Now I'm Not So Sure." David talks about his time growing up in an abusive cult, the existence of the well and what that means to his life, spending time with Pat growing up, and what it means to get his story out there. We also talk about a FOIA request he made with the FBI, David Paulides' shitty YouTube video, David's own personal experiences, and much, much more. For those interested in seeing that stupid David Paulides video, here it is. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ten miles from Bosler, Wyoming sits a ranch with a rather unusual feature. A well over 350 feet deep. A miracle well whose builder was told that he would never strike water. And yet, he did. Pat McGuire's well is an enduring mystery. It's the largest artesian well ever dug in Wyoming, and it was dug in an area that everyone said would be dry. But Pat had faith and a little guidance from an alien angel named Michael. This well would bring with it a host of UFOs, alien abductions, hypnosis sessions, bids for governor, nationwide publicity, and a small cult. Pat's story is a cautionary tale, and one that should be handled with care. And as his son, David Riedel put it, “...we should feel impelled to investigate and rescue a community living with the trauma of the unknown and indescribable. A community we greeted with sneers and derision for so long, a community we pushed to the outskirts of our cultural limits to be safely ignored. If it is all true ― or it is all lies and sickness ― we should approach both valuations with care and consideration, even skepticism, but not with the intense ridicule so many of us have given them for so long.” Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Is it saucers, satanists or CIA?” wrote Tom Adams in Stigmata, the only zine dedicated to the cattle mutilation phenomenon of the 1970s and 80s, and by the end of the decade, researchers and investigators were no closer to finding the culprit. The road to the greatest UFO conspiracy of all time is a windy one, laced with paranoia, shady figures, and a carcass count in the tens of thousands. The mute phenomenon was a slow moving one that gradually gained momentum until it led to ranchers arming themselves against mystery helicopters and out-of-town strangers. Still, there were a number of oddities during this time period. In Montana, Cascade County accounted for nearly every type of phenomenon associated with their mute cases, including the discovery of a “cult” site and the appearance of that big hairy guy that likes to hang out in the Pacific Northwest, Bigfoot. In Colorado, cases reached an epidemic proportion, and the culprits were brave enough to leave one carcass at NORAD’s front gate. And on Manuel Gomez’s ranch in Dulce, New Mexico, the perpetrators planted evidence to make it seem like the government was definitely involved. Regardless, the mute phenomenon reached epidemic proportions, leading one U.S. Senator to convene the first conference on the topic. A conference that would lead to the greatest UFO conspiracy of all time. Special thanks to Brennan Storr (The Ghost Story Guys), Philip Keating (Botched Podcast, Imaginary Nomad on Twitch), Emily Louise (Weird Reads with Emily Louise), Ash, Ryan Sprague (Somewhere in the Skies) and David Riedel. Sources: “The Enduring Panic About Cow Mutilations” by Rachel Monroe, The New Yorker, May 8, 2023 Stalking the Herd: Unraveling the Cattle Mutilation Mystery by Christopher O’Brien “Mind Blowing Soul-Suckers??” by Staff Writer, Stigmata, No 5 “Ordeal in Arkansas” by Staff Writer, Stigmata, No 4 The Night Mutilators by Gene Duplantier Dulce Base The Truth and Evidence From the Case Files of Gabe Valdez by Greg Valdez “Wave of Mutilation: The Cattle Mutilation Phenomenon of the 1970s” by Michael J. Goleman, The Agricultural History Society, 2011 Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CW: Animal Death On June 5, 2023, The Debrief published an article titled “Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non Human Origins.” Written by Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal, the article details claims brought forth by whistleblower David Grusch, a former Air Force officer and intelligence official, concerning documents he had been shown. And what was in these documents? Evidence of a crash recovery program responsible for retrieving alien spaceships that had embedded themselves into Earth’s soil. In subsequent interviews, Grusch claimed that the Pope informed the American Army of a UFO that had crashed in Italy in the mid 1940s, that we’ve recovered alien bodies, and… that aliens have killed humans! Here’s the thing… This is all old hat, and it was Grusch’s claims that prompted the beginning of this series. All UFO conspiracies can be traced back to the 1980s. Before we get there, however, we need to take a trip back to 1967, to the mutilation heard round the world. The death of Lady, Nellie Lewis’ prize horse, garnered national press attention, forever linking the phenomenon of livestock mutilation to UFOs. Special thanks to Jay Shenk, Darcy Staniforth (Cinema Sentries, Mysteries Decoded Podcast) and Emily Louise (Weird Reads with Emily Louise) Sources: Stalking the Herd: Unraveling the Cattle Mutilation Mystery by Christopher O’Brien “How the Death of 6,000 Sheep Spurred the American Debate on Chemical Weapons” by Lorraine Boissoneault Dr. John H. Altshuler entry on Northern Ontario UFO Research & Study website “After 50 years, Snippy still a mystery” by Sylvia Lobato - Alamosa News Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the final palette cleanser episode before we dive deep into serious UFO conspiracy territory, Jessica Knapik from What's Up Weirdo joins me to talk about the weird vibe of her post office, haunted workplaces, misconceptions about paranormal investigating, UFO photos, dream places to investigate, Robert Stack's haunting visage, WWE and UFC being owned by the same company, and how much we love Jaws. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, my good friend Steve Berg (Host of the wonderful podcast, Hi, Strangeness) returns to the pod to talk about Nebraska weirdness, the old guard and their old ways, making friends in paranormal circles, and we recommend a ton of books! Steve's List Alien Dawn by Colin Wilson Above Top Secret by Timothy Good Origins of the Gods: Qesem Cave, Skinwalkers, and Contact with Transdimensional Intelligences by Andrew Collins & Gregory L. Little Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults by Jacques Vallee Daimonic Reality: A Field Guide to the Other World by Patrick Harpur Operation Trojan Horse: The Classic Breakthrough Study of UFOs by John Keel People of the Web: What Indian Mounds, Ancient Rituals, and Stone Circles Tell Us About Modern UFO Abductions, Apparitions, and the Near Death Experience by Gregory L. Little Rob's List Somewhere in the Skies by Ryan Sprague The Close Encounters Man: How One Man Made the World Believe in UFOs by Mark O'Connell The Field Guide to Extraterrestrials by Patrick Huyghe (Illustrations by Harry Trumbore) Synchronicity: Science, Myth and the Trickster by Allan Combs and Mark Holland When Prophecy Fails by Leon Festinger, Henry W. Riecken & Stanley Schachter Saucers, Spooks and Kooks: UFO Disinformation in the Age of Aquarius by Adam Gorightly Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens by John E. Mack The Humanoids by Charles Bowen Dimensions: A Case Book of Alien Contact by Jacques Vallee Confrontations: A Scientist's Search for Alien Contact by Jacques Vallee Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception by Jacques Vallee UFOs and Abductions in Brazil by Irene Granchi UFOs Over Africa by Cynthia Hind It Defies Language! by Greg Bishop Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever been so burnt out on a subject that you needed to just have a good therapeutic chat with a friend about UFOs, ghosts, and about the shit going on in your life? Well, that's what I decided to do with my friend Lindsey. We laughed, we exchanged paranormal stories, and we just had a good conversation. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Researcher Cole Herrold (New World Explorers Society) returns to the podcast to talk about the numerous and varied experiences of Jennings Frederick, a resident of Rivesville, West Virginia. He talks about the experience of his mother Ivah, the infamous Veggieman encounter, a run-in with the Men in Black, and his time as a UFO investigator. Cole also talks about Frederick's brief time as a UFO investigator, as well, and the ongoing research he's doing into this entire story. The Veggieman Lives! Sources: Alien Meetings By Brad Steiger Extraordinary Encounters By Jerome Clark Humanoid Encounters: 1965-1969 By Albert S. Rosales Into the Unknown By Reader’s Digest Men in Black: The Secret Terror By Gray Barker Monsters Among Us By Brad Steiger The UFO Phenomenon by Time-Life books Gray Barker’s Newsletter March 1976 Monsters and Ghosts of West Virginia By Erin Turner and Isaac Mckinnon Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you like intergalactic wars between humans and aliens? Well, have we got a treat for you. This week, Rus Ryan from The Unbelievers podcast returns to discuss another Rus... Russell Kellet, the E.T. Rider! In the foreword of his book, Rus Kellett describes himself as a down-to-earth, no-nonsense hard-working man from a down-to-earth, no-nonsense hard-working family. The best way to describe Mr. Kellett: Imagine if Napoleon Dynamite was an abductee. He enjoys various hobbies, such as riding motorcycles, practicing martial arts, drawing centaurs, and crafting swords. Like a true road warrior, he spends most of his time cruising through West Yorkshire on his chopper. Oh, and he also underwent military training to fight reptilians. Join us as we discuss telepathic strippers, Eastern European aliens, Yorkshire pudding, and horse people. Source: E.T. Rider by Russell Kellett Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Ryan Sprague, the host of Somewhere in the Skies, and author of the new book, Stories from Somewhere in the Skies. Culled from the "Witness Accounts" series from the podcast, Ryan presents the stories of every day people encountering the extraordinary in our skies and beyond. Ryan discusses the importance of the "Witness Accounts" series, and giving a voice and space for people to tell their stories, the process of culling through the podcast series to find the stories that made it into the podcast, and Ryan shares a few of his favorites as well. You can also pick up Ryan's first book, Somewhere in the Skies, as well. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1977 a series of UFO and humanoid sightings would capture the headlines in and around West Wales. Sightings of cigar shaped objects and saucers became common place. On Ripperstone farm, the Coombs family were plagued by a number of curious incidents, which included UFOs, encounters with tall spacemen, disembodied hands, and men in black. These events would mirror themselves at the Haven Fort Hotel, where Rosa Grenville and her family were likewise visited by strange figures and men in black suits. Some would come to call it The Dyfed Enigma, others the Terror Triangle or The Welsh Triangle, and even the Broad Haven Triangle. But whatever you want to call it, what you’re about to hear is very strange and frightening. The music featured in this episode is by The Night Monitor. You can check out all of his music on Bandcamp, Apple Music and Spotify. Sources: The Dyfed Enigma: Unidentified Flying Objects in West Wales by Randall Jones Pugh & F.W. Holiday The Welsh Triangle by Peter Paget The Uninvited by Clive Harold “Broad Haven School Report” by Randall Jones Pugh, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 23, No 1, January-February 1977 “Schools ‘singled out’” by Staff Writer, The BUFORA Journal, Vol 6, No 1, May/June 1977 “Report–Extra! From hedge-hoppers to humanoids…!” by Norman Oliver, The BUFORA Journal, Vol 6, No 2, July/August 1977 “The Little Haven Humanoids” by Randall Jones Pugh & F.W. Holiday, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 23, No 2, March-April 1977 “Humanoid Encounter at Rainford” by Jenny Randles, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 26, No 6, November-December 1978 “Stack Rocks Humanoid Display” by Randall Jones Pugh, Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 26, No 6, November-December 1978 The Broad Haven Triangle UFO Sightings: The Welsh Triangle - A National Geographic Documentary The Ripperston Farm Extraterrestrials - The Paranormal Scholar Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In late 2021, when we relaunched OSS full time, I had my friend Brian Hastie from the Double Density podcast on to talk about the abduction of José Antônio da Silva. We decided to record a bonus episode where I dropped a surprise story on him. The original show notes: Do you miss Car Talk and when people talk... about cars. Well, this isn't that show, but strangely, we talk a little bit ABOUT WEIRD CARS. Brian Hastie joins me to discuss a very strange alien report from Wisconsin. We also chat about the current state of UFO research, the cases we've come to champion, and how to handle THE GONDOLA MAN! Source: "A Creature from Wisconsin" Flying Saucer Review 1977 V22 N5 Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we welcome Mike Clelland to the show. We dive into the weirdness of Saranac Lake, NY, a town we both lived in, as well as the nature and meaning of synchronicities, the work of Mac Tonnies; we each dive into some personal stories, and search for the meaning of it all in this wonderful conversation. Mike has a new novel coming out called The Unseen. He is also the author of The Messengers, Stories from the Messengers, and Hidden Experience. Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode a couple of New York guys talk about some New York stories, as Mothboy Matt from the Mothboys podcast joins me to talk about their new book, The White Monsters of Sherman New York, as well as some other New York cases, including an encounter with an elf, a bigfoot down in Whitehall, a UFO crash in Moriches Bay and much more! Sources: Little People by Ron Quinn UFO Crash Retrievals: The Inner Sanctum: Status Report VI by Leonard Stringfield The White Monsters of Sherman New York by The Mothboys "They Saw a Saucer Woman" by D.C. Lucchesi, Saucerian, Vol 2, No 2, September 1954 Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you down with the clown? Well this week, guests Stephanie Quick, AP Strange & I dive into the weirdness of clowns, their trickster-like nature, their ability to pop up out of nowhere, and for some reason we talk about naked hairy clown asses, and we kind of fantasize about Sam, the Sandown Clown naked, and name him a new LGBTQ+ icon. This is a weird, funny one, y'all. Strap in for a face of painted weirdness, clowns that terrorized some kids across the US, and the sad karaoke ghost man that was Sam, the Sandown Clown. Stephanie Quick's Blog AP Strange's Blog "Report - Extra! Ghost or Spaceman '73?" by Norman Oliver, The BUFORA Journal, Vol 6, No 5, January/February 1978 Mysterious America: The Ultimate Guide to the Nation's Weirdest Wonders, Strangest Spots, and Creepiest Creatures by Loren Coleman "Creeping into the Valley of the Uncanny" by AP Strange "Clowns to the Left of Me, Joker to the Right..." by AP Strange Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The city of Villa Carlos Paz is a tourist destination in central Argentina, known for a number of outdoor activities, such as kite surfing and hiking, as well as a giant cuckoo clock in the center of town. (Apparently the bird is controversial) In UFO circles, however, the town is known for one event in particular, the case of the Night Visitor. Also known as the Pretzel CEIII case, on June 14, 1968, María Elodia Pretzel was in the process of locking up the family motel, Motel La Cuesta (Known now as Hotel La Cuesta), when she would have a frightening encounter with a flattopped being carrying a strange disco ball and wearing a tight fitting suit. Strangely, María's encounter was not the only one that featured mysterious human-like figures... Zee from Ghosts-n-Heauxs joins the pod to discuss the Night Visitor case and others of the 1968 South American flap. Sources: Villa Carlos Paz - Wikipedia “Cuckoo Clock at Villa Carlos Paz” - Welcome Argentina “The Anthropomorphic Entity At Villa Carlos Paz – Part 1” by Dr. Oscar A. Galíndez, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 26, No 5, January 1981 “The Anthropomorphic Entity At Villa Carlos Paz – Part 2” by Dr. Oscar A. Galíndez, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 26, No 6, March 1981 “The Anthropomorphic Entity At Villa Carlos Paz – Part 3” by Dr. Oscar A. Galíndez, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 27, No 1, June 1981 The 1968 Humanoid Catalog “A New South American ‘Wave’ by Gordon Creighton, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 14, No 5, September-October 1968 “World round-up: Argentina” by Staff Writer, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 14, No 6, November-December 1968 “One Day in Mendoza” by Charles Bowen, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 14, No 6, November-December 1968 “World round-up: Argentina” by Staff Writer, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 16, No 1, January-February 1970 “Physical Examination By ‘Miniature Martians’” by Gordon Creighton, Flying Saucer Review, Vol 15, No 5, September-October 1969 “Pretzel Case: The Opinion of a Psychologist by Alejandro Cesar Agostinelli” (Title Translated) by Alejandro Agostinelli, UFO Press, Vol 6, No 15, January 1983 “The incredible and sad story of the naive Elodia and her heartless father” (Title Translated) by Alejandro Agostinelli, UFO Press, Vol 6, No. 18, October 1983 Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the first installment of what we hope is a long running series, Fred Andersson and I shoot the shit about all things UFO, including the government's fascination with shooting down balloons, the government's inability to investigate anything, the contactees and abduction phenomenon, our favorite UFO films, what cases we'd want to see adapted into films, and our favorite noodle? Welcome UFO People Prints Are Now Available! Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg T-Shirt Designs by The Great Desdymona Check out ourstrangeskies.com for all things related to the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices